Vs this player.U SEE? U got lucky this time, j high flop And no clue
Vs this player.U SEE? U got lucky this time, j high flop And no clue
Vs this player.U SEE? U got lucky this time, j high flop And no clue
Vs this player.U SEE? U got lucky this time, j high flop And no clue
Vs this player.U SEE? U got lucky this time, j high flop And no clue
Vs this player.U SEE? U got lucky this time, j high flop And no clue
Vs this player.U SEE? U got lucky this time, j high flop And no clue

lol

You are playing at the wrong times then matey...it is nothing like a nitfest when I play.

And mahsjdi...

I was being ironic, mate. Whether I open J8o from the btn depends who is in the blinds, so it is an XPLO play straight up, and since I would not open it to a 3betting reg, it follows that it is a lightning snap fold to a linear/value 3bet.

I'm glad op has an edge over 99% of the 50nlz field...he'll be moving up soon and leave all the fishes to me

Lol

just gotta note that OP needs to work on his mindset if he wants to progress more in poker specificly on self-critical thinking since this way OP u aint going nowhere. altough vo2max post is really harsh, and from what im seeing itt ( i might be wrong obv but just wanted to state the obvious ) there are pretty strong merits to what he said in that post.

Ye pretty sure there are better ways to exploit the pool than calling 3bets with j8o.

Mahsjdi when did you beat 50z for 4bb? U used to just post losing graphs. Was it a 10k sample or something?

agree with nomalice

I get vo2max's point.
The thing is that you guys are probably right by looking at the results so far. I've been break-even over 70k hands on NL50z. But there's so much variance in that, it's possible that I could be a decent winner even with that sample. Not to mention the effects of running bad(which are mostly my fault anyways, but it's so easy to play well when you sunrun).

In the way my life is going right now(and prob for the next 1-2 years), I only have 2h/day to play poker, 5 days/week and around 1h/day to study/watch rio vids. I can't put a decent volume with that, neither study super hardcore, but I'm doing the best I can to do well in this hobby. Since the beginning of the year, when I came back to poker, there wasn't a single day which I haven't thought about poker for a good part of the day. As long as I keep enjoying the game, I'll keep playing and studying and doing my best, even if I think I'm better than the average NL50z reg, it won't keep me from studying and trying to improve.

I'm probably wrong in that assumption, but maybe I'm right, it will take a while to find it out.
btw, I rarely play on fridays, so in that 70k hand sample, I'm missing a ton of value because of that.

You've already seen the graphs and you've already trash talked the graph, don't you get tired of trolling me lol? It's on one of my failed PGC threads. Probably on my 2nd one, I remember you wouldn't stop posting and trolling me on that thread lol.


Imho I don't think you can get very far with only 2 hours of playing and 1 hour of studying, unless you use your time very efficiently but I think even then it would be hard. Nowadays I think you just have to spend a lot more time playing than 2 hours maybe 3-4? But honestly my best advice for you would be get a coach or get a really good player to go over your hands and tell you what mistakes you are making.

I can't afford a coach right now, I don't put money from the real life into poker, since I started I decided that I would build it from the initial $30 I put into the site. Also I'm pretty stubborn, I don't think I'm the kind of person who will get a ton of value from a coach. When I learn a new concept, I usually do it when I figure it out for myself.

It sucks that I can't play more, but I'm at the point in life where I need to get a job, so most of my effort is in my studies for that government job I want.

Bankroll is at $930

Had an annoying session yesterday, even with people donating to me, I had some coolers and spewed around 1 BI =(



If I hit $600 I'll go back to NL16.

