This is purposely misleading, right? I can understand nitting it up and folding pre, especially if the players left to act are good, but everything else you said is complete garbage.

You think checking turn drawing to the 2nd nuts 3 way would be the highest ev play? 'nitting up' = folding k2? Poker aint dead yet. lul

Why do you bet the flop? your hand is crap (I do not want to say that this bad, I just do not understand)

Betting the turn seems suicidal

IMO the open is whatever, the cbet is not great vs decent opposition. As played the turn check is std and the river bet should be for a normal sizing. I don't think bet calling riv is gonna be better vs anyone then either check calling check folding or bet folding for a 2/3 sizing. As for the turn check I feel like having a hand that can call turn comfortably and win when river goes check check on a blank or betcall/checkraise a flush river depending on turn action +call/valuebet blank rivers after turn checks through is pretty good.

Why do you think the cbet is not good on a board were we have range advantage? Don't see that we sacrifice here a lot of EV by betting with almost 100% freq. for a small sizing compared to a more complex cbet strategy where we split our range, even vs decent opposition at 100z.

you said "should just open K7s+ in theory"

that is wrong, line is K3s+ from CO, not K7s, it's even K5s+ from HJ, you can be tighter and do K4s+ from CO and K6s+ from HJ though

What's the open raise size for these hands?

It's obviously not bad. But multiway oop to 1 player I dont think tightening the ranges we get to the turn with is necessarily worth the protection/value we get by betting. Multiway with our wide co range with buttons fairly tight range in the mix our value range is narrower so rangebetting is not as std as it would be in co vs bb scenario.

I don't think Our range can protection bet mid pocket pairs and strong ace highs so we are checking a good amount and I would assume this would lead us to want to have some hands we can defend to floats and probes on various runouts. Lets say we check button bets 1/3 bb folds and the turn brings a bdfd, not having any strong pair +fd hands means button can expand his overbet for value/bluff range to fold out essentially our entire range.

Sorry did not see it is multiway.

Thin value/equity denial, The good thing about that small sizing is that I can valuebet TT-QQ if I want and deny lots of equity vs 2 players too . Betting or checking turn are fine, with this kicker mw I prefer to x back.

I'm not betting 100% of my range vs 2 people. That would be really bad, since the chances they got something good combining their ranges is way higher and I wouldn't be able to defend vs x/r correctly.

Thanks! I dont have all ranges memorized yet. I wonder how k2s would perform in a 7bb/100 rake environment, how tight should I go with that rake?

We don't need to protect our x back range that much vs probes because we have another player in the pot protecting it for us
That's how I view mw poker, we gotta use the other players as a shield to protect our equity, deny as much equity otf as possible, polarize turn/river and use one player to leverage our fold equity vs the other one. If I cbet, IP won't be able to defend really well because there's the risk of bb squeezing him or just overcalling with a better hand.

So you never check turn drawing to a flush? That makes life really easy for your opponents

Poker will never be dead as long as guys like you continue to play. And now you go on ignore so I don't have to listen to your trolling/terrible strat, whatever it is

Thx for that. It made me laugh. Not a bad strat tho, although I assume your sizings are ****ed ott and otr and will not 1.5-2x pot KQ+ vs bb if button folds.

If you think about multiway defense theoretically and study frequencies regs defend vs different sizings you will realize some things about reality that will make you some gwalla

2.5x

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you could make some godmoding vs the other guy and make him fold while betting bigger and call while betting smaller, as well as other shenanigans, but I like keeping the first streets of poker(preflop-flop) as balanced as I can so I can save my exploits by the river. I think that going explo OTF is terrible because it's a street that happens very often and villain can realize very easily what we're doing within a reasonable sample size, while you can play thousands of hands vs someone while playing explo strats OTR and they won't even have close to enough sample to realize what you're doing.

Also as I said, I'm extremely dumb in mind games, I prefer to rely on my math skills and knowledge of the game and let villains make the mistakes they wanna make by trying to guess if I'm trying to explo them. I can't beat nathana2, quasselinho, notacatok?, abiens abi! by trying to outguess them, all of those have insane natural talent for poker and are very smart with getting into people's minds. The only way I can beat those guys is by relying on my knowledge of theory(if even with that I can be +EV vs them after rake). By playing their games I'm just letting myself play their game with a big disadvantage, since they're way better at it than I am.

Which is exactly what we're doing vs him and BB after we get calls? First his 33% will have to get through an uncapped range(BB) OTF so he can do that OTT, so he isn't automatically going in auto-profit mode vs that. Even in SRP pots it's not as useful to protect checking ranges because most people won't punish that. In mw pots, even less, since they have way less incentive to attack those ranges in the first place.

And the reason why he would develop an overbetting range in that spot wouldn't be to get folds vs our range, but to get max value(unpunished by our capped range, because the nutted combos in our range limit how big his betsize can be), in reality what happens is that most people end up overfolding and his bluffs end up over realizing.

