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11-08-2017 , 01:39 AM
Hello,

I have played internet pokers since about 2012, starting with $50 and never depositing since. My main other hobby is chess.
I quickly found my favourite format and have since ALWAYS played fast fold variants - Zoom, FastForward, Speed, Rush, you name it. Mainly Zoom, though.

Back in the day, full ring tables still actually existed and I beat zoom FR50 over a decent sample and took a small failed shot at FR100. When I look back at it, we sucked so many dicks that a random SH10 reg from today could probably beat these games. RIP FR Zoom, easiest fast fold games there ever existed.
Despite some "zomg let's drop everything and go PRO" thoughts at some points (like probably everyone who gets this high has), these were mostly quickly discarded as I know myself too well.
I am very well aware that I have zero work ethic and suck ass at the game. Every time I hit some rough stretch, I would quit the game for a few months until I felt like "it" again. Thankfully I have accepted that poker is just a hobby so I guess I'm fine with that.

About at the end of 2015 I was doing about just ok on SH50 zoom result-wise, but life was piling up and I was not comfortable playing stressed out for "that much" money. So I didn't play for pretty much the entirety of 2016 and cashed out most of the monies for whatever I was feeling like paying for.

All that done, there were still like about $790 left in Stars. Recently I "felt like it" and have been playing NL5 to get that to $1000 for no real reason.
Why NL5? Because it's non-stressful and too easy, even for me. When $1000 is achieved (I'm pretty close) I'll move up to NL10, it's probably still easy enough even though I am self-aware of a lot of leaks that I am having.

Everyone loves graphs, so here's the current NL5 thing:



So, what will I be doing here? I don't know.
I was getting bored just playing, so I decided to register. Probably going to post random hands or weekly graphs or something, nothing constructive.
Recreational Zoom player Quote
11-08-2017 , 01:51 AM
I will post a few hands, because why not



INSANE

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 204.8 BB
SB: 192.6 BB
BB: 334.6 BB
UTG: 111.2 BB
MP: 296.6 BB
Hero (CO): 165.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J A

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 5 BB

Flop: (17.4 BB, 2 players) Q Q 7
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (17.4 BB, 2 players) 3
UTG bets 8.4 BB, Hero calls 8.4 BB

River: (34.2 BB, 2 players) 6
UTG bets 32.8 BB, Hero raises to 149 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 62 BB and is all-in

Hero shows J A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 70%, Flop 77%, Turn 90%)
UTG shows A 6 (Two Pair, Queens and Sixes)
(Pre 30%, Flop 23%, Turn 10%)
Hero wins 214.6 BB



Not actually happy when I actually get action at these stakes, but I felt the EV of 4bet/folding was higher than the alternatives

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 138 BB
SB: 109.6 BB
Hero (BB): 140.2 BB
UTG: 134.2 BB
MP: 58.8 BB
CO: 158 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, SB raises to 9.6 BB, Hero raises to 22.2 BB, fold, ...

SB said, "690 hand my best hand now and i have to fold it"
Hero said, "feels bad man"
SB said, "jungle is full of monkeys and software ****s on my ranges"

...fold

Hero wins 21.6 BB



This is most likely spewy as hell against someone who looks like a fish, I just felt he was going to fold for no good reason

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 130.8 BB
SB: 95.8 BB
BB: 200.6 BB
UTG: 207.6 BB
MP: 259.6 BB
Hero (CO): 145.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7 9

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, SB calls 7.6 BB, fold, MP calls 5 BB

Flop: (25 BB, 3 players) 6 4 T
SB bets 13 BB, fold, Hero calls 13 BB

Turn: (51 BB, 2 players) 3
SB bets 24 BB, Hero raises to 124.6 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 94.8 BB
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11-08-2017 , 08:28 AM
In for the ride, glgl!
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11-08-2017 , 01:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PandaLife
In for the ride, glgl!
Thanks man!


Was sunrunning today and got 2BI in 200 hands, so we'll see NL10 tomorrow.

