Played some today, ended up watching Brazil's game(family made a barbecue, couldn't pass on that lol), brazil got owned haha! It's funny to see that people love so much the soccer team, but we always owned like crazy on volleyball, also the best counter-strike player in the world is from Brazil if I'm not wrong, as well as in magic the gathering, one of the top guys is from here too. Meh, people don't value those guys at all.



Some hands

H1: vs tight reg, wtf is this hand, man. He is super trappy and uncapped on a lot of spots, I thought he could be valuebetting some KK/QQ/TT in there and went for the value-raise. OTR it's very unlikely he has air. Good fold? He has all FH combos and quads in there with his sizing OTR too. Should we just call vs someone who has so many FHs in his range?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.02 BB
SB: 105 BB
BB: 127.45 BB
UTG: 109.21 BB
MP: 111.6 BB
Hero (CO): 101 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

UTG raises to 2.12 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.12 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (5.74 BB, 2 players) 8 3 3
UTG bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (13.74 BB, 2 players) 8
UTG bets 6.79 BB, Hero calls 6.79 BB

River: (27.32 BB, 2 players) A
UTG bets 5.47 BB, Hero raises to 33.14 BB, UTG raises to 96.3 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 92.23 BB


H2: vs whale, river sizing would be so awkward, if I bet-fold small, I could induce some raise-bluffs, so it's a bad idea, jamming could be good, specially since I expect him to donk some 2-pairs. The other option is to bet big and call a raise. How much should I bet in there? Didn't have the balls to bet there, meh.

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 110.07 BB
SB: 268.62 BB
BB: 221.86 BB
UTG: 198.24 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 146.41 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 3 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 2 players) K 9 2
UTG bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

Turn: (27.5 BB, 2 players) 7
UTG checks, Hero bets 19.6 BB, UTG calls 19.6 BB

River: (66.69 BB, 2 players) 8
UTG checks, Hero checks




H3: wp? OTF people usually range bet, so when they check I expect to see a lot of traps going on. Is it fine to use that sizing OTR? I rarely get there with trips, so when I get, it's a good idea to go for 2x pot, right?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 100.5 BB
BB: 99.17 BB
UTG: 51.38 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 177.18 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.68 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) K 3 J
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (19 BB, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (19 BB, 2 players) K
SB checks, Hero bets 34 BB, fold

Hero wins 18.05 BB


H4: good sizing OTT/OTR? Decided to make that small because I don't have that many bluffs, also I can valuebet 2p for that sizing. If villain jams, are we folding or calling with this combo?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 107.49 BB
SB: 126.56 BB
BB: 392.92 BB
UTG: 214.31 BB
MP: 195.36 BB
CO: 613.54 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) 8 T 3
BB checks, Hero bets 4.4 BB, BB calls 4.4 BB

Turn: (13.93 BB, 2 players) 5
BB checks, Hero bets 23 BB, BB calls 23 BB

River: (59.93 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets 19.39 BB, fold

Hero wins 58.56 BB


H5: vs nit, funny to see how wide he is in there OTT, so annoying to see stuff like that when Ive made the sickest folds ever vs them lol.

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 142.86 BB
SB: 247.34 BB
BB: 101 BB
UTG: 118.43 BB
MP: 198.31 BB
CO: 234.68 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB, SB raises to 12.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 10 BB

Flop: (28.5 BB, 2 players) Q 4 4
SB bets 7.88 BB, Hero calls 7.88 BB

Turn: (44.25 BB, 2 players) 3
SB bets 25.27 BB, Hero calls 25.27 BB

River: (94.79 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero checks



H6: vs reg, is his call std? I thought it was really loose in there. What's the worst hand we should jam for value in that spot?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 204.81 BB
SB: 324.22 BB
BB: 331.58 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 105.41 BB
Hero (CO): 105.15 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BTN calls 2.32 BB, SB raises to 12 BB, fold, Hero raises to 105.15 BB and is all-in, fold, SB calls 93.15 BB

Flop: (213.62 BB, 2 players) 4 7 6

Turn: (213.62 BB, 2 players) 2

River: (213.62 BB, 2 players) A
Players agreed to run it twice.

Flop #2: (213.62 BB, 2 players) T K 9

Turn #2: (213.62 BB, 2 players) 5

River #2: (213.62 BB, 2 players) J

Cmon Rapid surely you can see the difference between supporting your national team at football and someone who plays Counterstrike or Magic the gathering. It's a world of difference and most people, rightly, couldn't care less about the latter two.

Hey Rapidesh123, I guess this soccer vs volleyball vs cs thing has to do with that old saying, "Gosto não se discute". lol
I´m guilty of that since I really enjoy watching a soccer match, especially when Galão da Massa is playing.
Anyway, gl with your goals.