Some hands

H1: vs huge nitfish

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 45.52 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 163.9 BB
UTG: 125.16 BB
MP: 129.4 BB
Hero (CO): 127.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

fold, MP raises to 2.58 BB, Hero calls 2.58 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 10.82 BB, MP calls 8.24 BB, Hero calls 8.24 BB

Flop: (32.96 BB, 3 players) 3 K 9
BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (32.96 BB, 3 players) 2
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 10.36 BB, BB calls 10.36 BB, fold

River: (53.68 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 51 BB, fold

Hero wins 51 BB


H2: Vs one guy that looks like a reg, but for some reason he 3-bets me a ton, 25%(16/64) and 5-bets jam every time(every time I 4-bet him, he jammed), I don't know if he is just messing with me, or if he is a random guy from the beginning of the year when I was just playing like crazy lol. It seems he only does it vs me because he isn't losing a ton of money in the sample I have. My sizing was off because I have him marked as a whale and was worried about another hand at the time lol, so didn't have time to think much, just potted.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 59.86 BB
BB: 112.78 BB
Hero (UTG): 102.52 BB
MP: 77.36 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 29 BB, BTN raises to 100 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 71 BB

Flop: (201.5 BB, 2 players) T 5 Q

Turn: (201.5 BB, 2 players) 3

River: (201.5 BB, 2 players) 3



H3: vs the same guy, right after the JJ hand

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 83.84 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 190.22 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 194.06 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 J

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, CO raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 6.68 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) J 5 Q
Hero checks, CO bets 9.5 BB, Hero calls 9.5 BB

Turn: (38.5 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, CO bets 19 BB, Hero calls 19 BB

River: (76.5 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, CO bets 37 BB, Hero calls 37 BB


H4: vs the same guy, right after the J8dd hand, the interesting thing is that boards look like the same, he made the same line. The only difference was that this board had an insane river for his range, which I should be overfolding. But since he made the same line for value in the last hand, I thought that he could use the last hand to get some leverage to overbluff in this one.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 137.94 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 112.52 BB
Hero (UTG): 104.3 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 341.68 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 9

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, MP raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 6.68 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 5 8 3
Hero checks, MP bets 8 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

Turn: (35.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, MP bets 15 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

River: (65.5 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, MP bets 35 BB, Hero calls 35 BB




H5: vs random that was shaping to be a reg.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 98.5 BB
SB: 277 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 66.94 BB
MP: 117.18 BB
CO: 123.22 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 9 T 6
Hero checks, CO bets 2.62 BB, Hero calls 2.62 BB

Turn: (10.74 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (10.74 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 7.66 BB, CO raises to 26.8 BB, Hero calls 19.14 BB



H6: I can't believe people call a 33bb 4-bet pre-flop just to try to hit a pair/draw. It increases the EV of my line by an insane amount lol.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 159.6 BB
SB: 123.88 BB
BB: 97.86 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 146.54 BB
CO: 94 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, MP raises to 8.46 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 7.96 BB, fold, Hero raises to 34.84 BB, MP calls 26.38 BB, SB calls 26.38 BB

Flop: (105.52 BB, 3 players) 6 J 2
SB checks, Hero bets 65.16 BB and is all-in, MP raises to 111.7 BB and is all-in, fold

Turn: (235.84 BB, 2 players) 4

River: (235.84 BB, 2 players) 3



H7: lol

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 32.24 BB
Hero (BB): 101.5 BB
UTG: 179.62 BB
MP: 68.46 BB
CO: 284.32 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 5 7 A
Hero checks, BTN bets 1.72 BB, Hero calls 1.72 BB

Turn: (8.94 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (8.94 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BTN bets 10 BB, Hero raises to 31.38 BB, BTN calls 21.38 BB




Now some of the spew:

I Play also NL50z and I think you should work on your preflop Ranges!
H3: you should not Open J8s. But when you open this it should be your bottom Range and a ez fold vs a 3bet! as played Flop fold,Turn fold ans River fold!
H4: against 3bet Pre fold ( especialy vs MP)
H8: (22) flop..wtf? and Turn??
H9: (34s) Pre against 3bet ez fold... yes 3bet is to small but 34s is to bad....Flop: wtf again
H10(A8o)
What is this postflop, it Looks like random Button clicking.

Pretty sure that opening j8s and q9s utg is bad and flatting 3bets with them is awful. Flop call with the q9 pretty awful as well.

guy was a 3-betting machine and was 5-bet-jamming 100% and marked as a whale, it's not awesome, but meh, he probably makes a ton of mistakes post-flop.

