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03-08-2018 , 09:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
meh hes cbetting 4 way against super strong ranges, what does he think they are flatting him pre with? Just awful. Squeezing 78o vs utg and mp in bb? I thought I was the one trolling but looks like im getting trolled. GG
well I personally think he shouldn't c-bet without a backdoor flushdraw multiway but from the way you talk it's like you should just never bluff the flop?
03-09-2018 , 08:22 AM
I've looked through the hands in the last few pages. Some you played well and made good folds, others you played poorly. You're still making a number of terrible mistakes. 6 years into poker, you play too aggro and fancy in too many spots. Don't be surprised if you hit a massive downswing soon, when this aggro style doesn't work.
03-09-2018 , 08:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
I've looked through the hands in the last few pages. Some you played well and made good folds, others you played poorly. You're still making a number of terrible mistakes. 6 years into poker, you play too aggro and fancy in too many spots. Don't be surprised if you hit a massive downswing soon, when this aggro style doesn't work.
It's not like I play super crazy all the time, most of the hands I play aren't that crazy at all, I just post here the most interesting ones, which tend to have weird moves/deviations and usually bigger pots.
03-09-2018 , 11:41 AM
Played some today, meh, first time in the month I've tilted in some hands, can't win all-ins at all, I think I'm probably +EV for the month, but at least 10 BI below EV

Some hands

H1: if he jammed the river, should I call? He was a whale, like 60+ vpip, but he wasn't super aggro in the sample I had

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 82.88 BB
SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 101 BB
MP: 294 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, MP calls 12 BB

Flop: (33.5 BB, 2 players) 5 T 8
Hero bets 10.52 BB, MP raises to 22 BB, Hero calls 11.48 BB

Turn: (77.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, MP bets 19 BB, Hero calls 19 BB

River: (115.5 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, MP checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows A Q (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 70%, Flop 69%, Turn 84%)
MP mucks 9 Q (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 30%, Flop 31%, Turn 16%)
Hero wins 111.5 BB



H2: vs straightforward reg, His stats were so aggro per street, but I marked him as straightforward from the hands we played together. He is a massive nit too, so maybe that's the reason why he is always betting at a high frequency OTT and OTR? Terrible river to call, meh

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 101.5 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 90.56 BB
UTG: 117.16 BB
MP: 303.74 BB
CO: 86.92 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.68 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) K Q 8
SB bets 8 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

Turn: (35 BB, 2 players) T
SB bets 19.5 BB, Hero calls 19.5 BB

River: (74 BB, 2 players) T
SB bets 63.5 BB and is all-in, fold

SB wins 70.3 BB


H3: any merits of jamming turn vs betting small? the 3-bettor was probably checking his AK, by jamming we lose value vs that.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 128.2 BB
SB: 295.18 BB
BB: 161.98 BB
Hero (UTG): 100.32 BB
MP: 189.2 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 3

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, MP calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 11 BB, Hero calls 8.68 BB, MP calls 8.68 BB

Flop: (33.5 BB, 3 players) 3 Q J
BB bets 14.32 BB, Hero calls 14.32 BB, MP calls 14.32 BB

Turn: (76.46 BB, 3 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets 24.04 BB, MP calls 24.04 BB, fold

River: (124.54 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 50.96 BB and is all-in, MP calls 50.96 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows 3 3 (Full House, Threes full of Jacks)
(Pre 53%, Flop 96%, Turn 91%)
MP shows J A (Full House, Jacks full of Aces)
(Pre 47%, Flop 4%, Turn 9%)
MP wins 222.46 BB


H4: here is the spew. Squeezer was pretty wide, RFI was marked as a station, probably a fish. I jammed because I thought the squeezer was 3-bet-folding a ton and I was flipping vs a good part of RFI's range. So I thought it could be +EV jamming there. It's bad, but at that time it made sense with that much dead money already in the pot.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 111.06 BB
BB: 105.72 BB
UTG: 110.9 BB
MP: 90.52 BB
CO: 282.84 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, BB raises to 16 BB, UTG calls 13 BB, fold, Hero raises to 111.06 BB and is all-in, BB calls 89.72 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 94.9 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Flop: (330.52 BB, 3 players) 4 9 3

Turn: (330.52 BB, 3 players) 4

River: (330.52 BB, 3 players) T
Players agreed to run it twice.

