Good luck with the quit man, make sure to eat/drink water/sleep if you feel like giving up. Do you notice you have more thoughts at the tables when you don't smoke? I feel like I pay attention to more details.
Lol. Some few competent regs. How dare they care about $ over dick swinging. I even hear some of them play other sites
Not firing shots, just saying the reality, zoom pools are tougher and it's easier to put volume on, so it's natural that people improve faster by playing zoom. Those guys who bumhunt are smart people and I respect their decision.
Good luck with the quit man, make sure to eat/drink water/sleep if you feel like giving up. Do you notice you have more thoughts at the tables when you don't smoke? I feel like I pay attention to more details.
During the first days I quit I felt way dumber, but after a while I feel I can think more clearly, maybe it's because I get more oxygen in my brain now.
Not firing shots, just saying the reality, zoom pools are tougher and it's easier to put volume on, so it's natural that people improve faster by playing zoom. Those guys who bumhunt are smart people and I respect their decision.
How quickly would you say you've improved playing Zoom?
I'm not afraid of reg table regs, imo those who choose reg tables over zoom do it because they can't beat zoom or aren't confident enough in their skills to play it.
Sure that some few competent regs opt for higher winrate and lower swings, but they are the minority. I always enjoyed zoom because it's democratic, there is no scripting/table selecting/ jesus seat.
The only thing that scares me is that stars is going through a lot of creative ideas to increase the rake/reduce skill/reduce edge of regs. I'm afraid in the future they will increase the rake even more. If rake goes up by 1bb/100 in the games I play it will become significantly harder to beat it.
Several months later: just as arrogant, still stuck at nl 50, speaker about faster Learning curve,and have a lot of opinions on why everyone is badregs. Only thing that could destroyes your game is rake.
LMAO
I would pretty happily give up poker skill to increase my WR. Think is an easy trade.
I'd also be willing to slow my improvement for it. Winrate is the most important thing.
No, it's not. It's winrate * volume, it's way harder to put volume on reg tables than it is on zoom. Also in the long run, if people improve and games become harder, then skill becomes exponentially more valuable.
Not saying people will improve, tbh after all this time playing I think poker will always be beatable as long as the games are legit. Just look at how much free content there is out there and a lot of people butcher hands in the worst ways possible, every time I see a doug polk video there is someone making an atrocious pre-flop play lol.
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Several months later: just as arrogant, still stuck at nl 50, speaker about faster Learning curve,and have a lot of opinions on why everyone is badregs. Only thing that could destroyes your game is rake.
LMAO
I'm not the fastest learner, but I had a lot of tilt to overcome and it's the most important thing when it comes to winning at poker. But on average people learn faster by playing zoom, ofc I'm the exception and took a lot of time to learn.
You guys underestimate rake so much, it's insane. I would rather have LinusLLove in every table I play instead of having to pay an extra 2bb/100 rake fwiw
Some hands
H1: it has been a while since I've done this play lol. I was restricting myself to not make plays like this, I like it on this texture, but the biggest issue is how big of a whale the other guy is, if he starts jamming vs my 5-bet, then it goes so badly for me lol
River:(77.26 BB, 2 players) 2 Hero checks, CO bets 67.12 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 67.12 BB
Spoiler:
CO shows T T (Two Pair, Tens and Eights)
(Pre 57%, Flop 77%, Turn 86%) Hero shows K A (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 43%, Flop 23%, Turn 14%) CO wins 207.5 BB
Vs people that overfold those are making money, vs people that defend enough my pf ranges take that into account.
The only possible way you could open that there is if BB is a massive nit, and if that's the case your flop 3bet is literally what you would do if your intention was to lose as much money in this hand as possible.
Rapi has such specific reads that he can open 100% because villain is folding too much bvb, and then he can 5b 0% equity hands because this same tight villain is now raise/4betting the flop with air often enough where 73o prints money.
I managed to put at least some volume, it was somewhat good since this was supposed to be a vacation month. I think that my volume will increase a lot now that I quit smoking, I won't be forced to have smoke breaks every 30-45 minutes, so I think I will end up playing more. Gotta force some breaks every 1h for mental health though.
H2: this looks so bad lol, but I believe I'm always beat in there, villain has 12-16 straight combos and his bluffs aren't as trivial to find, also I doubt this guy is using this sizing with his 2p/bluffs. It's quite easy for him to just raise smaller with his draws or just call them OTF because of this texture.