Bankroll is at $1080

Some hands from today

H1: Some fish check this river with FH, I tanked a ton remembering how much I lost in my thin valuebets in the last 30kish hands, but in the end, decided to believe in the poker gods lol.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 114.42 BB
SB: 121.7 BB
Hero (BB): 112.86 BB
UTG: 142.16 BB
MP: 125.42 BB
CO: 200.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, fold, SB calls 5 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 2 players) 6 4 9
SB checks, Hero bets 9.28 BB, SB raises to 22 BB, Hero calls 12.72 BB

Turn: (57 BB, 2 players) 6
SB bets 28 BB, Hero calls 28 BB

River: (113 BB, 2 players) J
SB checks, Hero bets 56.86 BB and is all-in, SB calls 56.86 BB




H2: I usually don't minimize tables when throwing a big bluff, but this river overbet for 2x pot was agonizing, also villain had like a huge time bank, he used until the end. Amazing how I can make sick variance plays like that with 20 BI of BRM lol.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 298.1 BB
SB: 126.4 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 360.92 BB
MP: 109.66 BB
CO: 163.22 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 K

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.24 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.24 BB

Flop: (4.98 BB, 2 players) 5 3 6
Hero checks, BTN bets 1.62 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, BTN calls 4.38 BB

Turn: (16.98 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 12.1 BB, BTN calls 12.1 BB

River: (41.18 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 79.66 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 39.12 BB


H3:

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 102.18 BB
Hero (BB): 119.32 BB
UTG: 51.52 BB
MP: 110.52 BB
CO: 145.64 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 K

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 5 9 J
Hero checks, BTN bets 2.72 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, BTN calls 6.28 BB

Turn: (23.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 16.74 BB, BTN calls 16.74 BB

River: (56.98 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 40.6 BB, BTN calls 40.6 BB




H4: Vs nit, I thought about calling because people usually cbet all their draws, but recently in those B vs B situations people are calling me down a lot, so it's possible that they are checking a ton of Ax hands there for the SDV + induce and to bluff me out of the pot later. He also snap raised.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 106.14 BB
SB: 272.06 BB
Hero (BB): 101 BB
UTG: 49.92 BB
MP: 140.52 BB
CO: 109.68 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 T

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 2 5 8
SB checks, Hero bets 2.96 BB, SB calls 2.96 BB

Turn: (11.92 BB, 2 players) Q
SB checks, Hero bets 8.5 BB, SB raises to 29.5 BB, fold

SB wins 27.48 BB

H5: Who said NL50 didn't look like a nitfest?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 81.14 BB
SB: 235.14 BB
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 105.44 BB
MP: 31.74 BB
CO: 85.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) 2 4 9
BB checks, Hero bets 2.52 BB, BB calls 2.52 BB

Turn: (10.18 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets 7.26 BB, BB calls 7.26 BB

River: (24.7 BB, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets 15.48 BB, BB calls 15.48 BB

OK, so you still think it is +EV to call 3bets with J8, even when BTN 3bet UTG open. But, how the heck do you find it profitable opening that hand from UTG esp when you cosinder that you have very 3bet happy player to act? Please look carefully at H3, if you think about it a little bit it will explain you very very good why those plays with J8 are not good.

Preface: I was reading your blog before I joined, and say all of this as a colleague.

You used to have the worst fps of all time, to the point that your hh's were comical. You aren't as bad as your old posts, I was happy to see you turning it around, but it seems as if you're falling into old patterns.

I can relate to the sentiment towards coaching, as I've never had one myself (not knocking anyone's hustle). But if you're going this route, it's paramount that you're open to suggestions that your line of thinking is flawed. Players with winning samples at higher stakes give you good advice, you acknowledge that you're stubborn, then you defend every questionable play you post without even entertaining that you're wrong (publicly anyways). You're clearly a smart guy, which is obviously an advantage, but it can also be a hindrance in regard to ego; not necessarily towards 2p2 posters, but maybe the regs in your games. I.e. "These guys are dumb, I'm thinking above them, so I can profitably play this trash combo."

The short sessions may also be subconciously tilting your judgement in spots. It's possible the limited time is developing a sense of urgency where you have to win THIS hand, RIGHT now.

