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06-05-2019 , 12:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
I play with a range cbet strat, the shove was for value. He isn't supposed to raise to his sizing and have folds anyway, so his raise is effectively a shove, which I wasn't folding against obv, so just put the rest of the money in. I was somewhat afraid because those small raises are nutted when fish makes those, but since villain was a reg I ignored his sizing and treated it as a shove, prefer to not play guessing games with people who are better than I am at playing those.

I think that there's merit to having a x range in that spot, but I haven't studied 4-bet pots, so that's the strat that I know how to use. If I'm not overdoing with my 4-bets it's fine, also if villain is overdefending vs my 4-bets then the range cbet is already an exploit vs him.
Well there are some clear boards we don't want to cbet range on. What about J98tt? The 4bet caller will not only have more suited hands than us but also more sets.

As for it being a value shove with AK. Well you pretty much got the ideal hand to be up against and it is 52/48 in your favor. I think that is more of a function of a flaw in the cbet range strategy though.

I think you played the other hands well!

Check out PIOvsPopulation Episode 4. Carroters talks about 4bet pot strategies a lot and it is well done. I think it is a good short cut if you don't want to spend hours going over 4bet strats.

Last edited by DooDooPoker; 06-05-2019 at 12:40 AM.
06-05-2019 , 12:47 AM
The AK hand was standard.

That was really the only way to play it.
06-05-2019 , 12:57 AM
Shrug, I've got some pretty decent (afaik) preflop ranges and no suited ace ever gets folded bvb vs a 4b. The 4b you did was slightly larger than assumed, but still. I don't know how badly to deviate vs a pool 4 betting less than optimal, but I highly doubt the ev of calling can be very bad.
06-05-2019 , 01:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZKesic
The AK hand was standard.

That was really the only way to play it.
You might be right - i'd have to do some solver work on this spot.

I do know that BB made a mistake by calling with A9cc. That is a clear fold to the 4bet. Then BB compounded the mistake by raising the flop when he should just be calling.

We would raise all our non Ace club draws well before our Axcc. We also need to some flush draws in our calling range so we would use Axcc.
06-05-2019 , 07:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Well there are some clear boards we don't want to cbet range on. What about J98tt? The 4bet caller will not only have more suited hands than us but also more sets.

As for it being a value shove with AK. Well you pretty much got the ideal hand to be up against and it is 52/48 in your favor. I think that is more of a function of a flaw in the cbet range strategy though.

I think you played the other hands well!

Check out PIOvsPopulation Episode 4. Carroters talks about 4bet pot strategies a lot and it is well done. I think it is a good short cut if you don't want to spend hours going over 4bet strats.
Yeah, on some textures I check range.

Where is that carroters video? I love his avatar, saw him at the unfoldem tables haha.
06-05-2019 , 07:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
You might be right - i'd have to do some solver work on this spot.

I do know that BB made a mistake by calling with A9cc. That is a clear fold to the 4bet. Then BB compounded the mistake by raising the flop when he should just be calling.

We would raise all our non Ace club draws well before our Axcc. We also need to some flush draws in our calling range so we would use Axcc.
There isn't much difference between jamming and calling A9, his sizing could scare the **** out of some people too. Your approach is good, but you don't need to think that hard about your ranges, in that spot I'm pretty sure villain has 0 clue on what range he gets in to the flop and me too, 4-bet pots are so rare that it's not relevant to try to be unexploitable, specially in such a big player pool.

In those rare spots with low SPR just try to stick it in with equity/value/protection while avoiding villain's clear imbalances (like people underbluffing on Axx boards in 4bp). Also know the spots where it's easy for you to underbluff and you're perceived to underbluff and add some bluffs in those spots, don't be afraid to overbluff in those spots, don't need to be super precise. And ofc avoid overbluffing in spots where you're perceived to overbluff, don't make it easy for your opponents and reward their spews.

In a lot of spots you can figure out a winning strat only by thinking a bit without pio study and it's actually not that hard to make an explo strat with common sense that won't lose much compared to pio and it might even overrealize if you take into account the correct variables. That's how I approach spots I haven't studied yet on pio.

