yeah h1 is a problem play, these micro stakes pigs aren't bluffing Ahi boards, bluffing pair into uncapped range is not something you see at nl50
fwiw rapi i'd just say that if you filtered my dbase for the last week there would be some very bad plays, but never this level of spew from one session. Just stop overcomplicating things, key to small stakes is play solid, wait for the uber donations (like people QJs you ). Maybe it would be good for a while to just stop and pause any time you find yourself taking an unusual line and ask 'could this be spew?'.
some of these hands are -20bb in absolute EV I'd say, and this kind of mistake just destroys all of your other good play.
Last edited by PlasticElephant; 09-08-2019 at 10:23 AM.
I don't understand how you can fold bottom set ott but can't find a fold w/middle pair otr in a 3bet pot. everything plasticelephant and others have said is spot on. I like the fold with 22 fwiw
I don't understand how you can fold bottom set ott but can't find a fold w/middle pair otr in a 3bet pot. everything plasticelephant and others have said is spot on. I like the fold with 22 fwiw
Because he has 0 bluffs on 22 and I could see some straight draws ott on H1. I was calling JQ and folding A9/A8/A6, thought it was a better bluffcatcher.
In spots I have 0 clue on if people overbluff or not I just try to play a strat with enough calls and folds so I don't get owned either way
@plasticelephant, thx, will start folding in this spot vs population from now on
Today I've decided to be a little bit more cautious with my game, also I will avoid playing 100z. My judgment can't be trusted while I'm tilting, I manage to take lines that are unbelievable, like it would be really hard to make hands more -EV even if I tried lol.
So I've decided that I will go back to my solid strat and limit my exploits a lot for a while, the good thing is that I managed to play 3 tables and it was quite easy, I overthink spots way less this way. I haven't posted this here before, but at the beginning of the year I set restrictions over my plays, was playing my std pio-based strat vs everyone, then started adding more bullshit plays little by little.
I still think going very wild is still good, but I got owned so badly that my mental game is just not the best, so I won't be as greedy until I regain my confidence back.
This is the hand that made me realize my judgement was terrible lol, he snap called on all streets
H1: Vs guy that was shaping to be nitty, OTR I think it's somewhat thin even though I'm not supposed to have this hand in my range, specially if he has a folding range, but if he is calling all bluffcatchers, then it's owning him a lot. Also maybe he is the type of person who cbets KQ always and checks KT/KJ always, so then it's printing.
H3: I don't like this one, because a little bit later I've made the math on his combos and he actually could have 2 KJ combos for 3 JJ and 3 KK, so even if he has 0 bluffs I have a 0EV call. It gets worse if he minraises OTT with KK(and I think this guy is probably ******ed enough to do lol), I don't think he could have 88 neither, so yeah, bad fold(but not as bad as it looks).
with 44 you prob want to polarize a lot against a flop check back and just try to fold out hands like QQ TT 99 by potting turn and jamming river with your bluffs, and do the same thing with AK+ for value
A4s and K4o are spewy calls river that turned out well unless you you're playing some overaggro spewtards
QTo I don't think you want to c-bet this flop with range for 1/4 pot, should mix in a bunch of check backs with almost all hands given it smashes BB range, turn you probably want to check behind more often than bet on a 2 but can occasionally fold out the K high flop floats, river you probably want to bluff when you get there this way with this hand but I don't think I would go this big just a normal overbet works fine there to fold out A high and some 3x and 4x
Glad you've decided to take some of the advice here, good luck
Yeah I had stopped reading the thread for ~6 months because it was boring and the hands were all pretty WP. Clicked randomly one day expecting to see OP at 200z. Then every hand just like some omegalul clownfiesta and clearly poker not dead if OP winning at 50z.
with 44 you prob want to polarize a lot against a flop check back and just try to fold out hands like QQ TT 99 by potting turn and jamming river with your bluffs, and do the same thing with AK+ for value
A4s and K4o are spewy calls river that turned out well unless you you're playing some overaggro spewtards
QTo I don't think you want to c-bet this flop with range for 1/4 pot, should mix in a bunch of check backs with almost all hands given it smashes BB range, turn you probably want to check behind more often than bet on a 2 but can occasionally fold out the K high flop floats, river you probably want to bluff when you get there this way with this hand but I don't think I would go this big just a normal overbet works fine there to fold out A high and some 3x and 4x
In the 44 hand I agree that overbetting/shipping the river is the best way to go in theory. But when I know villain overbluffs the flop and has a very obvious x back range (midpairs + KK and TPWK with no air) and won't fold ever vs normal sizings, then I prefer to go smaller and always get called by his bluffcatchers rather than overbet and let him fold.