A few hands:



At these stakes he's probably capped at weak Ax or worse so the runout does not worry me at all.
As it went, his hand is probably too high in his range to fold, though it's clearly just a bluffcatcher

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 137 BB
SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 149.6 BB
UTG: 35 BB
MP: 148.2 BB
CO: 101.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A T

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 5 J A
SB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, SB calls 4 BB

Turn: (14 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, SB calls 10 BB

River: (34 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets 22.4 BB, SB calls 22.4 BB

Hero shows A T (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
(Pre 71%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
SB mucks J T (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens)
(Pre 29%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 75.6 BB



Against fish (o rly?). It's definitely better to just 3betship the river, Q high flush should be good enough most of the time and he has a hand that he likes. Sometimes lucky

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 573 BB
SB: 58.6 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 71.2 BB
CO: 44 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 5 Q

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, SB calls 0.6 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (3 BB, 3 players) 4 J K
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (3 BB, 3 players) 2
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

River: (3 BB, 3 players) 9
SB checks, Hero bets 2.8 BB, CO raises to 5.6 BB, fold, Hero raises to 15.2 BB, CO raises to 43 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 27.8 BB

CO shows J 9 (Two Pair, Jacks and Nines)
(Pre 45%, Flop 82%, Turn 73%)
Hero shows 5 Q (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 55%, Flop 18%, Turn 27%)
Hero wins 85.4 BB



I rep nothing with my sizings and this bluff is bad, clearly just button clicking. It should be noted that the turn doesn't even give me a gutshot!
As it went, despite me having the FD blocker, his value range is also pretty limited on the river given the action so my nothing might be stronger than his nothing often enough

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 213.8 BB
Hero (SB): 110.4 BB
BB: 96 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 102.6 BB
CO: 138 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.8 BB, BB calls 1.8 BB

Flop: (5.6 BB, 2 players) 3 4 6
Hero bets 3.2 BB, BB calls 3.2 BB

Turn: (12 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 6.8 BB, BB calls 6.8 BB

River: (25.6 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BB bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

BB shows 7 9 (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 36%, Flop 36%, Turn 23%)
Hero shows A K (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 64%, Flop 64%, Turn 77%)
Hero wins 47.6 BB



Before you get any illusions that these thought processes make sense, I see that the current hype is "GTO approach" and PioSOLVER and such programs.
I should say upfront that I did not even read Janda's book and have never used any of these programs... at least for now.
A lot of my ranges are poorly constructed. My only familiarity with theory concepts comes from discussion with better players back in the day.
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11-09-2017 , 03:46 PM
Tons of action, some went my way, some not. Probably most did given the results




Let's post some losers this time



This seems just badly played overall, flop connects with pretty much everything and the turn fold equity seems pretty low while I could just chill and see a card

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 109.6 BB
SB: 187.2 BB
BB: 242.2 BB
UTG: 113.8 BB
MP: 78.4 BB
Hero (CO): 103.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 5 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) Q T 7
MP checks, Hero bets 7 BB, MP raises to 15 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

Turn: (47.5 BB, 2 players) Q
MP checks, Hero bets 80.9 BB and is all-in, MP calls 55.4 BB and is all-in

River: (158.3 BB, 2 players) 4

MP shows K Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 24%, Flop 69%, Turn 75%)
Hero shows K A (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 76%, Flop 31%, Turn 25%)
MP wins 151.2 BB



Vs LAG-looking reg, feels like something could be done differently somewhere, probably just 4bet pre. I was planning to calldown a pair postflop or, as it went, get fancy on turns that gave me a draw, but that's probably not such a good idea

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 113.6 BB
SB: 177.4 BB
BB: 131.5 BB
UTG: 109.1 BB
MP: 453.4 BB
Hero (CO): 123.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 5 J 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 5.7 BB, Hero calls 5.7 BB

Turn: (30.9 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (30.9 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BTN bets 13.9 BB, Hero calls 13.9 BB

BTN shows K A (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 75%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
Hero mucks Q K (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 25%, Flop 13%, Turn 7%)
BTN wins 56.1 BB



Against rec, I don't like the runout but shouldn't overthink it I guess, he should have more than enough worse like pair+draw

