You had to go through a million ****ty donkament hands to learn that you can float then stab a lot vs players with a weird wide range who bluff too much?

At first I felt sorry for the readers that actually contributed. Now I just feel sorry for op.

I don't understand how analyzing $0.25 donkament hands is going to help your 200z game?

OP has finally cracked up. Even Xenodonk has stopped bothering defending him.

I feel like the hours rapid spends writing these walls of text for 0.25 sngs are better off spent quite literally doing anything else. Read a book, listen to music. Jesus. Strong troll.

Useful studies itt

I would suggest getting a sample of 100nl with good results if you don't have it already , then move up to 200nl and do the same. On the way study the regs game don't study fish you will understand fish plays and patterns intuitively as you play more poker.

Is it so hard to believe you can learn a lot by studying poorly played hands? When I see leaks, I see opportunity, and I had information on a player with insane leaks that are probably still very common in every fish and regs too.

Just giving you guys some info on what I learned by studying rapifish's super wide cbets OTF for a big sizing.

Do you know why people can cbet range on a lot of boards for a small(25%-33%) sizing? And why they can't do that for a big one? Like as an example, 75% which rapifish was doing a lot. Before doing all this work, this was my reasoning to why people can't do that:



After all that work, some thought and some flopzilla and pokerstove stuff, I realized that it's not because of that. That's basically my most obvious exploit, which is what I should be doing, but not the origins of the problem.

Im happy you learned something, but you could literally sit for 10min, think through why exactly villain isnt supposed to cbet large with his whole range in most spots, and come to the same conclusion. You didnt need to go through ridiculous amount of playmoney hands.

Lex veldhuis did a similar thing, it was super fun and very +ev

Now some calculations I've made about that:
Let's consider it's BTN vs BB, with these ranges, BB can only respond to call or fold, BTN can bet for 25% sizing with range or 100% sizing with range only.

BTN pre-flop range:



BB pre-flop calling range:



Equities OTF before betting happens(player 1 = BTN, player 2 = BB):



BB defense vs 25% sizing



Equities after calling the 25% sizing



BB defense vs 100% sizing



Equities after calling the 100% sizing




First, I've made the defenses somewhat close to what I think are ok in real life, expecting people to bet small range or big a polarized range. So BB is defending 73% vs a 25% sizing and 41.6% vs a pot sized cbet OTF. The thing is that in this analysis BB doesn't know BTN is betting range for that sick sizing, so it's likely that he is overfolding vs that. Also by not having x/r in the equation it changes a bit too.

Then these were the results for BTN(consider pot = 1):

EV before betting starts: = 0.52



EV after 25% cbet = 0.551



EV after 100% cbet = 0.6099

What can you guys see from that? Basically that's the exact opposite of what my conclusions were: BTN is having an increase in EV by making a mistake. But the reason of that is because BB isn't playing well vs his strat, he is overfolding. The BB's defense strat that I chose were considering if villain is betting TP+ and some bluffs, with a checking back range, he isn't expected to defend that much vs that and can fold, specially vs the big sizing.

But if opponent is betting range for pot OTF, then things get tricky: by defending that few hands, he will lose a bigger share of the pot against a range that shouldn't own that much! Now I've made BB defend the same vs a 25% range cbet and vs a 100% range cbet.

Here are the results for BTN after BB started defending 63% vs his pot sized range cbets:



EV after 100% cbet(vs good defense strat) = 0.516

Final results for comparison(BTN EV OTF vs all strats)

EV before betting starts: = 0.52
EV after 25% cbet = 0.551
EV after 100% cbet(vs bad defense strat) = 0.6099
EV after 100% cbet(vs good defense strat) = 0.516

So that's it.
Ofc these calculations were very simple and don't consider stuff like playability, position and x/r OTF. Those variables should change a lot of how stuff is played. But the idea here is just to see the concept and try to extrapolate later into different spots. It's more like a poker philosophy thing. Also it's good to know I was playing very poorly vs those pot sized cbets from whales. I was getting exploited like crazy, should focus on stationing them waaaaaaay more.
Also it's interesting to see that some whales are massibely printing OTF by range cbetting for a pot sized bet. ofc they donate everything later haha.


See? 0.25 sngs and play money hands can make a lot of sick insights happen!

You play 200nl and only now realised why you can’t range bet for a large size?

Yes, I used to think like that because people could exploit us back, but now I understood the fundamentals of why it's bad in theory.

But in practice that strat is way stronger than it is in theory, it's quite hard to defend vs that.

lul

Lex plays mtts.

Talked to a friend that lives across the street, his internet is super ****ed up, meh. Will call the internet company tomorrow. Will analyze my database if the internet keeps like this. I'm thinking about going deeper in looking at my leaks in my 100z-200z sample, but I'm still tempted to analyze more of the first hands I played in poker lol. Too much gold in there, still need to analyze what rapifish was donking with, check back and bet bet, how he was calling barrels.

If I'm working in any leaks from my 200z sample it will be how often I'm bluffing after call cbet, x/x and bet river, also how I'm cbet, checking back and folding.

Anyways, I'm closing the month, chances are that the internet will keep terrible tomorrow. Volume was very bad mostly because of my winning tilt, couldn't play much after winning big. Also this internet stuff just took 5 days off my month. Overall I was quite lazy and had the worst volume month so far since I took my first shots at 50z. Will focus on playing more, will try to play 40k hands next month.


Here is my graph for the month



200z so far



Running very well in all-ins, sadly I couldn't make a lot of hero folds that were very obvious vs fish. I think that whenever I get some heat, I get super confident and start making bad calls. I have some strats that I learned with the play money and $0.25 SnG hands that I want to apply, let's see how this donk knowledge does on 200z haha!

Graph since april(when the heater started)

Why you call your formerself rapidfish... your still a fish to population with more experience. Hopefully one day you become good. You should be allready...
Have you tought about how other players act in youre thread compare to others? Has something to do with respect for youre game.

Plus that statement isn’t always valid

Cmon, vo2max, are you possessed or something? Cant barely see english mistakes in this post and it has close to 0 meme potential. Lol

vaaaamoooo!

INTERNET IS BACK, BOYS!!!

the legend is back!

Gonna do a quick analysis in my 200z database, study some law then will fire 200z!!

meanwhile in 200z




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Why didn't you just contact another player and analyse their 200z hand sample or something similar to that?

Playing 0.25 sng and play money to learn/apply strat seems like a complete and utter waste of time, I mean what can you possibly learn/apply there that you can apply to 200z?

Why you keep posting on a thread that everybody is putting you down? Seems like you have confidence issues need to prove something to the whole world.

I post because of the good people that come here to help me, give advice on strat and cheer me up. It doesnt matter if 90% of the posts are negative, the 10% positive ones make up for that. So far Ive improved a lot by posting here, also its good to keep track of my progress to see it later.

You are so full of yourself. And this is why you Get ****. This is why you still sux at poker. Every hand you argue about, because you think you GOT it. Why post the hands? Hidden Brags all over the place of poorly player hands.walls n walls of text in every subforum with your stupid analyses with zero calculation or sims behind. Without mirage this thread would be dead. So you should be humble towrds him. Oh i forgot youre a little sick in the brain so you speak with yourself if you have to.
Point is your attitude is beyond enoying! Going into wars with those who actually CARE to bother give any analyse. Because brain fart of the week is limp, 3 bet , donk or whatever so you know best. Punk!

Thats what I was talking about!

Vaaaamoooooo