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11-27-2017 , 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
I'm not winning because I tilt and play like a ******, man, not because I opened 2% wider than I should in that spot.
Tilting and playing like a ****** are reasons why you're not winning. Preflop leaks are another mixed with your aggressive/spewy postflop play and things get really bad. You're probably bluffing too wide tbh just from looking at your showdown winnings and you probably are making bad calls postflop which mixed with getting bluffcatched alot leads to tilt.

Don't take this as a personal attack, this is what I noticed from mainly hands you uploaded and playing vs you. You just show up with hands that you're not meant to really have.
11-27-2017 , 04:52 PM
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11-27-2017 , 05:39 PM
If you tilt or punt off one stack, thats 100bb. If your winrate is 5bb/100 you have to play at least 2000 hands just to return that one stack. That makes a big difference between winning and loosing player.
11-27-2017 , 07:50 PM
Why Even Try to talk sense to someone who thinks he plays hs vs otb .and belive its gg on
His behalf bc he sees simular hh in hs thread.
Lol
11-27-2017 , 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vo2Max
Why Even Try to talk sense to someone who thinks he plays hs vs otb .and belive its gg on
His behalf bc he sees simular hh in hs thread.
Lol
That. People are not reading or catching onto you, Rapid. As I said last week, you're making the game harder than it needs to be. I know, you want to make it tougher because when you move up...but how about making it tougher after you're actually winning at a decent clip using good fundamentals? I honestly root for you and you just constantly spew stacks and try to justify 99+% of them.
11-28-2017 , 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .isolated
That. People are not reading or catching onto you, Rapid. As I said last week, you're making the game harder than it needs to be. I know, you want to make it tougher because when you move up...but how about making it tougher after you're actually winning at a decent clip using good fundamentals? I honestly root for you and you just constantly spew stacks and try to justify 99+% of them.
How am I making it harder than it needs to be? I play only during good hours, I don't play on friday because of life stuff. Even though I don't try super hard to avoid regs, I don't go out of my way to fight them, also I make somewhat tight fold on the button when I see 3-bet monkeys in the blinds.

The thing is that I post here only the most interesting hands I play, it's not like I triple barrel bluff the river all the time. A good player needs to bluff the river and make moves like that sometimes, and that's what I try to do: to not overbluff like crazy, not underbluff too.

About that 53s hand, how it is spew? Pre-flop, if I'm doing a small % of the time(like 10%), it's fine(and I 3-bet 53s even less than that), OTF, range cbet, fine, OTT is the only street which is questionable, we should check-fold some and do some double barreling, OTR it's a mandatory shove. If I played that spot always like that, I would be overbluffing a ton, villain would probably make tons of money if he called with any pair there. The thing is that what is villain's range OTR and population tendencies?

Villain has a ton of TPGK, some flushes, some 2-pairs, trips. From my experience, people on NL50 usually call in that spot with Q high flush+ only vs a random player. OFC, vs someone whom I have history with, he is never folding a flush, 2-pair or trips, but I see them folding most of his Top pair type hands. If he folds those, then I'm doing ok, if he folds more than that, it turns into a huge +EV scenario for me.

I spew a bunch, but it isn't in hands like that, I really played this hand conscious, if you wanna see what I do when I tilt, here are some examples:

Spoiler:
PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 59.68 BB
Hero (SB): 102 BB
BB: 285.46 BB
UTG: 107.48 BB
MP: 153.02 BB
CO: 115.84 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 A

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, BB calls 15 BB

Flop: (48 BB, 2 players) 2 Q 4
Hero bets 15.1 BB, BB calls 15.1 BB

Turn: (78.2 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 62.9 BB and is all-in, BB calls 62.9 BB

River: (204 BB, 2 players) 9
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (204 BB, 2 players) J

Hero shows 7 A (High Card, Ace)
Board #1 (Pre 32%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
(High Card, Ace)
Board #2 (Pre 32%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)

BB shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)
Board #1 (Pre 68%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
(Three of a Kind, Queens)
Board #2 (Pre 68%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)

BB wins 100 BB
BB wins 100 BB


PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 174.98 BB
Hero (SB): 103.52 BB
BB: 365.86 BB
UTG: 223.04 BB
MP: 31.16 BB
CO: 183.2 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 2

