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06-06-2020 , 12:40 PM
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Bring some chickens to spam at them
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06-06-2020 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by IJustClick
Don't let your fans down, we need some spicy HH's
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How's the home game going? was looking forward to updates.
Hey guys, I just came home super drunk, free drinks at the game, so I figured I might as well get wasted and gamble it up.

It was a wild night, Jim and Dluo were there and it was a really enjoyable and cool get together after all this covid-nonsense.

I won a bit (235$), but it could have been a lot more: Jim, Dluo and I bet on what cards would flop, which was a lot of fun, but unfortunately Jim refused to pay when I was 3.5k up, because "this is just a friendly home game, mate". Pretty unfortunate, but what can you do? Still had a great night.

Here's an interesting hand I've played:

Triple Barrel Bluff

9-handed, $1350 effective
HJ raises $25
BTN 3bets 85$
Hero 4bets $265 BB with As Jc
HJ calls $240
BTN tank calls $180

Flop ($795) Ks Ts 3d

Hero bets $235
HJ calls $235
BTN calls $235

Turn ($1500) Ks Ts 4c 2s

Hero tank jams $850
HJ snap calls $850
BTN tank calls $850

River ($4050) Ks Ts 4c 2s 8c

Spoiler:
Hero shows As Jc (busted flush & straight draw)
HJ shows Td Th (set)
BTN shows 9s 7s (flush)
BTN scoops a 4050$ pot

I feel this is a mandatory jam on the turn. Too bad we didn't hit the river. Oh well...
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06-06-2020 , 01:53 PM
what
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06-06-2020 , 01:58 PM
Lmao wp. I didn’t read who wrote it before I read the post and 100% believed it.
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06-06-2020 , 02:26 PM
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Lmao wp. I didn’t read who wrote it before I read the post and 100% believed it.
Lmao wp. I didn't read who wrote it before I read your post and 100% believed it.
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06-06-2020 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I don't need to "make" him pay me. He'll just do it.

He's a respectable guy that has a corporate job and plays poker/acts as an agent in his free time. There's no way he'd sacrifice his reputation for a measly $5k.
Oh yeah, those low-stress super friendly corporate environments. That show Suits is just an hour a week of people carefully doing their jobs and then going to the break room and having polite conversation about their families.

People don't care about you. It's not personal, people don't care about anyone else but themselves. Almost anyone in your life, and maybe anyone in your life, if given the decision to lose 5k or have you lose 5k, will ALWAYS chose you getting the short end of the stick. Always. Even if they can afford it and you can't. That's just how people act in general, poker players/agents are another level of scumbags. Stop blindly trusting people.

You aren't wrong to play on the apps, the risk/reward is certainly in your favor, but keeping 50BIs on there when you don't need to isn't smart. If you're worried about your wife or your mom taking your money instead of your agent or the club owner, just get a new bank account. You're an adult, you're allowed.
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06-06-2020 , 03:31 PM
Lol! Well played @fodersneso
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06-06-2020 , 04:25 PM
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spin, idk why you quoted those posts if you weren't going to address them:
Well there's helping, and then there's getting taken advantage of. People even calculated the cost of private healthcare in Thailand and even for a medical emergency, OP was giving them way more money than was necessary.

Like ghoul says, OP is naive and doesn't realize that most people don't have his best interests at heart.
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06-06-2020 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gh0ulpatrol
Oh yeah, those low-stress super friendly corporate environments. That show Suits is just an hour a week of people carefully doing their jobs and then going to the break room and having polite conversation about their families.

People don't care about you. It's not personal, people don't care about anyone else but themselves. Almost anyone in your life, and maybe anyone in your life, if given the decision to lose 5k or have you lose 5k, will ALWAYS chose you getting the short end of the stick. Always. Even if they can afford it and you can't. That's just how people act in general, poker players/agents are another level of scumbags. Stop blindly trusting people.

You aren't wrong to play on the apps, the risk/reward is certainly in your favor, but keeping 50BIs on there when you don't need to isn't smart. If you're worried about your wife or your mom taking your money instead of your agent or the club owner, just get a new bank account. You're an adult, you're allowed.
Yah, this is a good point. I'm on the apps too, but know there is a sizable risk that the agents could run off with my money if the club/app gets shut down some day.

