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01-30-2017 , 09:37 PM
100NL? You said you couldn't beat 50NL? :O
01-30-2017 , 10:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clanty
100NL? You said you couldn't beat 50NL? :O
After looking at the database, I found out that I lost a lot by playing deep, so by playing with 100bbs I think I can win, if I had played only with 100-150bbs, my graph would look like this(+$600 rakeback)



also maybe it's possible to have a better winrate at NL100 than on NL50 because of the dramatic reduce in rakeback.

and also, even if I can't beat NL50 neither NL100, I'll take shots in those stakes.

I'll have to figure it out.
01-31-2017 , 08:19 PM
lol, I was sure Kx would call

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 114.8 BB
SB: 113.24 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 90)
BB: 134.08 BB (VPIP: 23.46, PFR: 19.36, 3Bet Preflop: 10.06, Hands: 449)
UTG: 364.24 BB (VPIP: 27.01, PFR: 21.72, 3Bet Preflop: 11.56, Hands: 563)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.05, PFR: 10.34, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 92)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.26, PFR: 17.76, 3Bet Preflop: 6.22, Hands: 487)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 9.4 BB, Hero calls 6.4 BB

Flop: (19.2 BB, 2 players) 9 T K
BB checks, Hero bets 9.88 BB, BB calls 9.88 BB

Turn: (38.96 BB, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero bets 20.08 BB, BB calls 20.08 BB

River: (79.12 BB, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero bets 75.44 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 75.56 BB
01-31-2017 , 08:36 PM
GL
01-31-2017 , 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avizura
GL
TY, I'll need it for sure at the beginning, but I think I can adapt to NL100, it can't be too different from NL25
01-31-2017 , 10:26 PM
GL! nice gainz
02-04-2017 , 04:48 AM
this is inspiring ngl, im going through a rough time atm at 16/25z, and this is very motivating to see that someone can just abuse the pool this hard with such ease. definitely need to work on my game. GL OP, sub'd.
02-04-2017 , 08:56 AM
pretty bad flop stab with 77, esp without 7 of clubs
02-04-2017 , 09:13 AM
You seem to play really bad and get super lucky. In terms of EV and cards o barrel.
02-04-2017 , 11:42 AM
to be fair he probably overbluffs a ton but it works well vs the pool
02-05-2017 , 02:07 PM
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 109.48 BB (VPIP: 22.45, PFR: 17.68, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 790)
Hero (SB): 146.96 BB
BB: 146.36 BB (VPIP: 11.51, PFR: 8.37, 3Bet Preflop: 4.81, Hands: 258)
UTG: 119.76 BB (VPIP: 9.38, PFR: 9.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
MP: 147.44 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
CO: 50.84 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J T

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.48 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, BTN calls 5.52 BB

Flop: (17 BB, 2 players) A 2 9
Hero bets 8.76 BB, BTN calls 8.76 BB

Turn: (34.52 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 17.76 BB, BTN calls 17.76 BB

River: (70.04 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 112.44 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 66.88 BB
02-05-2017 , 02:08 PM
back to NL25, keep getting destroyed at NL50
02-05-2017 , 02:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheltNAM
You seem to play really bad and get super lucky. In terms of EV and cards o barrel.
yeah, getting super lucky, so lucky that I'm losing with KK on NL50
5x KK x AA in 20k hands, + a lot of sets, people flopping flushes OTF

Overall lucky bell is unlucky for sets, flushes and straights.
what can I do if Villain flops a set in a 3-bet pot? If when I'm barrelling the turn and OTR villains completes his flush while we're both commited?

Luckly I'm doing well on EV, but saying that I'm a 9bb/100 loser and that it's normal to be losing with KK is ******ed

KK on NL50



month so far

02-05-2017 , 03:05 PM
Ignore Chelt, he's just a sour guy.

Seen you at 50 OP. GLGL.
02-05-2017 , 03:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clanty
Ignore Chelt, he's just a sour guy.

Seen you at 50 OP. GLGL.
thanks

I'll stick to NL25 for a while, try to grind it out to $2k, losing $700 in a day was really tough. Also I saw that my game had a lot of flaws, specially vs NL50 regs.