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 4.5 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (11 BB, 2 players) 6 9 6
Hero checks, BTN bets 7 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, BTN calls 7 BB

Turn: (39 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 12.26 BB, BTN calls 12.26 BB

River: (63.52 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BTN bets 29 BB, fold

BTN wins 60.34 BB


PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 25.74 BB
SB: 118.26 BB
BB: 196 BB
UTG: 130.58 BB
MP: 104.42 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 7 4 3
UTG bets 4.74 BB, Hero calls 4.74 BB

Turn: (16.98 BB, 2 players) 5
UTG bets 10.76 BB, Hero calls 10.76 BB

River: (38.5 BB, 2 players) T
UTG bets 19 BB, Hero raises to 81.5 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 62.5 BB

Hero shows 8 8 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 81%, Flop 71%, Turn 14%)
UTG shows 5 5 (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 19%, Flop 29%, Turn 86%)
UTG wins 197.5 BB


PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 66.66 BB
SB: 102.28 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 240.68 BB
MP: 108.74 BB
CO: 81.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 K

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.98 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, CO calls 8.02 BB

Flop: (22.5 BB, 2 players) 4 6 8
Hero bets 11.1 BB, CO calls 11.1 BB

Turn: (44.7 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, CO bets 17.84 BB, Hero raises to 77.9 BB and is all-in, CO calls 41.16 BB and is all-in

River: (162.7 BB, 2 players) 4
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (162.7 BB, 2 players) 3

Hero shows 7 K (One Pair, Fours)
Board #1 (Pre 37%, Flop 0.1%, Turn 0%)
(High Card, King)
Board #2 (Pre 38%, Flop 0.1%, Turn 0%)

CO shows A T (Flush, Ace High)
Board #1 (Pre 63%, Flop 100.0%, Turn 100%)
(Flush, Ace High)
Board #2 (Pre 62%, Flop 100.0%, Turn 100%)

CO wins 79.36 BB
CO wins 79.34 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 394.16 BB
SB: 133.84 BB
BB: 101.44 BB
UTG: 96 BB
MP: 116 BB
CO: 199.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T J

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.4 BB, 2 players) K 5 4
CO bets 5.6 BB, Hero calls 5.6 BB

Turn: (18.6 BB, 2 players) 4
CO checks, Hero bets 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB

River: (36.6 BB, 2 players) 4
CO checks, Hero bets 26.2 BB, CO calls 26.2 BB

Hero shows T J (Three of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 28%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
CO shows K T (Full House, Fours full of Kings)
(Pre 72%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)
CO wins 85 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 138.24 BB
SB: 107.4 BB
BB: 106.88 BB
UTG: 101.72 BB
MP: 118.36 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6 6

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 14 BB, fold, Hero calls 11 BB

Flop: (31.4 BB, 2 players) J 2 2
BB bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 25 BB, BB raises to 92.88 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 67.88 BB

Turn: (217.16 BB, 2 players) 8

River: (217.16 BB, 2 players) 2

BB shows A A (Full House, Twos full of Aces)
(Pre 80%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows 6 6 (Full House, Twos full of Sixes)
(Pre 20%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
BB wins 209.16 BB


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 103.36 BB
SB: 176.36 BB
Hero (BB): 108.4 BB
UTG: 100.4 BB
MP: 117.36 BB
CO: 101.68 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 2 4

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 6 BB, BTN raises to 19 BB, Hero raises to 108.4 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 84.36 BB and is all-in

Flop: (207.12 BB, 2 players) 7 J J

Turn: (207.12 BB, 2 players) A

River: (207.12 BB, 2 players) 8
Players agreed to run it twice.

Flop #2: (207.12 BB, 2 players) 6 A 5

Turn #2: (207.12 BB, 2 players) 2

River #2: (207.12 BB, 2 players) 6

Hero shows 2 4 (One Pair, Jacks)
Board #1 (Pre 15%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
(Two Pair, Sixes and Twos)
Board #2 (Pre 17%, Flop 21%, Turn 23%)

BTN shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
Board #1 (Pre 85%, Flop 99%, Turn 100%)
(Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)
Board #2 (Pre 83%, Flop 79%, Turn 77%)

BTN wins 99.56 BB
BTN wins 99.56 BB
11-28-2017 , 12:19 PM
refuse to let yourself tilt
reign in exloits with bad hands
tighten up

just doing these 3 things I think you will see very good results

53s looks spicy pre, post good
11-28-2017 , 12:48 PM
3b and 5b jam 24o , pretty sweet .
Imo 53s is never a 3b, and probably not an open, that hand is way too weak to be played.. you could maybe open it from BTN but i think that's way too loose.
11-28-2017 , 06:41 PM
Bankroll is at $1450

Played poorly today in a ton of hands but got lucky, played with some lack of sleep and tired.

