lol 3betting ATo 100%

Not sure how you were interpreting my comment, but imo flatting preflop with 7 high OOP vs a 4b with garbage rake at micros, among a multitude of other reasons, is not +EV

I expect this to be optimal in most pools SB vs BTN 2x.

Vs people who open 40-50%+ OTB and don't fight back enough with 4b bluffs (ie flat hands like A2s-A5s that should be 4bs and 4-betting a lot more bluffs), ATo is definitely a clear 3b over call from SB.

"In the toughest games" I'm sure calling w/ A10o, sandwiched between a reg OTB and BB, is more lol.

I think it depends all on your sb strat: if you want to overcomplicate it and add calls you will be able to play ATo profitably as a call because your opponents won't squeeze as much(because you'te not capped and will have backraises) and ATo plays well vs btn's range. Even if villains keep squeezing light, then your AT will underrealize but your backraises will overrealize.

I don't like having a balanced cc range from the SB because 4bb/100 is still a reasonably high rake that will reduce the EV of your range and BB will often misplay by cc too much, which increases the EV of btn in the hand by a lot while SB loses lots of EV vs that.

if you dont have a flatting range from small blind you should consider folding ATo some of the time at least, unless you are playing super weak players I guess

vs 2x you should most definitely be flatting some hands including but not limited to ATo

I dont play micros but I dont see how it would be fine at higher stakes but worse at micros where people make more mistakes postflop, rake isnt enough to go from 100% call to 0%

Roll is at $3.3k, ran really well at 50z! Ended up playing because I didn't have anything else to do and just wanted to click some buttons haha

Some hands

H1: villain going for the vaaaaaamo haha

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100.5 BB
SB: 52.24 BB
BB: 134.6 BB
UTG: 126.92 BB
MP: 124.76 BB
CO: 279.44 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 7

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) T T 6
CO checks, Hero bets 4.82 BB, CO raises to 9.64 BB, Hero calls 4.82 BB

Turn: (38.78 BB, 2 players) 2
CO bets 18.42 BB, Hero calls 18.42 BB

River: (75.62 BB, 2 players) A
CO bets 53 BB, Hero calls 53 BB




H2: massive spew by me, I rep nothing, I decided to 3-bet because this guy was defending the river a lot and was raising a lot, but he could be overdefending his checking back range while overbluffing turn. Even vs overbluffs this kind of **** is terrible because I need to be right a lot, terrible. And few people balance their small bets, so it's likely that it's a spazz. Also I don't see many reasons to balance the small sizing because most people don't raise that thin anyway

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 275.72 BB
SB: 130.3 BB
Hero (BB): 135.44 BB
UTG: 181.66 BB
MP: 301.46 BB
CO: 100.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q J

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (5.3 BB, 2 players) T 4 2
Hero checks, CO bets 1.56 BB, Hero calls 1.56 BB

Turn: (8.42 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (8.42 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 2.08 BB, CO raises to 14.24 BB, Hero raises to 41.6 BB, CO calls 27.36 BB



H3: vs random fish lol. I was thinking about folding but meh, these guys can have flushes in there, I was even thinking "jesus, did I finally find a bluff raise OTR here?" before calling!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 128.64 BB
Hero (BB): 136.28 BB
UTG: 495.62 BB
MP: 281.4 BB
CO: 407 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 4

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 8 5 2
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 4.08 BB, CO calls 4.08 BB

River: (14.66 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 10.44 BB, CO raises to 33 BB, Hero calls 22.56 BB




H4: I was raising his donk, but when he 2x it I think it's likely that he has like the nuts trying to play a line with 0 sense, what do you guys think? I folded because I had the As, which blocked his most likely bluffs, without it I think I was calling

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 18.4 BB
SB: 114.6 BB
BB: 137.12 BB
Hero (UTG): 118.12 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 117.14 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) 5 K 2
BB checks, Hero bets 1.26 BB, BB calls 1.26 BB

Turn: (7.66 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 5.46 BB, BB calls 5.46 BB

River: (18.58 BB, 2 players) 7
BB bets 36 BB, fold

BB wins 17.66 BB


H5: station!! vaaaaaaaaaamo!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 232.28 BB
Hero (SB): 106.82 BB
BB: 101.48 BB
UTG: 347.12 BB
MP: 59.32 BB
CO: 207.74 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 3 6 2
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: (6 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BB bets 3.14 BB, Hero calls 3.14 BB

River: (12.28 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BB bets 6.42 BB, Hero calls 6.42 BB




H6: That moment when you know the guy is never bluffing and you have to tank a bit to keep the other guy in the pot haha!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 117.56 BB
SB: 70.62 BB
BB: 101.24 BB
Hero (UTG): 111.78 BB
MP: 431.4 BB
CO: 54.08 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 A

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, CO calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (7.46 BB, 3 players) 5 2 8
BB checks, Hero bets 1.84 BB, CO calls 1.84 BB, BB calls 1.84 BB