Flop #2: (330.52 BB, 3 players) K 6 J

Turn #2: (330.52 BB, 3 players) 2

River #2: (330.52 BB, 3 players) J

Hero shows 5 5 (Two Pair, Fives and Fours)

Board #1 Main Pot [320.16 BB]: (Pre 22%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
Board #1 Side Pot#1 [10.36 BB]: (Pre 23%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
Board #1 Main Pot [320.16 BB]: (Pre 22%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%) (Two Pair, Jacks and Fives)

Board #2 Main Pot [320.16 BB]: (Pre 24%, Flop 9%, Turn 3%)
Board #1 Side Pot [10.36 BB]: (Pre 23%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%) (Two Pair, Jacks and Fives)

Board #2 Side Pot [10.36 BB]: (Pre 25%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)

UTG shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Fours)

Board #1 Main Pot [320.16 BB]: (Pre 39%, Flop 47%, Turn 48%)
Board #1 Side Pot#1 [10.36 BB]: (Pre 77%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
Board #1 Main Pot [320.16 BB]: (Pre 39%, Flop 47%, Turn 48%) (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)

Board #2 Main Pot [320.16 BB]: (Pre 38%, Flop 43%, Turn 38%)
Board #1 Side Pot [10.36 BB]: (Pre 77%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%) (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)

Board #2 Side Pot [10.36 BB]: (Pre 75%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)

BB shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Fours)

Board #1 Main Pot [320.16 BB]: (Pre 39%, Flop 42%, Turn 48%)
Board #1 Main Pot [320.16 BB]: (Pre 39%, Flop 42%, Turn 48%) (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)

Board #2 Main Pot [320.16 BB]: (Pre 38%, Flop 48%, Turn 59%)

BB wins 79.04 BB
BB wins 79.04 BB
UTG wins 84.22 BB
UTG wins 84.22 BB



H5: vs unknown fish. It's a very bad line I took vs a weaktight guy, but vs a massive whale that is never folding a pair, I like it a lot. Since I don't know which of those this guy was, I went on stackoff mode with this combo, which has value vs big whales + equity vs nutted ranges from weaktight fish. If I didn't have the FD I would have probably just called turn to avoid getting owned by a weaktight fish. Good line of thought?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 69.4 BB
BB: 99.5 BB
Hero (UTG): 101 BB
MP: 34.64 BB
CO: 118.56 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 9

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 1.82 BB, fold

Flop: (5.64 BB, 2 players) 9 Q 7
SB bets 2 BB, Hero raises to 11.36 BB, SB calls 9.36 BB

Turn: (28.36 BB, 2 players) 2
SB bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 32.7 BB, SB raises to 55.72 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 23.02 BB

River: (139.8 BB, 2 players) K

Spoiler:
SB shows 7 7 (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 62%, Flop 86%, Turn 75%)
Hero shows 7 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Sevens)
(Pre 38%, Flop 14%, Turn 25%)
SB wins 135.8 BB



H6: vs best reg of 50z, super std call OTR, right?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 101 BB
SB: 55.14 BB
BB: 108.38 BB
UTG: 291.22 BB
MP: 56.82 BB
CO: 124.42 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, SB calls 7.5 BB, fold, CO calls 5.6 BB

Flop: (25 BB, 3 players) J A 8
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 7.86 BB, fold, CO calls 7.86 BB

Turn: (40.72 BB, 2 players) K
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (40.72 BB, 2 players) 3
CO bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB

Spoiler:
CO shows J K (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Pre 38%, Flop 21%, Turn 73%)
Hero mucks T A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 62%, Flop 79%, Turn 27%)
CO wins 76.72 BB


H7: vs nit, that's why I keep saying about the weaknesses of those small sizings with small hands. He lets himself to get valueowned like crazy there(because he is likely almost potting OTF with his sets).