It's very easy to load chips via BTC or Paypal transfer w/my agents so I don't know why you'd risk keeping such a large roll on the app, especially someone who could really use that cash.

Also has the added benefit of not being able to tilt off a bunch of cash chasing losses if you hit another 4-buyin "downswing".
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06-06-2020 , 07:26 PM
Day 20 Start

Woke up at 8:50am today and managed to start just in time at 9:00am exactly. I'm super tired, as I only had 4 hours sleep last night, so currently just 4 tabling 10nl (yes you read that right). My goal is to just get through today without losing much money. That's it.

I shall make another post soon regarding last night's adventures...

Slight change to prop bet:

EDIT: I spoke to Jim and we agreed that after today, we're going to change the prop bet a little: I have to play 60nl minimum when playing cash games. I figure that, since I'm trying to win this bet fair and square, I shouldn't really be looking for loopholes like this anyway.

Last edited by 6bet me; 06-06-2020 at 07:45 PM.
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06-06-2020 , 07:53 PM
Were minimum stakes just not mentioned when you made the bet? Or were you specifically allowed to play any stake and now he wants to change it?
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06-06-2020 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me

Slight change to prop bet:

EDIT: I spoke to Jim and we agreed that after today, we're going to change the prop bet a little: I have to play 60nl minimum when playing cash games. I figure that, since I'm trying to win this bet fair and square, I shouldn't really be looking for loopholes like this anyway.
What considerations are you getting out of the deal, seeing as you are agreeing to change the bet to one that's worse for you?
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06-06-2020 , 09:11 PM
Home game adventure

Went to a home game with 2 friends last night. Blinds were $2/$5 with an optional $10 straddle, but since most people chose not to straddle, it ended up playing more like a deep-stacked $2/$5 game for most of the night.

It was fun to get out of the house and shuffle some real chips on a real felt. I think that mixing things up a bit with some live poker keeps the game feeling fresh and exciting.

We arrived there at 8:30pm and left around 2am, so it was a solid 5.5 hour session. Time actually went by pretty quickly and I was still fine to keep playing, except that I knew I had to get up early today.

The game turned out to be okay. Like I wouldn't describe it as a soft game, but at least it wasn't as nitty as I thought it might be. There was a decent amount of action from some LAGs and some aggro fish. The regs were mostly pretty competent though. But I enjoyed the challenge.

My friends and I all managed to earn a profit tonight, which was fortunate:
- I won $750
- One friend won $400
- Another friend won $450

Surprisingly no one at the game drank any alcohol, so I ended up staying sober too, which was pretty refreshing in a way. The owners supplied us with non-alcoholic drinks and Chinese food instead, which made the whole experience pretty wholesome.

There were a few interesting hands I played, all of which were 9-handed. In chronological order:

Hand 1: Semibluffing

$690 effective
Hero straddles $10 UTG
BTN raises $30
Hero 3bets $120 UTG with A7cc
BTN calls $120

Flop ($247) Qc 6s 3c

Hero bets $70
BTN calls $70

Turn ($387) Qc 6s 3c 9d

Hero jams $500
BTN snap calls $500

Spoiler:
BTN only wants to run it once
River comes the 6c
Hero flips over his cards and wins an almost 1.4k pot

This happened pretty early on in the session... good way to make a first impression.


Hand 2: Completely airballing

$800 effective
CO raises $10
Hero 3bets $35 BTN with 75hh
BB cold calls $35
CO folds

Flop ($77) Kh Qd 6s

BB checks
Hero bets $25
BB calls $25

Turn ($127) Kh Qd 6s 6c

BB checks
Hero bets $100

Spoiler:
BB folds
Hero shows the bluff

I had to show at least one bluff :P


Hand 3: Facing a scary 4bet

$780 effective
UTG raises $12
Hero 3bets $40 MP with AKcc
CO cold calls $40
UTG 4bets $250
Hero 5bet jams $780

Spoiler:
CO folds
UTG calls $780
UTG shows AKss
We run it twice and chop

I didn't really know how to react to his massive 4bet sizing... Pretty happy to just chop tbh.