Last edited by Rapidesh123; 06-05-2019 at 07:31 AM.
06-05-2019 , 07:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by isunkurbttlship
Shrug, I've got some pretty decent (afaik) preflop ranges and no suited ace ever gets folded bvb vs a 4b. The 4b you did was slightly larger than assumed, but still. I don't know how badly to deviate vs a pool 4 betting less than optimal, but I highly doubt the ev of calling can be very bad.
What RFI/3-bet do you use for SB/BB?

A9s is obv a very strong hand vs monkeys, but vs people who use solver ranges it's not that good imo. If one is overdoing with 4-bets it will print. But it's losing massively vs population and suboptimal vs someone trying to copy a solver imo.

One thing I learned about 100z regs is that they are so good at guessing games but not very good at poker, so I do my best to play as close to a solver as I can preflop/otf, because these guys can pull the trigger with a 5-bet with any 2 cards if they think I'm overdoing. And I don't want to be in a situation in which they get rewarded by making bad plays.
06-08-2019 , 11:11 PM
Running well, playing well!

Some hands

H1: vs unknown shaping to be a nitfish, OTT I don't think he has any bluffs and I think it's likely that he isn't valuebetting worse, maybe the same. OTF it was so dry that he would need to be spazzing with random 0 equity hands with backdoors only. I prefer to be tighter than usual vs those guys. Good fold?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 554.08 BB
SB: 143.06 BB
BB: 161.5 BB
UTG: 95.5 BB
Hero (MP): 129.36 BB
CO: 173.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, CO calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (6.14 BB, 2 players) 3 K 6
Hero bets 1.46 BB, CO raises to 5.84 BB, Hero calls 4.38 BB

Turn: (17.82 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, CO bets 12.7 BB, fold

CO wins 16.92 BB


H2:

Yet he calls lol

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 415.26 BB
SB: 104.09 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 206.62 BB
MP: 207.21 BB
Hero (CO): 103.86 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 6

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BTN raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.68 BB

Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 9 6 4
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (15.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 9.72 BB, BTN calls 9.72 BB

River: (34.94 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BTN bets 26 BB, Hero raises to 87.14 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 61.14 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows 6 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 51%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
BTN shows T K (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
(Pre 49%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 206.72 BB



H3: vs fish

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 49.5 BB
SB: 200.67 BB
Hero (BB): 129.87 BB
UTG: 104.89 BB
MP: 110.77 BB
CO: 101.51 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, CO calls 8 BB

Flop: (22.5 BB, 2 players) 3 2 A
Hero bets 5.35 BB, CO calls 5.35 BB

Turn: (33.2 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (33.2 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, CO bets 21 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

Spoiler:
CO shows 8 8 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 19%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows J J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 81%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 72.7 BB



H4: "Outwhaled the whale", like mirage used to say haha. RIP!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 103.7 BB
SB: 107.5 BB
BB: 96.5 BB
UTG: 63.74 BB
MP: 104 BB
CO: 90.32 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 4.5 BB

Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 3 4 K
CO checks, Hero bets 3.68 BB, CO raises to 14.72 BB, Hero raises to 96.7 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 42.7 BB


H5: vaaaaaaaaamo!

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 103.38 BB
SB: 206.42 BB
Hero (BB): 122 BB
UTG: 121.9 BB
MP: 429.35 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J Q

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 2 8 Q
Hero checks, CO bets 1.62 BB, Hero calls 1.62 BB

Turn: (8.74 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, CO bets 6.64 BB, Hero calls 6.64 BB

River: (22.02 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, CO bets 14.74 BB, Hero raises to 111.24 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 49 BB


H6: vs massive whale, I like this, thought that he was either bluffing or valuebetting a flush+, checked my pt4 notes and he was limp-calling 42o and 3-betting a lot with high aggression stats post-flop. Also I think these guys will spazz out very often OTF and OTT. What do you guys think? Fold vs this guy? Maybe he bluffs smaller OTR and always uses that sizing with a flush+?

