I won't discuss the rake argument cause it's pretty stupid. What are you saying in the second part of your post though is that players won't have enough leaks for someone who studies equilibrium very well and is good with exploitative strategy to be able to make enough bb/100 just by exploitative folding and aggression. Just look at how assumptive this is. You are guessing that a 50NL pool doesn't have leaks pass the flop if they are overfolding it. I assume you haven't looked at any solver solutions so you can see the major difference between your pool's strategy and a well balanced strategy. A small mistake can be exploited by a solver for at least 10-20bb/100. Finding repeating mistakes like these that occur on regular basis would easily push your winrate.A simple PIO grid work can reveal a lot.

A hint : Overfolding over two streets is actually very common both at Turn,River and Flop,River across most textures.

a simple solver can give you 10-20bb, lol... sure

Easily the worst discussion on 2p2 ever. Went from Rapidesh spewing at 200z to “micros are unbeatable”.

Awesome. Show your graphs over at least a few hundred thousand hands a stake or shut the **** up please.

Also for people that said linus would win more at nl2 than blackrain, Im not sure.

Also for people that said linus would win more at nl2 than blackrain, Im not sure.

Also for people that said linus would win more at nl2 than blackrain, Im not sure.

Also for people that said linus would win more at nl2 than blackrain, Im not sure.

Also for people that said linus would win more at nl2 than blackrain, Im not sure.

Also for people that said linus would win more at nl2 than blackrain, Im not sure.

Also for people that said linus would win more at nl2 than blackrain, Im not sure.

I will not show my graphs and you best believe I am never shutting up either. You beating 5nl yet?

Then you have zero leg to stand on to make any criticisms in this thread or any other and every body reading should treat you as the troll you are. Every post you've made should be deleted.

6 years ago you played 4nl. A month ago it was 5nl. Surely anything you said to me just now applies to you too right?

That seems to be everyone’s go to anytime I post in a thread.

Doesnt take a Linus to figure out this discussion is about as ******ed as they come.

i can request my lifetime HH on stars, i think i have 1-2bb over 500k hands at micros, does that confirm its beatable?

beatable.

my 10z FR graph in the days I started poker back in 2013 haha, quite a funny graph.

You misread every single word I wrote and concluded that a solver can give you 10-20bb/100 winrate. I guess I'm wasting my times on these forums.

You're wasting time on this thread regardless. Op has been trolling everyone since day 1.

Fact

grinding from micros in 1 mil hands, respectable

grinding from 100 dollars to 10k like zapa the streamer in like 6 days, end boss

I go through upswings and downswings like every other poker player on this planet and have already stated in this thread that I've restarted my br several times. What I don't do is troll and pretend I'm some endboss that won't provide proof when asked for it repeatedly.

Played the HU challenge vs finland22, really sick, feel like I got super owned in there. It was also very good to see that people can have bluffs/value with some lines like checking back flop, double checking flop OOP and bluff raises OTR. Got so much to learn.

Will post it later, here are some of the most interesting hands we've played.

H1: don't know if it's a right call OTR(or raise OTF for value)

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 175.2 BB
Hero (SB): 179.36 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7 K

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (4.64 BB, 2 players) 4 6 7
BB checks, Hero bets 1.12 BB, BB raises to 5 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, BB calls 6 BB

Turn: (26.64 BB, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (26.64 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB




H2: wp by both?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 221.68 BB
Hero (SB): 104.96 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q T

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (4.64 BB, 2 players) K 9 6
BB checks, Hero bets 1.12 BB, BB calls 1.12 BB

Turn: (6.88 BB, 2 players) 4
BB checks, Hero bets 9.04 BB, BB calls 9.04 BB

River: (24.96 BB, 2 players) 4
BB checks, Hero bets 17.88 BB, BB calls 17.88 BB




H3: sick one by finland, he had 9d7x, can't think of many people at 200z that bluff in there ever(or maybe I'm wrong?)