Some hands

H1: good fold OTR? I was too rough on myself, was feeling bad because of the fold, thought it was in a 3-bet pot. By watching it again and looking that it was a single raised pot, it's way better than I thought

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 135.4 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 37.96 BB
UTG: 100 BB
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 55.58 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 4 BB, UTG calls 4 BB

Flop: (15.5 BB, 3 players) Q 5 2
BB checks, UTG bets 9.28 BB, Hero calls 9.28 BB, BB calls 9.28 BB

Turn: (43.34 BB, 3 players) 6
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 21.4 BB, fold, UTG calls 21.4 BB

River: (86.14 BB, 2 players) 8
UTG bets 64.32 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 82.14 BB


H2: SPR makes a shove in a weird size, I should definitely have called it since he gave me a good price, also min-raises are usually stronger than big raises IMO when coming from fish

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 65.4 BB
SB: 208.16 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 52.4 BB
MP: 57.12 BB
CO: 215.14 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 7

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) 4 K 6
SB checks, Hero bets 3.94 BB, SB calls 3.94 BB

Turn: (15.88 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 11.32 BB, SB raises to 22.64 BB, Hero raises to 92.06 BB and is all-in, SB calls 69.42 BB

River: (200 BB, 2 players) T

Spoiler:
SB shows 7 8 (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 30%, Turn 75%)
Hero shows 9 7 (High Card, King)
(Pre 68%, Flop 70%, Turn 25%)
SB wins 196 BB



H3: vs reg that I was running over for a good time, I guess he grew some cojones lol.
Still won't vlauebet OTT lol

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 37.92 BB
SB: 129.58 BB
Hero (BB): 108.8 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 242.48 BB
CO: 105.16 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 K

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) T T 6
Hero checks, MP bets 3.16 BB, Hero calls 3.16 BB

Turn: (12.82 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, MP checks

River: (12.82 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, MP bets 8 BB, Hero raises to 36.18 BB, MP calls 28.18 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows 8 K (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 15%, Flop 6%, Turn 0%)
MP shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
(Pre 85%, Flop 94%, Turn 100%)
MP wins 81.18 BB



H4: vs whale, I think OTR a check is way better than a bet, to let him bluff his busted draws, but I should go for a check-shove, right? My reasoning behind is that fish usually bet tons of weird stuff just for the sake of betting(not only their busted draws) which we miss value from. So is it better to check-call or check-jam? Anyone prefers betting ourselves?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 173.34 BB
Hero (SB): 154.58 BB
BB: 64.12 BB
UTG: 419.74 BB
MP: 86.84 BB
CO: 43.46 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) J Q 6
Hero bets 4.28 BB, BB calls 4.28 BB, fold

Turn: (14.56 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 10.38 BB, BB calls 10.38 BB

River: (35.32 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BB bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB

Spoiler:
BB shows 7 A (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)
(Pre 31%, Flop 37%, Turn 25%)
Hero shows Q A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 69%, Flop 63%, Turn 75%)
Hero wins 75.36 BB



H5: vs weaktight player, OTR I thought I was valuebetting his AQ, in the end he tanked for almost his entire time bank and called with that nut flush + FH blocker lol. Poor play by me, since he isn't calling with worse. I hate to have a good hand vs weaktight players, they never call me with worse.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 89.44 BB
SB: 106.46 BB
BB: 60.24 BB
UTG: 103.22 BB
Hero (MP): 101.5 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J K

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.14 BB, 2 players) 6 K Q
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (6.14 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

River: (12.14 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BTN bets 8 BB, Hero raises to 25 BB, BTN calls 17 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows J K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 43%, Flop 56%, Turn 14%)
BTN shows 9 A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 57%, Flop 44%, Turn 86%)
BTN wins 59.04 BB



