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06-21-2018 , 03:39 PM
A2 hand played perfectly vs exactly KJ imo
06-21-2018 , 03:46 PM
pretty clear call vs described villain though, it may even be a defend vs a properly balanced turn shoving range, A blocker non spade too good
06-21-2018 , 05:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Why did you call this?
Its a bad call preflop vs population and I mostly fold and 4bet sometimes but this guy was going bananas vs me, he 3bet-called a 4bet with 85s vs me too, he also was 3betting 75s and super ******ed postflop, vs that I thought it was a +ev call. Later I will ppst other hands I played vs him.
06-22-2018 , 09:20 AM
Found more these 2 hands vs the guy, the other ones were probably lost during the time stars hands were bugging

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 98.65 BB
SB: 461.79 BB
Hero (BB): 104.22 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 101.59 BB
CO: 44.09 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 4

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2.8 BB, Hero calls 1.8 BB

Flop: (5.6 BB, 2 players) 7 3 6
SB checks, Hero bets 2.77 BB, SB raises to 9.93 BB, Hero raises to 28.81 BB, SB calls 18.88 BB

Turn: (63.21 BB, 2 players) 2
SB bets 430.18 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 72.61 BB and is all-in

River: (208.43 BB, 2 players) K
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (208.43 BB, 2 players) K

SB shows T T (One Pair, Tens)
Board #1 (Pre 81%, Flop 9%, Turn 0%)
(One Pair, Tens)
Board #2 (Pre 80%, Flop 10%, Turn 0%)

Hero shows 5 4 (Straight, Seven High)
Board #1 (Pre 19%, Flop 91%, Turn 100%)
(Straight, Seven High)
Board #2 (Pre 20%, Flop 90%, Turn 100%)

Hero wins 103.53 BB
Hero wins 103.53 BB


PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 105.38 BB
SB: 67.2 BB
BB: 19.89 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 82.92 BB
CO: 161.15 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.99 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 161.15 BB and is all-in, fold

CO wins 19.5 BB



btw, found this one vs a weak player, his sizings were telling that he was soooo afraid of the flush lol "plz don't raise me!" VAAAAAAAMOO! haha

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 128.51 BB
BB: 99.5 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 108.53 BB
CO: 140.47 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB raises to 7 BB, Hero calls 4.68 BB

Flop: (14.5 BB, 2 players) T 9 6
BB bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (28.5 BB, 2 players) K
BB bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

River: (40.5 BB, 2 players) 5
BB bets 10 BB, Hero raises to 80 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 59.13 BB


Found also this one from yesterday, vs a reg that is probably paying a lot of attention into my game, he is a competent player, ofc has his leaks, but in this spot it's usually a good exploit to jam as a bluff and bet smaller for value. But we battle since 100z and he has shown me that he isn't letting me run him over, as well as being careful with his plays vs me. So vs that player I thought that the best approach was to just try to not make an obvious exploit and give him the opportunity to own me. Good play? Is my sizing fine? I thought AQ+ was an easy jam in there OTR

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 153.57 BB
Hero (SB): 103 BB
BB: 113.86 BB
UTG: 383.24 BB
MP: 113.1 BB
CO: 270.51 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) Q 6 8
Hero checks, BB bets 4.61 BB, Hero calls 4.61 BB

Turn: (27.21 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 8.56 BB, BB calls 8.56 BB

River: (44.33 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 80.84 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 42.96 BB
06-23-2018 , 11:25 AM
Played a lot yesterday, btw, in the last sessions I feel I'm getting massively owned, my plays look soooooo spewy, I don't know if I'm playing super well, meh. Too many floats, tough spots all the time, it's so hard.

