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06-28-2018 , 05:36 AM
Scroll past them? Lol
06-28-2018 , 06:02 AM
How long did you spend analyzing those play money hands?
06-28-2018 , 09:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick93
How long did you spend analyzing those play money hands?
6-7 hours, analyzed 700 so far.
And its not play money, most of them are .25 sngs

this is by far the most insightful and productive study time Ive had. When Im done I expect to have a big boost in my winrate.
06-28-2018 , 10:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by herbalerv
Yeah for once he is right , you are butchering your own thread with walls and walls of these hands that are a new level of TLDR,

one or two hands would have sufficed
Right now I need a place to post them so I can review later. In the end I will make a post with all reads I got and some examples, as well as counterstrategies.

It may sound insane, but the only type of people I godmode are big nits, imo Im as confused(if not more) playing vs fish as when Im facing top regs like isramalzetov, jakeeeee.
Sure, Im +ev vs fish and -ev vs those regs, but I dont make the maximum off fish. I probably beat them by 5-20 bbs/100, while an expert in owning fish could beat them for more than 40bbs. But Im probably losing way less vs these top regs than the average reg at 200z loses too. If Im capable of owning a fishs soul all the time, I expect ny winrate to go up at least by 2bb/100.
06-28-2018 , 10:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
6-7 hours, analyzed 700 so far.
And its not play money, most of them are .25 sngs

this is by far the most insightful and productive study time Ive had. When Im done I expect to have a big boost in my winrate.
Yes because micro full ring sng's have a lot of relevance to 6 max 200nl. There you go again with such a level of stupidity that makes me suspicious we are all getting trolled again.
06-28-2018 , 10:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
Yes because micro full ring sng's have a lot of relevance to 6 max 200nl. There you go again with such a level of stupidity that makes me suspicious we are all getting trolled again.
My internet is at 24 kbps, cant even log at stars. And poker is poker, it doesnt matter if youre playing nl2 or nl200, sure, regs and regfish are better, but the fish is the same. I often tightened up a lot vs fish because I wasnt confident in playing vs them.
06-28-2018 , 12:57 PM
Soooooo, back at analyzing the hands! I'm almost finishing limped pots, SRP will be more interesting and 3-bet pots will be gold imo.

H46: same ****, min-3-bet OTF and check back OTT, afraid of the flush. We should just donk-jam turn vs that if we have a flush. Even for 4x pot the fish won't fold his sets imo

PokerStars - 10/20 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

ricardoseal (CO): 75 BB
Reubinator85 (BTN): 74 BB
cleuberfranc (SB): 66 BB
kasper k79 (BB): 74 BB
iamscrounge (UTG): 75 BB
Rapidesh123 (UTG+1): 75 BB
TargetRun (MP): 86 BB
funny1919 (MP+1): 75 BB
dbigcesar (MP+2): 75 BB

cleuberfranc posts SB 0.5 BB, kasper k79 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has 4 4

iamscrounge calls 1 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, cleuberfranc raises to 3 BB, kasper k79 calls 2 BB, iamscrounge calls 2 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 2 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 4 players) 7 Q 4
cleuberfranc checks, kasper k79 checks, iamscrounge checks, Rapidesh123 bets 9 BB, cleuberfranc raises to 18 BB, fold, fold, Rapidesh123 raises to 32 BB, cleuberfranc calls 14 BB

Turn: (76 BB, 2 players) A
cleuberfranc checks, Rapidesh123 checks

River: (76 BB, 2 players) 3
cleuberfranc bets 11 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 11 BB

Spoiler:
cleuberfranc shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 81%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
Rapidesh123 mucks 4 4 (Three of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 19%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
cleuberfranc wins 98 BB


H47: the small raise with the flush in a paired board, really sick read, I think that in that spot I'll be able to maximize value and avoid tons of coolers vs fish. Also x back OTT to slowplay is sooo frequent with the flush

PokerStars - 10/20 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Aversev (UTG+1): 75 BB
superparen80 (MP): 73.5 BB
Vulkan758 (MP+1): 73.5 BB
Chudo 1988 (CO): 73.5 BB
sapios14 (BTN): 93.5 BB
tengo92 (SB): 74 BB
bassmanstran (BB): 71 BB
Rapidesh123 (UTG): 141 BB

tengo92 posts SB 0.5 BB, bassmanstran posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has Q 9

Rapidesh123 calls 1 BB, Aversev calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, bassmanstran checks

Flop: (3.5 BB, 3 players) A 5 8
bassmanstran bets 3 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 3 BB, Aversev calls 3 BB

Turn: (12.5 BB, 3 players) 6
bassmanstran checks, Rapidesh123 checks, Aversev checks

