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10-31-2019 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Giovanni Dcs
Hello, my friend.

I respectfully don't agree.

You get to the river winning against a lot of hands that c-bet on this very dry A67r dry board and checked back OTT. In fact, he's going to cbet from UTG here with almost every bluff he has.

Your 99 has enough showdown value here. If you overbet 99 OTR because you think you don't have enough showdown value, you're going to overbet here as a bluff too much.

He would not have QQ/KK, because he wouldn't cbet 50% OTF. So, if we're thinking about value hands he can fold here, I'd think he could have Jx that c-bet as a bluff and check behind OTT, and some weak Ax that c-bet OTF and checked behind OTT to pot control. But these Ax will call your overbet from time to time anyway.

Also, he could easly have some JT and KQ here. TT is also possible, because TT is very different from QQ/KK, because TT is a hand that has to protect itself a bit more, therefore a cbet is more normal. Even AT is possible from time to time.

I'm pretty sure it was a little spewy. You overbeted a pair of 99 against the UTG when the board has 3 broadways. I can be wrong, but you can post this hand on the forum to confirm. Be careful with these moves, hehehehe.
I agree its just not a good idea to bluff this spot at all since UTG will just have a made hand of some kind too often. I wonder what hands I could possibly overbluff this river with though?

I sent the hand to a high stakes player and he told me just not to do this .
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11-01-2019 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Real_
I agree its just not a good idea to bluff this spot at all since UTG will just have a made hand of some kind too often. I wonder what hands I could possibly overbluff this river with though?

I sent the hand to a high stakes player and he told me just not to do this .
Hehehehe, yes, it wasn't a very solid move. But that happens, I do some things as that from time to time too.

Well, I can't say from a GTO point of view because I don't have a solver and I don't study it a lot. But I'd say you don't have a lot of overbets on this specific situation because the UTG will have a lot of hands that could play like that and call your overbet when a third broadway hits OTR. As I said, he could have straight, some sets, some 2P and even TP that will call you from time to time.

But if hits a brick OTR, you could think about overbeting hands that don't have showdown value and block some of the best villain's value hands at the same time. For example: if a 2 hits OTR, you could think about overbeting with KQs that you called OTF with a backdoor, because you'd block some hands that could call your overbeting as AK and AQ and you would unblock some of the 2nd-weak-villain-pairs as JT and J9.

But I wouldn't overbet an A-high board against UTG to much. A lot of players like to cbet Ax and check behind OTT to call any bet OTR, specially if they have AX.

I think you're doing great. Just be more discipline and don't transform your value into a bluff so much.

Best regards.
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