Some hands I'm not sure I played well

H1: good call OTR? I don't know what to do vs those donks, meh. My thinking was that he had some missed draws

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 224.06 BB
SB: 58.53 BB
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 85.39 BB
CO: 100.78 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 1.82 BB, fold

Flop: (5.64 BB, 2 players) 2 4 T
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (5.64 BB, 2 players) J
SB checks, Hero bets 2.79 BB, SB calls 2.79 BB

River: (11.21 BB, 2 players) K
SB bets 10.65 BB, Hero calls 10.65 BB

Spoiler:
SB shows Q 8 (High Card, King)
(Pre 40%, Flop 21%, Turn 16%)
Hero shows J A (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 60%, Flop 79%, Turn 84%)
Hero wins 31.14 BB


H2: vs reg, wp? OTT vs his small sizing I had to raise that to deny a bit of positional advantage from him, so he couldn't valuebet super thin + check rivers and realize as much equity as he wants

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 127.24 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 100.5 BB
MP: 129.91 BB
CO: 115.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 Q

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.25 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.25 BB

Flop: (5 BB, 2 players) 9 8 2
Hero checks, CO bets 2.38 BB, Hero calls 2.38 BB

Turn: (9.75 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, CO bets 3.06 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, CO calls 7.95 BB

River: (31.75 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, CO bets 10.03 BB, Hero calls 10.03 BB

Spoiler:
CO shows 6 7 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 40%, Flop 35%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows 9 Q (Two Pair, Nines and Eights)
(Pre 60%, Flop 65%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins 50.43 BB



H3: vs unknown, probably fish, these guys are so nitty OTR that I thought he never was valuebetting an ace, good call?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 47.31 BB
SB: 136.24 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 122.33 BB
MP: 64.3 BB
CO: 128.13 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J T

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 6 9 7
Hero checks, MP bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (12.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, MP checks

River: (12.5 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, MP bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Spoiler:
MP shows A K (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 63%, Flop 60%, Turn 14%)
Hero mucks J T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 37%, Flop 40%, Turn 86%)
MP wins 23.28 BB


H4: same, meh, call or fold river? I really don't know what to do in this spot

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 102.5 BB
SB: 199.34 BB
BB: 345.58 BB
UTG: 84.24 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 307.15 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 9

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB calls 1.82 BB, fold

Flop: (5.64 BB, 2 players) Q T 8
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (5.64 BB, 2 players) 9
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (5.64 BB, 2 players) 5
SB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Spoiler:
SB shows 5 5 (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 50%, Flop 13%, Turn 26%)
Hero mucks T 9 (Two Pair, Tens and Nines)
(Pre 50%, Flop 87%, Turn 74%)
SB wins 14.86 BB



H5: vs reg, good fold? If we have K7, are we calling? Or should we only call with FHs vs his sizing?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 76.42 BB
SB: 58.77 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 119.59 BB
MP: 171.64 BB
CO: 90.42 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 3

UTG raises to 2.29 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.29 BB

Flop: (5.08 BB, 2 players) 7 3 K
Hero checks, UTG bets 1.21 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, UTG raises to 15.45 BB, Hero calls 9.45 BB

Turn: (35.98 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, UTG bets 11.95 BB, Hero calls 11.95 BB

River: (59.88 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, UTG bets 89.9 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 58.51 BB


H6: Good call? Meh, thought villain would barrel most of his straight draws OTT

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 104.07 BB
BB: 100.72 BB
UTG: 125.63 BB
MP: 92.58 BB
CO: 138.11 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 7

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 9 6 4
Hero checks, BB bets 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB

Turn: (11 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BB checks

River: (11 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BB bets 10.5 BB, Hero calls 10.5 BB

Spoiler:
BB shows 9 8 (Straight, Nine High)
(Pre 43%, Flop 84%, Turn 89%)
Hero mucks A 7 (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 57%, Flop 16%, Turn 11%)
BB wins 30.63 BB



H7: vs reg, I already know I should just fold vs him, because he is a nit and I confused him vs another player at the time I played the hand, probably even folding flop is fine, since his x/r was really low. But vs an aggro opponent, should I expect to see a lot of AK/AJ type of hands in there OTR? Should I expect villain to valuebet jam AA/AQ in there?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 113.95 BB
SB: 142.29 BB
BB: 93.24 BB
UTG: 153.3 BB
Hero (MP): 101.5 BB
CO: 207.36 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 3 players) 3 4 2
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 2.67 BB, fold, UTG raises to 9.38 BB, Hero calls 6.71 BB

Turn: (27.25 BB, 2 players) 9
UTG bets 19.42 BB, Hero calls 19.42 BB

River: (66.09 BB, 2 players) Q
UTG bets 122.01 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 70.21 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
UTG shows 5 A (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 33%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows T T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 67%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
UTG wins 205.13 BB
06-23-2018 , 12:55 PM
Lets see.