Turn: (12.98 BB, 3 players) 6
BB checks, Hero bets 9.26 BB, CO calls 9.26 BB, BB raises to 22 BB, Hero calls 12.74 BB, CO raises to 49.92 BB and is all-in, BB raises to 97.08 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 75.08 BB



H7:good fold? Dat minraise -.-

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 88.86 BB
SB: 321.7 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 401.88 BB
MP: 28.56 BB
CO: 110.36 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 J

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 8 8 Q
SB checks, Hero bets 4.28 BB, SB calls 4.28 BB

Turn: (14.56 BB, 2 players) 9
SB checks, Hero bets 10.38 BB, SB raises to 21.76 BB, Hero calls 11.38 BB

River: (58.08 BB, 2 players) K
SB bets 55 BB, fold

SB wins 55.18 BB


H8: good call? 9x helps him a lot in there OTT, but I think he could bluff some in there and my blockers are good

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101 BB
Hero (SB): 193.76 BB
BB: 197.18 BB
UTG: 205.76 BB
MP: 107.94 BB
CO: 83.26 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 9 K T
Hero bets 1.48 BB, BB calls 1.48 BB

Turn: (8.96 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BB bets 5.62 BB, Hero calls 5.62 BB

River: (20.2 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BB bets 12.68 BB, Hero calls 12.68 BB

With the SPR of a 4bet pot the positional disadvantage is negated a fair amount. Not saying this is a definite call, but the lower the SPR the closer your EV becomes to your equity.

lol. im actually gonna bite here, but srsly, what you do with ATo from the SB vs a BTN open depends a lot from BTNs RFI, open size , and what kind of player BB is , being that in a vacuum vs lets say a min raise folding is by far the worst option and 3betting and flatting are really close EV ..



but guess im far behind the curve, when "it's not" its the answer to such a close spot .........

H1: usually a bad calldown against the average opponent at these stakes

H2: fold flop. you shouldn't have even got to the river.

H3: shove river, he reps no full houses and has worse hands that will call. lmao @ you even considering folding.

H4: lol if he's value betting K7 and you folded the best hand. for 2x pot, probably fold.

H5: that's actually a fairly easy call-call with ace high. the fact you think it's a vamoo moment shows you haven't learned very much in 7 years of playing poker.

H8: this ace high call was horrible, however.

all hands look reasonable except the reraise river with QJo

rake + quality of the players I'm pretty sure negates any desire to flat at 25nl (+ simplicity benefit of 3b or fold).

I dunno I believe people make more mistakes against SB cold call ranges than they do playing vs 3bets nowadays

My plan today was to just run some sims and to not play because I was in bad mood and didn't sleep well, ended up running the sim and sweating a friend and decided to play lol. Quality of play was low, made a lot of mistakes, roll still at $3.3k

Some hands

H1: the guy that folded OTR was brazilian, he tanked like crazy lol. That's not the type of fold you expect a brazilian to make, wp!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 103.32 BB
SB: 90.06 BB
Hero (BB): 105.78 BB
UTG: 101.5 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 102.34 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q J

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (7.5 BB, 3 players) 4 Q K
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets 2.36 BB, SB calls 2.36 BB, Hero calls 2.36 BB

Turn: (14.58 BB, 3 players) J
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets 9 BB, SB calls 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

River: (41.58 BB, 3 players) J
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets 21 BB, SB calls 21 BB, Hero raises to 91.92 BB and is all-in, fold, SB calls 55.2 BB and is all-in



H2: vs reg that loves defending 3-bets, take that! I decided to make that play because I want to check turn sometimes with some overpairs and since people stab more than pio but won't continue OTR as much for thin value/bluffs, x/j becomes way better than x/c with our slowplays, so need some bluffs and this one seemed apropriate.



PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 224.54 BB
Hero (SB): 103.06 BB
BB: 131.04 BB
UTG: 77.5 BB
MP: 501.26 BB
CO: 101.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, BTN calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 5 T 5
Hero bets 10.38 BB, BTN calls 10.38 BB

Turn: (41.76 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BTN bets 14.5 BB, Hero raises to 82.68 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 67.22 BB


H3: vs unknown fish, meh, I have 0 clue on this one. I feel like those guys overcbet the flop but won't go super thin for value, but his sizing seemed value heavy. My blockers are bad but not terrible. Should I fold the river?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58 BB
SB: 146.04 BB
Hero (BB): 106.24 BB
UTG: 189.62 BB
MP: 99.58 BB
CO: 161.56 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) K A 9
Hero checks, BTN bets 3.1 BB, Hero calls 3.1 BB

Turn: (12.7 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN bets 6.04 BB, Hero calls 6.04 BB

River: (24.78 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN bets 11.78 BB, Hero calls 11.78 BB



H4: whale snap jammed, I had 0 clue in what his range was, I've seen people show up with 24ss for 200bbs in a similar spot lol. Do you guys call? I thought that he would at least think a bit with his nutted combos and that he could have some protection Ax.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 62.52 BB
UTG: 111.24 BB
MP: 246.52 BB
CO: 102.56 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, BB calls 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 3 players) 5 A 8
Hero bets 2.96 BB, BB raises to 58.52 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 55.56 BB

