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02-21-2019 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
lol I wasn't thinking at all during that hand, just mashing buttons. It's nice that my winrate is still 8bb/100 at 500nl, double your 50nl wr

if I didn't punt I could do 12bb/100 easy. just need to stop being such a ******
When you post stuff like this it makes it hard for any rational person to take you seriously. The skill difference between the “crushers” (at least the ones sharing on this site) and say breakeven/ small winners is negligible imo.
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02-21-2019 , 05:30 PM
ugh people ****ing suck. Sorry your parents and your school were so awful. Def a lot of that horrible stuff being practiced/taught all over the place, really sucks.

How is it even legal to have written rules about some of that stuff?
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02-21-2019 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by upswinging
The skill difference between the “crushers” (at least the ones sharing on this site) and say breakeven/ small winners is negligible imo.
When you post stuff like this it makes it hard for any rational person to take you seriously.

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seriously not sure what your point is? if skill gap between crushers and breakeven players is negligible than even more of the diff in wr comes from avoiding punts/tilt, no?


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ugh people ****ing suck. Sorry your parents and your school were so awful. Def a lot of that horrible stuff being practiced/taught all over the place, really sucks.

How is it even legal to have written rules about some of that stuff?
I looked into suing the school (to try and shut them down) shortly after I left. it's perfectly legal to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation so unfortunately nothing I could do
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02-21-2019 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
strongly disagree. you can discipline your kid without hitting them. basically all scientific evidence shows that physical abuse is harmful to children: it doesn't matter how calmly or rationally you beat your kid, it's still going to **** them up for life. my parents hit me and then they were *shocked* when I started acting out/hitting kids in preschool (age 4-5). of course, if I hit someone then I got hit as punishment, reinforcing the behavior.

I remember being scared ****less of my mom as she chased me through the house with a huge metal spoon (or belt or whatever, the spoon hurt the worst though), so angry she couldn't even speak. I was like 5 though, by the time I was 8 or 9 anytime she tried to hit me I would hide/run fast enough to get away or I would just say it didn't hurt and laugh. that's when the verbal/emotional abuse starts.

**** anyone who hits/otherwise abuses kids. all the time I hear people say **** like "this generation didn't get hit enough as kids" or when someone sees a kid acting out in public they'll say, "that kid needs a solid beating." no. the problem is that there's so many lazy/****ty people out there who would rather smack a child than be a parent.
Christ. Do you re-read your posts before you press enter? A bad experience with a parent you're not too fond is not ''scientific evidence''. It's a bad experience. Just as skimming through the first 3 google hits on ''physical abuse kids'' isn't scientific evidence either.
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02-21-2019 , 06:02 PM
Holy **** tanner, what state is that?
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02-21-2019 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mzbourg
Christ. Do you re-read your posts before you press enter? A bad experience with a parent you're not too fond is not ''scientific evidence''. It's a bad experience. Just as skimming through the first 3 google hits on ''physical abuse kids'' isn't scientific evidence either.
hey man, beat your kids if you want. a lot of people do. doesn't mean you aren't ****ing them up, and I'm still gunna call you an ******* for it

btw, I did a little research looking for evidence that corporal punishment is effective on children. most of the stuff I'm finding is put out by groups like Focus on the Family or other religious organizations. Frankly, I'm shocked

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Holy **** tanner, what state is that?
liberal california. even in california there's still retrainment camps that parents send their kids to. they administer shock therapy to cure the homosexuality.

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02-21-2019 , 06:29 PM
Wow, so sick how your school treated kids, that's soooo insane. That's like even worse than going to school lol. I can't understand how **** like that still exist today.

I went to a catholic school too, but they taught us normally, although they never said anything about gay people from what I can recall, imo it's their job to teach kids to treat everyone as equals. I had religion class too but it was more like a joke, I remember we had a very tilted teacher we nicknamed "ponytails"(in portuguese it's way funnier haha) and she went into monkey tilt cursing a student that put a ponytail on a ball and drew a face and put on her desk, she screamed "**** YOU, SON OF A *****" haha! No respect! Vamo was very strong in that one

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02-21-2019 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Wow, so sick how your school treated kids, that's soooo insane. That's like even worse than going to school lol. I can't understand how **** like that still exist today.