H2. Fold pre. Even a solid 2nl grinder would know better than defending Q9o vs CO. As played, that garbage raise size does nothing.

H3. Fold pre esp vs 64bb stack. As played, pot turn.

H5, Again fold pre. Do you notice you keep getting in awful spots calling pre oop with crap 'coz pot odds'? you shouldnt have a raising range on that flop also.

H6. how do you expect to make money xc that flop with that hand oop? lolz.

H7. 3bet pre, as played bet flop bigger, that garbage size is terrible esp 3 way, Turn can be a call but Id fold turn its KK+ at worst there. River call is awful. How often have you seen anyone take that line with AK/AJ? I never have anywhere.

Verdict. Time to start paying BrokenStars over time.

Last edited by mirage01; 06-23-2018 at 01:18 PM.
06-23-2018 , 01:12 PM
Why would you continue handing out free advice ITT for so long?

If it was any good at all you would not be sharing it or would be charging $$$.

The tone is just needlessly mean, it makes you come across as quite sad. Especially when OP is playing 10x your stakes on a much more difficult site.
06-23-2018 , 02:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathorglory0
Why would you continue handing out free advice ITT for so long?

If it was any good at all you would not be sharing it or would be charging $$$.

The tone is just needlessly mean, it makes you come across as quite sad. Especially when OP is playing 10x your stakes on a much more difficult site.
+1

Mirage, strat discussion is welcome in this thread, but make some effort in being polite
06-23-2018 , 02:12 PM
mirage has more to learn discussing strat than anyone else who posted here but I doubt he realizes that, he was only right for 2 out of his 5 attempts at giving advices, better than 0 I guess
06-23-2018 , 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
+1

Mirage, strat discussion is welcome in this thread, but make some effort in being polite
lol your really asking me that now after all this time? My post was pretty tame anyway.

Quote:
Why would you continue handing out free advice ITT for so long?
charity.
06-23-2018 , 02:30 PM
why would he take advice from someone who plays a good bit lower than him on a softer site though?

Its also not like you have just started poker, you have been playing for several years, how sad is that
06-23-2018 , 03:06 PM
He is free to ignore everything I say, as he has been. At least I play online poker unlike someone who just pretends like you do. That's as sad as it gets.
06-23-2018 , 03:12 PM
is that how your insecure little self protects itself? by telling yourself lies so that you don't have to face the fact that a lot of players on this board are a lot better than you are

I play online mate and I have been for 11 years
06-23-2018 , 03:30 PM
zero evidence that you do sorry.
06-23-2018 , 03:38 PM
I feel its sad all the great 2+2 wizards have no real input on the hands save for a salty 50nl grinder.
06-23-2018 , 03:39 PM
Yeah mirage is aids

Love the thread man , was critical before but really enjoy the hand histories and happy for you for your recent successes

Think hand 4 really interesting and as you say super tough spot, for so few bb think it is just interesting to see what hand he takes that line with, and obviously hard to expect 55
06-23-2018 , 03:43 PM
well I'm one of the few good players who still gives advices for free, I believe in being charitable
06-23-2018 , 04:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenoblade
well I'm one of the few good players who still gives advices for free, I believe in being charitable
You are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for your contribution to the poker community.
06-23-2018 , 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenoblade
why would he take advice from someone who plays a good bit lower than him on a softer site though?

Its also not like you have just started poker, you have been playing for several years, how sad is that
I think it's good to know how mirage thinks, because 70% of the people I play against think like him. I still have a lot to learn from microstakes players and even live regs lol.