Obv I would never do that vs thinking opponents, but villain was a bad player. I always think that I should overbet/ship, but then remember of that tendency some people have.
A4s was vs a whale, K4 was vs a reg that opens too much and my guess was that he bluffed the turn more than he should and also that when he gets to this river with a bluff candidate he will just fire again(and was right, he probably was bluffing more than 70%).
I haven't studied that specific board yet, thanks for your advice, I always get lost between x back or range cbet in those (on 237 it's always range and 546 bets and x backs).
3-tabling has been so weird, but overall I think that I'm not playing as badly as I thought. I think my spew increased a lot, also I'm making more cognitive mistakes(like misreading the board/action), but I'm overthinking less too, avoided some bad plays that I would have made if I were 2 tabling.
Also it's more enjoyable and the volume is insane lol. I think I'm capable of putting lots of volume now! vaaaamo!
Some hands
H1: this one was terrible, not because of my play in a vacuum(or in theory), but because after I shipped this I read his note and it was something like "BIG = BLUFF" lol. I knew this guy was calling right after I read it, I was actually surprised he tanked until the last second -.-
Nobody could butcher this hand more than I did, I think my fold equity was actually higher if I went for a 75% sizing.
River:(30.22 BB, 2 players) 7 Hero bets 94 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 94 BB
Spoiler:
Hero shows K A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 74%, Flop 44%, Turn 28%) BTN shows J A (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 26%, Flop 56%, Turn 72%) BTN wins 214.22 BB
H2: vs reg that is trappy and I think isn't bluffing enough. I was running out of time(another bad thing about 3-tabling btw) and he made insane give ups before in the session and played insanely passive on a lot of spots, so took that more into account.
UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, UTG calls 10.5 BB
Flop:(29 BB, 2 players) J 3 7 Hero checks, fold
Hero wins 27.56 BB
H6: I just wanted to fold OTT vs this guy, decided to call because he could have A4/K4/Q4, OTR he has 2 47 combos, 3 77, 6 Q4 combos = 11 and 16 combos I beat(K4/A4), so can't fold. Vs an insanely nitty opponent I think it's better to just fold OTT, but didn't have enough evidence vs this guy
Spewed a lot today, it's so hard maintaining a good mental game while putting more volume than I'm used to. I think sooner or later I will have to play 3 tables, the volume boost is just so good for the hourly, but atm I think I can be even -EV if I start tilting.
Lost a lot today, btw, so annoying to stay at these busto stakes for so long -.-
H2: I know I should check the turn in pio, but haven't found a good logic explo reason to do it vs population other than that they overfold OTT. But they also don't valuebet as thin as they should vs my checks.
H7: Bad combo in theory and terrible in practice, this is just the worst of all worlds lol. Now if villain is calling AA pre, then it gets even worse and I can't even have jams OTT ever if he is doing that
H10: vs reg, good fold? I know my hand is just a jam at a somewhat reasonable frequency(like 5%?), but I believe people just don't like folding fullhouses in these days lol
Feeling so bad, it sucks so much to be tilted and tired, really wanna play some more but can't do it with my state of mind now. Gonna play a lot tomorrow!
If you automatically dismiss h1 as bad without thinking, you will miss so many opportunities. Tbh it's a fine sizing scheme, I thought this guy had no calling range in there and I got owned by overbluffing vs him
If you automatically dismiss h1 as bad without thinking, you will miss so many opportunities. Tbh it's a fine sizing scheme, I thought this guy had no calling range in there and I got owned by overbluffing
Nothing wrong with the sizing scheme, but I’m not sure the hand selection could be any worse. So yes, I think it’s fine to dismiss this as bad.