This is what I don't understand - you raise trash all the time, then you just call with your sets? That is so easy to exploit. In fact, any reg with half a brain who has read this thread can see that whenever you fast play, 95% of the time you have air. When you slowplay, 95% of the time it's the nuts. Very easy to play against someone who does that.

In before a big wall of text full of nothingness trying to justify your actions.

Why does anyone still come in here and try and give advice, he didn’t listen to brokenstars he won’t listen to anybody, is a waste of time.
I understand mirage commenting because he has no life or friends and likes to take it out on people on the internet but clearly most have moved on from posting in here.

Thanks! So my theory is wrong, tough to know that, but it makes sense since IP can extract more value with his range.

22 is solid, PPs are very strong hands, specially when I'm playing with them haha!
That's something I've even said to brokenstars I wouldn't change: how I play with those 22-66. A good amount of the pool hate to fold vs me, so those hands overrealize when I flop a set, also my spider senses help me to avoid coolers too in spots villains aren't bluffing enough.

Yeah, it's so easy to exploit me that I must be lucky to not be busto after so many hands. In the first hand I already said it was a mistake, in the second I could raise small repping a mergy range OTF, but with one player behind(all regs) I see merit of playing my range as a call, specially IP.

KK you are trolling me, gg wp

When I rfi from utg/mp, my 22-77 are making more than AQo, KQo, AJo, all A2s-ATs, more than all SCs. And half of the sample of close to 500k hands was played on 100z-200z(but arguments can be made that they would overtealize at 100z). Basically it cpuld be translated that the hand rankings for me would be AA-KK>AK/QQ>88-JJ>suited broadways>22-77>rest of hands.

It could be that I overbluff with SCs and Axs suited and when I'm playing pps I don't bluff much and only valuebet when I hit a set, so it makes sense that they should overrealize. Also my bluffcatching skills were bad, which hurt Axs hands and KQo/AQo.

Pay for coaching, ignore for ego. At least you're consistent in who's advice you listen to (ie: no one's).

You lost 70% of your roll last month by not getting exploited easily, got it. Busto soon enough. But don't worry buddy, you'll get there.

yea don't call 22 from CO vs early, you're not making money there, unless there is a giant whale who punts postflop sitting in the bb

I listened to most of his advice, I don't play with pps like that because of ego,but because i think it's +EV. In theory they perform poorly ofc, but when you put into the equation that most of the people in the pool don't like making explo folds, don't raise flop enough and don't bluff enough; those pps perform way better. Also most people have 0 idea of how tight they should be postflop in mw pots, some guys stackoff with bottom 2p 150bb deep. Also with my image there's great value in flopping sets, since some regs were calling me down with A high vs a x/r b jam

In my sample those small pps are winning on every position when I CC/RFI, even in SB which is the worst position to do that. People don't squeeze enough. I think it's winning at 40bb/100 when I cc IP. If you want I can post the graphs in the spots you think are bad to call/rfi.

Yet in all the hundreds of thousands of hands you have played you dont have a positive winrate.

Hmmmmmmm

yeah I'm also starting to wonder where do your losses come from if all of your marginal plays are winning?

I don't know, my guess would be of random tilt, maybe overbluffs vs some people, also I overfolded in close to all spots, just recently I've started calling people down. Also I was playing with 100bbs, which limited my winrate a lot, which is terrible in an environment where rake is abysmal. I was paying 8bb/7bb/5.6bb on 50z/100z/200z, it's hard to cover such a big rake.

Here is my graph of when I cc 22-77 IP



Now some hands, will post player names so you know that they aren't whales, I've already took out all whales from the sample, just showing how the worst case scenario can be(vs regs)

H1: overbetting that turn should trigger some alarm bells

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

kaffeeteufel (BTN): 102.54 BB
shawn25nf (SB): 306.34 BB
Vishera (BB): 101.5 BB
kiljusieppo (UTG): 102.2 BB
Rapidesh123 (MP): 100 BB
Siemens1969 (CO): 163.18 BB

shawn25nf posts SB 0.5 BB, Vishera posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has 2 2

kiljusieppo raises to 2.1 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 2.1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (5.7 BB, 2 players) 2 9 6
kiljusieppo checks, Rapidesh123 bets 2.82 BB, kiljusieppo calls 2.82 BB

Turn: (11.33 BB, 2 players) A
kiljusieppo checks, Rapidesh123 bets 17 BB, kiljusieppo calls 17 BB

River: (45.33 BB, 2 players) A
kiljusieppo checks, Rapidesh123 bets 78.09 BB and is all-in, kiljusieppo calls 78.09 BB



H2: by people range checking flop, those setmines get an extra card, so it adds a lot into the math of that, back in 2011 people were cbetting too much, so our pps wouldn't see many free turns.