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 124.31 BB
SB: 426.52 BB
BB: 163.12 BB
UTG: 121.17 BB
MP: 107.52 BB
CO: 1087.24 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 A

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB calls 1.82 BB, BB raises to 3.64 BB, Hero calls 1.32 BB, SB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (10.92 BB, 3 players) A J K
SB checks, BB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB, fold

Turn: (20.92 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

River: (40.92 BB, 2 players) J
BB bets 70 BB, Hero calls 70 BB

Spoiler:
BB shows 8 T (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 44%, Flop 20%, Turn 97%)
Hero mucks 3 A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 56%, Flop 80%, Turn 3%)
BB wins 178.42 BB
06-09-2019 , 03:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
H2:

Yet he calls lol
Why wouldn't anybody bluff there? It seams like a pretty bluffy line to me haha.
Like 89/TJ or something.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
H4: "Outwhaled the whale", like mirage used to say haha. RIP!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 103.7 BB
SB: 107.5 BB
BB: 96.5 BB
UTG: 63.74 BB
MP: 104 BB
CO: 90.32 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 4.5 BB

Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 3 4 K
CO checks, Hero bets 3.68 BB, CO raises to 14.72 BB, Hero raises to 96.7 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 42.7 BB
These lines are costing you a lot of money imo. They are far from GTO and you keep making them way too often. Do you ever value bet like this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
H5: vaaaaaaaaamo!

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 103.38 BB
SB: 206.42 BB
Hero (BB): 122 BB
UTG: 121.9 BB
MP: 429.35 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J Q

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 2 8 Q
Hero checks, CO bets 1.62 BB, Hero calls 1.62 BB

Turn: (8.74 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, CO bets 6.64 BB, Hero calls 6.64 BB

River: (22.02 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, CO bets 14.74 BB, Hero raises to 111.24 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 49 BB
The most standard river call ever. But jam could be good too, I guess. (Do you often just call turn with TJ?)
06-09-2019 , 08:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZKesic
Why wouldn't anybody bluff there? It seams like a pretty bluffy line to me haha.
Like 89/TJ or something.



These lines are costing you a lot of money imo. They are far from GTO and you keep making them way too often. Do you ever value bet like this?


The most standard river call ever. But jam could be good too, I guess. (Do you often just call turn with TJ?)

Yeah, that line looks bluffy, but most passive players don't turn sdv into bluffs. The river K makes it easier gor OOP to trap a lot on that card too. Vs population I think his call is losing like crazy, vs me it's winning.

You are right, I dont jam for value like that anymore (used to), but vs whales that spazz with any2 vs the small sizing I'm testing this play. Not sure if it's good, I got owned pretty hard by doing this recently in one hand but I will keep testing that. Maybe do it only vs spazz monkeys

And yeah, otr it 's just a call vs a good reg, I won't have many valuebets OTR vs most people. But population underbluffs to oblivion with my line, if I think I can get away with it I will do it. Finland does that crap all day for years and these nits keep folding. I used to think it was bad but he made me view it as a good exploit.

In theory our combo should be bluffed like 5% of the time, the best x/r bluff combos are the best calling combos on most spots.
06-11-2019 , 08:39 PM
Ended up looking at the results, volume is so low, and on top of that internet is very bad today, so will just run some sims instead. I think that my plan to quit looking at results daily is helping my mental game, specially with the tighter BRM approach(I'm at $6.3k and still mixing 50z/100z). Also my more explo approach is doing really well, punishing these muppets really hard and I can "feel the money coming in" whenever I play vs someone.

Before I bought PIO I didn't feel like that at all, tbh I was always clueless and didn't know where my EV was coming from, was just clicking buttons trying to "stay balanced" instead of forcing some lines that could induce villains to make more mistakes/exploiting fish with really greedy lines.

But after I started with this more professional approach I can see that my volume went down, I feel like I lost a bit of that passion after I started treating poker like work and play to make money. That was the reason why I first quit poker, so I'm really afraid that I will lose the will to play. Obv poker is way more fun when you're punting stacks all day and not caring about much haha.

