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02-14-2018 , 06:49 PM
pretty sure arty is wrong here and on that particular board in these positions every Ax should be defending the overbet turn, we'd be overfolding by quite a bit otherwise not to mention we are against a range that contains no sets
02-14-2018 , 08:14 PM
what you doing in that KThh hand on JJJ flop if i raise river vs your small sizing

ofc i butchered my hand by not betting flop, like ur line tho, kinda owned me and assumed i probs dont turn enough pps into bluffs vs this size on river
02-14-2018 , 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Labax
what you doing in that KThh hand on JJJ flop if i raise river vs your small sizing
I fold, and your std should be to fold in that spot vs a random, even vs a min-raise it should be a fold vs the population.

Quote:
ofc i butchered my hand by not betting flop, like ur line tho, kinda owned me and assumed i probs dont turn enough pps into bluffs vs this size on river
nah, you had to call specially vs that 15% sizing, even if you're owned a ton of the time, it's better to call and have a nice time sleeping at night without thinking about that fold lol. I'm probably one of the few that can be bluffing with 33% sizings OTR lol, just see a hand some pages ago where I bluffed for 1bb into a 20bb pot haha.

OTF I think you should bet

bluff raising the river is good vs some people, but I wouldn't expect the population to fold FHs there, specially when you could be valuebetting the same hand.

Now raising the river with a king is a really good move imo
02-14-2018 , 08:47 PM
Played some today, ran bad, probably lost some, but played really well on average.

H1: This hand and next hand happened vs the same guy, back to back, good check-call OTT? check-folding river, right?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102 BB
SB: 116.18 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 364.76 BB
MP: 143.22 BB
CO: 120.58 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T Q

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 13.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 9.5 BB

Flop: (28.5 BB, 2 players) K T 7
Hero bets 8.96 BB, BTN calls 8.96 BB

Turn: (46.42 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 23 BB, Hero calls 23 BB

River: (92.42 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BTN checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows T Q (Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)
(Pre 42%, Flop 68%, Turn 80%)
BTN mucks J A (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 58%, Flop 32%, Turn 20%)
Hero wins 88.42 BB



H2: right after H1, where this guy just checked behind without bluffing the best river, we had a pretty similar spot, but I thought that since he didn't bluff last hand, he could think that he would get more respect on this one. So I went and made that light call. Good thought process? In theory it's still a call, right? All his bluffs didn't get there.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 105.52 BB
Hero (SB): 142.96 BB
BB: 157.12 BB
UTG: 236.44 BB
MP: 133.36 BB
CO: 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 9

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.4 BB, BTN calls 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, CO calls 10.6 BB, fold

Flop: (29.4 BB, 2 players) K 5 9
Hero bets 9.24 BB, CO calls 9.24 BB

Turn: (47.88 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, CO bets 23 BB, Hero calls 23 BB

River: (93.88 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, CO bets 54.76 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 54.76 BB

Spoiler:
CO shows 8 7 (High Card, King)
(Pre 37%, Flop 23%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows J 9 (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 63%, Flop 77%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 199.4 BB



H3: optimistic by me, vs unknown, but meh, he has soooo many pocket pairs that could be floating and folding river. OTF it's fine, OTT it's bad, but I like the river. What do you guys think? Check-fold turn? But if I bet the turn, river it's a jam, right?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 192.98 BB
Hero (SB): 103.96 BB
BB: 195.04 BB
UTG: 103 BB
MP: 99 BB
CO: 244.58 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 12 BB

Flop: (34 BB, 2 players) J 7 4
Hero bets 10.68 BB, CO calls 10.68 BB

Turn: (55.36 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 17.42 BB, CO calls 17.42 BB

River: (90.2 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 60.86 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 86.2 BB


H4: this is a part of my game that I'm working on right now, I'm reducing my valuebets when villain is likely to have air and check so he can bluff. Is it good? OTT we're check-jamming, right?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 117.88 BB
Hero (SB): 123.16 BB
BB: 192.82 BB
UTG: 109.58 BB
MP: 101.5 BB
CO: 107.64 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, CO calls 8 BB