River: (12.5 BB, 3 players) 5
bassmanstran bets 10 BB, Rapidesh123 raises to 25 BB, fold, bassmanstran raises to 67 BB and is all-in, Rapidesh123 calls 42 BB

Spoiler:
bassmanstran shows A 5 (Full House, Fives full of Aces)
(Pre 55%, Flop 68%, Turn 9%)
Rapidesh123 shows Q 9 (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 45%, Flop 32%, Turn 91%)
bassmanstran wins 146.5 BB



H48: this hand, lol! Can't understand WTF is going on. OTT I thought villain would check a lot, because his value hands are afraid of the flush, but he kept betting, so he probably had some sort of bluff.Rapifish obv calling a gutter vs 2x overbet lol. Donk river jam is very tough to call, meh. But I've seen a lot of flushes min-raise turn, I've seen as well some flushes call turn and donk river too.

PokerStars - 10/20 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

osmarogo (MP): 277 BB
antonioter (MP+1): 74.5 BB
xik_ilse (MP+2): 74 BB
4A Andre (CO): 74.5 BB
Carlos240142 (BTN): 67.4 BB
S.Almoas (SB): 74 BB
luisafergar (BB): 75 BB
Rapidesh123 (UTG): 106.6 BB
quiquito16 (UTG+1): 74.5 BB

S.Almoas posts SB 0.5 BB, luisafergar posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has K T

Rapidesh123 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Carlos240142 calls 1 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (3.5 BB, 2 players) A J 9
Rapidesh123 checks, Carlos240142 bets 8 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 8 BB

Turn: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 5
Rapidesh123 checks, Carlos240142 bets 15 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 15 BB

River: (49.5 BB, 2 players) T
Rapidesh123 bets 82.6 BB and is all-in, Carlos240142 calls 43.4 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Rapidesh123 shows K T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 64%, Flop 27%, Turn 11%)
Carlos240142 shows J 8 (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 36%, Flop 73%, Turn 89%)
Carlos240142 wins 136.3 BB



H49: another donk lead OTT with weak SDV, probably a hand turned into a bluff because of the "scary card", and x give up OTR. It seems that we should raise a lot of leads OTT with our bluffs and call with our weak SDV hands and try to see some cheap showdown vs give ups. River is probably underbluffed with that line unless a 4th diamond comes imo

PokerStars - 15/30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Alex25282 (UTG+1): 48 BB
QQQ812 (MP): 130.6 BB
Dismay_pro (MP+1): 59.17 BB
xx131oboxx (MP+2): 42.17 BB
azmarachp (CO): 55.67 BB
Quinee (BTN): 135.5 BB
kirillof-nik (SB): 43.5 BB
Bedia76 (BB): 25.67 BB
Rapidesh123 (UTG): 82.13 BB

kirillof-nik posts SB 0.5 BB, Bedia76 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has 7 7

Rapidesh123 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Dismay_pro raises to 3 BB, fold, azmarachp calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Rapidesh123 calls 2 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 3 players) Q 8 4
Rapidesh123 checks, Dismay_pro bets 5.23 BB, fold, Rapidesh123 calls 5.23 BB

Turn: (20.97 BB, 2 players) 6
Rapidesh123 bets 15.7 BB, Dismay_pro calls 15.7 BB

River: (52.37 BB, 2 players) 9
Rapidesh123 checks, Dismay_pro bets 35.23 BB and is all-in, fold

Dismay_pro wins 52.37 BB

H50: dat stab, check, line, rapifish was way more balanced than I thought lol! pot OTF, check and pot river. I've seen that line with overpairs a lot in the tables. But usually there's a sizing difference, when the fish is bluffing OTR is usually 50%. Also even if the fish played exactly the same with his value and bluffs I expect to see that line as heavily bluffed because of how often clubs check turn.

PokerStars - 15/30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Punk Stein (SB): 94 BB
CattadeMoron (BB): 38.67 BB
Marcovech239 (UTG): 54.33 BB
Rapidesh123 (UTG+1): 65.67 BB
ogro13770 (MP): 151.33 BB
cavasquez196 (MP+1): 49 BB
cuervonomas (MP+2): 49 BB
DALLKY (CO): 100.67 BB
WUAKIL (BTN): 48.33 BB

Punk Stein posts SB 0.5 BB, CattadeMoron posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has A A

fold, Rapidesh123 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, WUAKIL calls 1 BB, Punk Stein calls 0.5 BB, CattadeMoron checks

Flop: (4 BB, 4 players) T 4 2
Punk Stein checks, CattadeMoron checks, Rapidesh123 bets 6 BB, fold, Punk Stein calls 6 BB, fold