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Rapidesh123 (BTN): 100 BB
ImSoSleepy (SB): 121.93 BB
RPZ82 (BB): 105.32 BB
EluSiveMark (UTG): 180.14 BB
JJonyPoker (MP): 97.11 BB
lockyzhang (CO): 220.71 BB

ImSoSleepy posts SB 0.5 BB, RPZ82 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has 2 2

fold, JJonyPoker raises to 2.89 BB, fold, Rapidesh123 calls 2.89 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.28 BB, 2 players) 8 J 4
JJonyPoker checks, Rapidesh123 checks

Turn: (7.28 BB, 2 players) 2
JJonyPoker bets 5.53 BB, Rapidesh123 raises to 19.01 BB, JJonyPoker calls 13.48 BB

River: (45.3 BB, 2 players) 4
JJonyPoker checks, Rapidesh123 bets 32.95 BB, JJonyPoker calls 32.95 BB




H3: this guy is probably one of the biggest winners of 200z

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Rapidesh123 (BTN): 100 BB
OroJaNjivu (SB): 162.79 BB
BeccaSRE (BB): 44.81 BB
NotACatOK? (UTG): 109.6 BB
PowerlicH (MP): 124.11 BB
gudjon (CO): 179.82 BB

OroJaNjivu posts SB 0.5 BB, BeccaSRE posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has 5 5

fold, PowerlicH raises to 3 BB, fold, Rapidesh123 calls 3 BB, OroJaNjivu calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 9 4 5
OroJaNjivu checks, PowerlicH bets 6 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 6 BB, OroJaNjivu calls 6 BB

Turn: (28 BB, 3 players) T
OroJaNjivu checks, PowerlicH checks, Rapidesh123 bets 19.97 BB, OroJaNjivu raises to 119.82 BB, fold, Rapidesh123 calls 71.03 BB and is all-in

River: (210 BB, 2 players) 7
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (210 BB, 2 players) 4



H4: this is a reg, lol, just look at how sick it is to just try to hit a set vs him

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Rapidesh123 (BTN): 101 BB
Love_lori (SB): 100.5 BB
MakeUfold373 (BB): 92.95 BB
svini_ah (UTG): 173.28 BB
31ohnescharf (MP): 306.55 BB
K0nstantinus (CO): 127.44 BB

Love_lori posts SB 0.5 BB, MakeUfold373 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has 3 3

fold, fold, K0nstantinus raises to 2.4 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 2.4 BB, Love_lori calls 1.9 BB, fold

Flop: (8.2 BB, 3 players) 6 4 3
Love_lori checks, K0nstantinus checks, Rapidesh123 bets 5.84 BB, fold, K0nstantinus raises to 16.55 BB, Rapidesh123 raises to 98.6 BB and is all-in, K0nstantinus calls 82.05 BB

Turn: (205.4 BB, 2 players) T

River: (205.4 BB, 2 players) 7
Players agreed to run it twice.

Turn #2: (205.4 BB, 2 players) 7

River #2: (205.4 BB, 2 players) Q




That's why I said it's decent to cc small PPs, it's super ******ed and exploitable on my part, but I think people don't adjust well vs that

I'm winning at close to 2bbev/100 over 500k hands. Not crushing, but not as bad as you say, also I used to reset stacks when ai hit 110bbs, so lost 0.5bbev/100 because of that, because I was playing a lot less utg than I should

2k hands?, you made counter of all people are saying bc 2k hands graph?.........

instead of putting 22-77, what if you single out 22

That sample is meaningless. Those hands are meaningless and lol at Oro. Took me 1 post to have him close his thread.

at first I thought oro's line was a punt but I mean it's not all that bad, he is blocking 99 and charging a lot of draws, getting called by sets and combo draws only.. so I could see this shove working out better than we would expect it at first glance

If you add to the fact that most of the popuation fastplay their sets otf, it could be printing like crazy. But as spinmerightround said, I'm too easy to exploit. Even though it looks I'm spewy and bad with my plays, vs some people I was very careful with how I played. Vs most people it's not a big deal to never call sets otf, it's not like hakkazilla will pull this one off out of nowhere vs me, but vs people who are good enough to do that, calling flop has its merits.

H3, your flop call 3 way on that wet flop is terrible. that whale still would have paid you if you raised it up. You butchered the sets on the previous page also. You can't even play sets properly.