Flop: (23 BB, 2 players) J 9 T
Hero checks, CO bets 13.32 BB, Hero calls 13.32 BB

Turn: (49.64 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (49.64 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, CO bets 28.76 BB, Hero calls 28.76 BB

Spoiler:
CO shows K 8 (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 39%, Flop 28%, Turn 16%)
Hero shows A Q (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 61%, Flop 72%, Turn 84%)
Hero wins 103.16 BB


H5: not much strat about this one, just a cool call hand by a fish lol!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 111.64 BB
Hero (SB): 114.5 BB
BB: 137.6 BB
UTG: 283.24 BB
MP: 116.58 BB
CO: 82.18 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, UTG calls 11.5 BB

Flop: (31 BB, 2 players) 8 7 4
Hero bets 26.48 BB, UTG calls 26.48 BB

Turn: (83.96 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 73.02 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 73.02 BB

River: (230 BB, 2 players) 2

Spoiler:
Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 72%, Flop 79%, Turn 89%)
UTG shows A 7 (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 28%, Flop 21%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins 226 BB


H6: vs unknown, good bet-fold OTR? If I have AK, should I check behind or bet-fold? By blocking his Kx it's quite bad to bet, right?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 66.5 BB
SB: 99.98 BB
BB: 50 BB
UTG: 213.48 BB
MP: 111.7 BB
Hero (CO): 101.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, SB calls 1.82 BB, fold

Flop: (5.64 BB, 2 players) 3 J K
SB checks, Hero bets 4.02 BB, SB calls 4.02 BB

Turn: (13.68 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 9.76 BB, SB calls 9.76 BB

River: (33.2 BB, 2 players) J
SB checks, Hero bets 23.66 BB, SB raises to 83.88 BB and is all-in, fold

SB wins 76.52 BB


H7: annoying spot OTR, villain's name was "themaniac266", his stats were 18/10 ._.
Good fold, right?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 123.36 BB
SB: 114.44 BB
BB: 92.92 BB
Hero (UTG): 105.54 BB
MP: 87.84 BB
CO: 98.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.68 BB

Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 9 2 Q
Hero checks, BTN bets 6.92 BB, Hero calls 6.92 BB

Turn: (29.34 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN bets 17 BB, Hero calls 17 BB

River: (63.34 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN bets 28.28 BB, fold

BTN wins 60.18 BB
02-14-2018 , 09:33 PM
H1 I'd jus complete in bb pre
Same with h2

Considering x/j with the aq hand is leak
02-14-2018 , 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
H1 I'd jus complete in bb pre
Same with h2

Considering x/j with the aq hand is leak
thx, man, yeah I overdid with j9s, but isn't it fine reisolating the fish with QTs?

what's the reasoning with never x/j AQ?
should we call to protect our range on both bricks and 1-to-straight rivers?
02-14-2018 , 10:30 PM
the lower the opening size the lower the incentive you have to 3b for j9s

with qts better to call since hand is more middling and plays ok multiway

cant x/j aq because that is a huge overplay and turning ur hand into a bluff vs. a range that connects very well with the board and is uncapped
02-17-2018 , 09:07 AM
Played some yesterday, got owned

Some hands

H1: my std is to fold river, but guy had aggro stats, sample was small, but he had high flop cbet stats, reasonable 3-bet and high turn AFQ and high WWSF. Is this call ok? Or should I just keep folding vs people until I get enough sample to justify this as a clear call?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 302.54 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 173.06 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 146.72 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, CO raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 6.68 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 3 2 T
Hero checks, CO bets 6.12 BB, Hero calls 6.12 BB

Turn: (31.74 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, CO bets 23.52 BB, Hero calls 23.52 BB

River: (78.78 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, CO bets 61.36 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 61.36 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
CO shows A 4 (Straight, Five High)

Hero shows 9 9 (One Pair, Nines)

