If I know the difference in EV of my exploit is small enough I don't need to know the best strategy in that spot, it's useless information and better to focus on other spots where I might be losing more EV.
i would really like to believe that the ev difference is tiny but ur very good at saying incorrect things with stupid levels of confidence so i'm just going to pretend like i didn't read it
The ev difference is not tiny, but it is acceptable considering it massively simplies things, players are still not calling or raising enough against it and it brings tons of other exploits on future streets. I am sure other strats have benefits to(and may well be better) but I don't think you can say betting small on this board is bad against the population.
i would really like to believe that the ev difference is tiny but ur very good at saying incorrect things with stupid levels of confidence so i'm just going to pretend like i didn't read it
I sim that and compared both EVs
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Originally Posted by Manimal88
The ev difference is not tiny, but it is acceptable considering it massively simplies things, players are still not calling or raising enough against it and it brings tons of other exploits on future streets. I am sure other strats have benefits to(and may well be better) but I don't think you can say betting small on this board is bad against the population.
Roll is at $5.7k, but it dropped that much because I cashed out $1.1k, decided to travel to see my friends in São Paulo and princess elsa in Belo Horizonte! I think I won't spend that much in the vacation but I prefer to have more money and be safe if I have any emergency going on.
I know it's not smart brm, but meh, I don't mind waiting a bit to play 200z, I'm still playing some 50z because 100z isn't always good.
Volume is so low for the month, didn't feel like playing in some days and my stomach was hurting too. Also during the next days there will be some holidays and will go out a bit, so meh, I think it will be a very low volume month unless I manage to pull some 3k hand days at the end of it. Will do my best to do it!
Some hands
H1: my combo sucks, but there are only few hands I can use as a bluff here and I expected him to be heavily imbalanced towards straights in there. I really like his play. Should I bet small with my range OTT? I was range checking, maybe both options are the same.
River:(74.24 BB, 2 players) 7 Hero bets 94.34 BB and is all-in, CO calls 63.13 BB and is all-in
Spoiler:
Hero shows A J (Two Pair, Jacks and Sevens)
(Pre 46%, Flop 33%, Turn 22%) CO shows T T (Full House, Tens full of Sevens)
(Pre 54%, Flop 67%, Turn 78%) CO wins 198 BB
H2: vs 18 vpip reg lol, I snap called the river in there haha! He was 3-betting wide and underfolding vs x/r(he folded 1 out of 10 times so far, which is insane)
H6: 50z special 3 lol, I know you guys were missing some very sick folds haha! I just wasn't posting them because they weren't happening. I know AA is a high frequency check OTF, but villain was quite passive, so didn't see much value in checking back.
h1 3b pre. turn is definitely not a range check very far from it - don't take the flop raise line if you have never looked at a sim. ahhahahahah wtf r u doing on river lord have mercy.
h2 i want to say this is wp but i feel like u will mess this up more than not
h3 not in a million years
h4 not in a thousand years
h5 wp
h6 hero folding is folding AA without the Ac. this is just dumb
u seem to have a very poor understanding of fundamentals such as equity and constructing ranges. putting emphasis on reads is fine but poker is not black and white. you definitely take it way too far.
The ev difference is not tiny, but it is acceptable considering it massively simplies things, players are still not calling or raising enough against it and it brings tons of other exploits on future streets. I am sure other strats have benefits to(and may well be better) but I don't think you can say betting small on this board is bad against the population.
i agree. however i see it as a balance of ev difference and simplicity. if pio doesn't even want to touch this board with a 1/3 then i think we're just making a mistake.
Roll is at $6.5k, running like jesus and playing really well vs people
Volume still garbage, lost so many days of grind because of my gastritis, mostly my fault, because I kept drinking coffee and ate some pizza and spicy food. Gotta quit that **** for good, eating very healthy overall but from time to time I eat that stuff(and was addicted to coffee).