Really? Hes repping T9, and a whole bunch of draws, Id call him down with any pair there. The fact hes apparently one of the biggest winners on 200z just shows what a joke variance and 200z is.

Let me get this straight... This thread is full of probably a thousand or so hands where Rapidesh colossally spewed off his entire stack in the name of lol explo and now we're surprised that he got called light 4 times with sets?

wut?

he wasn't even called light lol, most of those hands are pretty standard except the 98s one

Played close to 3k hands today, played well at least, but it's so annoying to run bad, also I've made some mistakes, but it's hard to play that many hands without any, I feel like I get so punished for my mistakes, meh.

Worst hands of the day

H1: this is the worst of the day because I almost folded this, so ******ed, luckly I went into the lobby and saw he was 1-tabling, he was a 18/9 guy over 100 hands, he 3-bet only once.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 450.24 BB
Hero (SB): 241.68 BB
BB: 118.34 BB
UTG: 116 BB
MP: 149.48 BB
CO: 101.38 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, BB raises to 42 BB, fold, Hero raises to 241.68 BB and is all-in, BB calls 76.34 BB and is all-in

Flop: (239.68 BB, 2 players) 7 9 T

Turn: (239.68 BB, 2 players) A

River: (239.68 BB, 2 players) 5
Players agreed to run it twice.

Flop #2: (239.68 BB, 2 players) T 3 5

Turn #2: (239.68 BB, 2 players) K

River #2: (239.68 BB, 2 players) 2


H2: my sizing OTR is ******ed, even in theory it isn't that good, because villain is protected OTR with some Ax, also because this sizing doesn't force many mistakes by him, if he calls with Ax only he won't be making a big mistake, while if he did the same vs a 75% sizing, it would be bad. Imo my river sizings should be between 25%-100% and also having a jamming range, 2x pot does poorly for my value and my bluffs.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 103.2 BB
SB: 209.14 BB
BB: 117.36 BB
UTG: 134.46 BB
Hero (MP): 223.32 BB
CO: 51 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 K

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.14 BB, 2 players) T A T
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (6.14 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 3.86 BB, BTN calls 3.86 BB

River: (13.86 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 23 BB, BTN calls 23 BB




H3: terrible, just spew, decided to do that because saw that he was 3-betting Q3s, but if he is ******ed enough to do that, then he can jam with any garbage too

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 170.08 BB
SB: 126.98 BB
BB: 701.54 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 385.12 BB
CO: 107.18 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 2

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB raises to 9.2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 26 BB, fold

Hero wins 19.4 BB


H4: I'm not sure if this is bad or not, what do you do here vs an unknown? Vs whales I jam OTF, but vs an unknown I was a pussy in there, should I consider that villain is a whale for potting flop and jam anyway? Anyone folding turn? I've decided to call because thought villain wouldn't valuebet KK+ there

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 317.18 BB
SB: 134.94 BB
BB: 99.86 BB
Hero (UTG): 265.26 BB
MP: 147.32 BB
CO: 114.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 5.68 BB

Flop: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 8 7 6
BB bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

Turn: (44.5 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 24 BB, Hero calls 24 BB

River: (92.5 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB



Now some good hands

H5: vs unknown, close to 0 draws for him OTF and his sizing was nutted, good fold?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 86.2 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 138.32 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 105.82 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, CO calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (6.14 BB, 2 players) K 8 3
Hero bets 1.52 BB, CO raises to 10.4 BB, fold

CO wins 8.72 BB


H6: good fold? Thought villain would bet most of his flushes OTT, also I'm not sure if he would value-raise them OTR, on top of that, all his 98s play like that

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 433.94 BB
SB: 9.44 BB
BB: 118.5 BB
UTG: 123.7 BB
Hero (MP): 116.9 BB
CO: 38.12 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 7

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.14 BB, 2 players) 9 8 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 16.88 BB, BTN calls 11.88 BB

Turn: (39.9 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (39.9 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 28.42 BB, BTN raises to 414.74 BB and is all-in, fold

BTN wins 92.74 BB


h7: OTT it's quite ambitious, but villain was overfolding there, OTR I think it's ok to explo bluff there for 2x pot. He tanked for a lot of time and called this, which is actually a better call than the nut flush imo(if I'm valuebetting FHs only). If he tanked that much before calling this, I think I have a +EV bluff here, because most of his TP will snap fold.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 205.34 BB
SB: 152.22 BB
BB: 266.6 BB
UTG: 138.82 BB
Hero (MP): 183.44 BB
CO: 36.04 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T A

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) J 9 7
BB checks, Hero bets 4.4 BB, BB calls 4.4 BB

Turn: (13.94 BB, 2 players) 4
BB checks, Hero bets 9.94 BB, BB calls 9.94 BB

River: (33.82 BB, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero bets 76 BB, BB calls 76 BB

Somehow I doubt you're actually asking anyone. You should start replacing the question marks with periods.

