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Old 03-22-2017, 08:32 AM   #301
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Re: rapidesh123, the legend is back

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Btw, can you post your BB winrate?

my BB winrate in NL25 is like this

This isn't even a downswing, it's just a down.

Just a bump in the road, I have faith. I want to see that super sick red line again.
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:42 AM   #302
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This isn't even a downswing, it's just a down.

Just a bump in the road, I have faith. I want to see that super sick red line again.
That's the graph from BB lol
would you expect to see it going up?
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:01 AM   #303
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Cmon man Le'ts win!!!
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:20 AM   #304
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Cmon man Le'ts win!!!
It's not a downswing only
most of it went down the road like that because of my massive tilts.
I started looking for a lot of tilted hands in NL25 and things are ugly, still think there are way more mini-tilts which I spew 10-20bbs here and there.

Found out $500 of tilted hands that I lost a stack.
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:22 PM   #305
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That's the graph from BB lol
would you expect to see it going up?
Oh that makes a lot more sense, thank god.

If that was your actual winrate that would be the most depressing graph ever.

edit: seriously though I do have faith you'll be back in the 50nlz streets
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Old 03-23-2017, 12:51 AM   #306
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Re: rapidesh123, the legend is back

Is this call fine? Used to fold a lot here

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 134.44 BB (VPIP: 20.78, PFR: 15.69, 3Bet Preflop: 8.11, Hands: 263)
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 158.31 BB (VPIP: 18.87, PFR: 13.21, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 108)
UTG: 109.94 BB (VPIP: 27.12, PFR: 22.71, 3Bet Preflop: 8.78, Hands: 1,232)
MP: 122 BB (VPIP: 16.38, PFR: 12.63, 3Bet Preflop: 5.67, Hands: 1,377)
CO: 66.06 BB (VPIP: 22.40, PFR: 18.02, 3Bet Preflop: 7.59, Hands: 390)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 9.5 BB

Flop: (27.5 BB, 2 players) 6 T 8
Hero checks, BTN bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (51.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (51.5 BB, 2 players) A
Hero bets 16.25 BB, BTN raises to 110.44 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 60.25 BB and is all-in

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Old 03-23-2017, 02:28 AM   #307
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Re: rapidesh123, the legend is back

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Is this call fine? Used to fold a lot here

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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BTN: 134.44 BB (VPIP: 20.78, PFR: 15.69, 3Bet Preflop: 8.11, Hands: 263)
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 158.31 BB (VPIP: 18.87, PFR: 13.21, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 108)
UTG: 109.94 BB (VPIP: 27.12, PFR: 22.71, 3Bet Preflop: 8.78, Hands: 1,232)
MP: 122 BB (VPIP: 16.38, PFR: 12.63, 3Bet Preflop: 5.67, Hands: 1,377)
CO: 66.06 BB (VPIP: 22.40, PFR: 18.02, 3Bet Preflop: 7.59, Hands: 390)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 9.5 BB

Flop: (27.5 BB, 2 players) 6 T 8
Hero checks, BTN bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (51.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (51.5 BB, 2 players) A
Hero bets 16.25 BB, BTN raises to 110.44 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 60.25 BB and is all-in

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It looks like opponent could be turning a marginally made hand into a bluff. If they put you on a weak A high, there's a lot more bluffs they could be representing that combos of hands that beat you in my opinion. I might be spewy, but I'm calling that off with most opponents.
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Old 03-23-2017, 02:31 AM   #308
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Re: rapidesh123, the legend is back

With that turn check and pf action, I don't see him repping many 7's. Basically 77 sometimes, but why would you check-back 7's with 2 FD's out there and a position.

I think I would check/call the river almost always.
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Old 03-23-2017, 07:06 AM   #309
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Re: rapidesh123, the legend is back

bankroll at $187, won't play today, will play a lot tomorrow, since it's softer.

Btw, I still have $130 I cashed out on neteller, so if needed I'll redeposit, let's see how it goes.
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:12 PM   #310
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Re: rapidesh123, the legend is back



u can do it men
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Old 03-24-2017, 10:30 PM   #311
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Re: rapidesh123, the legend is back

Almost went busto today, was playing well on NL16, then started losing a lot of all-ins, ended 6 BI below EV, my bankroll was already super small for that stake, so I got tilted, move back to NL10 and used that super aggro strat(reached 42% re-steal).