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 98.5 BB
SB: 99 BB
BB: 39.12 BB
UTG: 511.04 BB
MP: 302.9 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 9

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.14 BB, 2 players) 5 9 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 2.92 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, BTN calls 7.08 BB

Turn: (26.14 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (26.14 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 8.22 BB, BTN calls 8.22 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows 8 9 (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 36%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
BTN mucks 8 8 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 64%, Flop 13%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins 40.46 BB



H8: RFI was a huge nit, reason why I didn't 3-bet TT, he is straightforward(same guy as the KJ hand), his line has almost no bluffs and I'm probably beat there, so the decision is between folding or raising. I think these guys overfold in that spot. Good? Messed up with the sizing, I usually make it around 40bb+ in that spot, was having action on other tables and just potted

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 209.34 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 133.72 BB
UTG: 107.88 BB
MP: 133.66 BB
CO: 149.18 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

UTG raises to 2.88 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.38 BB, fold

Flop: (6.76 BB, 2 players) 6 A 7
Hero checks, UTG bets 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Turn: (10.76 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: (10.76 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, UTG bets 4.5 BB, Hero raises to 22 BB, fold

Hero wins 18.78 BB
03-09-2018 , 12:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
It's not like I play super crazy all the time, most of the hands I play aren't that crazy at all, I just post here the most interesting ones, which tend to have weird moves/deviations and usually bigger pots.
You play crazy enough of the time to destroy your win rate and never progress beyond the micros in the 6 years you've played poker.
03-09-2018 , 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
You play crazy enough of the time to destroy your win rate and never progress beyond the micros in the 6 years you've played poker.
nah, I looked at my early days at 10z on stars, where I've played 300k hands, I ran insanely bad over the sample, a ton below EV(more than 60 BI), bottom 5% of flopped sets and straights really low too. Also all the time I've tried to move up to 25z I got owned by variance too. Even with that I had a 3bb/100 winrate there.

Ofc I was spewing like crazy too, specially on 25z in the FR times. But I've cut the spew so much in the last 3-4 months that it's not even close. There were tons of pot where I was just donating 5-20 bbs out of nowhere, right now it's rare.

I post basically every hand I spew in here, I've played around 30k hands/month in the last months. It's quite low the amount of spew if you look at the sample size.

Just as an example, if this hand was dealt to me sometime ago, I'm pretty sure I was likely to lose a stack in there by overbluffing like crazy in that runnout

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 40.14 BB
SB: 101.28 BB
BB: 222.44 BB
UTG: 263.78 BB
MP: 118.86 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 8

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 3 9 9
MP checks, Hero bets 6.12 BB, MP calls 6.12 BB

Turn: (31.74 BB, 2 players) Q
MP checks, Hero checks

River: (31.74 BB, 2 players) T
MP checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:
MP shows 9 9 (Four of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 82%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks 7 8 (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 18%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
MP wins 30.16 BB
03-09-2018 , 01:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
nah, I looked at my early days at 10z <snip>
All of that may be true, but that doesn't mean what he said is untrue. Everyone reading this thread knows that what he said is the truth. You're destroying your wr and are still at micros by making these plays. Whether or not you post the hands that are interesting or not played well or whatever makes no difference. You play a lot of hands badly and it's destroying your winrate. Stop doing that!
03-09-2018 , 01:17 PM
He is obviously still making mistakes... but also seems obvious he is doing better.