What did you learn from the bolded? Did that really sway your decision one way or the other? Had you folded this hand, you'd have shown it proudly and said "H1: good fold?" and then defended it to the death itt.

Was gonna comment on the rest but what a waste.

yeah, I'm a stubborn person and would probably have done that, but we're people, we all make mistakes. It's easier to point out my mistakes because I expose myself here, actually even more because I'm looking for misplays to post them.

poker is such a tough game, I feel I'm never going to move up from 50z again.

Some bonus hands

H8: vs reg, looks very spewy, but imo it's a very strong play and this prints vs a lot of people. First of all, we have a lot of incentive to just jam here because a lot of people overbluff OTT, second, most of their value range isn't super comfortable calling in there, also we have very few bluff candidates(KQo) and many value combos. In fact, I think most people underbluff like crazy when they jam turn like that. Also in theory 77 is jamming in there a good amount, right?(if IP decides to have a jamming range in there).

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 128.36 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 154.78 BB
UTG: 72.92 BB
MP: 144.88 BB
CO: 153.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.68 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) T 8 2
SB bets 9.02 BB, Hero calls 9.02 BB

Turn: (37.04 BB, 2 players) A
SB bets 23 BB, Hero raises to 110.34 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 79.04 BB


H9: VAAAAMOOO!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 198.26 BB
SB: 107.4 BB
BB: 184.44 BB
UTG: 114.98 BB
MP: 369.14 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) 3 T Q
CO checks, Hero bets 8.64 BB, CO calls 8.64 BB

Turn: (34.78 BB, 2 players) 2
CO checks, Hero bets 17.18 BB, CO calls 17.18 BB

River: (69.14 BB, 2 players) 9
CO checks, Hero bets 164.44 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 65.68 BB


H10: vs probable fish, OTR we can't fold ever, right? The thing here is that he snap jam river and his turn sizing was looking like AA or a bluff a lot, or the nut flush. But meh, fish do so many stupid plays that it's hard to justify folding the straight here.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 216.78 BB
SB: 102.5 BB
BB: 13.02 BB
UTG: 108.06 BB
MP: 101.5 BB
CO: 200.3 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 4

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB raises to 6 BB, fold, Hero calls 3.68 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 2 players) 2 3 2
SB bets 8 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

Turn: (29 BB, 2 players) A
SB bets 13.78 BB, Hero calls 13.78 BB

River: (56.56 BB, 2 players) 3
SB bets 74.72 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 74.72 BB



H11: explo sizing OTT by me vs nitfish, his call OTR is so atrocious lol. Vs decent opponents I`m jamming turn with the hands I want to jam, but I found out that those small bets with the nuts make it easier to get stacks in OTR by luring weak players into calling, while in fact, small bets are on average stronger

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 62.9 BB
SB: 94.84 BB
BB: 103.26 BB
Hero (UTG): 171.82 BB
MP: 127.98 BB
CO: 130.68 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, MP raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 5.68 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) J T 8
Hero checks, MP bets 9.98 BB, Hero raises to 29 BB, MP calls 19.02 BB

Turn: (75.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 18.64 BB, MP calls 18.64 BB

River: (112.78 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 116.18 BB and is all-in, MP calls 72.34 BB and is all-in




H12: playing deep is so fun, his 5-bet is so bad, with that sizing he shouldn`t have a folding range and he should play his range as a call vs my 4-bet, right?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 30.82 BB
SB: 113.12 BB
BB: 113.64 BB
Hero (UTG): 220.14 BB
MP: 402.86 BB
CO: 51.66 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 A

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, MP raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 31 BB, MP raises to 82 BB, fold

MP wins 63.5 BB


H13: monkey play by me, it`s bad imo, better to just call, even folding looks better on this texture, the problem is that villain`s AQ/AK will have a lot of equity vs me on this texture, better to do it on J9x

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 128.98 BB
SB: 47 BB
BB: 101.5 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 70.74 BB
CO: 56.84 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 7.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 5.18 BB

Flop: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 2 T J
Hero checks, BTN bets 5.48 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, BTN calls 9.52 BB

Turn: (46.5 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BTN bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

River: (82.5 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN checks