Turn: (16 BB, 2 players) 4
Punk Stein checks, Rapidesh123 checks

River: (16 BB, 2 players) 6
Punk Stein checks, Rapidesh123 bets 16 BB, Punk Stein calls 16 BB

Spoiler:
Rapidesh123 shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Fours)
(Pre 81%, Flop 89%, Turn 100%)
Punk Stein mucks 6 7 (Two Pair, Sixes and Fours)
(Pre 19%, Flop 11%, Turn 0%)
Rapidesh123 wins 48 BB


H51: bluff working on rapifish, lol! From the hands we've seen so far it's likely villain has a slowplay OTT, or a draw that raise flop, see the bdfd OTT and checked and got there. Mostly FH imo. Funny to see rapifish folding this, probably was afraid of the flush. I don't know if bluffing OTR when the flush comes is really useful vs fish because of the insanely ******ed calls I've seen so far lol.


PokerStars - 10/20 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Rapidesh123 (UTG): 178.5 BB
Patlabor (UTG+1): 148.5 BB
RogerNegro (MP): 303 BB
crsoe (MP+1): 139 BB
turk62 (CO): 148.5 BB
Zipunnik (BTN): 137 BB
Alemar_XXX (SB): 142 BB
sylvioleone (BB): 153.5 BB

Alemar_XXX posts SB 0.5 BB, sylvioleone posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has T A

Rapidesh123 calls 1 BB, fold, RogerNegro raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, sylvioleone calls 2 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) A Q 8
sylvioleone checks, Rapidesh123 bets 7.1 BB, RogerNegro raises to 23 BB, fold, Rapidesh123 calls 15.9 BB

Turn: (55.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Rapidesh123 checks, RogerNegro checks

River: (55.5 BB, 2 players) 6
Rapidesh123 checks, RogerNegro bets 38.75 BB, fold

RogerNegro wins 55.5 BB


H52: was really thinking rapifish would check this back OTR, but it seems that whenever you get a boner with your hand, it's hard to stop betting lol. Also fish won't care that much about bdfd when they have a good hand? But could still be afraid when they have a bluffcatcher?

PokerStars - 25/50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

ber1212 (BTN): 70.94 BB
Danbucko (SB): 45.2 BB
alanthegreen (BB): 107.5 BB
Rapidesh123 (UTG): 44.58 BB
scroll84 (MP): 56.72 BB
Kyllachy (CO): 95.04 BB

Danbucko posts SB 0.5 BB, alanthegreen posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has 5 A

Rapidesh123 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, alanthegreen checks

Flop: (2.5 BB, 2 players) Q 5 A
alanthegreen bets 2.5 BB, Rapidesh123 raises to 6 BB, alanthegreen calls 3.5 BB

Turn: (14.5 BB, 2 players) 8
alanthegreen checks, Rapidesh123 bets 10.86 BB, alanthegreen calls 10.86 BB

River: (36.22 BB, 2 players) J
alanthegreen checks, Rapidesh123 bets 26.72 BB and is all-in, alanthegreen calls 26.72 BB

Spoiler:
Rapidesh123 shows 5 A (Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
(Pre 29%, Flop 70%, Turn 83%)
alanthegreen shows A J (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 71%, Flop 30%, Turn 17%)
alanthegreen wins 89.66 BB


H53: GTO pre-flop play lol!

PokerStars - 15/30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Rapidesh123 (UTG): 148.5 BB
MaskA07 (UTG+1): 106 BB
LUCA VA06 (MP): 38.67 BB
Equis160 (MP+1): 177.67 BB
marope64 (MP+2): 133.5 BB
myopoker (CO): 38.17 BB
JorJR (BTN): 29.33 BB
MartinMony (SB): 129 BB
hyoga127 (BB): 33.5 BB

MartinMony posts SB 0.5 BB, hyoga127 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has 2 8

Rapidesh123 calls 1 BB, MaskA07 raises to 106 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Rapidesh123 calls 105 BB

Flop: (213.5 BB, 2 players) Q 9 3

Turn: (213.5 BB, 2 players) 9

River: (213.5 BB, 2 players) 2

Spoiler:
Rapidesh123 shows 2 8 (Two Pair, Nines and Twos)
(Pre 31%, Flop 7%, Turn 0%)
MaskA07 shows Q T (Two Pair, Queens and Nines)
(Pre 69%, Flop 93%, Turn 100%)
MaskA07 wins 213.5 BB



H54: this happened right after H53 HAHA not much strat in those 2, but they're fun haha