Idk how Rapidesh still posts here as many posts try to be helpful but with extremely antagonistic qualities... (cough cough poker players)

Definitely still spew but seems to be going in the right direction now.
03-09-2018 , 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .isolated
All of that may be true, but that doesn't mean what he said is untrue. Everyone reading this thread knows that what he said is the truth. You're destroying your wr and are still at micros by making these plays. Whether or not you post the hands that are interesting or not played well or whatever makes no difference. You play a lot of hands badly and it's destroying your winrate. Stop doing that!
I'm doing my best to play my hands well, man.

Moving up in poker is quite a hard task. It's way harder to move up than before, my biggest issue isn't the quality of play from regs, but at how much the reduction of rakeback is making it a lot tougher for people in the micros to move up to small stakes. I have paid more than 9k in rake since I've moved up to 50z(8bb/100), the rakeback was probably lower than $400, if we had the same rakeback system as before, I would have +$3k in my bankroll right now. I've also ran -1.5k below EV since I've moved up to 50z.(my bankroll is at $2400 right now)

I'm pretty confident I can beat 100z, I'm playing really well, the problem is that I'm not rolled for it and my volume isn't huge, so it will take some time. I'm fine with that, will keep putting the volume, hoping for the best and using good BRM until I get there.

It's easy to say "quit making bad plays", but I'm doing my best right now, not only avoiding bad plays, but making really impossible folds like in that set over set in a 3-bet pot. If I had lost my last 50bbs there, it would take me around 1k hands to cover just that fold that I was capable of making vs that massive nit(considering a 5bb/100 winrate).

Also some plays look like spew, but can actually be good vs some players. People also underestimate the "image factor", some regs in the pool never fold a pair vs me depending on the runnout, and if once in a while I bluff them, they end up paying me off later because "I could be bluffing".

Cmon, man, some guys are stacking off vs me with 99 on UTG dynamics all day just because they saw me cold 4-betting K4s once.
03-09-2018 , 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
He is obviously still making mistakes... but also seems obvious he is doing better.

Idk how Rapidesh still posts here as many posts try to be helpful but with extremely antagonistic qualities... (cough cough poker players)

Definitely still spew but seems to be going in the right direction now.
the people who help outweigh the trolls, I've learned more with the advices posted in this thread than watching RIO videos
03-09-2018 , 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Idk how Rapidesh still posts here as many posts try to be helpful but with extremely antagonistic qualities... (cough cough poker players)
I wouldn't be so antagonistic with rapid if he didn't have an excuse every time someone tries to give him advice or criticism. In the many years I've posted on 2p2, I've never seen someone as thick headed as him who claims they want to get better at poker.

I agree with the rest of your post.

Quote:
It's easy to say "quit making bad plays"
I realize this. It's like telling someone not to tilt. It doesn't just go away and can only improve over time. How about if I just said, improve it quicker? gl out there
03-09-2018 , 02:14 PM
@isolated, wasn't specifically referencing you.... more some other posts itt.
03-09-2018 , 02:16 PM
Isolated’s post seems fine to me, others in here just seem overly dickish and Rapid does a good job of not responding negatively. Others just seem to be unnecessarily critical.
03-09-2018 , 02:37 PM
Just fold 55 dude, UTG might still have JJ-QQ/AK and you dont rep anything doing that, ATs is bad call OTR, what kind of hands is he bluffing there? you assume that he floats A2s-A9s OOP vs a 3b or he's bluffing with SDV?
Also think in what kind of image he has if he floats KJo OOP that's already pretty bad.
03-09-2018 , 02:43 PM
I don't think people would be so condescending towards rapid if he actually tried to adjust his game at a reasonable pace. 5+ years in the micros is awful for someone who devoted so much time to the game. The other part of it is any decent advice seems to go through one ear and out the other. The first year I played poker I moved up to 100z and the year after that 200z. Granted the games were slightly better back then due to rb but Jesus 5 years at less than 100nl is atrocious.

