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Old 03-14-2019, 10:30 AM   #6426
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I think I'll never understand this. Why do you keep on stating things like if they were undeniable facts? Do you have any black and white data to back it up?
He was folding >60% otr and has a lot of 2p and possibly all straights and set combos, if he starts folding Kx my valuebet becomes bad very fast. Just think about which hands in his range he can call me with and which heat me. Is a fold-happy guy stationing me down with all Tx?
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:41 AM   #6427
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That wasnt my point tho. You might actually be right about this spot, I honestly dont know.
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:50 AM   #6428
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You only look at the part I ran well at 200z, but forget I've always ran like aids at 100z for 140k hands (-2.7bbev over that sample). Chaotic is obv a player I don't respect much because he posts graphs only when he is winning and out of nowhere he disappears and say he is playing nl25, but all graphs he posts he is beating nl200+ for 10bbs.

There's no way a fold happy fish will call me with worse >50% on that texture if I bet big
You ran well at 200z in the beggining then lost it all back if i remember correctly, when you were unlikely to be +ev there. While you probably dont have -2,7bb at 100z you were ay best a very small winner there.

if you follow chaotic thread you can see him playing midstakes and making more money than you, which is something to respect imo, but even if you dont, the guy just showed up and politely tried to give advice on a hand and you replied like a little ***** who cant stand different opinions. (Not saying i agree with chaotic analysis of the hand)
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:51 AM   #6429
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That wasnt my point tho. You might actually be right about this spot, I honestly dont know.
Nobody is 100%, but I trust my logic in that spot, gotta think about what calls us down vs which sizings when playing vs fish. Tbh given how tight he is I wouldn't be surprised if x/f KQ would be best in there, when people fold too much their range becomes exponentially stronger very quickly, specially on boards that just connect more and more.

There's a huge difference between someone's range after defending a triple barrel if they fold 50%/50%/50% than if they fold 60%/60%/60%. The 50% guy gets to the river with a 12% range and 60% guy with 6%(not considering turn/flop raises).
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:56 AM   #6430
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lol well this is fun, i open this thread like once a week for the lulz and...

@Jose we seem to think the same yet rapi knows population tendencies much better than us (sorry rapi).

@rapi If you see my thread the first page was me basically losing and being tilted at 400nl, but yes i do prefer to make money than play zoom! good observation there!
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:56 AM   #6431
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I doubt your sample is relevent enough on a fish to draw any conclusion about what he will and will not call, that said I don't hate the sizing with AA, think a fish may call a 2/3 bet just as often with his Kx though
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:02 AM   #6432
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H4: vs passive fish that folded much, I was range checking but remembered of the discussion we had here haha. Good sizing OTR? I feel like this guy has so many 2p combos and nutted **** and with his folding tendencies couldn't see myself getting called by worse if I had bet big(I rarely have this thought process btw). Also check-calling is terrible and check-folding seems bad, but better than betting big or check-calling imo. So went for the small bet-fold.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.82 BB
SB: 103 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 34.58 BB
MP: 106.26 BB
CO: 162.82 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, BTN calls 4 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 5 T 9
Hero bets 5.18 BB, BTN calls 5.18 BB

Turn: (20.86 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 14.86 BB, BTN calls 14.86 BB

River: (50.58 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 14 BB, BTN calls 14 BB

Spoiler:
Don't range check fish. Bet your big hands for value, check your weak hands and hope to get to showdown cheaply. You can even do this against many regs, until they figure out what you're doing.

I'm amazed it took you this long to figure out how to beat fish, and only after about 20 people in this thread telling you. How were you playing against fish before now?
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:06 AM   #6433
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stop giving advice spinmerightaround you don't beat anything online
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:21 AM   #6434
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Don't range check fish. Bet your big hands for value, check your weak hands and hope to get to showdown cheaply. You can even do this against many regs, until they figure out what you're doing.

I'm amazed it took you this long to figure out how to beat fish, and only after about 20 people in this thread telling you. How were you playing against fish before now?
I knew that already and did it a lot, but playing a more balanced approach OOP is easier and it reduces the amount of decisions/stress per session, increasing the quality of play in all other spots for me.

It's easy for you guys to say that it's a no brainer cbet, but I already think too much on almost any spots in ways you probably don't, so I burnout way faster.
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:40 AM   #6435
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He was folding >60% otr and has a lot of 2p and possibly all straights and set combos, if he starts folding Kx my valuebet becomes bad very fast. Just think about which hands in his range he can call me with and which heat me. Is a fold-happy guy stationing me down with all Tx?
What is your sample size?
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:09 PM   #6436
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What is your sample size?
Reliable otf/otr, otr I'm not sure, will look later and post here, probably 6/10. Lots of nitfish put tons of volume at 50z, therw's a nitfish I have 4k hands on btw (and he folds 7% to 3-bets over that sample haha)
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:05 PM   #6437
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Nobody is 100%, but I trust my logic in that spot, gotta think about what calls us down vs which sizings when playing vs fish. Tbh given how tight he is I wouldn't be surprised if x/f KQ would be best in there, when people fold too much their range becomes exponentially stronger very quickly, specially on boards that just connect more and more.