I went to a catholic school too, but they taught us normally, although they never said anything about gay people from what I can recall, imo it's their job to teach kids to treat everyone as equals. I had religion class too but it was more like a joke, I remember we had a very tilted teacher we nicknamed "ponytails"(in portuguese it's way funnier haha) and she went into monkey tilt cursing a student that put a ponytail on a ball and drew a face and put on her desk, she screamed "**** YOU, SON OF A *****" haha! No respect! Vamo was very strong in that one
yeah, super sick. stuff I've mentioned is the tip of the iceberg tbh

most of our religious schools aren't so extreme but there's crazy people everywhere. I remember hearing a college professor curse in a lecture my freshman year of college and asking my buddy if they were allowed to do that saying "what the hell" or "damn" got you detention in highschool lol

your country is going downhill on lgbt rights fast though
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02-21-2019 , 06:42 PM
Well in the future it won't matter we will have robots to spank kids and guess what the guilt trips/crying won't work lol because robots don't care about your feelings beep beep bop bop, You all need a spanking if you ask me.
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02-21-2019 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
Well in the future it won't matter we will have robots to spank kids and guess what the guilt trips/crying won't work lol because robots don't care about your feelings beep beep bop bop, You all need a spanking if you ask me.
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02-21-2019 , 07:02 PM
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your country is going downhill on lgbt rights fast though
I used to think that when our president was elected, but most of his anti-lgbt ideas can't be applied because the constitution won't allow, also in brazil the power of the president alone is very small if he won't get support from congress. Basically if the congress is against the president there's almost nothing he can do. But that's in theory, in practice things are different and congress supports him, which is scary.

I'm afraid if after he is done with economy stuff he goes after lgbt people, the sad part is that most of the population support him. So if he starts some stupid law and congress supports it and if the population won't fight back things could get ugly very quickly. That's the price of having a very bad education system.
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02-21-2019 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
I used to think that when our president was elected, but most of his anti-lgbt ideas can't be applied because the constitution won't allow, also in brazil the power of the president alone is very small if he won't get support from congress. Basically if the congress is against the president there's almost nothing he can do. But that's in theory, in practice things are different and congress supports him, which is scary.

I'm afraid if after he is done with economy stuff he goes after lgbt people, the sad part is that most of the population support him. So if he starts some stupid law and congress supports it and if the population won't fight back things could get ugly very quickly. That's the price of having a very bad education system.
yeah, brazilians in general don't like gay people:

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In 2010, 51% opposed adoption of children by gays
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In 2013, 37% said they wouldn’t accept a gay child.
not much different in the usa:

-A 2014 study found 35% of Americans opposed adoption of children by gays
-A 2015 study found 39% of parents would be upset if their child was gay


what's crazy to me is that 1/3 of lgbt brazilians support your president, who has gone on record as being a proud homophobe.

also never realized how many gay people live in rio. 19.3% of guys there are gay or bi! I need to make a trip
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02-21-2019 , 07:35 PM
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Now these Jews (in Berea) were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the
word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily, to see if these things were so.
Acts 17:11
It's kind of funny how they have a quote about being open-minded right on the front page.
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02-21-2019 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
hey man, beat your kids if you want. a lot of people do. doesn't mean you aren't ****ing them up, and I'm still gunna call you an ******* for it

btw, I did a little research looking for evidence that corporal punishment is effective on children. most of the stuff I'm finding is put out by groups like Focus on the Family or other religious organizations. Frankly, I'm shocked
That's the point. When you type a bunch of uneducated nonsense opinions, you end up becoming Rapidesh. That's a bad thing.
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02-21-2019 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mzbourg
That's the point. When you type a bunch of uneducated nonsense opinions, you end up becoming Rapidesh. That's a bad thing.
what, were you expecting me to go out and spend 8 hours researching your side of the argument for you? lmao. how about you articulate yourself better? so far you've said nothing of substance

also, I guarantee that I spent more time reading up on the arguments for corporal punishment than you spent reading on the arguments against. I've read up on this stuff plenty in the past, but I was curious if there's some new research out I missed. didn't see anything I haven't seen before

lets just agree to disagree. you can be on the side of the child beaters, I'll be on the side against beating children. cool?
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02-21-2019 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
lets just agree to disagree. you can be on the side of the child beaters, I'll be on the side against beating children. cool?
Are you on the side of murdering babies or not murdering babies?
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02-21-2019 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
what, were you expecting me to go out and spend 8 hours researching your side of the argument for you? lmao. how about you articulate yourself better? so far you've said nothing of substance

also, I guarantee that I spent more time reading up on the arguments for corporal punishment than you spent reading on the arguments against.

lets just agree to disagree. you can be on the side of the child beaters, I'll be on the side against beating children. cool?