H6: vs whale, what's better? Get it in OTT or call and let him bluff? I'm usually taking a more passive line and slowplaying vs those aggro fish, it's usually better, but in that spot I think I lost some value.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 105.5 BB
BB: 259.7 BB
UTG: 122.44 BB
MP: 102.5 BB
CO: 127.18 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

UTG raises to 2.2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, BB calls 8 BB, UTG calls 6.8 BB

Flop: (27 BB, 3 players) 4 2 K
Hero bets 8.48 BB, BB raises to 18 BB, fold, Hero calls 9.52 BB

Turn: (63 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BB bets 29.92 BB, Hero calls 29.92 BB

River: (122.84 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BB checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows K A (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 71%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
BB mucks K 7 (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 29%, Flop 13%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins 118.84 BB
11-29-2017 , 10:14 AM
Btw, making an update for the month.

Volume was lower than expected, but it was like that because I didn't play when I wasn't confident, so it's fine. Watched 12 videos out of 30, could be better, I watch so many videos from dougpolk, joeingram and some old phil galfond videos just for entertainment, so this slowed me down some lol. Also watched all mixgrill's streams, which I consider to be way better than RIO vids, they're also 2:30 hours, so I did ok in my work outside of the tables given how much time I have to dedicate to poker.

Graph for the month:



I'm pretty happy with the results, I ran hot with sets/flushes and poorly with straights, overall I'm pretty sure I'm getting very lucky in non-all in spots. I think my game has improved a ton since I moved to 50z, learned a ton of stuff, changed somethings about my strats and adapted pretty well to some people trying to exploit me and exploiting fish/weaktight regs as well.

Even though my progress seem super slow, considering I've played more than 1 million hands in my life and I'm just a 1bb/100 winner with close to breakeven winrate in $, I think I'm finally getting the idea of how poker should be played. I still have the urges to try to run people over, like "showing who is the boss", which it's an annoying ego thing and it's the thing that has slowed me down the most.

But I'm controlling that way better recently, even in 2013 times I was able to completely ignore it, but my solution for doing that was just "playing like a robot". It's really hard to make thinking decisions and ignore that urge at the same time, but it's the only way for me beat poker in today's games.

I'll keep putting effort into poker, even with those little hours I have, if I keep working on my game and playing, getting better little by little, I think I'll go far in the game.

VAMOOOOOOOOO

11-29-2017 , 10:49 AM
Would like to see you play, do you have any recorded sessions on youtube ?
11-29-2017 , 04:49 PM
Nice EV and red line, keep it up bud
11-29-2017 , 06:26 PM
Quote:
I think I'll go far in the game.
Perhaps you will but not until you resolve your mental game issues and to do that you need to "evolve" your poker persona.

What do I mean by that?

Quote:
I still have the urges to try to run people over, like "showing who is the boss"
Indeed you absolutely do...that's why you post about not respecting other 50 nlz regs, which a passive way of saying you are better than other 50nlz regs.

And if you intuitively believe that (whether or not it is accurate) you are not controlling or even managing your inner-poker self, which needs to be free of that sort of egotistical baggage.

Maybe reading a book about the way the brain works would help you, more than a poker book just now? Thinking Fast, Thinking Slow by Daniel Kahneman is a solid read on brain function in humans (and it gets a shout by Matthew Janda as a great book for poker players to read).

jmo.
11-30-2017 , 11:16 AM
Well done my son. You are the rubberband man.
11-30-2017 , 06:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding
Well done my son. You are the rubberband man.
thx for the song, really cool one haha

VAMOOOOOOOOOOO!!
11-30-2017 , 06:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Princess Elsa
Nice EV and red line, keep it up bud
thx, man xD
11-30-2017 , 06:50 PM
Bankroll is at $1350

Had some tough decisions tonight, also got set over set and didn't tilt, played exactly the same, really proud of that, no 3-betting with 42o today haha.