Most nl25 regs are bad and keep calling you down with crap, while on NL50, I can't expect to triple barrel TPTK and get calls from worse vs a good reg

I think I'll make sure my game is fine before I move up, of course I'll still play 4-tables during the "dark hour" of NL25, but will have some sessions where I'll think more and try to squeeze the maximum value off each hand.

if I'm fine with my game by the time I reach 2k dollars, then I'll open 2-tables at NL100 and play with the assistance of my apprentice. I taught him how to play poker, he is really good, although he stopped playing(he was a NL25/NL50 reg when he stopped). But I think it's good to have someone with you to help with reasoning, feel more confident, don't tilt.

My strategy when I moved up was to play as crazy as I could, by distorting people's HUD, showing myself as a 40/30/20 donk, but when I started playing NL25/NL50 people started calling me down a lot. Recently I made a huge calldown vs someone like that, I saw why it's bad to do it vs better players.

maybe playing tighter is better, right? So I can find more info about villains?
what should I do when I move to higher stakes and have no info on players?

what really crippled mt was the amount of regfish that wouldn't fold on these stakes, making my strategy really bad. Also by having 0 hands on people, I ended up bluffing fish without knowing it.
02-05-2017 , 03:56 PM
Chelt is probably just making assumptions about you as a player from the hands you upload (Some of em are played a bit weirdly).

I don't really know why your losing deep, probably because you're getting punished for overbluffing. Deep is super super profitable at 25z and 50z alot of the regs are crap at it and the fish almost want to give you their money with crappy hands.

Your winrate would be so much higher if you didn't bluff so much tho.
02-05-2017 , 03:57 PM
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But I think it's good to have someone with you to help with reasoning, feel more confident, don't tilt.
wish i could do the same i end up handing out stacks tilting hard closing Skype and cry myself to sleep when doing sweat sessions

gl gl
02-05-2017 , 04:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mahsjdi
Chelt is probably just making assumptions about you as a player from the hands you upload (Some of em are played a bit weirdly).

I don't really know why your losing deep, probably because you're getting punished for overbluffing. Deep is super super profitable at 25z and 50z alot of the regs are crap at it and the fish almost want to give you their money with crappy hands.

Your winrate would be so much higher if you didn't bluff so much tho.
Yeah, I stopped bluffing for a while, throwing some bluffs from time to time vs regs

And yeah, deep stack poker is awesome vs fish and bad regs, but I stopped because I was tilting a lot, losing stacks like crazy. Also I think I'm a fish compared to the better regs.
On top of that, it reduces variance, which is good.
02-05-2017 , 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MR McDonald
wish i could do the same i end up handing out stacks tilting hard closing Skype and cry myself to sleep when doing sweat sessions

gl gl
lol
02-05-2017 , 04:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MR McDonald
wish i could do the same i end up handing out stacks tilting hard closing Skype and cry myself to sleep when doing sweat sessions

gl gl
sorry for bringing you the run bad, was trying to steal some of your heat
02-05-2017 , 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5890
sorry for bringing you the run bad, was trying to steal some of your heat
02-05-2017 , 05:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MR McDonald
cry myself to sleep when doing sweat sessions

gl gl
Sleep well bro
02-05-2017 , 06:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clanty
Sleep well bro
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD night everybody

GG

Last edited by MR McDonald; 02-05-2017 at 06:26 PM. Reason: soz for the derail of the thread XD
02-05-2017 , 07:39 PM
I'm referring to hands you've posted such as ripping 73o pre. If you have 73o in any preflop bluffing range you will get annihilated at 50 and above which is what's happening, I'm not bitter just trying to explain why you aren't beating the game as you play higher. Fwiw I doubt you'll do better at 100 than 50 and probably worse as people get stats faster and adjust more.
02-05-2017 , 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheltNAM
I'm referring to hands you've posted such as ripping 73o pre. If you have 73o in any preflop bluffing range you will get annihilated at 50 and above which is what's happening, I'm not bitter just trying to explain why you aren't beating the game as you play higher. Fwiw I doubt you'll do better at 100 than 50 and probably worse as people get stats faster and adjust more.
I was tilted during the 73o hand, but sometimes it's good to 3-bet with anything vs an opponent who is opening 60% from the btn and folding 80%, and in a huge pool like NL25, you're not likely to see him again in the nest 20 mins in the same spot, so it's fine to rob him some cents from time to time.

      
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