Flop:(5.14 BB, 2 players) A J K
BB checks, Hero bets 1.22 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, fold
BB wins 7.2 BB
H3: vs reg and whale, it feels so bad to see his hand here, what would you do? Tbh I first thought his play OTR was very bad because whenever I raised him over his call, he was toasted, so call/folding would be a better play because I can't have bluffs in this spot. But if I started raising AQ to deny chops he would get owned by folding his AQ.
Still not sure about this hand, obv villain's thought process didn't go that deep, it was probably something like
H5: never thought in a million years this nit would make this bluff, but he reps nothing and I think he has close to 0 value combos since he is never value shoving JJ in there. 18 vpip guy that I've seen making some very big overbets in very weird spots, they were probably bluffs.
River:(82.24 BB, 2 players) 7 Hero checks, BTN bets 41 BB, Hero raises to 73.42 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 32.42 BB
Spoiler:
Hero shows A K (Two Pair, Kings and Fours)
(Pre 43%, Flop 87%, Turn 95%) BTN shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Fours)
(Pre 57%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%) Hero wins 225.08 BB
H7: anyone going for the thin jam OTR? Board makes it look very scary for a jam, but after you think about villain's ranges and population tendencies it will be very very hard for him to have better. He snap called btw
hands 1, 2 and 3 have to be trolls. this has to all be a loooong troll. please. please just admit it. for my mental health, please tell me you're trolling
countdown to your "i've realized how terrible i was playing making these ridiculous overfolds vs whales, i'm going to start calling some hands again" post.
then more "this looks so bad but i like it" folds
Spoiler:
could you at least post before you jump in the pool so I can get my share of free $?
also how the **** is h7 thin value? are you telling me that this is the worst hand you value shove? lulz
What do you do all day? I don't even play full-time, don't have access to stars, and I played more hands over the weekend than you did in the entire month...
These hands are so bad jfc. I only made it through the first three before I had to stop reading for sake of sanity.
Try playing around in equilab re-learn how pot odds work...
Hand 1, 2 and 3 are essentially punts on a different level
H3 is definitely not a punt, H1 is probably a punt, H2 we will never know, I prefer to overfold and challenge my opponent to come up with overbluffs in this spot, so if he is actively exploiting me and raising total 0 equity hands vs me, then he is making some money. But on this texture only, this spot only, for a limited amount of hands until I see that he is an aggro whale and start adjusting.
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hands 1, 2 and 3 have to be trolls. this has to all be a loooong troll. please. please just admit it. for my mental health, please tell me you're trolling
countdown to your "i've realized how terrible i was playing making these ridiculous overfolds vs whales, i'm going to start calling some hands again" post.
then more "this looks so bad but i like it" folds
Spoiler:
could you at least post before you jump in the pool so I can get my share of free $?
also how the **** is h7 thin value? are you telling me that this is the worst hand you value shove? lulz
All the hands I post here are legit, I think there was only one hand I posted on 2p2 that was fake and I already outed it.
I think I raise Q9. Most people just nit it up and just call vs the raise. You make it look this as such a trivial ship, but gotta be paying attention and think to make plays like that, if I'm auto-piloting I think I just call in there.
You think you're so smart but you actually have 0 clue on how that spot works in theory, I'm actually supposed to bet-fold K9 in there around 33% of the time and villain isn't even supposed to be raising most of his K9 there, so shipping K9 would be quite "thin".
Villain's response vs my river bet
My response vs his raise
Actually K9 unblocking the flush is being used in there as a bluff 3-bet jam, btw lol(It's not even 3-betting flushes). Stacks are obv bigger and I made the ship a little bit bigger than in the actual hand(simmed again with smaller sizings and the ranges were the same), but this shows that your view of this spot is way off.
Obviously after you take into account how most people play, how unprotected villain's range is and how unprotected mine is too, then it becomes a trivial value jam, but I always base my standards in theory while you base yours on whatever the whales you play against stds are.
We played the hand the same, but our thought process was different, while you're thinking about how cool you are for 3-betting whatever 9x in there you have, I'm thinking about what villain and I are doing different to end up with such ****ed up ranges OTR and how can I exploit that or if it's actually worth some EV for me to play differently on earlier streets with other parts of my range to make more EV in these types of rivers.