Some hands

H1: vs 28/6, 1 AF, really tough fold to make, it's one of those hands that we need to be good so few of the times but villain is never with worse there. Those weaktight guys are so annoying.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 134.76 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 478.24 BB
UTG: 138.58 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 101.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 A

UTG raises to 2.24 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.24 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (5.98 BB, 2 players) 6 J 9
UTG bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (13.98 BB, 2 players) 9
UTG bets 8 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, UTG calls 16 BB

River: (61.98 BB, 2 players) 8
UTG checks, Hero bets 44.16 BB, UTG raises to 108.34 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 146.3 BB

H2: vs reg, I think it's good to check OTT because in theory I'm raising the flop with A9/TT/JJ and the K is really good for his range. The thing is that in practice I don't raise with those hands a ton OTF, so in the end it was an exploitative move, since the K only improves his KK, all of my value range has AA/AK/QQ beat, so if I wanted to take a more balanced approach I should bet the turn.

His hero call isn't as bad as it looks though. What about his turn bet? Is it good? I'm asking because I take his line a ton with his hand OTT when checked to(ofc I fold to the raise because people never bluff on 50z haha)


PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 46.88 BB
SB: 65.76 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 55.94 BB
MP: 37.26 BB
CO: 119.38 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 4

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 2 9 4
Hero checks, CO bets 2.76 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, CO calls 6.24 BB

Turn: (23.5 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, CO bets 8.04 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, CO calls 15.96 BB

River: (71.5 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 64.5 BB and is all-in, CO calls 64.5 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows 4 4 (Three of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 49%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
CO shows 9 J (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 51%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 196.5 BB



H3: vs reg that hates to fold, but I think those guys are kinda sensitive to overbets

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 336.22 BB
SB: 383.76 BB
Hero (BB): 108.28 BB
UTG: 91.82 BB
MP: 261.06 BB
CO: 47.22 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 J

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) K 9 7
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (5.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 3.92 BB, BTN calls 3.92 BB

River: (13.34 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 16 BB, fold

Hero wins 12.68 BB


H4: OTR was deciding if my SDV was good enough to check behind, but in the end, I would play AQ this way, so went for the bluff

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 101.5 BB
SB: 171.82 BB
BB: 297.46 BB
UTG: 157.18 BB
MP: 208.12 BB
CO: 141.94 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) 8 2 T
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (17.5 BB, 2 players) Q
MP bets 8.32 BB, Hero calls 8.32 BB

River: (34.14 BB, 2 players) 5
MP checks, Hero bets 24.34 BB, fold

Hero wins 32.44 BB
11-30-2017 , 07:08 PM
When 28/6 opens UTG and you flat that hand you wont be very happy when board is Axx
11-30-2017 , 09:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by moremore
When 28/6 opens UTG and you flat that hand you wont be very happy when board is Axx
called pre because a fish was in the blinds
also i'm folding tpwk to a double barrel from a passive player
12-03-2017 , 11:46 AM
Bankroll is at $1220

Playing really well, aside from some bluffs I've made vs fish, but some worked too, really hard to know if any of those were +EV or not. BTW, watched some nick howard videos from his youtube channel, his ideas seem really good and on point with everything I see at the tables, as well as with ohheycindy's podcast.

It seems a ton of players are focusing so much on sudo-gto strats just for the sake of balance rather than focusing on what makes most money vs the population. Even though I'm far from those sudo-gto strats(most of what I use is just what I copy from RIO videos), and I'm more into that exploitative stuff, it was kinda enlightening for me, since I usually blame myself and go to hard on myself when I make exploitative plays and they go wrong. I think I'll take more time analyzing my database and population tendencies, trying to go for more exploits.

My game is filled with a ton of exploits, but I'll try to look for the more profitable ones and simple stuff. I already make a ton of big bluffs and big folds, will focus more on small stabs and trying to find good opportunities for calls and spots where people are bluffing a ton.

Some hands

H1: vs trojanovich, even though it's a cooler, he is doing his homework there by slowplaying pre and letting me bluff, I've posted a ton of hands here that I was bluffing there OTT, wp by him.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101.96 BB
SB: 382.5 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 123.18 BB
MP: 121.9 BB
CO: 106.38 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 12 BB, Hero raises to 25 BB, fold, SB calls 13 BB

Flop: (53 BB, 2 players) Q T Q
SB checks, Hero bets 16.66 BB, SB calls 16.66 BB

Turn: (86.32 BB, 2 players) 4
SB checks, Hero bets 58.34 BB and is all-in, SB calls 58.34 BB

River: (203 BB, 2 players) 5
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (203 BB, 2 players) 6