It's unbelievable how much PIO helped me, I used to be proud of myself as the "most unexploitable reg", while in fact, I was actually one of the most exploitable ones. Not talking about people snapping me off and beating me with overcalls, because my betting/raising ranges(at least OTR) were getting bluffed at a very close % to give my opponents a breakeven call. I was easily exploited because of how much I folded, overfolding is such a crime in gto poker, I was overfolding TP/midpairs and bluffcatchers all over the place. It's unbelievable that I managed to win given how much I overfolded vs everyone. I think 0 people out there made folds as crazy as I posted here in those times lol.

Month so far



Year so far




Some hands

H1: this was one of the worst played hands I've seen in my life lol

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 116.64 BB
SB: 191.92 BB
BB: 103.18 BB
UTG: 170.28 BB
MP: 142.7 BB
Hero (CO): 114.02 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BTN raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 23 BB, BTN calls 15 BB

Flop: (47.5 BB, 2 players) A 4 K
Hero bets 11.28 BB, BTN calls 11.28 BB

Turn: (70.06 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 16.64 BB, BTN calls 16.64 BB

River: (103.34 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 63.1 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 63.1 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows A K (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 60%, Flop 93%, Turn 95%)
BTN shows 3 6 (Two Pair, Sixes and Threes)
(Pre 40%, Flop 7%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 225.54 BB



H2: not today

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 98.5 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 251.5 BB
UTG: 100.34 BB
MP: 207.42 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BTN raises to 8.46 BB, fold, fold, fold

BTN wins 6.14 BB


H3: Love this one

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 104.76 BB
SB: 116.24 BB
Hero (BB): 115.88 BB
UTG: 612.48 BB
MP: 96.72 BB
CO: 82 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 6

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 5 A 8
Hero checks, BTN bets 1.56 BB, Hero calls 1.56 BB

Turn: (8.62 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 6.14 BB, Hero raises to 21.48 BB, BTN calls 15.34 BB

River: (51.58 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 36.76 BB, fold

Hero wins 49 BB


H4: vs passive fish, blockers are soooooo good but I can't see him bluffing with that line, also those passive guys love trapping when they flop a FH

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 76.42 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 106.28 BB
UTG: 112.26 BB
MP: 106.94 BB
CO: 99 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (20 BB, 2 players) J Q J
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: (20 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BB bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

River: (38 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BB bets 87.28 BB and is all-in, fold

BB wins 36.1 BB


H5: vs fish, this is a fold, right? Sure that most people won't x back FHs(and that's what I think he is repping for that sizing), but fish can do it. I leveled myself into calling because of the small bet inducing something + that few people x back sets/2p OTF

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 364.78 BB
SB: 128.7 BB
Hero (BB): 108.52 BB
UTG: 173.5 BB
MP: 169.5 BB
CO: 80 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 6

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 7 J 9
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 1.78 BB, BTN calls 1.78 BB

River: (11.06 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 2.62 BB, BTN raises to 18.36 BB, Hero calls 15.74 BB

Spoiler:
BTN shows 9 J (Full House, Jacks full of Nines)
(Pre 62%, Flop 81%, Turn 14%)
Hero mucks 5 6 (Straight, Nine High)
(Pre 38%, Flop 19%, Turn 86%)
BTN wins 45.4 BB



H6: vs unknown fish, never folding, right? If I didn't have the Jh, should I call or fold?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 128.98 BB
SB: 116.48 BB
BB: 95.5 BB
UTG: 105.92 BB
MP: 117.26 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 7.46 BB, Hero calls 5.14 BB

Flop: (15.42 BB, 2 players) 3 7 J
BB bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (29.42 BB, 2 players) T
BB checks, Hero bets 13.98 BB, BB calls 13.98 BB

River: (57.38 BB, 2 players) 5
BB bets 55 BB, Hero calls 55 BB

Spoiler:
BB shows Q K (High Card, King)
(Pre 43%, Flop 25%, Turn 30%)
Hero shows A J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 57%, Flop 75%, Turn 70%)
Hero wins 163.38 BB



H7: rapidesh special lol. He snap called

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 69.58 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 105.82 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 405.96 BB
CO: 86.04 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, CO raises to 3.5 BB, BTN calls 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 100 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, BTN calls 66.08 BB and is all-in

Flop: (143.66 BB, 2 players) K J J

Turn: (143.66 BB, 2 players) 2

River: (143.66 BB, 2 players) Q

Spoiler:
Hero shows A K (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Pre 63%, Flop 13%, Turn 23%)
BTN shows Q J (Full House, Jacks full of Queens)
(Pre 37%, Flop 87%, Turn 77%)
BTN wins 139.66 BB
06-12-2019 , 09:57 AM
Nice month and popping redline - would advise not to post these lines when your screename is your stars name though
06-12-2019 , 10:46 AM
H2 is a misclick i guess?