Last edited by Maverick93; 03-09-2018 at 02:51 PM.
03-09-2018 , 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick93
I don't think people would be so condescending towards rapid if he actually tried to adjust his game at a reasonable pace. 5+ years in the micros is awful for someone who devoted so much time to the game. The other part of it is any decent advice seems to go through one ear and out the other. The first year I played poker I moved up to 100z and the year after that 200z. Granted the games were slightly better back then due to rb but Jesus 5 years at less than 100nl is atrocious.
I quit in 2014 and came back in 2017
03-09-2018 , 03:14 PM
Fair enough I suppose. I'm going off of what others have said regarding your supposed long stay in the micros, so apologies if I'm mistaken. For all I know you could've been at the micros for less than 2 years, which isn't so bad after all. Regardless, I moved up quickly by listening to players who played at higher limits than I did. From what I've seen, you listen to advice but you don't truly take it in. Most of your responses are spent justifying your own decisions with little regard for the rest of the world outside of the box.
03-09-2018 , 03:16 PM
Enjoy your thread and find your strategies and view points on hands very interesting, would say that referring to yourself as a legend in your thread title, definitely adds to the criticism and ridicule being justifiable.
03-09-2018 , 05:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by herbalerv
would say that referring to yourself as a legend in your thread title, definitely adds to the criticism and ridicule being justifiable.
It's just a joke, man, mostly because of my reputation on 2+2, basically 90% of my HH posted in the micro stakes forum were criticized a ton and had a huge amount of trolling going on(mostly by other people ofc lol)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick93
Fair enough I suppose. I'm going off of what others have said regarding your supposed long stay in the micros, so apologies if I'm mistaken. For all I know you could've been at the micros for less than 2 years, which isn't so bad after all. Regardless, I moved up quickly by listening to players who played at higher limits than I did. From what I've seen, you listen to advice but you don't truly take it in. Most of your responses are spent justifying your own decisions with little regard for the rest of the world outside of the box.
I don't know what you guys expect from me, but I'm already playing really well, man, since I've improved a ton post-flop, this is my 50z graph:



More than 6bbev, really good, strat changed a bit between the graph, but it was mostly pre-flop stuff, decided to tighten up a bit to lose less to rake and avoid breakeven spots, as well as fighting for pots slightly less/valuebetting slightly less thin/trapping more

You guys go really nuts on some spots that aren't really that important, like in that KQcc hand, it doesn't matter if I just overbet jam or bet 33% OTT, hand has so much equity that the only important thing is that we're betting. There's not much to butcher on spots like that. That's one of the reasons why I'm quite stubborn in some spots. Sometimes I won't understand why some advice is good, so after some time I change my mind and accept that advice, like I've done so many times here. But I'm not always accepting all advice people post here, just look at mirage's advice, most of them are terrible, I change my mind when things make sense to me.

It's easy to see a play that is unorthodox and call it a spew, while it could easily be printing. In poker we're taught to be nits, and tbh, nits are rewarded even in today's games. Just as an example: the guy in the hand I folded a set over set, I have 3k hands on him, basically more hands than I have in the best 50z reg. I wouldn't be surprised if that 18/6 with 2% 3-bet guy was break-even or winning by 2bb/100.

But for me, the goal in poker was always to try to get the maximum of all spots, to break the game, take every opportunity and beat each opponent to the maximum. And it's impossible to do that as a nit. If I had followed all advice people gave me on 2+2, I would still be a nit, probably I could have made some more money, but not that much. Instead, I've put myself in a ton of tough spots and improved a lot.

It took me a lot more time to reach higher stakes, but I learned a ton. And tbh, most of the problem happened last year when I was spewing off like crazy, had a -10bb/100 winrate over more than 30k hands.

Right now I know how to play a reasonable strategy, not overbluffing, not underbluffing and I learned how to adjust vs some players. There are spots that I know villain has a weak hand trying to go for thin value, and that vs the average player in the pool, he would fold to a big river check-raise, but I don't bluff because I know they won't fold vs me. I valuebet super thin instead.