Spoiler:
SB shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
Board #1 (Pre 82%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
(Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
Board #2 (Pre 82%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)

Hero shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
Board #1 (Pre 18%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
(Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
Board #2 (Pre 18%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)

SB wins 99.5 BB
SB wins 99.5 BB



H2: tanked a ton OTR, but in the end remembered of the old chicagojoey's saying "it's hard to make quads, kid" lol

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 131.16 BB
SB: 101.5 BB
BB: 103.68 BB
UTG: 20.8 BB
MP: 100 BB
Hero (CO): 102.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, SB calls 1.82 BB, fold

Flop: (5.64 BB, 2 players) 5 9 5
SB checks, Hero bets 4.02 BB, SB raises to 13.3 BB, Hero calls 9.28 BB

Turn: (32.24 BB, 2 players) 5
SB bets 14.5 BB, Hero calls 14.5 BB

River: (61.24 BB, 2 players) 3
SB bets 71.38 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 71.38 BB

Spoiler:
SB shows 7 8 (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 18%, Flop 17%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows K K (Full House, Fives full of Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 83%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 200 BB



H3: vs guy with very high AF, I think it was better to check-call rather than bet-fold, since he has high AF, it means he isn't paying me off a ton, he will be mostly folding or raising, by checking I could let him bluff too. Annoying raise OTR for sure =(

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 97.5 BB
SB: 134.98 BB
Hero (BB): 105.52 BB
UTG: 102.34 BB
MP: 409.34 BB
CO: 617.28 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 6

UTG raises to 2.2 BB, MP calls 2.2 BB, CO calls 2.2 BB, fold, SB calls 1.7 BB, Hero calls 1.2 BB

Flop: (11 BB, 5 players) 5 3 3
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: (11 BB, 5 players) J
SB checks, Hero bets 8 BB, fold, MP calls 8 BB, fold, fold

River: (27 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 19.24 BB, MP raises to 56 BB, fold

MP wins 62.2 BB


H4: pre, flop and turn are fine, right? OTR I bet because he could have busted draws that would fold, OFC I'm overbluffing in this spot if I'm betting all my busted draws, but meh.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 128.72 BB
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 124.5 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 6

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 2 J 3
Hero checks, BB bets 5.64 BB, Hero raises to 18 BB, BB calls 12.36 BB

Turn: (54 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 16.98 BB, BB calls 16.98 BB

River: (87.96 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 56.52 BB and is all-in, BB calls 56.02 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows 8 6 (Three of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 21%, Flop 26%, Turn 0%)
BB shows J J (Full House, Jacks full of Twos)
(Pre 79%, Flop 74%, Turn 100%)
BB wins 196 BB



H5: vs weaktight reg, by looking at his hand OTR it seems it was a good river bluff then xD

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101 BB
SB: 104.52 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 89.42 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 119.68 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 8

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (5.3 BB, 2 players) 4 3 3
Hero checks, CO bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 6.28 BB, CO calls 5.28 BB

Turn: (17.86 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 12.72 BB, CO calls 12.72 BB

River: (43.3 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 30.86 BB, CO calls 30.86 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows Q 8 (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 61%, Flop 49%, Turn 52%)
CO shows 5 6 (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 39%, Flop 51%, Turn 48%)
CO wins 101.02 BB
12-04-2017 , 09:26 AM
I would call both H2/H3 rivers without blinking.

KK would have to be against a massive nit for me to tank river on that runout, 5x shouldn't be part of SBs pf range, he might have the odd 99 some times but if he has it then GG. So many potential draws brick otr that this is a snapcall imo, yeah turn brings trips on board so his bluffs should really slow down, but if you are considering folding KK then he is printing.

