Depends on the school systems you have going on over there teaching in a normal school probably but that still easily covers outgoings based on what you said.

Also saving up £50k is doable in the next two and a bit years for me which is basically life sorted in Brazil whereas here I get to work all my life to pay off my mortgage on my ok home. I digress though my life just sucks.

Yeah, it sounds like a good plan. Also the prices I said were for houses/apartments in big cities, in small cities I think its way cheaper, maybe you can find a good place in a city where theres a beach in northeast os Brazil. But those places are very undeveloped, roads are busted, not many options to go out in the weekends. Big cities are usually bad too because of traffic/violence. There are some cities that have the best of both worlds, like Rberao preto, brasilia(still expensive but quality of life in there is insane), porto de galinhas, cabo frio.

A teacher in a good private school can make up to ~4k usd/month

Yeah, but gotta have a lot of networking/luck/speak portuguese well, better to present the worst case scenario, if things go better, treat it as a bonus.

Dont think anyone has ever talked so much technical and strat talk as you and at the same time said nothing.

Impressive.

I live in brazil, I can be wrong but if you are talking about teaching on private schools for kids or teenagers, I think this is wage is really really hard to achieve if you are not a very very good teacher on a very very good school and even being a good professional its like rapidesh said, you still would need to have some networking, 4k usd I believe is the average wage for private college teachers, some disciplines pay less, others pay more but I believe this is the average only on private colleges but usually they usually give classes of more than 1 discipline and work in more than 1 college, so some of than can win more than 4k usd month easy and have a really good wage, for a teacher have a good wage here I believe the college is the way to go

oh yes, 4k/month is a rare thing for sure

Sick strat by stars wrt unfold poker, rake a small pot every hand where nobody has an edge on anyone else (their wet dream) whilst acting like its a nice new poker variant for the rec players. All aboard the rake machine!

In all srsness id expect that preflop equilibrium is similar just everyone now folds more of the bottom of range. Altho it would be extreme exploitative depending what other players are doing id expect. Kinda clever by stars, incentivising rec players to fold more preflop in exchange for chance of winning a small capped pot rather than playing their OOL wide ranges vs experienced regs

Yeah, also in unfold pots we can know pretty fast who are the whales. Also I underestimated how much fish were misplaying those pots, some guys fold their hand and then unfold with J high lol!

Also if people play a lot of mw pots, the EV of the antes is split with fewer people, so we will actually have a lot of tough preflop decisions in very small pots. If one guy opens, 2 fish call and we are in th BB with 33 maybe its not a call. With 6 people on the table, the EV of folding is 0.5bb

Knowing that the unfold pot was raked was pretty annoying though, I was super excited thinking it wasnt raked. But I still think I will give it a shot, I love going into new places where strat isnt well developed where creativity is rewarded.

I think its possible that even regs are capable of making major mistakes on this one, so lets see how it goes. Its not like it is some split holdem BS where rake is insanely higher and edges in theory are smaller. In unfold holdem, everyone gets a chance to make a mistake all the time, so maybe its possible to get >20bb/100 in a table with 4 fish?

Also fish play very low attention in the unfold decisions because its a small money amount, but in bbs its insane
Anyone playing microstakes unfold that want to develop strats pm ne with your skype. Im also somewhat clueless with those unfold pots. Got some quizzes here, if anyone could help:
1- we got 33 on 964r vs 2 people, should we get in the unfold pot?
2- we got AQ on 445 vs 5 people
3- we got 32ss on A37s vs 4 people
4- we got 77 on K52 vs 6 people

we have the option to pay pot to get it in, if we are the only ones we win the pot, if someone else calls we have to run our equity vs them

I'm guessing you're just playing unfold poker for the fun of it/going into strat? I hope you don't think you can make a single cent playing that variant, it's just another sham game by Pokerstars to needle and tilt the regs.

Games arent running on nl100 and 200 atm, so cant play that. I was doing mosrly because of the fun element/discovery, but I expected to make some EV too. Its hard to grind it pretty hard because you gotta be really fast while unfolding. So was thinking about grinding one of those while 2-tabling zoom.

If it nl100/200 isnt happening ever, I will give up on the idea. Maybe will record 1 session in the microstakes to show the strat I was going to use. Its a very unorthodox sttat, but quite mind-blowing. Im not sure if its GTO in that game, but it would over-realize if people were playing that game if they played like they play normal holdem.