Lost a lot, by bankroll fell to $60 lol. The good thing is that I took a break, thought a little, played straightforward poker while villains were super tilted. Then people started tilting their stacks to me LOL. They probably played like that because of the super high 3bet% and maniac stats lol

I think I'm pretty good at tilting other people, but the problem is that the overadapt and start making huge call downs, which tilts me like crazy. Also some regs adapt by overbluffing (because I always have bluffs, right?), that's one of the reasons I lost a lot in NL25, I was bluffing and folding a lot, basically dumping money to those regs.

Well, I think also that my huge 30bb/100 over 30k hands(at the beginning of the thread) went like that because of that effect, I was merging a lot and tilting those regs even more, also that kind of stuff is even more effective when I'm running good.

Then after getting some tilted stacks, managed to get back to $180 lol.

I think if I'm able to control tilt and able to feel when villains are overadapting, I could abuse that and throw some super thin valuebets and inducing. Now that I'm trained in hero calling, I think I could do that.

Also today I went into a lot more post-flop spots, specially in situations I wasn't used to, like flatting min-raises in the BB with 98o, J7s.

Here are some hands that I destroyed some tilted villains


H1: was betting to induce/valuebet A/K high, some villains called 2 streets with A high there vs me. After he raised the turn, I was hero calling any river, guy was tilted, I think it's fine.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 74.1 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
Hero (SB): 309 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: 135.5 BB
MP: 82 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 20)
CO: 104.7 BB (VPIP: 3.33, PFR: 3.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 6 6 T
Hero bets 2.9 BB, BB calls 2.9 BB

Turn: (11.8 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 5.8 BB, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 6.2 BB

River: (35.8 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BB bets 22.6 BB, Hero raises to 291.1 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 77.4 BB


Guy was already tilted before playing with me lol.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 157.3 BB (VPIP: 25.84, PFR: 21.35, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 91)
SB: 61.7 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: 178.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 70.7 BB (VPIP: 26.63, PFR: 17.68, 3Bet Preflop: 5.62, Hands: 207)
MP: 192.8 BB (VPIP: 17.91, PFR: 9.70, 3Bet Preflop: 4.69, Hands: 137)
Hero (CO): 213.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.3 BB

Flop: (5.1 BB, 2 players) A 8 A
BB checks, Hero bets 1.6 BB, BB calls 1.6 BB

Turn: (8.3 BB, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero bets 4.1 BB, BB raises to 41 BB, Hero raises to 86 BB, BB raises to 174.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 88.6 BB

River: (357.5 BB, 2 players) 5

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H3: Had 800 hands on that guy, after I jammed the river I thought "damn, maybe it was wrong, he may fold even his flushes there with that size"

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 16.08, PFR: 12.86, 3Bet Preflop: 2.27, Hands: 324)
SB: 67.4 BB (VPIP: 19.81, PFR: 15.24, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 113)
Hero (BB): 539.2 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.36, PFR: 17.94, 3Bet Preflop: 8.08, Hands: 844)
MP: 106.3 BB (VPIP: 19.00, PFR: 15.84, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 226)
CO: 109.3 BB (VPIP: 17.91, PFR: 13.43, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 69)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 9 6 J
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 11 BB, UTG calls 11 BB

River: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 277 BB, UTG calls 86 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:


H4: 3-betted this guy like crazy, in his HUD I sould probably have 20-40% 3-bet and 50%+ re-steal lol

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 106.1 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 19.07, 3Bet Preflop: 15.06, Hands: 402)
SB: 130.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (BB): 132 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.15, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 100)
MP: 95.1 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 173 BB (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 8.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 12.5 BB, UTG raises to 100 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 87.5 BB

Flop: (203.5 BB, 2 players) 7 6 7

Turn: (203.5 BB, 2 players) Q

River: (203.5 BB, 2 players) 2

Spoiler:



H5: You called it with jack high!!! lol

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101.6 BB (VPIP: 16.33, PFR: 16.33, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, Hands: 49)
SB: 63.9 BB
Hero (BB): 392.4 BB
UTG: 114.8 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP: 122.2 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
CO: 153.3 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 A

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 7 7 A
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (5.5 BB, 2 players) A
Hero bets 3.9 BB, BTN calls 3.9 BB