64 hand I like a river bet more than x/c and I'm absolutely calling a raise vs 'guy with very high AF', the way this hand played out I don't see him having many valueraises otr, we are only losing to 77? His JJ bets flop, 55/33 folds pre (depending on his pf stats). When villain is repping so thin for value I think we have to call. Would like to see some stats on the guy if you have a sample.
12-04-2017 , 10:45 AM
btw, after reading your post, panda, I started reviewing my river raises trying to see if I'm overbluffing or not, soon I'll post the results and discuss with you about that.

found this awesome hand there lol

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 75.18 BB
SB: 121.42 BB
BB: 111.24 BB
Hero (UTG): 109.48 BB
MP: 136.72 BB
CO: 146.04 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 A

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, CO calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (6.14 BB, 2 players) A J J
Hero checks, CO bets 2.92 BB, Hero calls 2.92 BB

Turn: (11.98 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, CO bets 5.7 BB, Hero calls 5.7 BB

River: (23.38 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, CO bets 11.12 BB, Hero raises to 44.46 BB, fold

Hero wins 43.34 BB
12-04-2017 , 11:08 AM
subbed, we're fishing in the same pool
12-04-2017 , 11:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PandaLife
I would call both H2/H3 rivers without blinking.

KK would have to be against a massive nit for me to tank river on that runout, 5x shouldn't be part of SBs pf range, he might have the odd 99 some times but if he has it then GG. So many potential draws brick otr that this is a snapcall imo, yeah turn brings trips on board so his bluffs should really slow down, but if you are considering folding KK then he is printing.

64 hand I like a river bet more than x/c and I'm absolutely calling a raise vs 'guy with very high AF', the way this hand played out I don't see him having many valueraises otr, we are only losing to 77? His JJ bets flop, 55/33 folds pre (depending on his pf stats). When villain is repping so thin for value I think we have to call. Would like to see some stats on the guy if you have a sample.
From my experience, it's better to be on the nittier side when playing NL50z, I prefer finding reasons to fold rather than to call, mostly because the pool is so nitty and I'm pretty sure that the thing that cost me the most in this stake was leveling myself into calling, even std calls, because people don't bluff.

Fish are usually more unpredictable and they can show with a ton of crap, but even the fish are nitty, I call light only vs huge whales that can show with any2 OTR. On that hand I wasn't folding, but I like to take some time to think about doing that on every spot I get to.

On the 64 hand, the guy had like 11 AF, but the sample was really small, like 20-30 hands, he was probably a fishy player, and those guys usually slowplay OTF with their quads/FH. Also someone with high AF isn't likely to call light OTT, he is either raising or folding most of the time. That's why I folded OTR.

Btw, here is the results of my river raising range:

bluffs: 38
value: 73

So I'm bluffing 34% when I raise the river, that's really close to the amount to be bluffing at an optimal frequency when valuebetting for pot. I've made this research to see how one of the most aggressive regulars bluff the river, if I were underbluffing, then it's safe to say that most of the time river raises aren't safe at all.

I'm pretty sure few people on 50z play as crazy as I do, there's some other regs out there and ofc some crazy fish/drunk people. But it's quite obvious that we should be folding a ton OTR vs the overall population, specially with those huge nits, which are like 90% of the player pool, even the fish.

These % are for potting the river, and I've raised most of the time for less than that, like 75%, some rare min-raises and rare overshoves. But I think we should take a more conservative approach even with dealing with min-raises OTR, fish just don't bluff ever on that spot, we need to be good somewhere around 20% in those spots, but I get the idea that min-raises are made with an even stronger range than pot raises on 50z.

I've looked at the hands I've bet-called the river and I found out that I was winning 35%, even with my super nitty river approach, even with really insane folds that I posted here, I'm making only the amount to break-even on a call for a pot sized bet OTR.

tl, dr: fold the river, guys lol

btw, really cool to see that I'm bluffing at a balanced frequency with my river raises, lol!!!! I was 100% sure I was underbluffing haha
12-04-2017 , 02:26 PM
Yeah I can agree that 'finding reasons to fold rather than to call' seems like a good river approach to these games especially vs raises, at the same time I do think you are overestimating the nittiness a slight bit and thinking everyone is terrible etc, but I know people have told you this 'ego-thing' before. idk about the nittiness as I haven't played 50z in a while, it's all relative though, but I'm pretty sure however that 90% of the pool/regs aren't those huge nits that you say. Or we might have different thoughts about what a 'huge nit' looks like

As for the 64 hand, I wouldn't have a look at stats like AF of a guy with a sample of 20-30 hands. I'm all for using all the information we currently have but that's just misleading. If he played 80 VPIP and still had a AF of 11 we can look at it a bit more as he is more likely to actually be crazy, but we need a good sample of hands for these postflop stats to be useful.

Cool to see you digging into your db and pulling out some numbers.

      
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