But the approach here is to make some reverse engineering in their strats and find new exploits to beat people who play like that.
06-23-2018 , 05:58 PM
its not very complicated, he folds too much and he underbluffs just about every spot

some regs at mid and even high stakes still do that too but they squeeze a small winrate if they bumhunt enough
06-23-2018 , 06:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenoblade
well I'm one of the few good players who still gives advices for free, I believe in being charitable
Quote:
Originally Posted by yadrooolahCOGD
You are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for your contribution to the poker community.
yeah, xenoblade is really sick with his advice, thanks, man!

btw, played some today, got owned pretty hard by variance, overall played well with some ambitious plays ofc.

Some hands

H1: folded this in less than 3 seconds lol. The nittyness is just insane, sooooo ******ed. Good fold, right?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 116.14 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 129.65 BB
UTG: 48.5 BB
MP: 124.46 BB
CO: 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.3 BB, BTN calls 2.3 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, CO calls 10.7 BB, BTN calls 10.7 BB

Flop: (40 BB, 3 players) K 8 7
Hero bets 12.79 BB, CO calls 12.79 BB, BTN raises to 86 BB, fold, CO raises to 87 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 1 BB

Turn: (226.79 BB, 2 players) 5

River: (226.79 BB, 2 players) 2

Spoiler:
CO shows 8 8 (Three of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 61%, Flop 99%, Turn 100%)
BTN shows K A (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 39%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
CO wins 225.42 BB



H2: vs good reg, if the river would be diamonds, I would get owned pretty hard haha. Added this in my turn barreling range so I could overbet rivers where my nut flush gets there, was underbluffing like crazy in those runnouts

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100.5 BB
SB: 117.79 BB
BB: 100.55 BB
UTG: 466.27 BB
MP: 87.84 BB
Hero (CO): 103.02 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) Q 7 6
BB checks, Hero bets 1.62 BB, BB calls 1.62 BB

Turn: (8.37 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets 12 BB, BB calls 12 BB

River: (32.37 BB, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:
BB shows K 9 (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 39%, Flop 29%, Turn 32%)
Hero shows J A (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 61%, Flop 71%, Turn 68%)
Hero wins 31 BB



H3: vs same reg, wp by both, right? My hand is a high frequency valuebet OTT even with AK in villain's range, right? Vs nits ofc we should check OTT

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 121.3 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 127.74 BB
CO: 59.74 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

UTG raises to 2.25 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, UTG calls 6.75 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) K 5 8
Hero bets 5.98 BB, UTG calls 5.98 BB

Turn: (30.95 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 22.18 BB, UTG calls 22.18 BB

River: (75.31 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 62.85 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 62.85 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)

UTG shows 8 7 (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)

Hero wins 199.63 BB



H4: Should we check or valuebet the river? Meh, was so afraid of AJ/AQ, vs some nits is it possible to x/f the river ever?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 111.08 BB
SB: 166.86 BB
Hero (BB): 101 BB
UTG: 102.27 BB
MP: 51.55 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, BTN calls 8 BB

Flop: (22.5 BB, 2 players) Q A 3
Hero bets 7.08 BB, BTN calls 7.08 BB

Turn: (36.65 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 23.28 BB, BTN calls 23.28 BB

River: (83.21 BB, 2 players) A
Hero bets 59.65 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 59.65 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows Q Q (Full House, Queens full of Aces)
(Pre 81%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
BTN shows 3 3 (Full House, Threes full of Aces)
(Pre 19%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
Hero wins 201.13 BB



H5: besides pre, which was super loose, is this well played OTR? OTT I know that we should check a lot of our range and keep betting super polarized, should this hand be in our checking range or betting range? On river blanks, we're jamming, right?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 226.69 BB
MP: 107.17 BB
CO: 249.67 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 3

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.25 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, BTN calls 6.75 BB

Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) 6 J 5
Hero bets 5.82 BB, BTN calls 5.82 BB

Turn: (30.14 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 21.58 BB, BTN calls 21.58 BB