Hand 4: Last hand of the night...

Some context: it's 2am at this stage and we've given an orbit's notice. We're about to leave, and I make a joke before the hand about me about to lose my entire stack on the very last hand...

MP raises $15
Hero calls $15 HJ with 55
BTN calls $15
SB calls $15

Flop ($65, 4ways) 9h 4d 3c

SB checks
MP checks
Hero bets $35
BTN calls $35
SB folds
MP folds

Turn ($135, HU) 9h 4d 3c 5d

Hero bets $125
BTN calls $125

River ($385) 9h 4d 3c 5d Kh

Hero jams $540

Spoiler:
BTN tank calls $540
Hero scoops a 1.4k pot

I later find out he had 95 (2pair) and I 1 outered him on the turn lol.


After hand 4, I decided to play one last orbit, since it felt rude to leave on a win like that. Luckily, I won a bit more that last orbit and managed to leave at my new peak.

So all in all, it was a fun night and I'm glad I went. Even though I'm super tired today from barely getting any sleep, and I have a 6 day poker week ahead of me, it was still worth staying up late for.
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06-06-2020 , 09:34 PM
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Were minimum stakes just not mentioned when you made the bet? Or were you specifically allowed to play any stake and now he wants to change it?
Officially we said that I'm allowed to play whatever stakes I want, but unofficially, I said that I plan to play primarily 100nl+.

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What considerations are you getting out of the deal, seeing as you are agreeing to change the bet to one that's worse for you?
Nothing. But I just figured that Jim was being pretty reasonable to me (eg. letting me take Wednesday off, letting me go to doctor's appointments, etc.) so I'm happy to return the favour and be reasonable back.

I also want to win this bet in a fair and ethical way. I don't just want to exploit some loophole and win in a way that's contrary to the spirit of the bet.
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06-06-2020 , 10:10 PM
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Nothing. But I just figured that Jim was being pretty reasonable to me (eg. letting me take Wednesday off, letting me go to doctor's appointments, etc.) so I'm happy to return the favour and be reasonable back.
That's fair. But to be fair, both of these conditions were already covered under the terms of the bet:



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Prop bet on the 12 week challenge

Some people expressed doubts at my ability to stick to the 12 week challenge, so I've laid out a prop bet: a friend (we'll call him Jim) has offered me 14:1 odds that I can't stick to my 12 week challenge. I'm putting up $300 AUD of my own money vs Jim's $4200 AUD. The rules are:

1) I have to grind for 7 hours each day, Monday to Friday, starting from today until Friday the 31st of July 2020.
2) I have to grind from 9am to 5pm each grinding day. If I start later than 9:30am then that counts as a "strike" and later than 10:30am means I forfeit. 3 strikes = forfeit.
3) Each grinding day, I can take a maximum break of 1 hour. I have the freedom to take my break however I choose at whatever time I choose (eg. could do 3 x 20 min breaks instead of 1 x 60 min break).
4) If I have a genuine medical illness, I have to get a doctor's certificate to prove it, and those days get added on to the end, extending the duration of the bet.
5) If I get permanently kicked out of the club or have my funds seized, the bet is void.
6) If I bust my bankroll due to my own fault, then I can take the rest of the day off but must find a loan or stake and continue grinding the next day, or else I forfeit.
7) I must take a screenshot including timestamp of me when I first start my session and when I go on break, and send these to Jim each grinding day.
8) Any disagreements are voted on by a third party of friends.

I'm pretty optimistic about this bet and I look forward to winning Jim's $4200. Worst case scenario, I lose $300 and it's not the end of the world. It will be worth it for the extra motivation, anyway.

GL me. Day 2 of 60 is starting tomorrow!