Yeah, most people prefer soccer, but in south korea the starcraft team is more popular than the soccer team lol. The thing is that the population is still super proud of the team and dont even care about other games, even after the 7x1. If Im not wrong, Brazils volleyball team has been the best since a long time. Theres even a volleyball anime where they show people watching brazils team to learn strats lol.

Its weird living in a place where everyone loves soccer that much and I dont. I love playong it, its a great game, specially futsal, but watching is so boring. Just see the counter strike video I posted, thats insane.

Soccer ? You are from Brazil ? This is funny.

Played some 200z, meh, that limping strat is fun to play and it's interesting to study that, but gotta put volume on 200z, I have to keep fighting some good opponents to learn, today the pool had a lot of whales so I felt I was +EV in there. Still sunrunning, got some sick madskills in winning flips haha.

One thing about my game is that I really don't know why I'm winning, tbh I don't know where I'm destroying my opponents, when I play I'm super confused most of the time in most spots. The only kind of area of the game that I think that I'm taking advantage of my opponents is when it comes to folding, but I'm not sure if my thin valuebets are any good or if I'm underbluffing in some spots. I feel I'm underbluffing like crazy recently, I rarely lose a stack jamming as a bluff, probably variance.

Some hands

H1: was questioning myself if I had FE in there, with that many outs, just had to go for the vamo! haha

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 120.99 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 111.69 BB
CO: 132.3 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 5

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.25 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, BTN calls 6.75 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) J 6 4
Hero bets 5.98 BB, BTN calls 5.98 BB

Turn: (30.95 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BTN bets 24 BB, Hero raises to 85.03 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 77.58 BB


H2: didn't see the board really well lol, after I bet turn I realized my only outs were the straight flush draws haha. Luckly I had more! vaaaaaaaaamo

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 223.77 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 159.79 BB
UTG: 106.42 BB
MP: 122.23 BB
CO: 118.74 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, CO calls 7.7 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 3 4 3
Hero bets 6.61 BB, CO calls 6.61 BB

Turn: (34.21 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 21.67 BB, CO calls 21.67 BB

River: (77.55 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, CO checks




H3: good bluff? I feel I won't get into this spot with a hand worse than this, so decided to just bluff it.

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 120.77 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 100.61 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 5

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2.8 BB, Hero calls 1.8 BB

Flop: (5.6 BB, 2 players) 2 7 6
SB bets 1.76 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, SB raises to 16.9 BB, Hero calls 10.9 BB

Turn: (39.39 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 27.96 BB, Hero calls 27.96 BB

River: (95.31 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero bets 52.35 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 93.94 BB


H4: going for the vamo! In this spot it's quite easy to bet only when we spike the 8 OTR, so sometimes I force myself to throw some airballs in there haha

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 379.04 BB
SB: 102.7 BB
BB: 200.78 BB
UTG: 117.63 BB
MP: 106.68 BB
Hero (CO): 109.72 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 10.5 BB, Hero calls 8.18 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 2 players) A Q T
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets 39 BB, fold

Hero wins 20.43 BB


H5: vs slowplayer, it's sooooo good to see people getting punished for those bull**** checks OTF lol! It's so annoying to deal with that crap

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 111.88 BB
BB: 147.65 BB
UTG: 210.72 BB
MP: 6.7 BB
CO: 110.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 2

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 7.68 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 8 J A
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 2
BB bets 13 BB, Hero raises to 90 BB and is all-in, BB calls 77 BB

River: (200.5 BB, 2 players) 7
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (200.5 BB, 2 players) A




H6: good calldown?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 121.64 BB
SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 105.61 BB
UTG: 116.23 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 313.47 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, SB calls 1.5 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) 9 7 8
SB checks, Hero bets 1.89 BB, fold, SB raises to 6.81 BB, Hero calls 4.93 BB

Turn: (19.62 BB, 2 players) 4
SB bets 12.3 BB, Hero calls 12.3 BB

River: (44.22 BB, 2 players) 9
SB bets 28.28 BB, Hero calls 28.28 BB




H7: Should I raise the river for value? Which sizing should I use? Decided to start calling some nutted hands to protect my cold calling range, people are attacking it way more than on 100z, also there was a top reg from 500z behind and BB was squeezing a lot too.

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 376.67 BB
BB: 289.9 BB
UTG: 213.71 BB
MP: 82.07 BB
CO: 197.51 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG raises to 2.13 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.13 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (5.76 BB, 2 players) 3 2 J
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (5.76 BB, 2 players) 9
UTG bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

River: (13.76 BB, 2 players) 3
UTG bets 19.61 BB, Hero calls 19.61 BB



H8: good call, right? He can't have AKhh in there which was probably the most reasonable hand to do this, but he could have AK with the Ah, then I'm dead lol.