I was reluctant to post this hand, but here it goes, played it sometime ago. Look at the entire action OTT and OTR before opening the spoiler and ask yourself: How often is villain calling? How many times have you seen someone bluff with that action sequence?

Btw, lead turn was a mistake because this guy was protecting his checking back range, he probably had AQ/AA/QQ/AKc, I quickly read his note and I had it marked that he had those tendencies and in less than 1 second I threw the 3-bet OTT.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 131.1 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 159.98 BB
MP: 103.18 BB
CO: 98.22 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has
Spoiler:
3 3


fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.5 BB, 2 players) 9 6 A
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (4.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 2.82 BB, BTN raises to 11 BB, Hero raises to 30.72 BB, BTN calls 19.72 BB

River: (65.94 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 67.28 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 62.64 BB

This play looks like a massive spew, and it's terrible from a GTO point of view, we have 0 blockers, 0 equity, represent a narrow range and we're against a very VERY strong range. But if you take some time to think, if someone posts the same hand, but when hero actually had K9cc, everyone says "std", "wp" but nobody says: wait, but which bluffs are you using in that spot? "You have to be careful and bluff there sometimes, otherwise you will underbluff and let villain overfold his low flushes/sets there".

It's easy to say one specific hand is spew, or that something is bad, but the most important thing in poker isn't how we play our individual hands(most of the time), but how we play our range. Vs a fish, we opt to play a very unbalanced range towards the nuts because they won't fold, but if we're playing vs thinking players, simple strats like that won't cut it.

Last edited by Rapidesh123; 03-09-2018 at 05:35 PM.
03-09-2018 , 05:30 PM
Btw, found an interesting hand I think I played poorly: what is better? Checking the river or jamming? Villain looked like a semi-fish (22/10), 2 AF

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 98.5 BB
Hero (SB): 123.9 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 114.04 BB
MP: 182.84 BB
CO: 203.7 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 13 BB

Flop: (33 BB, 2 players) K J 3
Hero bets 10.38 BB, BTN raises to 20.76 BB, Hero calls 10.38 BB

Turn: (74.52 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (74.52 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 88.14 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 70.8 BB
03-09-2018 , 07:58 PM
The point you made regarding the spoilers is not true at all. Maybe some posters look at the spoilers and go "ohh yea terrible raise" but I promise a lot of the other posters don't give a **** about the end result. And I do think your raise with 33 is spew. Yes you won the hand but of all the bluff combos you can have there you picked one of the worst ones.
03-09-2018 , 08:59 PM
results definitively have an impact on how people respond
03-10-2018 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
It's just a joke, man, mostly because of my reputation on 2+2, basically 90% of my HH posted in the micro stakes forum were criticized a ton and had a huge amount of trolling going on(mostly by other people ofc lol)



I don't know what you guys expect from me, but I'm already playing really well, man, since I've improved a ton post-flop, this is my 50z graph:



More than 6bbev, really good, strat changed a bit between the graph, but it was mostly pre-flop stuff, decided to tighten up a bit to lose less to rake and avoid breakeven spots, as well as fighting for pots slightly less/valuebetting slightly less thin/trapping more

You guys go really nuts on some spots that aren't really that important, like in that KQcc hand, it doesn't matter if I just overbet jam or bet 33% OTT, hand has so much equity that the only important thing is that we're betting. There's not much to butcher on spots like that. That's one of the reasons why I'm quite stubborn in some spots. Sometimes I won't understand why some advice is good, so after some time I change my mind and accept that advice, like I've done so many times here. But I'm not always accepting all advice people post here, just look at mirage's advice, most of them are terrible, I change my mind when things make sense to me.