Nice graphs GLGL
06-12-2019 , 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlasticElephant
Nice month and popping redline - would advise not to post these lines when your screename is your stars name though
Thanks, man!

I always was very open about my strat here, I think few people read the thread and even those who read aren't capable of using the info they get here to exploit me properly, most of them end up leveling themselves and playing weak strats. I've seen even regs I respect take lines that are absolutely 0% on pio trying to exploit me, now imagine the average 50z/100z reg.

Also I do my best to not deviate vs decent regs, I'm a dumb person when it comes to mind games, so I always expect villain to be smarter than I am, so I don't play very greedy strats. I like having them coming to the tables with a lot of plans in mind when they are confident they know my weaknesses when in fact, even if they had 100% info on all my HH they wouldn't be able to completely own my soul. My assumptions and simplifications are all based on theory, easy to apply and I only go a little bit harder on exploits vs them on mixed frequency stuff, which by itself gives me a cap on how much I can be exploited. Also I use blocker RNG and I think my blocker selection is very good.

Now vs fish I'm going explo pretty hard, if I think bluffing ATC is +EV I will do it no matter how spewy my line is, same with overcalling and overfolding. I think the key to have a good winrate is to go nuts vs fish and don't be greedy vs regs. If we manage to breakeven vs regs we're printing a lot already. In theory I should be trying more actively to exploit these weak regs, but I think my approach is better long-term because I will have a good plan vs good regs when I move up. There's a reason why so many people struggle when they move up and I think people get used to playing a very explo strat that is rewarded on lower stakes, but as soon as they move up the meta is the opposite and they start bleeding so much when their bull**** plays won't work anymore.

That redline is probably variance, getting lucky with my bluffs and runnouts recently. It's not easy having a positive redline when your avatar is from brazil lol.
06-12-2019 , 11:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JedMosely
H2 is a misclick i guess?

Nice graphs GLGL
No, it was a snap fold vs a nit
06-12-2019 , 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
No, it was a snap fold vs a nit
When you post statements like this, I ask myself how you are able to show winning graphs tbh
06-12-2019 , 01:27 PM
Vs some guys AK can be a fold in these spots. I've folded QQ in a similar spot just last month.

Spoiler:

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZKesic
    $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

    SB: $11.78 (58.9 bb)
    BB: $90.72 (453.6 bb)
    Hero (CO): $18.68 (93.4 bb)
    BTN: $6.71 (33.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
    Hero raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, SB folds, BB raises to $2, 2 folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $1.30 pot
    BB mucked and won $1.30 ($0.90 net)

    Last edited by ZKesic; 06-12-2019 at 01:32 PM.
    06-12-2019 , 01:56 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kockar
    When you post statements like this, I ask myself how you are able to show winning graphs tbh
    Those folds were probably the only reason why I won money in the first place, if you are always 4-bet-calling off AK blindly you will be giving those 5% 3-bet guys too much of their EV back and not punish their tightness enough. I posted here some pages ago on that subject about why I think AK is even a -EV call pre. Try to think about what hands you make money from when you hit or if these nits go for 3 streets for value with AQ.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZKesic
    Vs some guys AK can be a fold in these spots. I've folded QQ in a similar spot just last month.

    Spoiler:


    I think with QQ is a call even in the worst case scenario, because we can stack AA/KK when we hit, also there's the extra money in the pot by the fish.
    06-12-2019 , 02:30 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    I think with QQ is a call even in the worst case scenario, because we can stack AA/KK when we hit, also there's the extra money in the pot by the fish.
    The guy was literally 15/10/2 over a big sample. The only 2 times that I saw him showdown when he 3bet, he had AA. The 3 bet and timing also screamed strenght.
    At that point I might as well have 22 + the fish will back shove sometimes.