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 231.23 BB
SB: 60.8 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 140.84 BB
MP: 162.88 BB
CO: 112.83 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, MP raises to 24 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

Flop: (48.5 BB, 2 players) K 6 J
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: (48.5 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, MP bets 138.88 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 76 BB and is all-in

River: (200.5 BB, 2 players) 4
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (200.5 BB, 2 players) 7

Well that's one way to kill mirage's gimmick.

H6 seems like a fold ott, for the price you get on flop you can hope to hit something ott but once you brick i think you fold in this spot which is mw and 50 combos value. Also river there is a lot of reverse implied. Even if your turn call was correct, it has a massive potential to be terrible, almost like calling down bottom pair.

I usually dont cold call AA because u dont need the very best hand to be able to defend correctly vs squeezes, also having 2 aces reduces squeezing frquency by a good bit, I'd cold call hands like KK, QQ and AK though

peeling flop check raise with 93cc is fine but we can only continue turn on a club, a 3 or a 9 imo so just fold turn

don't think we get a profitable call with QQh in the last hand so I'd fold that too

everything else looks alright, 55 a bit funky but I think it may be fine

thx, guys, yeah, 93 plays pretty poorly OTR I thought that TP was ok to call in there, but it's one of the worst ones, should have folded.

on QQ hand his line was so weird, why did he check flop? maybe because my range has a lot more suited cards in there? So he checks flop to get rid of flushes(that will mostly bet when he checks) and get a safe valuebet vs my sdv?

Don't worry, neither does anybody else.

That's pretty clear.

H7 is one of the most miserably played AA I have ever seen. Just pathetic, what are you scared of, jam river like a man. i actually agree with xeno for once, its never a flat pre.

Well an overbet in this spot is generally a pretty polarizing bet. If we jam over the overbet and get a fold, we probably had the best hand already. You to think about what hands villain actually plays that way. Bluffs, nutted hands, and in this case the odd KK since rapid looks pretty capped.

But he bad KK though. JAM IT LIKE A MAN

Isn't that the point of playing AA like that, to under rep his hand and own villain? He only really loses to 9s there, the way villain played the hand, so who cares what villain might have, when we have no idea, so it seems like a value jam. The hand is misplayed on every street, so your end up in a stupid river spot but I think jamming is still highest ev.

I also forgot to mention the flop x from rapishfish was obviously awful as well, its like he was deliberately trying to win the least possible with AA. First hes protecting pre flop call range, then flop x range, I mean whats the point of even playing the hand. He should have potted flop, turn and jammed river instead of that sissy bs. Apart from folding river, that's about the nut worst way to play AA.

checking flop with AA is pretty standard, its the overpair that checks the most on a variety of flops because it doesn't need any protection and can not go 3 streets very often, it usually is a mix depending on flop, but yeah checking is not "obviously awful"

My AA didnt maximize vs his exact hand ofc, but vs his range and other opponents ranges. Im still testing that stuff, obv it was annoying to see KK in there. But my cc range is something I really like about my strat and I dont want to see people messing with me as much as they want in that spot, also some guys squeeze-call AJ/kq, thinkimg Im capped to TT, so trapping AA is ok if people will stackoff that light.

Btw, I think it makes more sense to trap AA than KK, since AA needs less protection than KK Pre

I love how you are completely clueless with your sizings mirage. Maybe it is time to actually get a solver.

But then again the thread would be nothing without the mirage xeno back and forth meme thing

that's true for 3bet and 4bet pots maybe but not really for SRPs

I love it when MTT players pretend to know anything about anything. The day 2+2 ******s, start agreeing with me is the day I start to get worried.

Standard? Ye maybe, and that's why its awful. AA can't get 3 streets there? Maybe but you should at least be trying.

well if I start agreeing with you I will have to move down stakes and probably go busto, so It's very unlikely

I think we can jam river with AA if villain range checks flop, cause then he would have almost any KJ+ in that spot. Also, villain only has 11 potential combos that beat you, so if he calls a jam with all QQ+ that is 12 combos already that you beat.

I am curious by the way soccer fans, how is it perceived when players are diving, feels like a lot of pro athletes are angle shooting that way, makes the game a bit ******ed. Do you guys find it fine or do you think there should be serious penalties for diving?

Hate diving but the problem is if players do get fouled and try to stay on their feet refs won't call the foul so they just go down any time there is contact. With VAR now I think diving will be less of an issue. I dislike the rolling on the floor pretending to be injured and asking for cards a lot more.

When you overbet river and get jammed on are you calling QQ? I doubt it.
AJ-QQ is bottom of his overbet value range so he would be folding that anyway.