River: (13.3 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 18 BB, BTN calls 18 BB

Spoiler:



Even though I have even less bankroll than I had yesterday, I was hopeless, thinking I couldn't beat the game. This crazy session on NL10 gave me a lot of hope, will focus in controlling tilt and will keep studying and playing.
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Old 03-24-2017, 10:40 PM   #312
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Re: rapidesh123, the legend is back

lol

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100.7 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (SB): 310.8 BB
BB: 232.4 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 19.44, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
UTG: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 32.14, 3Bet Preflop: 8.89, Hands: 113)
MP: 112 BB (VPIP: 23.99, PFR: 19.75, 3Bet Preflop: 7.10, Hands: 403)
CO: 128.1 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 6

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 9 7 4
Hero bets 4.2 BB, BB calls 4.2 BB

Turn: (14.4 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 10.2 BB, BB calls 10.2 BB

River: (34.8 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 24.5 BB, BB raises to 65.6 BB, Hero calls 41.1 BB

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Old 03-25-2017, 08:23 PM   #313
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Re: rapidesh123, the legend is back

Played a really good session here, controlling tilt pretty well, also made some really tough calls, well, at least for me xD

H1: since people are calling me with A high in B VS B wars, I started valuebetting midpairs. Used to fold a lot OTR, not anymore lol.

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 3.33, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 61)
SB: 244.69 BB (VPIP: 24.94, PFR: 20.25, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 412)
Hero (BB): 101.5 BB
UTG: 105.63 BB (VPIP: 16.59, PFR: 13.00, 3Bet Preflop: 2.22, Hands: 226)
MP: 285.06 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 17.78, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 45)
CO: 257.38 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) Q 3 K
SB checks, Hero bets 5.69 BB, SB calls 5.69 BB

Turn: (29.38 BB, 2 players) 4
SB checks, Hero bets 14.56 BB, SB calls 14.56 BB

River: (58.5 BB, 2 players) 2
SB bets 215.44 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 72.25 BB and is all-in

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H2: checked to induce OTT, didn't barrel because villain folded a lot to turn cbets, also used to fold a lot on this spot.

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 335.69 BB (VPIP: 28.15, PFR: 21.16, 3Bet Preflop: 8.78, Hands: 2,454)
SB: 124.44 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
Hero (BB): 115.31 BB
UTG: 127.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: 212 BB (VPIP: 29.03, PFR: 21.66, 3Bet Preflop: 9.20, Hands: 219)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.43, PFR: 18.50, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 434)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, CO calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (16.5 BB, 2 players) J 5 5
Hero bets 8.19 BB, CO calls 8.19 BB

Turn: (32.88 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (32.88 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 23.19 BB, CO raises to 83.81 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 60.63 BB

Spoiler:



H3: vs a random donkey aggrotard, used to fold a lot OTF, it's better to fold OTF than calling and folding OTT or OTR, since these guys always shoot 3 bullets.

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 120.31 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.79, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 3.49, Hands: 213)
BB: 101.44 BB (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: 537.69 BB (VPIP: 20.47, PFR: 14.89, 3Bet Preflop: 6.16, Hands: 1,038)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
CO: 194.19 BB (VPIP: 20.14, PFR: 15.74, 3Bet Preflop: 7.45, Hands: 446)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) 2 8 Q
BB bets 4 BB, fold, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (16 BB, 2 players) 8
BB bets 8 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

River: (32 BB, 2 players) 4
BB bets 31 BB, Hero calls 31 BB

Spoiler:



H4: is checking the turn right? the 3-bettor seemed like a huge nit lol

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 158.69 BB (VPIP: 19.07, PFR: 13.95, 3Bet Preflop: 4.49, Hands: 220)
SB: 138.25 BB (VPIP: 21.26, PFR: 16.43, 3Bet Preflop: 8.79, Hands: 208)
BB: 135.19 BB (VPIP: 12.99, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 77)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
Hero (MP): 104.38 BB
CO: 119.06 BB (VPIP: 23.48, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 118)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, Hero raises to 2.31 BB, CO raises to 7 BB, fold, SB calls 6.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 4.69 BB

Flop: (22 BB, 3 players) A 3 K
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (22 BB, 3 players) Q
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

River: (22 BB, 3 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 10.88 BB, fold, fold

Hero wins 21 BB
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Old 03-25-2017, 08:36 PM   #314
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Then people started tilting their stacks to me LOL. They probably played like that because of the super high 3bet% and maniac stats lol

I think I'm pretty good at tilting other people, but the problem is that the overadapt and start making huge call downs, which tilts me like crazy. Also some regs adapt by overbluffing (because I always have bluffs, right?), that's one of the reasons I lost a lot in NL25, I was bluffing and folding a lot, basically dumping money to those regs.