CO wins 197.5 BB


H2: is my valuebet OTR ok or too thin? Is it better to check-call or check-fold vs unknown?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101.5 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 55.68 BB
UTG: 103.88 BB
MP: 102.62 BB
CO: 116.12 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.8 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, CO calls 8.2 BB

Flop: (23 BB, 2 players) 9 Q 5
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (23 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 14.4 BB, CO calls 14.4 BB

River: (51.8 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 25.58 BB, CO calls 25.58 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Nines)
(Pre 57%, Flop 12%, Turn 5%)
CO shows A Q (Two Pair, Queens and Nines)
(Pre 43%, Flop 88%, Turn 95%)
CO wins 98.96 BB


H3: vs unknown, is this line ok? I'm super annoyed by those random guys that call 3-bets, flopc bet and float the turn every single time. Is this line decent? I have tons of equity and push villain's out of his equity there.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 179.94 BB
SB: 110.02 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 73.84 BB
MP: 88.74 BB
CO: 148.22 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, BTN calls 6.7 BB

Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) 6 Q Q
Hero bets 5.82 BB, BTN calls 5.82 BB

Turn: (30.14 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN bets 15.76 BB, Hero raises to 85.18 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 69.42 BB

River: (200.5 BB, 2 players) J
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (200.5 BB, 2 players) 9

Spoiler:
Hero shows A J (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
Board #1 (Pre 31%, Flop 5%, Turn 18%)
(One Pair, Queens)
Board #2 (Pre 26%, Flop 5%, Turn 19%)

BTN shows A Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)
Board #1 (Pre 69%, Flop 95%, Turn 82%)
(Three of a Kind, Queens)
Board #2 (Pre 74%, Flop 95%, Turn 81%)

BTN wins 98.26 BB
BTN wins 98.24 BB


H4: I know min-3-bets OTF are quite strong, but some villains are capable of going nuts in the raising war, as played was it fine? Had so many outs and if villain is bet-folding some stuff there it's +EV, right? How else should I play this?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 77.74 BB
SB: 199.32 BB
BB: 107.86 BB
Hero (UTG): 113 BB
MP: 199.08 BB
CO: 141.14 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.14 BB, 2 players) 9 9 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, BTN raises to 23 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

Turn: (52.14 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN bets 22 BB, Hero raises to 87.68 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 30.42 BB and is all-in

River: (156.98 BB, 2 players) 3

Spoiler:
Hero shows K J (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 66%, Flop 25%, Turn 0%)
BTN shows 9 T (Full House, Nines full of Tens)
(Pre 34%, Flop 75%, Turn 100%)
BTN wins 152.98 BB


H5: vs overbluffing reg, decided to fold because I block a ton of his bluffs, good? I think people snap me off in spots like these all the time with **** blockers, they're usually doing it right, but I'm trying to at least choose decent blockers when making huge calls like this. Villain still has all his sets, since he always slowplays them in 3-bet pots. Good check-fold even vs overbluffing reg?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 177.24 BB
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 148.98 BB
UTG: 97.44 BB
MP: 110.64 BB
CO: 130.34 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.42 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, CO calls 7.58 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 2 3 9
Hero bets 6.6 BB, CO calls 6.6 BB

Turn: (34.2 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, CO bets 11.04 BB, Hero calls 11.04 BB

River: (56.28 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, CO bets 102.7 BB and is all-in, fold

CO wins 53.46 BB


H6: vs villain that was calling 3-bets OOP with AA, so it's likely that the top of his range there is AK only, he also had super aggro stats, looked like an aggro fish. Vs that guy, is it good to just jam pre or call? Should I jam the river for value?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 276.48 BB
SB: 118.68 BB
BB: 247.64 BB
UTG: 116.9 BB
MP: 239.34 BB
Hero (CO): 104.12 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP raises to 20 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

Flop: (41.5 BB, 2 players) 7 7 8
MP bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (65.5 BB, 2 players) Q
MP bets 19 BB, Hero calls 19 BB