Turn: (129.04 BB, 2 players) 8

River: (129.04 BB, 2 players) 5



H5: lol, sad to see that =(

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 105.2 BB
SB: 33.22 BB
BB: 209.56 BB
UTG: 78.94 BB
MP: 97.38 BB
Hero (CO): 127.04 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BTN calls 2.32 BB, SB calls 1.82 BB, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (9.28 BB, 4 players) Q 8 A
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (9.28 BB, 4 players) K
SB checks, BB bets 5.3 BB, Hero raises to 19.86 BB, fold, SB raises to 30.9 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 11.04 BB

River: (76.38 BB, 2 players) 6



H6: very bad bluff by me, specially since this guy was calling me light overall and my line reps only TT, but I think PIO could show up here with some AK/Qx too, but it isn't expected for me to have that to raise the river. What do you guys think of playing AK like that? OTT I think I have to check a lot

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 109.08 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 183.98 BB
UTG: 124.34 BB
MP: 115.56 BB
CO: 110.24 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) Q 2 A
Hero bets 1.48 BB, BB calls 1.48 BB

Turn: (8.96 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BB checks

River: (8.96 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BB bets 6.22 BB, Hero raises to 27.18 BB, BB calls 20.96 BB




H7: vs nit

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 205.62 BB
SB: 128.16 BB
Hero (BB): 146.34 BB
UTG: 121.34 BB
MP: 249.6 BB
CO: 118.96 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A T

UTG raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.48 BB

Flop: (5.46 BB, 2 players) 6 9 2
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: (5.46 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 7.14 BB, UTG calls 7.14 BB

River: (19.74 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 4.88 BB, UTG raises to 26.56 BB, Hero calls 21.68 BB




H8: I was calling this guy on like all turns but this one, he snap checked turn and snap jammed river. Villain was obv a whale, but that Qx hits him so hard since these guys love going for protection OTF and they are afraid of the flush OTT/love to trap flushes too, so I made the hero fold. I used to jam the flop but now I see that it's bad, gotta just call OTF to keep their bluffs imo

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 125.74 BB
SB: 105 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 101 BB
Hero (CO): 103.56 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 8 BB, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (27.5 BB, 3 players) 6 Q 8
BB bets 26.12 BB, fold, Hero calls 26.12 BB

Turn: (79.74 BB, 2 players) Q
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (79.74 BB, 2 players) 6
BB bets 64.88 BB and is all-in, fold

BB wins 75.76 BB

lol indeed.

That'a my new plan: to plan better plans haha

Playing poker is so fun, it's so intetesting since I started calling people/taking a more explo approach, it's a totally different game, soooo exciting!

When I quit in 2014 I was forcing myself to play, it was so miserable. Now I do my best to find any extra time in my schedule to play haha. I obv don't take hours from my studies/going out with friends.

Play on tilt more as an exploit imo.

KQo is a punt, if you wanna do that which is alright, do it with QJ instead

I didn't see that JQs has a gutshot in there, yeah, should definitely do it only with those. Also my combo was very bad: I was blocking AQcc,KQcc and KQss, if I want to do it with KQ it should be only KQhh or at least with the Qh which unblocks more floats that will auto-fold

But I don't mind overbluffing there vs a decent reg, population massively underbluffs on that texture that has no flush draws.

We are witnessing a forum metagame evolution, dear friends. The word "punt" is being punted all over the place. Left & right.

Also 2nd word is "accountable" we see that in half of the PGC thread titles. Someone please tell me what it means?

If a Jew got exterminated every time Rapidesh posts a "punted" HH, it would be a true genocide...

Before I hop to bed - how do you call a Brazilian who goes in space?

If you asked me what I'd call a Brazilian who goes into space without a suit I'd say rapidesh123.

H1: nh

H2: meeeh, i do not like but you had your reasons and might be fine on lower freq.

H3: am i to tight folding this on turn already? well betsizing is a bit on the lower side and we get actually good odds but i see myself always losing this spot...

H4: yeah this is dicy. very rarely u see weaker Ax doing this but most of the time this is two pair+. flushdraws i don't think he ever has, these players just peel for all the draws and playing quite passive. folding is fine in these spots.

H5: is this a PIO play? i fold here

H6: mixing in some AK here seems good, i like it

H7: nh

H8: very ul turns, good fold then. understand your reasoning for just calling but SPR is so small already to eezy get it in. with this sizing i don't think you will ever fold out draws so happy jamming here.

Yeah, should have folded H4

H5 isn't a pio play, pio doesn't play mw, but in a hu pot I can see JQ being bluffed there, just not with the Js since we want villain to have it. Mw I like the Js since it reduces the chance of someone having some gutshot+FD/AJss that could jam on us or overcall IP. It's just a buttonclick on this one but I like it, we could have some 2p/KK in there going for value