You're allowed to go to the doctor with no penalty, and since you got kicked out of the club, the bet was to be voided. Him not wanting to void the bet means that he thought that his side was still +ev (to be fair, the same could be said for your side...although I'm guessing that you just forgot about that rule), so him "letting" you continue the bet isn't a benefit for you, it's a benefit for him. Him then making the bet harder because he got a benefit is kind of predatory and is yet another incidence of your "friends" taking advantage of you and you thanking them for it.
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06-06-2020 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gh0ulpatrol
That's fair. But to be fair, both of these conditions were already covered under the terms of the bet:






You're allowed to go to the doctor with no penalty, and since you got kicked out of the club, the bet was to be voided. Him not wanting to void the bet means that he thought that his side was still +ev (to be fair, the same could be said for your side...although I'm guessing that you just forgot about that rule), so him "letting" you continue the bet isn't a benefit for you, it's a benefit for him. Him then making the bet harder because he got a benefit is kind of predatory and is yet another incidence of your "friends" taking advantage of you and you thanking them for it.
I see what you're saying, but one could argue that:
1) The kicking out of club was only temporary, not permanent, since I managed to get back in a few days later, and thus the bet should not be voided.
2) The doctor's appointment was non-essential (I just had some minor skin problem that needed a looking at). I didn't get any medical certificate saying that I was unfit to work that day. I was in good overall health and didn't need to go urgently. So Jim could've denied that request.
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06-06-2020 , 10:49 PM
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1) The kicking out of club was only temporary, not permanent, since I managed to get back in a few days later, and thus the bet should not be voided.
It was only non-permanent because you took the effort to find a backdoor into it. With the requirement that you play every day, I don't know an arbitrator in the world that would say that the bet wouldn't be void the second you got kicked out.

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2) The doctor's appointment was non-essential (I just had some minor skin problem that needed a looking at). I didn't get any medical certificate saying that I was unfit to work that day. I was in good overall health and didn't need to go urgently. So Jim could've denied that request.
The rules don't say "essential doctors appointment", it says "genuine medical illness". Assuming the skin condition isn't made up, it's a genuine medical illness. The only reason you didn't get a doctor's note is because you didn't ask for one. There's nothing for him to deny because it's already covered under the rules.

Your friends are taking advantage of your gullible nature.
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06-06-2020 , 11:19 PM
How many buyins did you win in the live game OP? I said I would buy a can of crab meat if you won 2+
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06-06-2020 , 11:22 PM
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How many buyins did you win in the live game OP? I said I would buy a can of crab meat if you won 2+
Won $750. I guess that counts as 1.5 buyins? Since it was $2/$5/$10 but most hands there was no $10 straddle.
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06-06-2020 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Blinds were $2/$5 with an optional $10 straddle, but since most people chose not to straddle, it ended up playing more like a deep-stacked $2/$5 game for most of the night.
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Hand 1: Semibluffing

$690 effective
Hero straddles $10 UTG
Like a boss.
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06-06-2020 , 11:26 PM
gangsta. Well I guess it's noodles tonight then!
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06-07-2020 , 01:04 AM
Flopping a royal flush

10nl, 6-handed, $19 effective
Hero raises $0.30 MP with AJss
BTN calls $0.30
SB calls $0.30
BB folds

Flop ($1, 3ways) Ks Qs Ts

I'm just looking at the board in awe... did I really just flop a royal flush? This table has a bad beat jackpot, but no royal flush jackpot, so I figure I'll try to let someone catch their runner runner quads or whatever.

Checks around

Turn ($1, 3ways) Ks Qs Ts 3s

Checks around

River ($1, 3ways) Ks Qs Ts 3s 3h

I'm thinking: please someone have quad 3's...

SB bets $0.50
Hero raises to $2.00
BTN folds

Spoiler:
SB calls $2
SB mucks face down
Hero scoops a $5 pot

I'll try not to spend it all at once.
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06-07-2020 , 01:11 AM
If you hit the BBJ would you include it as part of your winnings? I always figured I wouldn't include it in my own WR as it would seriously distort the numbers.
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06-07-2020 , 01:18 AM
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If you hit the BBJ would you include it as part of your winnings? I always figured I wouldn't include it in my own WR as it would seriously distort the numbers.
Of course I would.

I included a $10k tourney bink as part of my profit, and that's basically the same thing as hitting a jackpot.
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06-07-2020 , 01:51 AM
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If you hit the BBJ would you include it as part of your winnings? I always figured I wouldn't include it in my own WR as it would seriously distort the numbers.
Well, paying an extra rake for BBJ is also distorting your WR.
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