River: (103.5 BB, 2 players) 5
MP checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:
MP shows Q 9 (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
(Pre 30%, Flop 18%, Turn 10%)
Hero shows A Q (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
(Pre 70%, Flop 82%, Turn 90%)
Hero wins 99.5 BB
02-17-2018 , 11:39 AM
hand 1 - villain has 'reasonable 3bet', CO vs UTG isn't going to be that wide, will he 3 barrel A2/A3/A5s? other Ax?

hand 2 - would check turn

hand 3 - seems ok to me, interesting flop bet - with back door fd only or..? cos we will have all AJo combos as well I assume

hand4 - easy one imo, keep pot small until we hit vs fish

hand 5 - dunno, your reasoning sounds good tho

h6 - nice read, yes I'd call pre IP, jam river makes sense all things considered
02-18-2018 , 02:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomj
hand 1 - villain has 'reasonable 3bet', CO vs UTG isn't going to be that wide, will he 3 barrel A2/A3/A5s? other Ax?

hand 2 - would check turn

hand 3 - seems ok to me, interesting flop bet - with back door fd only or..? cos we will have all AJo combos as well I assume

hand4 - easy one imo, keep pot small until we hit vs fish

hand 5 - dunno, your reasoning sounds good tho

h6 - nice read, yes I'd call pre IP, jam river makes sense all things considered
why checking turn on H2? don't you think villains bet their Q most of the time? Or do you think people get afraid of valuebetting because they think we could have slowplayed AA/KK?


btw, played a quite boring session today, so many nits, probably broke even

Some hands

H1: vs normal reg and king of nits, sooooo sad to have to fold this, the As blocker makes it a super obvious fold, but even without it I think it's a clear fold vs that guy.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 105.42 BB
SB: 52.1 BB
BB: 83.52 BB
UTG: 91.66 BB
MP: 140.08 BB
CO: 154.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 10 BB, CO calls 10 BB

Flop: (40.5 BB, 3 players) 2 6 4
MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets 12.74 BB, MP calls 12.74 BB, CO raises to 50 BB, fold, fold

CO wins 74.78 BB


H2: pure ownage vs reg that was 3-betting me lighter than he should, OTR I should check with all my range, right? On a 9 river leading would have been better, right?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 113.34 BB
Hero (SB): 103.5 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 177.26 BB
MP: 34.52 BB
CO: 62.52 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q T

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (20 BB, 2 players) 7 J K
Hero checks, BB bets 7.98 BB, Hero calls 7.98 BB

Turn: (35.96 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BB checks

River: (35.96 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BB bets 27.32 BB, Hero raises to 85.52 BB and is all-in, BB calls 54.7 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows Q T (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 43%, Flop 33%, Turn 18%)
BB shows 3 K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 57%, Flop 67%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins 196 BB



H3: vs whale, such a sick river bluff by him lol. Would be in a tough spot with overpairs, is it a call or a fold with AA there?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 245.02 BB
SB: 107.66 BB
BB: 106.08 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 59.62 BB
CO: 186.94 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (7.46 BB, 3 players) 7 5 4
BB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB, fold

Turn: (17.46 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 27.44 BB, BB calls 21.44 BB

River: (72.34 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 71.32 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 65.24 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
BB shows Q 8 (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 49%, Flop 15%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows 5 5 (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 51%, Flop 85%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 198.82 BB



H4: this is a very simple spot and really common, but I think I'm burning money with moves like that vs unknowns. I was bluffing most turns but an A/K/Q, since villain was x/c with a ton of AK/AQ/KQ, and they're more likely to bet their small overpairs. What should I do in spots like that? I get really lost, checking to sd is like really bad, right? Unknowns are so hard to play against =(

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 182.9 BB
SB: 100.5 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 105.38 BB
MP: 106.64 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, SB raises to 7.96 BB, fold, Hero calls 5.64 BB

Flop: (16.92 BB, 2 players) T T 8
SB checks, Hero bets 8.36 BB, SB calls 8.36 BB

Turn: (33.64 BB, 2 players) K
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (33.64 BB, 2 players) Q
SB bets 16 BB, fold