My winrate for the year is so insane, getting really lucky, I can't remember of any sample I ran with 5bbev+ over 100k+ hands(and 7bb with the green line)
Some hands
H1: vs reg, good fold? Can't see many bluffs and I block KT, so weird to see a raise on that texture
H2: vs unknown, wp? I thought about raising the flop with JJ/QQ for protection and just flatting KK/AA/sets. I think these guys have so much random garbage when they donk the flop, even some midpairs they could turn into a bluff OTT
fold, fold, CO raises to 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 7.5 BB
Flop:(23.5 BB, 2 players) 5 2 T CO bets 11.16 BB, Hero calls 11.16 BB
Turn:(45.82 BB, 2 players) A CO bets 21.77 BB, Hero calls 21.77 BB
River:(89.36 BB, 2 players) 6 CO bets 59.72 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 59.72 BB
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
CO shows A Q (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 43%, Flop 26%, Turn 95%) Hero shows J J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 57%, Flop 74%, Turn 5%) CO wins 206.3 BB
H3: vs reg that hates to fold vs me, lol. So ******ed to see him trapping that OTR, that's why I kept losing at 100z, people were using value hands as bluffcatchers, really hard for any bluffs to be +EV and I was giving them their EV back by valuebetting very thin and bluffing too.
Turn:(46.42 BB, 2 players) A Hero checks, CO bets 34 BB, Hero raises to 97.94 BB and is all-in, CO calls 63.94 BB
River:(242.3 BB, 2 players) A
Spoiler:
Hero shows Q A (Full House, Aces full of Queens)
(Pre 60%, Flop 82%, Turn 75%) CO shows K 7 (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 40%, Flop 18%, Turn 25%) Hero wins 239.8 BB
H9: vs bad reg, should I fold this? He had nitty stats but I had him marked as a whale at 200z. Thought that I could have induced something and my blockers are good. He is repping only 2 combos, but not sure if he has bluffs in that spot.
H2 you could raise flop or fold turn/river. Other than that all the hands were wp imo.
It's good to see you underbluffing for a change. It's important to know when to exploit these guys. I feel you've been leaking a lot vs them in the past.
H2 you could raise flop or fold turn/river. Other than that all the hands were wp imo.
It's good to see you underbluffing for a change. It's important to know when to exploit these guys. I feel you've been leaking a lot vs them in the past.
Yeah, should raise on h2, but I like calling turn and river. I think these guys don't valuebet that many Ax weak kicker and could be spazzing out. Whenever I see those donks otf I'm just happy calling and never folding because it's so likely villain is doing something ******ed haha.
Yeah, gotta underbluff vs these muppets. If they think you are overdoing they just do their best to put you on a bluff and call you down with their bluffcatchers and with their air/draws they try to rebluff. Underbluffs are only bad vs people who hero fold, if I think villain isn't hero folding then I lose close to 0 theoretical EV by underbluffing (while printing like crazy by doing that if they're overdefending).
Now I see why you guys kept telling me 100z was easy. Ofc most people are nits and it's easy beating a stake where people never fold by just playing tight and valuebetting them to death. People in there always tank otr no matter how bad their bluffcatcher is, I rarely see snap folds otr, so I'm pretty sure most people don't think OTR like that: "I will call this ott and fold most bricks otr", they just use some weird logic(heavily influenced by how tilted they are) and make a decision based on that.
Obv it will be way harder for those guys to beat 200z where people actually fold hands lol. This month there were lots of spots where it was hard for me to find bluffs, population underbluffed and they had ****ty blockers and still called a big overbet otr in a spot where I should be betting 1/6th of what I was betting lol.
Played very poorly today and decided to quit, I played mostly 50z because 100z was trash, was very confused in the end of the session.
Some hands
H1: vs fish, 3-bet pre is loose but I'm trying to play looser vs fish IP. I like overcbetting vs them in there, also I like my call OTR. Quite marginal because he will be bluffing some A highs, but I think that he has so many busted gutshots that it will be +EV unless he is valuebetting all pairs
BB shows A 5 (Two Pair, Nines and Fives)
(Pre 34%, Flop 24%, Turn 9%) Hero shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Nines)
(Pre 66%, Flop 76%, Turn 91%) Hero wins 59.5 BB
H3: his call is so bad, also my raise OTT is terrible vs a thinking player, it's impossible for anyone to have enough bluffs after calling MW on that texture with a whale that was x/r like crazy otf lol. I underestimated him, but maybe it's better to underestimate these guys than to overestimate them like I was doing
River:(21.98 BB, 2 players) T Hero bets 15.66 BB, fold
Hero wins 20.88 BB
H5: vs guy shaping to be an aggro whale, nut worst combo in the universe to call this, but meh, for that sizing I think he was valuebetting only 2p+ and no TPWK, so went for it. Vs whales I think I have to just call, specially when I've seen some of them float any2 OTF.