I havent said anything of substance cause I am not educated enough on the matter. I suggest you do the same.

But sure. Lets agree to disagree.
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02-21-2019 , 09:16 PM
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what's crazy to me is that 1/3 of lgbt brazilians support your president, who has gone on record as being a proud homophobe.

also never realized how many gay people live in rio. 19.3% of guys there are gay or bi! I need to make a trip
I didn't know about that, so ******ed. I know people who are gay and voted for him but thought they were rare, not 1/3

And it's likely that the % of gay/bi men is higher than that if you consider the ones who are married and have a family and have sex with other men. Recently a friend of mine said he kissed my high school math teacher lol. He has a wife and 2 kids
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02-21-2019 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MMSS
Are you on the side of murdering babies or not murdering babies?
except this debate is literally some people saying it's ok to hit kids and some people saying it's not ok to hit kids.

in the abortion debate you have one side that's ok with embryos/fetuses being terminated, and one side that isn't. the side that isn't conflates terminating an unviable pregnancy with murdering babies.

i'm not sure how I'm misrepresenting the people who are in favor of hitting kids. that's their words, not mine.

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I havent said anything of substance cause I am not educated enough on the matter. I suggest you do the same.

But sure. Lets agree to disagree.
you came in here trying to argue that there are no facts to back up my opinion that hitting children is psychologically damaging. and while you're right that I didn't write a thesis on the subject itt, I'm more than educated enough on the subject to hold my opinion, and if anyone really wants to hear some of the arguments I can articulate them when I'm not grinding. tbh I didn't think "hitting kids is wrong" would be controversial enough I would need to cite sources
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02-21-2019 , 09:51 PM
now time for some juicy hh

iPoker - $10 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 43.26 BB (VPIP: 85.19, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 28)
BTN: 110.9 BB (VPIP: 29.03, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 31)
SB: 99.7 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 31.25, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 34)
Hero (BB): 119.25 BB
UTG: 215.1 BB (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 6

fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (3 BB, 3 players) 7 5 4
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets 3 BB, SB calls 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (12 BB, 3 players) 3
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets 3 BB, SB raises to 10.5 BB, Hero calls 10.5 BB, CO calls 7.5 BB

River: (43.5 BB, 3 players) 5
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

SB shows 4 6 (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 50%, Flop 50%, Turn 50%)
Hero shows 4 6 (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 50%, Flop 50%, Turn 50%)
SB wins 21.6 BB
Hero wins 21.6 BB
Spoiler:
CO mucked J7o
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02-21-2019 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
except this debate is literally some people saying it's ok to hit kids and some people saying it's not ok to hit kids.

in the abortion debate you have one side that's ok with embryos/fetuses being terminated, and one side that isn't. the side that isn't conflates terminating an unviable pregnancy with murdering babies.

i'm not sure how I'm misrepresenting the people who are in favor of hitting kids. that's their words, not mine.
@bold - You are, that's why you did it.

People who think that hitting their kids is an acceptable form of punishment tend to not think that hitting their kids is good and in an ideal world would probably never hit their kids. You are implying that people who think hitting their kids are fans of doing so or are justifying **** that happens to others.

It's really important to not mix up your ****ed up experiences, however hard this may be, with what is said. Your stories for example aren't a justification of smacking kids being ok, what happened to you was physical abuse. This is illegal already. Unfortunately it's very difficult for children to protect themselves from this type of abuse and you're unfortunate on your backwards schooling that didn't help you with this.