River: (73.29 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BTN bets 63.61 BB and is all-in, fold

BTN wins 71.92 BB

H6: vs reg, we can't fold this on this runnout, right? Villain's value range is only quads and random 4x combo draws. Most people won't have 88 or JJ

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 1048.46 BB
UTG: 106.6 BB
MP: 231.77 BB
CO: 50 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 4 J 8
Hero bets 5.13 BB, BB raises to 16 BB, Hero calls 10.87 BB

Turn: (38 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BB bets 19 BB, Hero calls 19 BB

River: (76 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BB bets 63 BB, Hero calls 62.5 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
BB shows 7 4 (Three of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 16%, Flop 26%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Fours)
(Pre 84%, Flop 74%, Turn 5%)
BB wins 199.63 BB
06-23-2018 , 08:00 PM
H2. I think AJ has so much showdown value I think this is a better check on both flop and turn especially if you are cbetting KJo and are overbetting those with a club or T9 OTT especially if you have offsuit combos of that. Adding in any A8-A9off combos with Ac which are better bluffs OTF and most turns. The KJ and T9 wth a club are mandatory bluffs on club rivers as well as any lower Ac8-9x on many rivers and adding showdown worthy A highs into 3 street bluffs you will be overbluffing whenever you dont spike an A or get a brick you can showdown vs draws.

I like the idea tho just think there's more urgent bluffs starting OTF

H6. You just got bamboozled by this hand but he could have some more reasonable 4s with bd diamonds or 84s if hes calling this wide. I would call tho vs a fish and vs a reg.
06-23-2018 , 08:50 PM
Omg wrote such a detailed explanation but internet glitched. Short version.

H3. Given option to 50% 70% or 50% turn solver bets 60% of the time using 50% sizing. On this river 50% bet and folds to fairly small shove with all QQ that doubleblock backdoor fds. So all QsQx is a call in this case.

H4. Clear shove because villain will have some ''slowplayed'' AK and fairly high frequency ATo due to having to defend his wide range. Basically shove all boats and only include enough bluffs to make him indifferent to calling a straight. If hes a station and ends up at river and calling with trips then dont bluff anything.
The J turn however is almost a range check and checkraise with QQ so the results are kinda meh because there are sofew combos of bluffs and value left in this version of the gametree.

H5. Very weird spot because I would never find myself drawing to the ass end of a gutshot in a threebet pot with 23s LOL. You realize being able to unexploitably cbet 1/3 ish pot with range is based on the assumption of a strong linear 3bet range and it kinda falls apart from not being a mistake if you include these combos too often. But here goes...

I think this is one of those situations rio videos talk about where you use 1/3 to 1/2 pot sizing depending on how wide you wanna valuebet on the flush completing turn. If you bet all straights and half sets bet closer to 1/2 if you want to bet all sets bet closer to 1/3. River since he doesnt have much 7x you can probably merge this into a shove and just include enough flush blocker bluffs where hes indifferent to calling bad flushes top-middle set region.

Dont quote me on this im high LOL

Last edited by yadrooolahCOGD; 06-23-2018 at 09:13 PM.
06-24-2018 , 03:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenoblade
its not very complicated, he folds too much and he underbluffs just about every spot

some regs at mid and even high stakes still do that too but they squeeze a small winrate if they bumhunt enough
Since your the one always boasting , how about you honor us with your graph?


H1. bad fold.

H3. Awfully played by both imo. You should never be getting value from worse and you should not have enough bluffs for his call down to be profitable.

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On this river 50% bet and folds to fairly small shove with all QQ that doubleblock backdoor fds. So all QsQx is a call in this case.
err how is river a b/f with that spr??

H5. Pre isn't 'super loose', its super terrible.

H6. With no spades, 3bet the flop or xr. lol at how out of line the regs are against you. zero respect. Call down is fine though.

Last edited by mirage01; 06-24-2018 at 03:48 AM.
06-24-2018 , 04:08 AM
Hand 1 looks like a solid fold to me, years ago you'd never fold in those spots on stars but it seems trivial now

      
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