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 170.84 BB
Hero (BB): 159.64 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8 K

SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 7 K K
Hero checks, SB bets 1.28 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 2.72 BB

Turn: (12 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 15.8 BB, SB calls 15.8 BB

River: (43.6 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 31.24 BB, SB raises to 149.04 BB and is all-in, fold

SB wins 104.08 BB


H4: I think my call OTT is quite bad, should have folded there, right? OTR It's a fold blocking the club, right? He was bluffing here in this one

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 195.12 BB
Hero (SB): 104 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 5 5

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (4.64 BB, 2 players) 2 J 3
BB checks, Hero bets 1.12 BB, BB raises to 5 BB, Hero calls 3.88 BB

Turn: (14.64 BB, 2 players) A
BB bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

River: (36.64 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 26 BB, fold

BB wins 35 BB


H5: Didn't think he would ever check value here, so went for the benabadbeat's coffee bet, got owned. Shouldn't make that play vs a tough opponent, right?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 103.76 BB
Hero (SB): 243.12 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J K

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (4.64 BB, 2 players) 7 K Q
BB checks, Hero bets 3.96 BB, BB raises to 13 BB, Hero calls 9.04 BB

Turn: (30.64 BB, 2 players) 7
BB bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB

River: (74.64 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 1 BB, BB raises to 50.76 BB, Hero calls 49.76 BB


H6: good fold? He had a FH in there, but I almost called, thought most of his sets and flushes raised flop

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 143.76 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A K

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (4.64 BB, 2 players) K 9 4
BB checks, Hero bets 1.12 BB, BB calls 1.12 BB

Turn: (6.88 BB, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero bets 4.92 BB, BB calls 4.92 BB

River: (16.72 BB, 2 players) 4
BB checks, Hero bets 11.96 BB, BB raises to 40 BB, fold

BB wins 38.8 BB


H7: he snap called this, so sick to snap call that river lol!

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 100.56 BB
Hero (SB): 111.2 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q 4

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (4.64 BB, 2 players) 5 A T
BB checks, Hero bets 1.12 BB, BB calls 1.12 BB

Turn: (6.88 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 9.04 BB, BB calls 9.04 BB

River: (24.96 BB, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero bets 17.88 BB, BB calls 17.88 BB



H8: the worst hand played was obv mine, river raise is atrocious, I don't know really sure what I was doing there, he said he wouldn't fold any ace in there and I believe him. Such a massive spew. I rep very few value combos, meh and even A2/22 aren't happy raising that river, specially for that size.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 208.4 BB
Hero (BB): 115.72 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 2 K

SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) A Q K
Hero checks, SB bets 2.12 BB, Hero calls 2.12 BB

Turn: (8.24 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, SB bets 5.24 BB, Hero calls 5.24 BB

River: (18.72 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, SB bets 13 BB, Hero raises to 106.36 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 42.72 BB

H9: good call?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 245.2 BB
Hero (BB): 117.08 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7 7

SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 4 5 Q
Hero checks, SB bets 2.12 BB, Hero calls 2.12 BB

Turn: (8.24 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, SB bets 5.68 BB, Hero calls 5.68 BB

River: (19.6 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, SB bets 25 BB, Hero calls 25 BB

Going from 4nl to 5nl in 6 years. Crazy upswing man.

Just shut the hell up.

wow those hands

I dunno about Mzbourg, I mean I ignore all his posts but damn that avatar

GL though rapidash rooting for you to get back on track!

Has anybody Infos How much bb/100 ist the rake in following Limits?
NL50z
NL100z
NL200z

8bb/100
7bb/100
5.6bb/100

In my sample its like that.

kk, ty.... i thought the gap is much higher!
other guys have a similar answer like rapidesh?

did he really play 5 million hands at 2nl?

Serious question, did blackrain have like autism or was somewhere on the spectrum?

Because I don't see anyone being totally there mentally doing this.

And like, why not ever move up? So many questions...

his micro results from years back