There quite literally are forms of experience where pain is a good deterrent. For example when you are a child if you touch something really hot you learn pretty quickly not to touch things that are hot. Simple association like this can be a helpful deterrent but when issues arise that are more complicated it very quickly falls flat.
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02-21-2019 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
you came in here trying to argue that there are no facts to back up my opinion that hitting children is psychologically damaging. and while you're right that I didn't write a thesis on the subject itt, I'm more than educated enough on the subject to hold my opinion, and if anyone really wants to hear some of the arguments I can articulate them when I'm not grinding. tbh I didn't think "hitting kids is wrong" would be controversial enough I would need to cite sources

I came in here calling you out on being uneducated on the matter yet talking like you’re an expert. Thats the whole point.

When was it that I argued there are no facts to back up your opinion? I said you arent educated enough to come with the conclusions you have cause the only thing you know is that you disliked the beating your mom gave you and you’ve spent a whole 5 min on google.
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02-21-2019 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MMSS
@bold - You are, that's why you did it.

People who think that hitting their kids is an acceptable form of punishment tend to not think that hitting their kids is good and in an ideal world would probably never hit their kids. You are implying that people who think hitting their kids are fans of doing so or are justifying **** that happens to others.

It's really important to not mix up your ****ed up experiences, however hard this may be, with what is said. Your stories for example aren't a justification of smacking kids being ok, what happened to you was physical abuse. This is illegal already. Unfortunately it's very difficult for children to protect themselves from this type of abuse and you're unfortunate on your backwards schooling that didn't help you with this.

There quite literally are forms of experience where pain is a good deterrent. For example when you are a child if you touch something really hot you learn pretty quickly not to touch things that are hot. Simple association like this can be a helpful deterrent but when issues arise that are more complicated it very quickly falls flat.
I never said that I think people who hit their kids enjoy it. I'm sure that the majority do not and simply do it because it's how they were raised. Where did I imply that?

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I came in here calling you out on being uneducated on the matter yet talking like you’re an expert. Thats the whole point.

When was it that I argued there are no facts to back up your opinion? I said you arent educated enough to come with the conclusions you have cause the only thing you know is that you disliked the beating your mom gave you and you’ve spent a whole 5 min on google.
Talking like an expert? Me? lmao, you have me confused with someone else dude.

you're making a lot of assumptions there guy


who would've thought that in 2019 saying it's wrong to hit defenseless children draws more outrage than outright misogyny and racism. what a world
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02-21-2019 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
I never said that I think people who hit their kids enjoy it. I'm sure that the majority do not and simply do it because it's how they were raised. Where did I imply that?
Is your mother a child beater?

Has anything that has been said suggested that anyone (Mzbourg included although he can speak for himself) thinks that what your mother did is acceptable whether people are for or against hitting children?

No. So they probably aren't on the same side.

edit - To make it very clear this is what your words were

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you can be on the side of the child beaters, I'll be on the side against beating children. cool?
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It's very simplistic framing of a more complex issue. You're a smart guy you get this, if you don't want the debate ITT I understand that completely but don't fall back on lazy **** arguments. You're better than that.
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02-21-2019 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MMSS
There quite literally are forms of experience where pain is a good deterrent. For example when you are a child if you touch something really hot you learn pretty quickly not to touch things that are hot. Simple association like this can be a helpful deterrent but when issues arise that are more complicated it very quickly falls flat.
Yeah but you don't grab your kids hand and force them to touch the stove to learn. Inflicting pain on your children is different than learning from painful experiences. Hitting your kids is wrong under almost all circumstances. Here are some situations where it's ok to hit your kids. If your kid is about to put a fork into a light socket and there's a lot of construction so you can't be heard yelling and you can't get across the room in time, feel free to throw your shoe at that dumb kid. Hard. If your child is sleep walking in the middle of the road and can't be woken up by yelling. Slap him or her in the face. Notice all these situations involve a life or death situation where verbal communication is ineffective. That's it. Otherwise you are bad parenting. Hitting your kids is wrong, I don't need to read some idiot scientist's opinion to know this. If you disagree with me I will have a much larger person than you hit you for not understanding dumbass.

Bonus: when it's acceptable to beat your wife. People say it's unacceptable to beat a woman under any circumstance. They are wrong. Let's say you get home and your wife has drowned all three of your small children and is rambling something crazy. Call the police and then beat your wife. I guarantee you aren't going to jail for punching your wife two or three times in the face after she murders the children. In fact the cops will probably look at you funny if you don't punch her.
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