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 107.8 BB
SB: 102.4 BB
BB: 99.9 BB
UTG: 147.9 BB
Hero (MP): 142.5 BB
CO: 171.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 10 BB, BB calls 9 BB, Hero raises to 26.9 BB, fold, BB calls 16.9 BB

Flop: (63.8 BB, 2 players) 8 T T
BB checks, Hero bets 20 BB, BB calls 20 BB

Turn: (103.8 BB, 2 players) J
BB checks, Hero bets 95.6 BB and is all-in, BB calls 53 BB and is all-in

River: (209.8 BB, 2 players) 5

BB shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 90%, Turn 86%)
Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Tens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 10%, Turn 14%)
BB wins 200.4 BB



I kinda like his line here, however that said this looks like a somewhat easy fold in hindsight. Obviously not getting pot odds against any non-******ed range

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.7 BB
Hero (SB): 106.4 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 99.5 BB
MP: 115.7 BB
CO: 317.2 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 16 BB, fold, fold, MP raises to 115.7 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 90.4 BB and is all-in

Flop: (219.8 BB, 2 players) 3 2 7

Turn: (219.8 BB, 2 players) 8

River: (219.8 BB, 2 players) 3
Players agreed to run it twice.

Flop #2: (219.8 BB, 2 players) Q J 8

Turn #2: (219.8 BB, 2 players) T

River #2: (219.8 BB, 2 players) T

Hero shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Threes)
Board #1 (Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
(Full House, Jacks full of Tens)
Board #2 (Pre 19%, Flop 83%, Turn 64%)

MP shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Threes)
Board #1 (Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
(Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
Board #2 (Pre 81%, Flop 17%, Turn 36%)

Hero wins 104.9 BB
MP wins 105 BB



Not sure how good this actually is against 1-tabler that does not look ******ed, maybe should just play postflop

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 97.3 BB
SB: 45.4 BB
BB: 102.6 BB
Hero (UTG): 113.4 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 111.3 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 20 BB, BTN raises to 60 BB, Hero raises to 113.4 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 37.3 BB and is all-in

Flop: (196.1 BB, 2 players) J 3 2

Turn: (196.1 BB, 2 players) J

River: (196.1 BB, 2 players) 4

Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
(Pre 19%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 81%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
BTN wins 187.3 BB



All in all, life is good

Last edited by Illunimoti; 11-09-2017 at 03:54 PM.
Recreational Zoom player Quote
11-10-2017 , 02:20 PM
Got absolutely destroyed in deep pots




Vs decent ABC reg, once he 3bets F he probably has what he had every single time but I am a station with second nuts. Should probably hate my flop line though even though I still get stacked in most universes

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 113.2 BB
Hero (SB): 142.5 BB
BB: 282 BB
UTG: 102.2 BB
MP: 266.5 BB
CO: 109.8 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5 BB, 2 players) T K Q
Hero checks, BB bets 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, BB raises to 26.1 BB, Hero calls 17.1 BB

Turn: (57.2 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BB bets 42 BB, Hero calls 42 BB

River: (141.2 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BB bets 101.1 BB, Hero calls 71.9 BB and is all-in

BB shows J A (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 75%, Flop 93%, Turn 97%)
Hero shows J 9 (Straight, King High)
(Pre 25%, Flop 7%, Turn 3%)
BB wins 272.2 BB



Later I found out this guy was a rec, which was salt on the wound

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 152.7 BB
Hero (SB): 159.3 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 298 BB
MP: 109.3 BB
CO: 102.3 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.7 BB, Hero raises to 9.1 BB, fold, BTN calls 6.4 BB

Flop: (19.2 BB, 2 players) 5 T 6
Hero bets 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB

Turn: (39.2 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 28 BB, BTN calls 28 BB

River: (95.2 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 112.2 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 105.6 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 8 9 (Flush, Ten High)
(Pre 36%, Flop 37%, Turn 20%)
BTN shows A Q (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 64%, Flop 63%, Turn 80%)
BTN wins 292.6 BB