SB wins 31.96 BB


H5: vs whale, lol! It's ok to just jam vs people who are calling super light there? People usually hit the flop only around 33% of the time, even if he had donk-jammed I need only 33% equity to call. So by jamming with FE it's a really good +ev move, right? Any other option? Shoving pre wasn't an option ever, RFI was a huge nit.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 100.5 BB
BB: 74.78 BB
UTG: 200.44 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 80.26 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO raises to 10.5 BB, Hero raises to 25 BB, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 14.5 BB

Flop: (54.5 BB, 2 players) 5 6 T
CO checks, Hero bets 75 BB and is all-in, CO calls 55.26 BB and is all-in

Turn: (165.02 BB, 2 players) T

River: (165.02 BB, 2 players) 9
Players agreed to run it twice.

Turn #2: (165.02 BB, 2 players) 3

River #2: (165.02 BB, 2 players) J

Spoiler:
CO shows 7 5 (Two Pair, Tens and Fives)
Board #1 (Pre 36%, Flop 75%, Turn 80%)
(One Pair, Fives)
Board #2 (Pre 37%, Flop 75%, Turn 86%)

Hero shows A K (One Pair, Tens)
Board #1 (Pre 64%, Flop 25%, Turn 20%)
(High Card, Ace)
Board #2 (Pre 63%, Flop 25%, Turn 14%)

CO wins 80.52 BB
CO wins 80.5 BB
02-18-2018 , 03:09 AM
Regarding previous post.

H3 is awful. Think about what range you play like that, and what he folds. I would xc flop and turn.

H4. What do you think a fish with his last 77bb is 3beting you on that flop? Awful.

H5. You cbet 1/3 and then check against an aggro reg? Just asking to get owned really. I would bet again. As played call him down his line looks so bluffy. He bets small on turn then overbet jams river. You put him on a set, and think hes betting turn 1/3 with a set on that board? You said hes over bluffing so perfect spot to call down imo.
02-18-2018 , 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
Regarding previous post.

H3 is awful. Think about what range you play like that, and what he folds. I would xc flop and turn.

H4. What do you think a fish with his last 77bb is 3beting you on that flop? Awful.

H5. You cbet 1/3 and then check against an aggro reg? Just asking to get owned really. I would bet again. As played call him down his line looks so bluffy. He bets small on turn then overbet jams river. You put him on a set, and think hes betting turn 1/3 with a set on that board? You said hes over bluffing so perfect spot to call down imo.
On H5, isn't it better to check vs aggro players and let them bluff? OTR I could explo call, but blockers were close to the nut worst, I prefer picking at least some reasonable blockers, like AT, also it's not like the guy is going super nuts all the time, specially since I've called him down lightly sometimes.
02-18-2018 , 04:37 PM
Meanwhile in sickland...

H1: Vs same guy I've folded AA in a 3-bet pot. Is it ok to just call the river? Thought that he could have straights for that sizing OTR. So annoying, having to make the sickest folds ever, all my semibluffs get snapped by 2-pair+

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 193.28 BB
SB: 121.78 BB
Hero (BB): 101.5 BB
UTG: 92.46 BB
MP: 112.86 BB
CO: 101.62 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T Q

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 4 players) 3 2 4
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets 4 BB, fold, SB raises to 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB, fold

Turn: (44 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (44 BB, 2 players) T
SB bets 13.8 BB, Hero raises to 36 BB, SB raises to 104.78 BB and is all-in, fold

SB wins 112 BB

H2: vs whale, so annoying

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 183.32 BB
SB: 89.38 BB
Hero (BB): 122.14 BB
UTG: 117.06 BB
MP: 93.5 BB
CO: 133.68 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 7 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 5 2 2
SB bets 80.38 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 80.38 BB

Turn: (178.76 BB, 2 players) 3

River: (178.76 BB, 2 players) 7

Spoiler:
SB shows 5 5 (Full House, Fives full of Twos)
(Pre 20%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Twos)
(Pre 80%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 174.76 BB
02-18-2018 , 09:59 PM
Got a really cool one here, guys haha