PokerStars - 15/30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Rapidesh123 (UTG+1): 235.33 BB
MaskA07 (MP): 106 BB
LUCA VA06 (MP+1): 38.67 BB
Equis160 (MP+2): 86.83 BB
marope64 (CO): 134.5 BB
myopoker (BTN): 38.17 BB
JorJR (SB): 30.33 BB
MartinMony (BB): 130 BB
hyoga127 (UTG): 34.5 BB

JorJR posts SB 0.5 BB, MartinMony posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has J 9

hyoga127 calls 1 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Equis160 calls 1 BB, marope64 calls 1 BB, fold, JorJR calls 0.5 BB, MartinMony checks

Flop: (6 BB, 6 players) 5 A 4
JorJR checks, MartinMony checks, hyoga127 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 234.33 BB and is all-in, Equis160 calls 85.83 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold

Turn: (177.67 BB, 2 players) T

River: (177.67 BB, 2 players) 4

Spoiler:
Rapidesh123 shows J 9 (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 43%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Equis160 shows A 7 (Two Pair, Aces and Fours)
(Pre 57%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
Equis160 wins 177.67 BB


H55: already saw the river donk coming, even in 3-bet pots I think we could fold in a spot like that with AK

PokerStars - 75/150 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

De castro189 (BB): 17.9 BB
apostol72apo (UTG): 62.11 BB
Rapidesh123 (UTG+1): 27.07 BB
matriculado (MP): 35.1 BB
andrea66666 (MP+1): 37.81 BB
kiradj (CO): 64.58 BB
Widzewek1910 (BTN): 26.19 BB
Squikes (SB): 14.8 BB

Squikes posts SB 0.5 BB, De castro189 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has J Q

apostol72apo calls 1 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, Widzewek1910 calls 1 BB, fold, De castro189 checks

Flop: (4.5 BB, 4 players) 5 K T
De castro189 checks, apostol72apo checks, Rapidesh123 checks, Widzewek1910 bets 4 BB, fold, fold, Rapidesh123 calls 4 BB

Turn: (12.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Rapidesh123 checks, Widzewek1910 bets 8 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 8 BB

River: (28.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Rapidesh123 bets 14.07 BB and is all-in, Widzewek1910 calls 13.19 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Rapidesh123 shows J Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 44%, Flop 34%, Turn 30%)
Widzewek1910 shows 6 K (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 56%, Flop 66%, Turn 70%)
Rapidesh123 wins 54.89 BB


H56: it's funny to see the min-raise, then getting super afraid of the flush, but then thinking, "hey, I have trips, vaaaaamo!" lol. So random haha. Whenever a fish checks OOP OTR after being the aggressor OTT, theyr x range is sooooo strong.

PokerStars - 10/20 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Lopanes (MP+1): 22.75 BB
japodolores (CO): 86.25 BB
guiller588 (BTN): 66.25 BB
Rapidesh123 (SB): 46 BB
Rundycap2 (BB): 73.5 BB
Fenix846 (UTG): 121 BB
7stomatolog7 (UTG+1): 56.5 BB
Jawbreaker70 (MP): 98.5 BB

Rapidesh123 posts SB 0.5 BB, Rundycap2 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has 6 4

fold, fold, Jawbreaker70 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, guiller588 calls 1 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 0.5 BB, Rundycap2 checks

Flop: (4 BB, 4 players) 8 4 T
Rapidesh123 checks, Rundycap2 checks, Jawbreaker70 bets 3 BB, fold, Rapidesh123 calls 3 BB, fold

Turn: (10 BB, 2 players) 4
Rapidesh123 checks, Jawbreaker70 bets 4 BB, Rapidesh123 raises to 8 BB, Jawbreaker70 calls 4 BB

River: (26 BB, 2 players) 5
Rapidesh123 checks, Jawbreaker70 bets 4 BB, Rapidesh123 raises to 34 BB and is all-in, Jawbreaker70 calls 30 BB

Spoiler:
Rapidesh123 shows 6 4 (Three of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 31%, Flop 54%, Turn 68%)
Jawbreaker70 shows 6 7 (Straight Flush, Eight High)
(Pre 69%, Flop 46%, Turn 32%)
Jawbreaker70 wins 94 BB



H57: these pot sized donks OTT on random cards, I've seen a lot of weird 2-pairs that got there OTT when that happened, but also saw a 2x pot donk OTT that was a hand turned into a bluff that called a jam after that haha.