You also have a ridiculous image, so the ridiculous plays only compound blunders; to think the regs in your games haven't/aren't adjusting specifically to you is foolhardy.

Nothing personal; rooting for you. gl

As opposed to your mistake pre flop. Sounded like a great spot to not even open that hand utg to me.

Opening J8s and Q9s from UTG is bad vs people who are punishing me for opening those hands pre, so far, people aren't punishing me enough to open fold those, so I think it's fine to do that as an exploit, specially since people don't defend their BB a ton specially vs UTG opens. It's a really marginal opening on NL50z and I'm sure those are losing ones in pools where people 3-bet as much as they should.

Now, answering you seriously about the J8s call. It's the bottom of my range, easy fold, gg, you're right. The thing is that my history with that guy was of him 3-betting me like crazy(he had a 40% re-steal), also every time I 4-bet him, he insta jammed, I think it happened around 4-5 times. I thought there was a good chance he was just messing with me, trying to show off or that he thought he had a read that I would be super exploitable by 3-betting with any2 + 5-bet 100%.

Even though the call was bad, if I were right 30% of the time about my read that he was messing with me, then it turned out to be a decent play. I'm pretty optimistic and if I have a chance to take someone down, I'll do my best to do so. Now, looking back at the hand, it's better to fold it pre, folding even SCs with this guy behind, not efen RFI those hands when the guy is in the table.

thanks for the input

Yeah, when I see my old posts, I get what people were saying "you must be a troll account" lol. My posts/hands/thoughts were ridiculous back then haha.

And yeah, it seems that even though I'm capable of managing really big tilts and huge spews, I still make a ton of questionable plays and FPS like crazy. But I think it's ok to make one big bluff in a while on NL50z, also playing an aggressive game and focus on redline is optimal in those stakes. It's a fold rich environment, people aren't giving me reasons to stop messing with them. Most of the guys that were giving me reasons I have marked and I play a very straightforward strategy vs them, so they're valueowing themselves.

but yeah, gotta work on that mental game. Also I play after studying 4-6h, so I'm not in my 100% best shape(law is so annoying and boring lol). Taking some time in the swimming pool just to chill out has helped me a ton in relaxing before playing.

btw, recorded a session for mixgrill's stream but I wasn't selected, so if anyone is interested in watching, gg. You guys will see that I'm not as crazy as I look in those hands. Watched it again and I was looking like a nit lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KRirYpPDEU

So your counter to someone messing with you is flatting 3bets oop with crappy hands? Lol. Here I was thinking you should just tighten your range and value town him. You seem to have classic bad reg mentality imo, thinking you have an edge on the pool while flatting 3bets with crappy hands. This is basic stuff.

I would re-read this paragraph a couple of times if I were you, Rapid.

I'm all for exploiting nits in the pools, but hands like J8s/Q9s from UTG just aren't good enough to begin with in, idk 99% of the tables you'll face? To open UTG that wide when there's a 25% 3bettor that has position on you is just asking for trouble. At the very least, if we are getting 3b, we're OOP with something like the bottom of our opening range, then stop the calling. These spots are bleeding so many BB's.

I really think you need to cut some hands from your preflop range, your RFI numbers must be high through the roof with these hands. I agree that there are nits in the pools that we should deviate from std ranges against, by sometimes, adding a lot of hands but it seems to me that you do this way too often, and underestimate your opponents, just remember there are five other players at your table that also gets dealt cards, it's not about winning any third hand that gets dealt or outplaying your opponents at all costs.

Q9s is an auto open if your RFI is more than 18%, which is not that loose from UTG, rather standard. J8s is a bit more dicey, but still not a particularly loose open.

btw, my friend that I taught how to play poker came back to playing and is having a tough time on NL10/NL16, I'll play today a session on NL16 and will record it for him, I'll post it later on youtube to help anyone struggling in those stakes.

I'll comment in portuguese, but it will be a simple strat: play tight, underbluff and fold a lot.

Mental leaks itt still

it's the hardest part of poker, man.
I'm trying to overcome that weakness of mine.