Hand was played poorly by me, but the guy was range cbetting in a board he shouldn't, so went a little nuts with my bluffs lol. His river check-muck was super funny though!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 105.7 BB
UTG: 414.84 BB
MP: 146.48 BB
CO: 103.78 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (5.3 BB, 2 players) Q 3 J
Hero checks, BTN bets 1.72 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, BTN calls 4.28 BB

Turn: (17.3 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 12.34 BB, BTN calls 12.34 BB

River: (41.98 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows 2 9 (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 28%, Flop 16%, Turn 5%)
BTN mucks A 9 (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 72%, Flop 84%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 39.88 BB
02-18-2018 , 11:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
On H5, isn't it better to check vs aggro players and let them bluff? OTR I could explo call, but blockers were close to the nut worst, I prefer picking at least some reasonable blockers, like AT, also it's not like the guy is going super nuts all the time, specially since I've called him down lightly sometimes.
Blockers are overrated your line was burning money imo.
02-19-2018 , 12:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
Blockers are overrated your line was burning money imo.
They're overrated, but I could be wrong in my assumption that the guy was overbluffing a ton. He could be slightly overbluffing or even underbluffing in that spot. Just as an example, even though I overbluff on average, there are lines that I take that I'm almost never bluffing. So I prefer using poker theory in those spots, and 88 is a clear fold there.

33% then going for a shove with an overbet is a really strong move, few people in the pool are capable of bluffing with that line.
02-19-2018 , 01:02 AM
Played a good amount of poker today! Games were fun.

Going to start taking some classes at night, meh, it will probably affect how much I play/study poker. I'll probably end up playing less, but there's a chance that I'll start playing more, it depends if I'm capable of following a routine and waking up early. I have so much trouble following routines, also hate sunlight, specially in the morning. Let's see what will happen, I think there's a <10% chance that I'll end up playing more. Will keep doing my best ofc, maybe poker helps me to motivate myself into doing better on that area.


Some hands

H1: When the 8 hit the turn, I already knew he had some slowplaying going on, was so happy, but there's no justice in this world. Slowplaying like that to induce bluffs + run it once is soooo annoying, didn't deserve it at all.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 264.76 BB
SB: 101.5 BB
BB: 221.1 BB
UTG: 42.92 BB
Hero (MP): 101.5 BB
CO: 205.02 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, CO raises to 9.64 BB, BTN calls 9.64 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 7.32 BB

Flop: (30.42 BB, 3 players) K 5 A
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: (30.42 BB, 3 players) 8
Hero bets 21.68 BB, CO raises to 195.38 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 70.18 BB and is all-in

River: (214.14 BB, 2 players) K

Spoiler:
Hero shows 8 8 (Full House, Eights full of Kings)
(Pre 55%, Flop 8%, Turn 91%)
CO shows K A (Full House, Kings full of Aces)
(Pre 45%, Flop 92%, Turn 9%)
CO wins 210.14 BB


H2: vs weaktight fish, good OTR?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 366.02 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 160.92 BB
UTG: 102.72 BB
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 153.56 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J Q

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, CO calls 2.32 BB, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (8.46 BB, 3 players) 4 K 8
Hero bets 2.66 BB, CO calls 2.66 BB, fold

Turn: (13.78 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 9.82 BB, CO calls 9.82 BB

River: (33.42 BB, 2 players) A
Hero bets 20.94 BB, fold

Hero wins 31.74 BB


H3: ok call vs unknown? He could be valuebetting 2-pairs, right?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 161.98 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 28.4 BB
UTG: 100 BB
Hero (MP): 125.3 BB
CO: 150.34 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (7.46 BB, 3 players) 9 T 6
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (7.46 BB, 3 players) 5
BB checks, Hero bets 5.32 BB, BTN calls 5.32 BB, fold

River: (18.1 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 12.9 BB, BTN raises to 40 BB, Hero calls 27.1 BB