I like thinking about poker, having the opportunity to make theories about these new games is fun and maybe could help in my nlhe game. It wouldnt be as optimal as just studying holdem, but this kind of work can ve extrapolated to a lot of different spots.

games are running at nl100 and nl200, over 100 players in each pool

Not in unfold holdem, I clicked in observe on nl200 and saw luxpoker and another guy disconnected. The last time Ive played there were at least 2 nl100 games going on. Maybe people didnt like it that much.

Can you explain to me why unfold would actually be popular? I don't see how it gets new people playing, I don't see the gamble in it to attract weaker players/casuals and it's not exactly been advertised well imo.

After you fold, you get to play a minigame, but the side pot is really small, dont know if fun players will enjoy that much because of the $ amount. But you play way more actions/100 hands than in normal holdem.

Yeah I get what the game is I just see absolutely no appeal to it bar it being a variation to study which may be interesting. In terms of getting people into the game, I see nothing.

I hate gambling, so dont know what is exciting for fish/whales. But it makes sense that its probably not something they would like much.

You are gambling by playing poker for real money though.

People play poker because they know it's a skilled game w/ elements of gambling included though. If the majority of people were playing just to gamble they would go play an actual gambling game instead, like craps or something.

Most casino games are games of skill just ones that even if you play perfectly you still lose. Your logic also doesn't follow at all in your post but I suppose it's somewhat true because the vast majority of people do play something else instead.

And you're either missing my point or wrong either way it doesn't really matter.

edit - feel free to pm me about this if you'd like to discus. Shouldn't be derailing someones thread, sorry.

So the assumption is that gambling = you sometimes win, but you lose in the long run.

Therefore, losing poker players are all gambling. Winning poker players are not. How does that make any sense?

Why would you bother wasting 2 brain cells in bothering to analyse some stupid new poker variant designed to screw you over.

No the assumption is winners know how to make +EV gambles more times than not and losers do not. Which implies that poker is a game where it actually possible to make +EV decisions while with most other games it is not. If it's not possible to make then it's pure gambling obviously.

Played a good portion of my volume on unfold hold'em 100 and 200 today, does anyone here know how can I get HHs to PT4? I can't even share them on BOOM, so it will be tough to track my progress into that game. So far, here it's what I've realized about that game:

1- People are butchering hands way more than I anticipated
2- Rake is way higher too(lol jokestars, my chests are going nuts when I play that game)
3- 4-handed in that game is insane, edges probably go very high when playing 4 handed with 2 whales + 1 reg. As crazy as it sounds, if the lineup changes to 3 whales + you, it reduces the EV a lot, because if 3 people enter the pot and only you have folded, the unfold pot will come back to everyone else.
4- The EV whales donate to the table increases exponentially as new whales are added into the game. The catch is like this: if there are lots of people with an idea of how to play the game, then the whale won't be able to butcher as many hands(as people aren't calling much, they're playing 3-bet or fold). Now if another whale joins the game, they start butchering hands with each other and seeing a lot of flops, donating way more EV to the unfold pot. Also the EV of mw pots goes up a lot when there's more than 2 people looking at the flop. If you fold in a 6-max game and 4 people see the flop, you will have only 1 villain fighting for 1.8bb.

5- Unfold pots are way more complex than I thought, there's some extra metagame going on with those, specially with 2-3 people fighting for the unfold pot(with more people fighting we have to play more straightforward). Vs some guys I was unfolding 9 high because I thought the guy was giving up a lot, the problem is that if villain adapts, then rake becomes even more insane than it is haha.

I'm enjoying playing that, think I have an edge and a lot of fun players are playing. The sad part is that it's not running that often, having trouble starting new tables at 100 and 200 unfoldem. Whenever I see tables running, I'll play, probably mix 1 zoom and 1 unfoldem.

Also I can't play 2 zoom tables + 1 unfoldem table, the unfold button is very fast, gotta be watching it almost all the time. Tried it for a while and I was missing around 50% of the unfolds

Just as an example of how +EV it can be: there was a hand where I folded J4o, people went nuts pre-flop and some people folded and snap tilted and tried to win the unfold pot. Got it in with J4o on A24 vs 4 people with 50% equity. LOL! It's so sick to see j4o fold pre and scoop a 10bb pot