There's a huge difference between someone's range after defending a triple barrel if they fold 50%/50%/50% than if they fold 60%/60%/60%. The 50% guy gets to the river with a 12% range and 60% guy with 6%(not considering turn/flop raises).
Your sample is not even close to being big enough for stuff like this. Also if a fish is folding Kx on the river here for 2/3 I am just going to quit poker because the games truly are dead.
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:43 PM   #6438
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Your sample is not even close to being big enough for stuff like this. Also if a fish is folding Kx on the river here for 2/3 I am just going to quit poker because the games truly are dead.
There are fish that overcall and fish that overfold, the majority I play against at 50z is overfold fish, we can print a lot of bbs vs someone who plays like that even after the rake, it's fine. There are other ways of making money at poker other than underbluffing and hoping to get called by worse most of the time.
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:39 PM   #6439
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Mirage at least was funny, even though he was annoying he had some really good jokes, now mzbourg is always annoying and has 0 good jokes.



Deservedly banned haha

I never try to be funny. Dont see how “you should bet 3 streets vs a passive fish” could ever be funny. Though if you take the last page you can see literally everyone is saying what I’ve said many times before. Call it trolling or bad comedy. I call it facts.

How is -2.7evbb/100 over 140k hands running bad?
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:41 PM   #6440
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Stop being so rude and arrogant, you talk way too much for someone who cant get past 100z after years playig poker (sunrunning to 200z and back doesnt count).
It is ridiculous to see you disrespect a better player than you trying to help like this.
Frankly this ye
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:18 PM   #6441
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I knew that already and did it a lot, but playing a more balanced approach OOP is easier and it reduces the amount of decisions/stress per session, increasing the quality of play in all other spots for me.

It's easy for you guys to say that it's a no brainer cbet, but I already think too much on almost any spots in ways you probably don't, so I burnout way faster.
You should barely need to think against fish. They play very face-up and do not exploit you.

I would be burning out too if I had to play balanced poker against a bunch of nitregs while paying 10bb/100 in rake.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:17 PM   #6442
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I never try to be funny. Dont see how “you should bet 3 streets vs a passive fish” could ever be funny. Though if you take the last page you can see literally everyone is saying what I’ve said many times before. Call it trolling or bad comedy. I call it facts.

How is -2.7evbb/100 over 140k hands running bad?
You can get ****ed on non-ev spots, you know? It's very likely that I win at 100z and I always get owned there, can't move up if all my shots go bad. Ofc you always use variance in your favor saying I ran hot at 200z (with some good regs saying I played well btw), but ran as expected at 100z.

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You should barely need to think against fish. They play very face-up and do not exploit you.

I would be burning out too if I had to play balanced poker against a bunch of nitregs while paying 10bb/100 in rake.
I played very explo that hand, made it smaller only for value so a part of his range would call while folding 100% vs his raise.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:30 PM   #6443
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I'm starting to think Rapidesh is a high functioning autist
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:46 PM   #6444
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You can get ****ed on non-ev spots, you know? It's very likely that I win at 100z and I always get owned there, can't move up if all my shots go bad. Ofc you always use variance in your favor saying I ran hot at 200z (with some good regs saying I played well btw), but ran as expected at 100z.



You ran as expected at 200z too. That’s why you are back at 50z. Given Finland22’s mental state I wouldnt listen too much to anything he says.

Fwiw. Up until last week you werent capable of playing the most trivial spot in poker correctly. Yet somehow you’re a 200z crusher who has just been running bad his whole life?
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:58 PM   #6445
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Why is it written "Failed micro reg" under your name, young jedi..?
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:04 PM   #6446
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Why is it written "Failed micro reg" under your name, young jedi..?

I’m widely known as the failed micro reg. Thats why.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:06 PM   #6447
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It's easy for you guys to say that it's a no brainer cbet, but I already think too much on almost any spots in ways you probably don't, so I burnout way faster.
If only you put as much thought into your posts on 2+2 we would not have to read this drivel at such a high frequency
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:00 PM   #6448
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lol at thinking @ 50nl
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:06 PM   #6449
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What is your sample size?
This was the guy, had 5k+ hands on him, actually he defended his river cbets very often(which is probably because of his very tight flop and turn folds), I looked mostly at the fold to bet stat because it had way more sample.

That's the average fish that plays 50z



Going bigger could be better vs this guy, but on that texture I'm not sure, on more brickish rivers I would easily go bigger.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:31 PM   #6450
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There are fish that overcall and fish that overfold, the majority I play against at 50z is overfold fish, we can print a lot of bbs vs someone who plays like that even after the rake, it's fine. There are other ways of making money at poker other than underbluffing and hoping to get called by worse most of the time.
When will you peform this ways ?
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