Well, I think also that my huge 30bb/100 over 30k hands(at the beginning of the thread) went like that because of that effect, I was merging a lot and tilting those regs even more, also that kind of stuff is even more effective when I'm running good.
Dude I really think you need to re-think this side of poker if you're going to be successful. The regs are bad and will do bad-reg things. They might do slightly more bad-reg things against regs they perceive as loose/spewy, but zoom isn't a format where you can capitalize on tilting regs.

Most of what you think is regs adjusting is just you over bluffing against stations or even just card distribution. 30k hands is nothing, espec at zoom where winrates are so small compared to rake.

Send me a PM if you want, would be interested in talking some zoom strat with you (we've played together a bit).
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Old 03-25-2017, 09:21 PM   #315
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Judging from your HHs, the metagame at 16z is comparable to the one at 200z +...

Thought the micros were mostly straightforward... It's been a while since I've played there but gee, it looks WAY harder than what people say it is.
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Dude I really think you need to re-think this side of poker if you're going to be successful. The regs are bad and will do bad-reg things. They might do slightly more bad-reg things against regs they perceive as loose/spewy, but zoom isn't a format where you can capitalize on tilting regs.

Most of what you think is regs adjusting is just you over bluffing against stations or even just card distribution. 30k hands is nothing, espec at zoom where winrates are so small compared to rake.

Send me a PM if you want, would be interested in talking some zoom strat with you (we've played together a bit).
Zoom is a format where you capitalize on regs tilting and better players will lose less when downswings occur/control their emotions better than these ''tilting regs'' who will forever have mediocre results due to tilt.
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Old 03-25-2017, 10:37 PM   #317
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Judging from your HHs, the metagame at 16z is comparable to the one at 200z +...

Thought the micros were mostly straightforward... It's been a while since I've played there but gee, it looks WAY harder than what people say it is.
not hard at all lol
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Re: rapidesh123, the legend is back

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Zoom is a format where you capitalize on regs tilting and better players will lose less when downswings occur/control their emotions better than these ''tilting regs'' who will forever have mediocre results due to tilt.
Agreed. I didn't phrase that clearly. You capitalize on regs who are tilted, but it's a lot harder to be the cause of reg-tilt and then take advantage of it, than it is at reg tables.

Regs don't see the majority of what you do, so spewing for 500 hands won't cause them to adjust that much to you. You can overbluff for a while, and it feels like regs are calling down lighter, but it's almost certainly variance.

I'm not saying regs are completely clueless and won't adjust at all, but I've been in the pool with rapi a bunch over the last month and I only find out at the end of the session from reading this thread what mode he was in. I know he's a reasonable thinking reg so I play against him as I would any reg (ie as GTO as I'm able, which I'm obv bad at since it's micros).
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Old 03-26-2017, 01:40 AM   #319
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Nah 16z is very easy. There was this guy on reddit who won 100bi in 100k hands at 25z. I would say 90% of the hands you play at 25z are players that are not thinking much at all. And 10% against regulars that are not much better (mostly euro nits). This is my results at 25z although it is a small sample, I can tell you the players are very bad.
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Old 03-26-2017, 01:45 AM   #320
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Regs don't see the majority of what you do, so spewing for 500 hands won't cause them to adjust that much to you.
Did you see my overall graph and the hands posted at the beginning of the thread? I had 200k hands of this super aggro-playstyle(+50k of going on monkeytilt mode in NL25)

And 50k of playing as a huge nit.

In some HH I posted here, people were calling my 3-bets with AQ, then the cbet, T cbet and river overshove for 150% of the pot with ace high lol.

there was a time when I was valuebetting so thinly that I started jamming TPWK OTR and getting called by worse a lot.

Every time I'm in the BTN and there's one reg(who isn't a nit) in the CO, and he takes some time thinking a lot about opening there or stealing my blind. I saw you pause for a little today, meowth, u acted fast, but some guys even time out lol.