PokerStars - 15/30 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Rapidesh123 (SB): 92.43 BB
azin15 (BB): 57.9 BB
david yimi (UTG): 38.4 BB
GURIJRFERAS (UTG+1): 42.47 BB
MtlHabsRules (MP): 43.67 BB
Certh (MP+1): 43 BB
LuckyTomik (CO): 93.03 BB
Revolverh103 (BTN): 39.1 BB

Rapidesh123 posts SB 0.5 BB, azin15 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has 7 9

fold, GURIJRFERAS calls 1 BB, fold, fold, LuckyTomik calls 1 BB, fold, Rapidesh123 calls 0.5 BB, azin15 checks

Flop: (4 BB, 4 players) 9 2 Q
Rapidesh123 checks, azin15 checks, GURIJRFERAS bets 1 BB, fold, Rapidesh123 calls 1 BB, fold

Turn: (6 BB, 2 players) 7
Rapidesh123 bets 6 BB, GURIJRFERAS calls 6 BB

River: (18 BB, 2 players) 3
Rapidesh123 bets 23 BB, GURIJRFERAS calls 23 BB

Spoiler:
Rapidesh123 shows 7 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Sevens)
(Pre 27%, Flop 23%, Turn 86%)
GURIJRFERAS mucks 9 T (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 73%, Flop 77%, Turn 14%)
Rapidesh123 wins 64 BB



Finished the limped pots, now will see some ones I raised pre-flop.
06-28-2018 , 01:39 PM
lul
06-28-2018 , 01:41 PM
I think literally anything else would be a better use of time. What is the point of this?
06-28-2018 , 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shimano Daiwa
I think literally anything else would be a better use of time. What is the point of this?
find exploits/patterns/tendencies on fish? What do you think would be better to impact my winrate? I've already watched an insane amount of RIO videos, still review some hands in a study group and look at the material brokenstars sent me.

I could analyze 200z regs and look on exploits vs them or see if I'm underbluffing or overbluffing in some spots, but I have a reasonable idea of how to play vs them and how they think. While I have absolutely no clue on how to exploit fish super big on these marginal spots. The only thing I do vs fish is to just valuebet a lot and don't pay them off as much, but I'm pretty sure they're bluffing me off the pot a lot and overbluffing like crazy and getting folds vs me.
06-28-2018 , 01:53 PM
this is aids
06-28-2018 , 02:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
find exploits/patterns/tendencies on fish? What do you think would be better to impact my winrate? I've already watched an insane amount of RIO videos, still review some hands in a study group and look at the material brokenstars sent me.

I could analyze 200z regs and look on exploits vs them or see if I'm underbluffing or overbluffing in some spots, but I have a reasonable idea of how to play vs them and how they think. While I have absolutely no clue on how to exploit fish super big on these marginal spots. The only thing I do vs fish is to just valuebet a lot and don't pay them off as much, but I'm pretty sure they're bluffing me off the pot a lot and overbluffing like crazy and getting folds vs me.

Oh Ok so it seems you really are this ******ed, and do seem to think micro sng's, had some relevance to how 100z+ fish play despite the whole format, stack sizes, ranges, stakes being totally different, just because they are all 'fish'.

Here is a ground breaking suggestion for you. Why the fk are you not analyzing the hands from the fish at the actual zoom games you play?
06-28-2018 , 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
Here is a ground breaking suggestion for you. Why the fk are you not analyzing the hands from the fish at the actual zoom games you play?
because the sample is small, really hard to find and I can't see what they folded
06-28-2018 , 03:57 PM
Since there are way more hands rapifish raised pre, I'll first make a macro analysis and separate by spots. The spots I'll analyze will be bet bet bet as the PFR, cbet and check back, how rapifish played facing flop raises, check bet bet and how he played raising a cbet

In the bet bet bet line as the pfr, there were 12 value hands and only 1 bluff, and the bluff was in a HU $3.50 sng lol

H58: The bluff hand, river was such a sick bluff. Gotta pay attention to the hand selection, fish bluff with 0 equity hands, so even a very ****ty runnout wouldn't change that much. In fact, the ****tier the runnout, the easier for the fish to bluff

PokerStars - 10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Tilki1 (BB): 79 BB
Rapidesh123 (SB): 71 BB

Rapidesh123 posts SB 0.5 BB, Tilki1 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has T 3

Rapidesh123 raises to 2 BB, Tilki1 calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 7 K 8
Tilki1 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 3 BB, Tilki1 calls 3 BB

Turn: (10 BB, 2 players) J
Tilki1 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 7 BB, Tilki1 calls 7 BB

River: (24 BB, 2 players) K
Tilki1 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 38 BB, Tilki1 calls 38 BB

Spoiler:
Rapidesh123 shows T 3 (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 36%, Flop 3%, Turn 5%)
Tilki1 shows T 7 (Two Pair, Kings and Sevens)
(Pre 64%, Flop 97%, Turn 95%)
Tilki1 wins 100 BB



H59: So far a lot of the double barrels are TPWK and midpairs, there are some random draws, but very few, the majority of the range is like second pair type of hands. It seems that we shouldn't fold TPWK vs that, also we should donk river after improving at a high frequency because we can't expect the fish to barrel a lot OTR, so far there are insane amounts of give ups in there. Sick bluff lol.