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What do you do all day? I don't even play full-time, don't have access to stars, and I played more hands over the weekend than you did in the entire month...
These hands are so bad jfc. I only made it through the first three before I had to stop reading for sake of sanity.
Try playing around in equilab re-learn how pot odds work...
Just read the thread, all the answers are in the last few pages.
pot odds aren't relevant when villain has 0 bluffs
pot odds aren't relevant when villain has 0 bluffs
Do Hand 1 in equilab...how are you not getting odds to call? You think he just always has 76 there? What about 65? You call him passive but how do you know how he is playing say, QT in this spot and isn't that a call?
You think you're so smart but you actually have 0 clue on how that spot works in theory, I'm actually supposed to bet-fold K9 in there around 33% of the time and villain isn't even supposed to be raising most of his K9 there, so shipping K9 would be quite "thin".
Villain's response vs my river bet
My response vs his raise
Actually K9 unblocking the flush is being used in there as a bluff 3-bet jam, btw lol(It's not even 3-betting flushes). Stacks are obv bigger and I made the ship a little bit bigger than in the actual hand(simmed again with smaller sizings and the ranges were the same), but this shows that your view of this spot is way off.
Obviously after you take into account how most people play, how unprotected villain's range is and how unprotected mine is too, then it becomes a trivial value jam, but I always base my standards in theory while you base yours on whatever the whales you play against stds are.
We played the hand the same, but our thought process was different, while you're thinking about how cool you are for 3-betting whatever 9x in there you have, I'm thinking about what villain and I are doing different to end up with such ****ed up ranges OTR and how can I exploit that or if it's actually worth some EV for me to play differently on earlier streets with other parts of my range to make more EV in these types of rivers.
Just read the thread, all the answers are in the last few pages.
pot odds aren't relevant when villain has 0 bluffs
pretty sure nobody has those fh combos otr lol unless youre doing something odd in pio.
everyone in the world bets J9 otf. and A9 ott
H3 is definitely not a punt, H1 is probably a punt, H2 we will never know, I prefer to overfold and challenge my opponent to come up with overbluffs in this spot, so if he is actively exploiting me and raising total 0 equity hands vs me, then he is making some money. But on this texture only, this spot only, for a limited amount of hands until I see that he is an aggro whale and start adjusting.
All the hands I post here are legit, I think there was only one hand I posted on 2p2 that was fake and I already outed it.
I think I raise Q9. Most people just nit it up and just call vs the raise. You make it look this as such a trivial ship, but gotta be paying attention and think to make plays like that, if I'm auto-piloting I think I just call in there.
You think you're so smart but you actually have 0 clue on how that spot works in theory, I'm actually supposed to bet-fold K9 in there around 33% of the time and villain isn't even supposed to be raising most of his K9 there, so shipping K9 would be quite "thin".
Villain's response vs my river bet
My response vs his raise
Actually K9 unblocking the flush is being used in there as a bluff 3-bet jam, btw lol(It's not even 3-betting flushes). Stacks are obv bigger and I made the ship a little bit bigger than in the actual hand(simmed again with smaller sizings and the ranges were the same), but this shows that your view of this spot is way off.
Obviously after you take into account how most people play, how unprotected villain's range is and how unprotected mine is too, then it becomes a trivial value jam, but I always base my standards in theory while you base yours on whatever the whales you play against stds are.
We played the hand the same, but our thought process was different, while you're thinking about how cool you are for 3-betting whatever 9x in there you have, I'm thinking about what villain and I are doing different to end up with such ****ed up ranges OTR and how can I exploit that or if it's actually worth some EV for me to play differently on earlier streets with other parts of my range to make more EV in these types of rivers.
Just read the thread, all the answers are in the last few pages.
pot odds aren't relevant when villain has 0 bluffs
How does PIO feel about folding H1/H2/H4? Or are non equilibrium plays only cool and important when you make them?
when you pull out pio screenshots to justify any of this, it is literally an illustration as to why so so so many people like you are going round and round in circles in poker. Piosolver IMO has genuinely confused enough people to say it's made the games below midstakes easier.
when you pull out pio screenshots to justify any of this, it is literally an illustration as to why so so so many people like you are going round and round in circles in poker. Piosolver IMO has genuinely confused enough people to say it's made the games below midstakes easier.