    I'm not saying that it was 100% an optimal fold. My point was that it's ok to take some weird lines sometimes if you have a good reason for it.
    06-12-2019 , 03:59 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    No, it was a snap fold vs a nit
    Exact stats & sample size?
    06-12-2019 , 05:52 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZKesic

    I'm not saying that it was 100% an optimal fold. My point was that it's ok to take some weird lines sometimes if you have a good reason for it.
    This, it might end being a small mistake to fold QQ in there, but shipping AK/JJ/TT might be a worse one. If you always ship without thinking it's way worse
    06-18-2019 , 07:24 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by samcx
    Exact stats & sample size?
    Looked here, he was a 20/8 with 3% 3-bet and had called a 2-bet from the blinds with QQ, had 400 hands on him.

    I've been trying to force some volume, was successful but ended up spewing a stack at 200z and made some big mistakes after I played close to 3k hands in that day. Meh, my brain turns into a potato after I play a lot, also 3k hands is like 7 hours of grind because I 2 table.

    Volume is still low for the month despite the extra hands I played on the weekends, having a tough time sleeping recently and I'm not keeping the same routine as I used to. I think I'm burnt out a bit, my studies to pass the government job take so much energy off me, poker isn't a very relaxing game neither, so I think I need to at least sleep well and have more productive hours in my day.

    Also my month is ending on day 26, will travel to São Carlos(where I studied at uni) to a friend's wedding, I hope to at least manage to get to 25k hands for the month until then.

    I don't feel like playing today, so will just study pio for the rest of the day, from my experience it makes no sense to play when I'm not 100% focused on it, I misplay a lot of spots and end up with a very marginal winrate(if not losing), so I think it's more productive to study.

    Some hands

    H1: I used to fold this when I played 200z last year

    PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 227.11 BB
    SB: 102.62 BB
    Hero (BB): 100 BB
    UTG: 135 BB
    MP: 100 BB
    CO: 219.58 BB

    SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4:diamond: K:club:

    fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3.1 BB, Hero calls 2.1 BB

    Flop: (6.2 BB, 2 players) J:heart: Q:heart: K:spade:
    SB bets 1.95 BB, Hero calls 1.95 BB

    Turn: (10.09 BB, 2 players) 5:heart:
    SB bets 7.67 BB, Hero calls 7.67 BB

    River: (25.43 BB, 2 players) J:diamond:
    SB bets 24.16 BB, Hero calls 24.16 BB

    Spoiler:
    SB shows 2:diamond: T:diamond: (One Pair, Jacks)
    (Pre 40%, Flop 33%, Turn 18%)
    Hero shows 4:diamond: K:club: (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
    (Pre 60%, Flop 67%, Turn 82%)
    Hero wins 72.38 BB



    H2: used to fold this too

    PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 133.94 BB
    Hero (SB): 101.5 BB
    BB: 66.37 BB
    UTG: 91.32 BB
    MP: 303.96 BB
    CO: 98.98 BB

    Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:spade: Q:spade:

    fold, MP raises to 2.16 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, MP calls 6.84 BB

    Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond: 9:heart: T:club:
    Hero bets 9.03 BB, MP calls 9.03 BB

    Turn: (37.05 BB, 2 players) J:heart:
    Hero checks, MP bets 18.13 BB, Hero calls 18.13 BB

    River: (73.3 BB, 2 players) 4:club:
    Hero checks, MP bets 267.81 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 65.35 BB and is all-in

    Spoiler:
    MP shows K:diamond: A:spade: (High Card, Ace)
    (Pre 62%, Flop 53%, Turn 14%)
    Hero shows J:spade: Q:spade: (One Pair, Jacks)
    (Pre 38%, Flop 47%, Turn 86%)
    Hero wins 202.63 BB