PokerStars - 75/150 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

krotik999 (BTN): 17.67 BB
macao09 (SB): 4.97 BB
myst179 (BB): 42.87 BB
climvet (UTG): 16.7 BB
Tipatushka (UTG+1): 4.1 BB
naruto9009 (MP): 41.47 BB
TTrans (MP+1): 15.2 BB
WoOoHoOo90 (MP+2): 5 BB
Rapidesh123 (CO): 40.33 BB

macao09 posts SB 0.5 BB, myst179 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has J 8

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Rapidesh123 raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, myst179 calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.5 BB, 2 players) T T 4
myst179 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 2 BB, myst179 raises to 4 BB, Rapidesh123 raises to 8 BB, myst179 calls 4 BB

Turn: (20.5 BB, 2 players) A
myst179 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 10 BB, fold

Rapidesh123 wins 20.5 BB


H60: My guess is that with that much SDV in their double barreling range, when they check after cbetting flop, they will have A LOT of crap. Later will try to make some ranges and see how would be the best way to float fish OOP and bluff the river, like which sizing would be best to bluff. Also could use different valuebet sizings to always get called by their SDV with our valuebets. Sick fold by rapifish in this one, but it was MW and the guy probably had it lol.

PokerStars - 10/20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

ber1212 (SB): 150.5 BB
Danbucko (BB): 149.5 BB
czazar (UTG): 163 BB
Rapidesh123 (MP): 140 BB
Bar N' Pub (CO): 143 BB
cep27 (BTN): 154 BB

ber1212 posts SB 0.5 BB, Danbucko posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has A 9

fold, Rapidesh123 raises to 2.5 BB, fold, cep27 calls 2.5 BB, ber1212 calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 3 players) 2 T J
ber1212 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 6.35 BB, cep27 calls 6.35 BB, ber1212 calls 6.35 BB

Turn: (27.55 BB, 3 players) A
ber1212 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 20.65 BB, fold, ber1212 calls 20.65 BB

River: (68.85 BB, 2 players) 8
ber1212 bets 34.4 BB, fold

ber1212 wins 68.85 BB

H61: there are some bluffs OTT, specially when an J, Q, K or A came in there, but the range has waaaay more value in there lol. Btw, insane fold OTR in there, it probably was like that because it was ITM. Also I don't see how we can show up with bluffs in that spot, it's hard for us to have some +EV calls OTT that want to donk river

PokerStars - 15/30 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Rapidesh123 (UTG): 118.33 BB
azin15 (UTG+1): 49.4 BB
david yimi (MP): 39.4 BB
GURIJRFERAS (MP+1): 44.87 BB
MtlHabsRules (CO): 43.67 BB
Certh (BTN): 49 BB
LuckyTomik (SB): 63.33 BB
Revolverh103 (BB): 42 BB

LuckyTomik posts SB 0.5 BB, Revolverh103 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has A K

Rapidesh123 raises to 2.4 BB, fold, fold, GURIJRFERAS calls 2.4 BB, fold, fold, LuckyTomik calls 1.9 BB, Revolverh103 calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (9.6 BB, 4 players) 7 3 2
LuckyTomik checks, Revolverh103 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 4.3 BB, fold, LuckyTomik calls 4.3 BB, fold

Turn: (18.2 BB, 2 players) K
LuckyTomik checks, Rapidesh123 bets 18.2 BB, LuckyTomik calls 18.2 BB

River: (54.6 BB, 2 players) T
LuckyTomik bets 38.43 BB and is all-in, fold

LuckyTomik wins 54.6 BB


H62: sizing tell OTT, I've seen that a lot from fish, these small bets trying to draw for a cheap price with some FE, was already exploiting those

PokerStars - 30/60 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Rapidesh123 (BB): 51.05 BB
langey888 (UTG): 97.43 BB
ogotop76 (UTG+1): 95.42 BB
DrHouse223B (MP): 38.67 BB
hawk28687 (MP+1): 46.58 BB
klindgren1 (MP+2): 86.28 BB
Ashley Jones (CO): 57.93 BB
lovaty88 (BTN): 43.75 BB
Loze69 (SB): 188.97 BB

Loze69 posts SB 0.5 BB, Rapidesh123 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has Q A

langey888 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Rapidesh123 raises to 5 BB, langey888 calls 4 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 8 2 K
Rapidesh123 bets 3.47 BB, langey888 calls 3.47 BB

Turn: (17.43 BB, 2 players) T
Rapidesh123 bets 5.77 BB, fold

Rapidesh123 wins 17.43 BB


Finished raise pre + bet bet bet and bet bet pots, will take a look on cbet flop and check
06-28-2018 , 04:24 PM
Have to say I admire your attitude of just yearning to play poker, firing up play money tables when the internet is down, updating this thread regularly.