Spoiler:
BTN shows K J (Straight, King High)
(Pre 47%, Flop 43%, Turn 9%)
Hero mucks 5 5 (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 53%, Flop 57%, Turn 91%)
BTN wins 94.1 BB


H4: vs passive player, was surprised OTR, couldn't believe he could semibluff lol. Good calls? OTR I thought he could be valuebetting worse Jx.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 91 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 122.12 BB
UTG: 158.2 BB
MP: 199.66 BB
CO: 303.76 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J T

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 3 6 T
Hero bets 4.28 BB, BB calls 4.28 BB

Turn: (14.56 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 10.38 BB, BB raises to 24.5 BB, Hero calls 14.12 BB

River: (63.56 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BB bets 42.26 BB, Hero calls 42.26 BB

Spoiler:
BB shows 4 5 (Straight, Six High)
(Pre 36%, Flop 37%, Turn 18%)
Hero mucks J T (Three of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 64%, Flop 63%, Turn 82%)
BB wins 144.08 BB


H5: vs unknown that was shaping to be a whale, had a note on him from PT4 that he 3-bets K9o, good call OTR? His line is so weird, min-raises usually are very strong, but cbet and check-minraise is just weird. OTR went with my read that if he were 3-betting so much, he could end up spewing with random stuff, also FD missed OTR

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 206.38 BB
BB: 278.46 BB
UTG: 131.62 BB
MP: 175.78 BB
CO: 122.88 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB raises to 6.64 BB, Hero calls 4.32 BB

Flop: (13.78 BB, 2 players) 6 J 5
BB bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (27.78 BB, 2 players) T
BB checks, Hero bets 13.72 BB, BB raises to 28.44 BB, Hero calls 14.72 BB

River: (84.66 BB, 2 players) 8
BB bets 60 BB, Hero calls 57.92 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
BB shows 7 9 (Straight, Jack High)
(Pre 40%, Flop 19%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows K J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 60%, Flop 81%, Turn 91%)
BB wins 196.5 BB


H6: vs guy that was 3-betting me quite wide, I 4-bet some Kxs rather than some Axo, is it ok?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 101.18 BB
SB: 55.56 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 97.06 BB
MP: 175.76 BB
CO: 177.64 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 4

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, BB calls 14 BB

Flop: (48.5 BB, 2 players) K 4 5
BB checks, Hero bets 15.26 BB, BB calls 15.26 BB

Turn: (79.02 BB, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero bets 61.92 BB and is all-in, BB calls 60.74 BB and is all-in

River: (200.5 BB, 2 players) J
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (200.5 BB, 2 players) 3

Spoiler:
BB shows K Q (One Pair, Kings)
Board #1 (Pre 71%, Flop 31%, Turn 39%)
(One Pair, Kings)
Board #2 (Pre 70%, Flop 32%, Turn 40%)

Hero shows K 4 (Two Pair, Kings and Fours)
Board #1 (Pre 29%, Flop 69%, Turn 61%)
(Two Pair, Kings and Fours)
Board #2 (Pre 30%, Flop 69%, Turn 60%)

Hero wins 98.26 BB
Hero wins 98.24 BB



H7: ok bluff OTT? So many outs, price on the bluff is so good too

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 134.52 BB
SB: 209.84 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 125.58 BB
MP: 112.9 BB
CO: 253.74 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, MP raises to 29 BB, CO calls 26.5 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

Flop: (87.5 BB, 3 players) 8 J 6
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: (87.5 BB, 3 players) T
Hero bets 71 BB and is all-in, fold, CO calls 71 BB

River: (229.5 BB, 2 players) 4

Spoiler:
Hero shows A Q (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 43%, Flop 24%, Turn 18%)
CO shows T T (Three of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 57%, Flop 76%, Turn 82%)
CO wins 225.5 BB
02-19-2018 , 01:07 AM
His bet sizes make no sense though at all in terms of value other than A4s. I don't think it would be a bad call, regs are so out if line these days.
02-19-2018 , 04:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Got a really cool one here, guys haha