Screwed this one up, flop is spewy specially with the A hearts

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 80.4 BB
SB: 124.2 BB
Hero (BB): 188.8 BB
UTG: 109.5 BB
MP: 95 BB
CO: 238 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, SB calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (24.5 BB, 2 players) J 9 5
SB checks, Hero bets 14.5 BB, SB raises to 41 BB, Hero raises to 177.8 BB and is all-in, SB calls 72.2 BB and is all-in

Turn: (250.9 BB, 2 players) 2

River: (250.9 BB, 2 players) Q

SB shows 5 5 (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 20%, Flop 87%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 80%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 239.6 BB



One deep pot went my way, I like how this one was played. Actually not sure if he had KK or was just clicking buttons

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 246.4 BB
SB: 153.5 BB
BB: 251.8 BB
Hero (UTG): 182.4 BB
MP: 89.4 BB
CO: 160.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 9

Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) 3 7 8
BB bets 12 BB, Hero raises to 30 BB, BB raises to 66 BB, Hero calls 36 BB

Turn: (150.5 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets 107.4 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 143.7 BB



This guy looked like a good reg. Found the only reg in the limit capable of bluffing this spot

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 184.9 BB
SB: 102 BB
BB: 89.8 BB
UTG: 258.4 BB
MP: 177.1 BB
Hero (CO): 107.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 3

fold, MP calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold, MP calls 2 BB

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 5 2 2
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 4 BB, SB calls 4 BB, fold

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) 4
SB checks, Hero bets 12 BB, SB raises to 28 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

River: (74 BB, 2 players) Q
SB bets 67 BB and is all-in, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls 67 BB

SB shows 3 3 (Two Pair, Threes and Twos)
(Pre 64%, Flop 82%, Turn 84%)
Hero shows Q 3 (Two Pair, Queens and Twos)
(Pre 36%, Flop 18%, Turn 16%)
Hero wins 198.6 BB
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11-10-2017 , 07:43 PM
Too much value lost not being deep

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 227.6 BB
SB: 99 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 374.4 BB
MP: 287.3 BB
Hero (CO): 227.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, SB calls 8.5 BB, fold, MP calls 6 BB

Flop: (28 BB, 3 players) 8 K 3
SB checks, MP bets 27 BB, Hero calls 27 BB, fold

Turn: (82 BB, 2 players) 8
MP bets 78 BB, Hero calls 78 BB

River: (238 BB, 2 players) 4
MP bets 173.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 113.4 BB and is all-in

MP shows K 9 (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)
(Pre 29%, Flop 16%, Turn 10%)
Hero shows K A (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)
(Pre 71%, Flop 84%, Turn 90%)
Hero wins 449.8 BB
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11-11-2017 , 03:12 PM
Absolutely obliterated




20 WTSD 31 W$SD 40 WWSF, it's a minor miracle I didn't lose more. I don't think I played so bad, but definitely but not so good either.
Here's a misplayed hand very representative of the session


PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 88.5 BB
Hero (SB): 133.3 BB
BB: 120.9 BB
UTG: 119.5 BB
MP: 57.1 BB
CO: 124 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

UTG raises to 2.2 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.2 BB, Hero calls 1.7 BB, fold

Flop: (7.6 BB, 3 players) Q 3 Q
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: (7.6 BB, 3 players) 8
Hero bets 5 BB, UTG raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero raises to 20 BB...

He's NEVER bluffing, definitely 3bet larger at least to prepare a river ship. Maybe just ship turn for the lulz



...UTG calls 10 BB

River: (47.6 BB, 2 players) A





Hero bets 21.8 BB , UTG raises to 97.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 75.5 BB

UTG shows Q A (Full House, Queens full of Aces)
(Pre 45%, Flop 93%, Turn 16%)
Hero shows 8 8 (Full House, Eights full of Queens)
(Pre 55%, Flop 7%, Turn 84%)
UTG wins 231.3 BB

I was pretty sure I was beat, don't think he ships 33 on this river but I tilt-called anyway and realizing my predicament I immediately stopped the session. I'm not dumb enough to tilt my roll in a day
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