Yeah, I "**** it up" OTT and don't overbet in there

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 125.94 BB
SB: 194.13 BB
BB: 194.62 BB
UTG: 100 BB
Hero (MP): 101.5 BB
CO: 103.99 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 1.82 BB, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (6.96 BB, 3 players) 6 A 4
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 2.19 BB, SB calls 2.19 BB, BB calls 2.19 BB

Turn: (13.52 BB, 3 players) 2
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 17.72 BB, fold, fold

Hero wins 12.84 BB


PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 78.35 BB
SB: 135.5 BB
BB: 176.11 BB
UTG: 60.71 BB
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 162.92 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (7.46 BB, 3 players) 7 3 2
BB checks, Hero bets 2.35 BB, fold, BB calls 2.35 BB

Turn: (12.15 BB, 2 players) 5
BB checks, Hero bets 15.93 BB, fold

Hero wins 11.54 BB


PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 137.08 BB
SB: 133.66 BB
BB: 220.67 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 107.48 BB
CO: 101.26 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (7.46 BB, 3 players) 5 8 5
BB checks, Hero bets 2.35 BB, BTN calls 2.35 BB, fold

Turn: (12.15 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 15.93 BB, BTN calls 15.93 BB

River: (44 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 22.17 BB, BTN calls 22.17 BB

Hero shows Q Q (Full House, Fives full of Queens)
(Pre 69%, Flop 86%, Turn 91%)
BTN mucks A 9 (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 31%, Flop 14%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins 86.96 BB


PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 101 BB
SB: 146.59 BB
BB: 122.38 BB
UTG: 75.58 BB
MP: 192.24 BB
CO: 69.28 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 6

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB calls 1.82 BB, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (6.96 BB, 3 players) J 8 K
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 2.19 BB, SB calls 2.19 BB, BB calls 2.19 BB

Turn: (13.52 BB, 3 players) 3
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 17.72 BB, fold, fold

Hero wins 12.84 BB

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 164.73 BB
SB: 87.88 BB
BB: 111.72 BB
UTG: 136.22 BB
Hero (MP): 126.38 BB
CO: 113.51 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, CO calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (7.46 BB, 3 players) 3 T 8
BB checks, Hero bets 2.35 BB, CO calls 2.35 BB, fold

Turn: (12.15 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 15.93 BB, fold

Hero wins 11.54 BB


PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 126.92 BB
SB: 201.97 BB
BB: 158.96 BB
UTG: 349.97 BB
MP: 198.13 BB
CO: 346.83 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) 6 6 6
BB checks, Hero bets 1.62 BB, BB calls 1.62 BB

Turn: (8.37 BB, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero bets 15 BB, fold

Hero wins 7.95 BB


PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 84.26 BB
SB: 126.48 BB
BB: 101.35 BB
UTG: 108.96 BB
MP: 101.12 BB
Hero (CO): 101.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, SB calls 1.82 BB, fold

Flop: (5.64 BB, 2 players) K 3 5
SB checks, Hero bets 1.78 BB, SB calls 1.78 BB

Turn: (9.19 BB, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets 17 BB, fold

Hero wins 8.73 BB


PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 61.78 BB
SB: 101.5 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 190.84 BB
MP: 139.16 BB
CO: 209.19 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J T

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) 2 2 T
SB checks, Hero bets 2.52 BB, SB calls 2.52 BB

Turn: (13.03 BB, 2 players) 2
SB checks, Hero bets 13 BB, SB calls 13 BB

River: (39.03 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 80.49 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 37.66 BB


PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 185.79 BB
SB: 46.19 BB
BB: 203.55 BB
Hero (UTG): 106.95 BB
MP: 315.26 BB
CO: 40.56 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) 8 7 T
BB checks, Hero bets 4.39 BB, BB calls 4.39 BB

Turn: (13.92 BB, 2 players) 4
BB checks, Hero bets 18.24 BB, BB calls 18.24 BB

River: (50.4 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets 82 BB and is all-in, BB calls 82 BB



PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 104.92 BB
SB: 116.86 BB
BB: 350.64 BB
UTG: 201.74 BB
MP: 104.5 BB
CO: 141.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) 4 5 T
BB checks, Hero bets 1.26 BB, BB calls 1.26 BB

Turn: (7.66 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets 10.04 BB, BB calls 10.04 BB

River: (27.74 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets 19.78 BB, BB calls 19.78 BB




Even if I didn't overbet turn, it wouldn't be a "**** up", it would be only a small mistake in theory and maybe even higher EV in practice vs population tendencies. You underestimate me, bro!

vaaaaaaaaamoo!

OK boss. Now we are onto something.
some of these overbets are great some are marginal and some are really bad. Some are theoretically good but exploitatively bad.
I know you are smart enough to know which fit in each category.

Put that knowledge into practise and u will gain at least 0.5bb/100 on your winrate.

edit at least 2bb/100 LOL

VAMOOOO

"you will at least double your winrate" sounds better.

JK, but kinda true

you have to check more OOP

QKo is bad even in theory lol, if suits were reversed I like it, in practice it's probably bad even with the right suits.

46hh is just a x/f OTF, was too wide OTF

AA it's good vs that guy, in theory always good without the club

AQcc is better in a 75% sizing

JQdd without the draw looks bad in practice and is terrible vs bad players, but it,'s by far the best bluff in all those I've posted vs very good regs. it's blockers are very strong fot brick rivers and by having that hand in our range we can find some bluffs on rivers where one of the flushes get there without blocking the other one that missed. In a vaccuum it's a -EV bluff OTT, but if you add how a good opponent will respond on a lot of rivers it recovers most of the EV lost OTT OTR.

Naa dude he's denying equity and polarizing turn.

VAMOOOO

I check more OOP HU than mw, because of the added value of knocking off IP from the pot, we have more incentive to play more hands aggressively because he has to worry about BB and won't be able to defend as much as he wants. If we manage to fold his equity and regain position OTT it's a big victory for our range.

I obv use a bigger cbet sizing OOP HU and smaller mw

By using that strat we use the fact that BB is in the pot to get some extra fold equity we wouldn't get HU, that's why for me it makes more sense to bet at a higher frequency OOP mw than HU.