Hand was played poorly by me, but the guy was range cbetting in a board he shouldn't, so went a little nuts with my bluffs lol. His river check-muck was super funny though!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 105.7 BB
UTG: 414.84 BB
MP: 146.48 BB
CO: 103.78 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (5.3 BB, 2 players) Q 3 J
Hero checks, BTN bets 1.72 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, BTN calls 4.28 BB

Turn: (17.3 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 12.34 BB, BTN calls 12.34 BB

River: (41.98 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows 2 9 (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 28%, Flop 16%, Turn 5%)
BTN mucks A 9 (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 72%, Flop 84%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 39.88 BB
What is this???
02-19-2018 , 04:37 AM
lmao

Spoiler:
you're starting to make me look bad as a coach when you post hands like that man
02-19-2018 , 10:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
lmao

Spoiler:
you're starting to make me look bad as a coach when you post hands like that man
sorry man, it was really bad specially since we've discussed about that spot in the coaching session.

But everyone makes mistakes, it's hard to play a ton of hands without making minor mistakes, execution is hard. I'm still sometimes making the calling mistakes on the SB when I'm not super focused, old habits die hard.

But overall I'm avoiding these bad plays a ton, playing really solid overall

One thing I always post is the crappy hands I play here, some guys just post hands that make them look good, I've always posted the hands I played like garbage. I like doing that, those hands are way more important than std stuff and things we're not making mistakes.
02-19-2018 , 10:58 AM
First 5 mins of the session and I play a hand like this

jesus, people are so scared of getting check-raised OTR vs me LOL!!! This guy was 100% sure he wouldn't bet-fold ever there and decided to make this awesome play lol!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 209.2 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 101.5 BB
MP: 314.96 BB
CO: 118.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5

fold, MP raises to 2.36 BB, CO calls 2.36 BB, BTN calls 2.36 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.36 BB

Flop: (9.94 BB, 4 players) 4 5 4
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: (9.94 BB, 4 players) 7
Hero bets 7.08 BB, MP calls 7.08 BB, fold, fold

River: (24.1 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, MP checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows 5 5 (Full House, Fives full of Fours)
(Pre 52%, Flop 99%, Turn 100%)
MP mucks 8 A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 48%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 22.9 BB
02-19-2018 , 11:49 AM
Do you think it’d be fair to say you place too much emphasis on making ‘sick plays’ and massively exploitative plays in such low frequency spots rather than having a solid foundation and overall strategy? Some of these hands just seem like giant spew combined with confirmation bias, like the 92s hand. Even if your opponent is making giant mistakes, making a giant +1 mistake to exploit it just seems bad imo.
02-19-2018 , 12:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wj294
Do you think it’d be fair to say you place too much emphasis on making ‘sick plays’ and massively exploitative plays in such low frequency spots rather than having a solid foundation and overall strategy? Some of these hands just seem like giant spew combined with confirmation bias, like the 92s hand. Even if your opponent is making giant mistakes, making a giant +1 mistake to exploit it just seems bad imo.
what spot you're talking about?
I've already told 92s was bad, sometimes it's hard to avoid making bad moves, everyone does them. Yesterday saw in MMAsherdog's stream one 500z hand from a reg that made that 92s hand look like a really good move lol.
02-19-2018 , 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Hand was played poorly by me, but the guy was range cbetting in a board he shouldn't, so went a little nuts with my bluffs lol. His river check-muck was super funny though!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 105.7 BB
UTG: 414.84 BB
MP: 146.48 BB
CO: 103.78 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (5.3 BB, 2 players) Q 3 J
Hero checks, BTN bets 1.72 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, BTN calls 4.28 BB

Turn: (17.3 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 12.34 BB, BTN calls 12.34 BB

River: (41.98 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows 2 9 (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 28%, Flop 16%, Turn 5%)
BTN mucks A 9 (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 72%, Flop 84%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 39.88 BB
What makes you think he shouldn't be range betting this board?

      
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