Even reloadonsashagray made some moves against me lol.
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Old 03-26-2017, 01:56 AM   #321
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Nah 16z is very easy. There was this guy on reddit who won 100bi in 100k hands at 25z. I would say 90% of the hands you play at 25z are players that are not thinking much at all. And 10% against regulars that are not much better (mostly euro nits). This is my results at 25z although it is a small sample, I can tell you the players are very bad.
so what stakes do you think has players that do think and regs that are good? Any of the (regularly running) zoom pools?
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BTW, back to $285

had another great session, tilted only 1 BI today.
tomorrow will play more, but I'll start studying for a subject the day after, so will play less volume.

Won't be able to maintain supernova status =(

Some hands I played today.

H1: can't stop myself from not cold 4-betting this guy lol, but he is aware of that.

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 213.56 BB (VPIP: 13.89, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
SB: 199.44 BB (VPIP: 19.12, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 7.25, Hands: 490)
Hero (BB): 100.5 BB
UTG: 108.56 BB (VPIP: 22.65, PFR: 18.39, 3Bet Preflop: 11.70, Hands: 461)
MP: 108.88 BB (VPIP: 3.70, PFR: 3.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
CO: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 22.16, PFR: 16.99, 3Bet Preflop: 8.16, Hands: 896)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, SB raises to 7 BB, Hero raises to 18 BB, fold, SB calls 11 BB

Flop: (38 BB, 2 players) J 6 J
SB checks, Hero bets 12 BB, SB calls 12 BB

Turn: (62 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (62 BB, 2 players) 9
SB bets 32 BB, Hero calls 32 BB

Spoiler:


H2: vs random guy, used to fold OTF

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 116.38 BB
SB: 105.75 BB (VPIP: 21.18, PFR: 14.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 89)
BB: 98 BB
UTG: 466.75 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 21.76, 3Bet Preflop: 14.04, Hands: 350)
MP: 50.56 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 84)
CO: 233.25 BB (VPIP: 17.76, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 157)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 A

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.31 BB, fold, BB calls 1.31 BB

Flop: (5.13 BB, 2 players) K 8 A
BB checks, Hero bets 2.5 BB, BB raises to 7 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB

Turn: (19.13 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets 9.44 BB, BB raises to 28 BB, Hero calls 18.56 BB

River: (75.13 BB, 2 players) 5
BB bets 35.88 BB, Hero calls 35.88 BB

Spoiler:



H3: vs a guy who I thought was a nit lol

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 96.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (SB): 122.13 BB
BB: 105.38 BB (VPIP: 32.14, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
UTG: 181.44 BB (VPIP: 29.73, PFR: 18.92, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 38)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.12, PFR: 16.22, 3Bet Preflop: 12.82, Hands: 115)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.96, PFR: 16.73, 3Bet Preflop: 5.76, Hands: 772)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, CO calls 8 BB

Flop: (23 BB, 2 players) K Q T
Hero bets 11.38 BB, CO raises to 25.69 BB, Hero calls 14.31 BB

Turn: (74.38 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, CO bets 63.31 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 63.31 BB

River: (201 BB, 2 players) 2
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (201 BB, 2 players) 8

Hero shows A J (Straight, Ace High)
Board #1 (Pre 68%, Flop 89%, Turn 97%)
(Straight, Ace High)
Board #2 (Pre 67%, Flop 89%, Turn 97%)

Spoiler:


H4: vs some random guy with reggy stats

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 127.56 BB (VPIP: 24.68, PFR: 20.78, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 78)
Hero (SB): 101.94 BB
BB: 122 BB (VPIP: 21.82, PFR: 17.12, 3Bet Preflop: 9.26, Hands: 567)
UTG: 55.88 BB (VPIP: 5.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP: 124.88 BB (VPIP: 15.14, PFR: 8.72, 3Bet Preflop: 1.40, Hands: 1,083)
CO: 111.13 BB (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 19.95, 3Bet Preflop: 7.91, Hands: 441)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K T

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 8.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 5 T T
Hero bets 8.94 BB, BTN raises to 102 BB, Hero calls 84.5 BB and is all-in

Turn: (204.88 BB, 2 players) J

River: (204.88 BB, 2 players) Q

Spoiler:


H5: the guy who gave $5 to the pot was the same who jammed A3s in my straight from hand 3

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 99.88 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: 299.75 BB (VPIP: 23.90, PFR: 16.79, 3Bet Preflop: 5.43, Hands: 725)
BB: 96.5 BB (VPIP: 19.60, PFR: 14.39, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 414)
UTG: 195.81 BB (VPIP: 27.49, PFR: 21.60, 3Bet Preflop: 11.31, Hands: 785)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.04, PFR: 20.61, 3Bet Preflop: 8.38, Hands: 510)
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.31 BB, fold, SB calls 1.81 BB, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 9.69 BB, SB calls 9.69 BB

Flop: (36 BB, 3 players) 9 3 9
SB checks, BB bets 12.06 BB, Hero calls 12.06 BB, SB raises to 31.25 BB, BB raises to 84.5 BB and is all-in, Hero raises to 88 BB and is all-in, fold

Turn: (236.25 BB, 2 players) 5

River: (236.25 BB, 2 players) A
Players agreed to run it twice.

Turn #2: (236.25 BB, 2 players) Q

River #2: (236.25 BB, 2 players) 2

BB shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Nines)
Board #1 (Pre 19%, Flop 12%, Turn 23%)
(Full House, Queens full of Nines)
Board #2 (Pre 19%, Flop 12%, Turn 95%)

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Old 03-26-2017, 02:06 AM   #323
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Here's the tilt hand

Thought about calling the flop and bluffcatching if he had a draw, but the A OTT added a lot of TP to villain's range, so I should have folded there. OTR the flush completed, since I had the K blocker, I decided to jam to fold out his sets that could be bet-folding there, also I could have a flush too.

The problem is that villain has way more flushes than sets in that spot =(

The other problem is that people don't fold sets, specially vs me. Some guys don't fold even high cards lol.

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 103.63 BB (VPIP: 19.81, PFR: 15.48, 3Bet Preflop: 8.26, Hands: 334)
SB: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 16.36, PFR: 13.94, 3Bet Preflop: 10.29, Hands: 170)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.79, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 113)
UTG: 183 BB (VPIP: 44.83, PFR: 27.59, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 30)
Hero (MP): 100.31 BB
CO: 266 BB (VPIP: 28.18, PFR: 21.18, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 2,466)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J K

fold, Hero raises to 2.31 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.31 BB

Flop: (5.13 BB, 2 players) 4 K 6
BB checks, Hero bets 2.5 BB, BB raises to 7.5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Turn: (20.13 BB, 2 players) A
BB bets 9.63 BB, Hero calls 9.63 BB

River: (39.38 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 24.5 BB, Hero raises to 80.88 BB and is all-in, BB calls 56.06 BB and is all-in

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Old 03-26-2017, 02:08 AM   #324
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so what stakes do you think has players that do think and regs that are good? Any of the (regularly running) zoom pools?
I do not know. I have only played up to 25z and the collective skill of the pools from 2z-25z is marginal. It appears there are fish at every stake, but the fish to regular ratio gets worse as you move up. I have seen some 500z streams where you have tables where you frequently have 3 regulars on your table which is quite a drastic difference to the micros and you can imagine how that would have a huge effect on your win rate.
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Old 03-26-2017, 02:20 AM   #325
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Nah 16z is very easy. There was this guy on reddit who won 100bi in 100k hands at 25z. I would say 90% of the hands you play at 25z are players that are not thinking much at all. And 10% against regulars that are not much better (mostly euro nits). This is my results at 25z although it is a small sample, I can tell you the players are very bad.
NL25 is really hard, even NL10 is hard. When I started playing NL25, I was on a sick heater, so it was easy to think that people were bad.

People there can't be easily exploited, they adapt really fast, know how to bluffcatch, how to bluff well and valuebet pretty well.

OFC, probably 25% of the pool is those 30/10 limping regs who just wait for the nuts, but these guys aren't donating much money, also they take the seat of the bigger fish and stay there waiting for good hands, and when they hit, if you're tilted(or nor careful) you will get stacked.

You saw what those regs are capable of doing, imagine you cbetting that board and geting raised OTF and jammed OTT. Guy had ace high and pulled a move like that, in a pool where almost all raises in 3-bet pots mean sets/slowplayed overpairs.
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