However, coming from someone who wasted one month playing play money at the start of his poker journey, and likes to play these micro micro games when he's bored: you're not gonna learn anything, people just don't care at that level.
06-28-2018 , 04:30 PM
this thread has reached a new level
06-28-2018 , 04:38 PM
OP lost in the woods. For the love of God just take a week or two off poker.
06-28-2018 , 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LTJfan99
Have to say I admire your attitude of just yearning to play poker, firing up play money tables when the internet is down, updating this thread regularly.

However, coming from someone who wasted one month playing play money at the start of his poker journey, and likes to play these micro micro games when he's bored: you're not gonna learn anything, people just don't care at that level.
I'm not playing play money, man lol. I'm reviewing my database to see how I played when started with poker, the first 33k hands I played.

How could I just limp-call 28o for 100bbs today lol
06-28-2018 , 05:51 PM
Level? Hope so for OP's sake.
06-28-2018 , 05:55 PM
freak
06-28-2018 , 06:00 PM
Analyzing cbet and check back hands

H63: sick bluff OTR lol. sizing is very wp imo. So insane to see rapifish find the best sizing in that spot with only intuition and 0 study. A lot of fish are very smart and way better poker players than we think they are.

PokerStars - 15/30 Ante 4 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

giooooo84 (SB): 329.87 BB
jaktpb13 (BB): 115.57 BB
noppie72 (UTG): 161.6 BB
Ruslan77S (UTG+1): 164.1 BB
pestokss (MP): 168.17 BB
erdmänchen75 (MP+1): 226.7 BB
Newca (CO): 181.8 BB
Rapidesh123 (BTN): 164.1 BB

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, giooooo84 posts SB 0.5 BB, jaktpb13 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.57 BB) Rapidesh123 has J A

fold, fold, fold, erdmänchen75 calls 1 BB, fold, Rapidesh123 raises to 5 BB, giooooo84 calls 4.5 BB, fold, erdmänchen75 calls 4 BB

Flop: (17.07 BB, 3 players) J K J
giooooo84 checks, erdmänchen75 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 15.33 BB, fold, erdmänchen75 calls 15.33 BB

Turn: (47.73 BB, 2 players) K
erdmänchen75 checks, Rapidesh123 checks

River: (47.73 BB, 2 players) K
erdmänchen75 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 143.63 BB and is all-in, erdmänchen75 calls 143.63 BB

Spoiler:
Rapidesh123 shows J A (Full House, Kings full of Jacks)
(Pre 68%, Flop 83%, Turn 98%)
erdmänchen75 shows A T (Full House, Kings full of Jacks)
(Pre 32%, Flop 17%, Turn 2%)
erdmänchen75 wins 167.5 BB
Rapidesh123 wins 167.5 BB



H64: insane fold by rapifish, can't believe he folded that lol. I don't know if usually fish fold in there, but some weaktight might. If fish is calling only with flushes it's already a very +EV bluff for us

PokerStars - 15/30 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Rapidesh123 (BTN): 124.6 BB
<J>ascha3141 (SB): 67.43 BB
VLADIMIR_171 (BB): 50.87 BB
budgie01 (UTG): 84.37 BB
ronchymula (UTG+1): 71.63 BB
Lokiana (MP): 94.9 BB
FeRrRrR077 (MP+1): 47.67 BB
ProfitRUS64 (CO): 47.7 BB

<J>ascha3141 posts SB 0.5 BB, VLADIMIR_171 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has 8 T

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Rapidesh123 raises to 2.5 BB, <J>ascha3141 calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 9 T 6
<J>ascha3141 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 3 BB, <J>ascha3141 calls 3 BB

Turn: (12 BB, 2 players) 2
<J>ascha3141 checks, Rapidesh123 checks

River: (12 BB, 2 players) J
<J>ascha3141 bets 8.23 BB, fold

<J>ascha3141 wins 12 BB


H65: I'm tracking the statistics of rapifish OTR, quite interesting to see, the funny thing is that so far OTR he will have a lot of value and yet he could find some random bluffs in there lol. On brick rivers rapifish didn't bluff yet, he has a narrow value range in there though. Funny to see that even fish are somewhat balanced with their lines, like capable of finding bluffs in spots where they have value. Ofc some fish can overbluff where they never have value haha