It's easy to see a play that is unorthodox and call it a spew, while it could easily be printing. In poker we're taught to be nits, and tbh, nits are rewarded even in today's games. Just as an example: the guy in the hand I folded a set over set, I have 3k hands on him, basically more hands than I have in the best 50z reg. I wouldn't be surprised if that 18/6 with 2% 3-bet guy was break-even or winning by 2bb/100.

But for me, the goal in poker was always to try to get the maximum of all spots, to break the game, take every opportunity and beat each opponent to the maximum. And it's impossible to do that as a nit. If I had followed all advice people gave me on 2+2, I would still be a nit, probably I could have made some more money, but not that much. Instead, I've put myself in a ton of tough spots and improved a lot.

It took me a lot more time to reach higher stakes, but I learned a ton. And tbh, most of the problem happened last year when I was spewing off like crazy, had a -10bb/100 winrate over more than 30k hands.

Right now I know how to play a reasonable strategy, not overbluffing, not underbluffing and I learned how to adjust vs some players. There are spots that I know villain has a weak hand trying to go for thin value, and that vs the average player in the pool, he would fold to a big river check-raise, but I don't bluff because I know they won't fold vs me. I valuebet super thin instead.


I was reluctant to post this hand, but here it goes, played it sometime ago. Look at the entire action OTT and OTR before opening the spoiler and ask yourself: How often is villain calling? How many times have you seen someone bluff with that action sequence?

Btw, lead turn was a mistake because this guy was protecting his checking back range, he probably had AQ/AA/QQ/AKc, I quickly read his note and I had it marked that he had those tendencies and in less than 1 second I threw the 3-bet OTT.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 131.1 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 159.98 BB
MP: 103.18 BB
CO: 98.22 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has
Spoiler:
3 3


fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.5 BB, 2 players) 9 6 A
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (4.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 2.82 BB, BTN raises to 11 BB, Hero raises to 30.72 BB, BTN calls 19.72 BB

River: (65.94 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 67.28 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 62.64 BB

This play looks like a massive spew, and it's terrible from a GTO point of view, we have 0 blockers, 0 equity, represent a narrow range and we're against a very VERY strong range. But if you take some time to think, if someone posts the same hand, but when hero actually had K9cc, everyone says "std", "wp" but nobody says: wait, but which bluffs are you using in that spot? "You have to be careful and bluff there sometimes, otherwise you will underbluff and let villain overfold his low flushes/sets there".

It's easy to say one specific hand is spew, or that something is bad, but the most important thing in poker isn't how we play our individual hands(most of the time), but how we play our range. Vs a fish, we opt to play a very unbalanced range towards the nuts because they won't fold, but if we're playing vs thinking players, simple strats like that won't cut it.
Sickooooo!
Re the read that villain likes to check back his top pair / bdfd etc on the flop, he can check back 4 to a flush as well I assume. Not saying we shouldn't bluff though.
03-10-2018 , 06:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Btw, found an interesting hand I think I played poorly: what is better? Checking the river or jamming? Villain looked like a semi-fish (22/10), 2 AF

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 98.5 BB
Hero (SB): 123.9 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 114.04 BB
MP: 182.84 BB
CO: 203.7 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 13 BB

Flop: (33 BB, 2 players) K J 3
Hero bets 10.38 BB, BTN raises to 20.76 BB, Hero calls 10.38 BB

Turn: (74.52 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (74.52 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 88.14 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 70.8 BB
Good I think, T improves some 2 pair and flush but mostly we are ahead, obv he going to fold a lot when he takes the silly line. I might just try and bluffcatch though and also we beat some of his vbets. Seems quite close, check fold probably the worst thing to do?
03-10-2018 , 07:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Btw, found an interesting hand I think I played poorly: what is better? Checking the river or jamming? Villain looked like a semi-fish (22/10), 2 AF
How about jamming the flop rather than flatting, and letting the fish get free rivers on a super wet board in such a big pot? As played he has nothing obviously so river should be a check, to let him bluff. His line totally shut you down and exploited you and your calling him the fish. lolz.

      
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