    H3: Always snap folding this though lol

    PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 103.3 BB
    Hero (SB): 106.29 BB
    BB: 100 BB
    UTG: 120.09 BB
    MP: 112.37 BB
    CO: 100 BB

    Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:diamond: Q:heart:

    UTG raises to 2.3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.3 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, UTG calls 10.7 BB, BTN calls 10.7 BB

    Flop: (40 BB, 3 players) 9:heart: T:spade: 2:spade:
    Hero checks, UTG bets 12.54 BB, BTN raises to 90.3 BB and is all-in, fold, UTG calls 77.76 BB

    Turn: (220.6 BB, 2 players) T:heart:

    River: (220.6 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond:

    Spoiler:
    UTG shows T:diamond: T:club: (Four of a Kind, Tens)
    (Pre 82%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
    BTN shows 9:diamond: 9:club: (Full House, Nines full of Tens)
    (Pre 18%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
    UTG wins 218.1 BB



    H4: Micro stakes tactics still paying off :cool:

    PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 47.29 BB
    Hero (SB): 111.74 BB
    BB: 106.37 BB
    UTG: 100 BB
    MP: 186.89 BB
    CO: 101.5 BB

    Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:diamond: A:heart:

    fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 5 BB, Hero raises to 111.74 BB and is all-in, BB calls 101.37 BB and is all-in

    Flop: (212.74 BB, 2 players) Q:spade: A:spade: 2:diamond:

    Turn: (212.74 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond:

    River: (212.74 BB, 2 players) 8:heart:
    Spoiler:

    Hero shows K:diamond: A:heart: (Two Pair, Aces and Eights)
    (Pre 72%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
    BB shows K:heart: Q:heart: (Two Pair, Queens and Eights)
    (Pre 29%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
    Hero wins 210.24 BB


    H5: vaaaaaamo!

    PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 137.28 BB
    SB: 97.5 BB
    BB: 115.27 BB
    UTG: 107.47 BB
    MP: 93.13 BB
    Hero (CO): 100 BB

    SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7:spade: 6:spade:

    UTG raises to 2.3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 4.7 BB

    Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) J:club: Q:club: 6:diamond:
    UTG checks, Hero checks

    Turn: (15.5 BB, 2 players) J:diamond:
    UTG bets 22.23 BB, Hero calls 22.23 BB

    River: (59.96 BB, 2 players) Q:diamond:
    UTG bets 13.22 BB, Hero raises to 70.77 BB and is all-in, fold

    Hero wins 83.9 BB


    H6: :cool:

    PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 47.53 BB
    SB: 119.89 BB
    BB: 21.73 BB
    UTG: 127.5 BB
    MP: 157.97 BB
    Hero (CO): 136.06 BB

    SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5:diamond: 5:club:

    fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold

    Flop: (6.14 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond: 6:heart: J:club:
    Hero checks, BTN bets 2.92 BB, Hero calls 2.92 BB

    Turn: (11.98 BB, 2 players) T:club:
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    River: (11.98 BB, 2 players) 2:club:
    Hero checks, BTN bets 5.69 BB, Hero raises to 130.82 BB and is all-in, fold

    Hero wins 22.19 BB


    H7: I can't see what I beat OTR. I was calling on all rivers but this one I think. Good fold? Odds are so good but I can't see this guy showing up with bluff candidates on this specific river

    PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): 117.01 BB
    SB: 100 BB
    BB: 102.78 BB
    UTG: 100 BB
    MP: 205.98 BB
    CO: 100.28 BB

    SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4:heart: 4:diamond:

    UTG raises to 2.3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.3 BB, fold, BB calls 1.3 BB

    Flop: (7.4 BB, 3 players) Q:club: J:heart: 4:spade:
    BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 3.52 BB, fold, UTG raises to 14.65 BB, Hero calls 11.13 BB

    Turn: (36.7 BB, 2 players) 6:club:
    UTG bets 43.64 BB, Hero calls 43.64 BB

    River: (123.98 BB, 2 players) T:club:
    UTG bets 39.41 BB and is all-in, fold

    UTG wins 121.48 BB


    H8: good fold? vs unknown

    PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 202.55 BB
    SB: 100.5 BB
    BB: 67.18 BB
    UTG: 103.43 BB
    Hero (MP): 121.41 BB
    CO: 113.73 BB

    SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:heart: Q:heart:

    fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, CO calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold

    Flop: (6.14 BB, 2 players) 2:spade: T:spade: Q:club:
    Hero checks, CO checks

    Turn: (6.14 BB, 2 players) T:heart:
    Hero bets 3.85 BB, CO raises to 8.5 BB, fold

    CO wins 13.15 BB


    H9: so annoying to fold this, when he min 3-bets the flop it's soooo strong, also all his trips x the turn with the FH to induce. If he ships turn should we call?

    PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): 112.25 BB
    SB: 100 BB
    BB: 38.82 BB
    UTG: 153.79 BB
    MP: 51 BB
    CO: 120.56 BB

    SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:spade: K:diamond:

    fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

    Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) 4:heart: 4:spade: 6:diamond:
    BB checks, Hero bets 1.22 BB, BB raises to 2.44 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, BB raises to 11.56 BB, Hero calls 4.56 BB

    Turn: (28.26 BB, 2 players) 6:club:
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: (28.26 BB, 2 players) J:club:
    BB bets 24.94 BB and is all-in, fold

    BB wins 26.85 BB


    H10: Rapistation! haha

    PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 166.25 BB
    SB: 113.24 BB
    BB: 352.56 BB
    Hero (UTG): 101 BB
    MP: 100.78 BB
    CO: 130.66 BB

    SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4:spade: 4:club:

    Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

    Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) J:diamond: 9:diamond: 9:spade:
    BB bets 2.44 BB, Hero raises to 7.32 BB, BB calls 4.88 BB

    Turn: (19.78 BB, 2 players) 8:spade:
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: (19.78 BB, 2 players) 7:heart:
    BB bets 9.4 BB, Hero calls 9.4 BB

    Spoiler:
    BB shows K:diamond: Q:club: (One Pair, Nines)
    (Pre 48%, Flop 51%, Turn 36%)
    Hero shows 4:spade: 4:club: (Two Pair, Nines and Fours)
    (Pre 52%, Flop 49%, Turn 64%)
    Hero wins 36.65 BB



    H11: I think I should fold pre vs this guy, but these nits sometimes tilt vs me specially in SB vs BB and even in the worst case scenario they still manage to misplay post-flop despite the low SPR lol. I was expecting him to trap me a lot OTF, but was surprised to see a trap OTT.

    Deservedly stacked haha

    PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 102 BB
    SB: 100 BB
    Hero (BB): 144.64 BB
    UTG: 23.6 BB
    MP: 121.48 BB
    CO: 100 BB

    SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9:spade: 9:club:

    fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB raises to 23 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

    Flop: (46 BB, 2 players) 6:spade: 7:club: 4:spade:
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: (46 BB, 2 players) 9:heart:
    SB checks, Hero bets 10.92 BB, SB raises to 77 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 66.08 BB

    River: (200 BB, 2 players) 7:spade:
    Players agreed to run it twice.

    River #2: (200 BB, 2 players) J:diamond:

    Spoiler:
    SB shows Q:spade: Q:club: (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
    Board #1 (Pre 82%, Flop 88%, Turn 5%)
    (One Pair, Queens)
    Board #2 (Pre 82%, Flop 87%, Turn 5%)

    Hero shows 9:spade: 9:club: (Full House, Nines full of Sevens)
    Board #1 (Pre 18%, Flop 12%, Turn 95%)
    (Three of a Kind, Nines)
    Board #2 (Pre 18%, Flop 13%, Turn 95%)

    Hero wins 98 BB
    Hero wins 98 BB

    Last edited by Rapidesh123; 06-18-2019 at 07:37 PM.
    06-18-2019 , 09:18 PM
    V A M O S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    06-18-2019 , 10:00 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by scharfkoko
    V A M O S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Vaaaaaamooooo

    Btw, can anyone tell me why in my last post it's not showing the HH as they should be?
    06-18-2019 , 10:19 PM
    hi rapid , do u play live tournaments? like bsop or Ksop?

          
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