PokerStars - 15/30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

wes345 (UTG): 110 BB
eusklus (MP): 93.8 BB
Rapidesh123 (CO): 179.7 BB
jesmee1 (BTN): 216.83 BB
Tonystarks80 (SB): 95.93 BB
Slavil84 (BB): 115.57 BB

Tonystarks80 posts SB 0.5 BB, Slavil84 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has A 6

fold, fold, Rapidesh123 raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Slavil84 calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T 5 9
Slavil84 checks, Rapidesh123 bets 2.73 BB, Slavil84 calls 2.73 BB

Turn: (10.97 BB, 2 players) 8
Slavil84 checks, Rapidesh123 checks

River: (10.97 BB, 2 players) 2
Slavil84 bets 6 BB, Rapidesh123 raises to 18 BB, fold

Rapidesh123 wins 22.97 BB


H66: this is like the most GTO hand that I've found lol. X back with AA is sooooo good, sizing OTF is also good lol. Ofc the reasons for doing that are probably different from that

PokerStars - 10/20 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Rapidesh123 (CO): 161.5 BB
Patlabor (BTN): 149.5 BB
mofiz (SB): 149 BB
RogerNegro (BB): 150 BB
crsoe (UTG): 140 BB
Zipunnik (UTG+1): 150 BB
Alemar_XXX (MP): 150 BB
sylvioleone (MP+1): 150 BB

mofiz posts SB 0.5 BB, RogerNegro posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Rapidesh123 has A A

fold, fold, Alemar_XXX calls 1 BB, fold, Rapidesh123 raises to 5 BB, fold, mofiz calls 4.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (12 BB, 2 players) Q 8 7
mofiz checks, Rapidesh123 bets 12 BB, mofiz calls 12 BB

Turn: (36 BB, 2 players) Q
mofiz checks, Rapidesh123 checks

River: (36 BB, 2 players) 2
mofiz bets 11 BB, Rapidesh123 calls 11 BB

Spoiler:
mofiz shows A K (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 12%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Rapidesh123 shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 88%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
Rapidesh123 wins 58 BB
06-28-2018 , 06:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yasuo
this thread has reached a new level
ding ding
06-28-2018 , 06:11 PM
He's trying to bore mirage out of trolling him
06-28-2018 , 06:40 PM
I'm so confused man
06-28-2018 , 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
ding ding
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathorglory0
He's trying to bore mirage out of trolling him
Quote:
Originally Posted by mahsjdi
I'm so confused man
What's so strange? Learning sooo much by watching those hands, and not only how to exploit fish, but getting a greater understanding of poker and even gto stuff, like when analyzing some spots where little rapidesh was overfolding like crazy.

after today's studies, I ended up with this excel thing



Basically looked at all spots rapifish cbet flop and check back IP OTT, it's clear that rapifish cbets a lot, so he is likely weak after taking some specific actions. Since close to any TP and some midpair stuff keeps betting OTT and all draws are checking behind, it leaves him with a very very weak river range.

Basically villains could exploit it by betting any2 OTR. I wasn't doing that vs fish, will definitely try that exploit, as well as calling way more fish's cbets, even with naked 2 overs I expect it to be +EV, specially since people love to double barrel on overcards.

But it's not only that, by realizing that exploit which I was rarely using(floating way light OOP and leading rivers), I thought about how to defend vs that. One example is checking a lot of AA OTT to protect our checking range, that play is very common in PIO, which checks a lot OTT after cbetting flop with AA, saw some sims that it checks 50% of the time AA and some KK/QQ overpairs.

Also by doing that, we can raise river for value, and even more than that, by doing it for value, we can add some bluffs too, so for every 2 combos AA we slowplay OTT, we can add one combo of a bluff, increasing our defense frequency a lot OTR, specially vs tough opponents that will attack that weakness relentlessly. Now I see how some tough regs have a very low FCB stat without raising flop so much.

I also was playing a lot of my range as a raise OTF, which is weird, but people played poorly vs that. By adding this kind of play into my game I think I'll be tougher to play against. Let's see how it goes. For now I'll focus just on floating fish lighter, later will see what to do vs regs.

I'm not lost in the woods, I'm with no internet and trying to use my free time into something productive that will improve my game. As crazy as it sounds, these 2 days studying those stupid hands were insane.

vaaaaaaaaaaamooooooooo

Last edited by Rapidesh123; 06-28-2018 at 07:08 PM.

      
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