H6: I quit the session after this one, I was paying attention to the other table and got very confused and just thought that I had 88 or something, lol. Also I totally forgot the action pre and saw myself in a mw pot with 2 fish, so just jammed. Impossible for me to play 4 tables if I'm misreading my hand like that
H1: vs fish, 3-bet pre is loose but I'm trying to play looser vs fish IP. I like overcbetting vs them in there, also I like my call OTR. Quite marginal because he will be bluffing some A highs, but I think that he has so many busted gutshots that it will be +EV unless he is valuebetting all pairs
Yeah, it was one of the factors that made me tank a lot in there, but I decided to call anyways. So many gutshots missed. In ur hand I like just folding because some 56 got there, so he will have only 9T and J9 as bluffs that you beat
yeah that's what I was thinking too, I bluffcatched fishes a few times with K high in my career where they were actually trying to bluff with A high, it's pretty frustrating haha
Yeah, it was one of the factors that made me tank a lot in there, but I decided to call anyways. So many gutshots missed. In ur hand I like just folding because some 56 got there, so he will have only 9T and J9 as bluffs that you beat
Why not TJ?
and I think 9Ts/9Js/TJs are a 100% call preflop for most people. Also a 100% bluff otr.
I didn't expect him to value bet with worse than Q there too + with sets he could go bigger.
Anyways, not a standard call of course. But sometimes you just have that feeling
More importantly than all that tho, GJ realizing you weren’t playing well and standing up. This will matter infinitely more for your WR than the jj or k hi calls
yeah that's what I was thinking too, I bluffcatched fishes a few times with K high in my career where they were actually trying to bluff with A high, it's pretty frustrating haha
Yeah, it's frustrating, but can't let the frustrations of the past influence your decision making in some spots.
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Originally Posted by ZKesic
Why not TJ?
and I think 9Ts/9Js/TJs are a 100% call preflop for most people. Also a 100% bluff otr.
I didn't expect him to value bet with worse than Q there too + with sets he could go bigger.
Anyways, not a standard call of course. But sometimes you just have that feeling
Yeah, tbh I prefer calling in there than auto-folding without thinking like I was doing. The biggest factor to have a big winrate is how many bbs we can squeeze out of these whales/regfish and not how well we play vs top regs. If we aren't making atrocious plays it will be very hard to lose insane amounts vs better regs, but if we can soul read fish often we increase our EV by a lot!
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Originally Posted by Oladipo
I don’t mind that K high call at all
Fold jj
More importantly than all that tho, GJ realizing you weren’t playing well and standing up. This will matter infinitely more for your WR than the jj or k hi calls
Yeah, it was somewhat easy after 86o haha. But I'm doing my best to be aware of when I'm just clicking buttons so I can get out of the tables and don't donate stacks. I enjoy playing poker but I also enjoy studying it the same, so it's a big victory for me if I can skip a -EV session and do some pio work instead.
Really enjoying studying with you haha! Learning a lot from your advice and also I feel more pressure to run sims so we can study more!
Vaaaamoooo
Last edited by Rapidesh123; 04-24-2019 at 05:19 PM.
Roll is at $7.3k, posting the monthly results because I think I won't be able to play in the next few days, gonna see some friends and get somethings done for the trip. Maybe I'll be able to play some random session, will post it if I play.
Volume was really ****ty but I lost like 5 days of poker because of my stomach pain, also quit some sessions because of bad mindset. I've studied way more this month than the other months of the year too, still not sick study volume. Will be back on may 10th, hopefully refreshed and ready to kick some ass again at 100z haha! VAAAAAAAAMO!
Obv ran like jesus lol.
Month:
Year so far
Some hands
H1: rapidesh special haha. Vs 2 very ******ed players. deservedly stacked
Turn:(48.38 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 116.06 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 45.96 BB
H3: He called in less than 3 seconds, haha. Punishment for checking back the turn
Vs people who won't valuebet thin enough ott I think it's very good to trap more OTR