Or it is just variance

It could be too, but I'm not having insane results and running well this month (even though above EV)

No point spending hours on pio and discussing gto strategies if it's not actually translating into results. This is what you don't understand. Do you want to make money at this game, or is it just a bit of a hobby that you've accepted you won't make any real money from?

I've played less than 25k hands after pio, chill out a bit lol

And even if I were 100% sure I would breakeven for the rest of my life I would still play poker, I love playing this game.

But I obv want to make money playing, at least enough money on the side to pay for vacations/magic cards. Going pro is somewhat hard for me even if I were making a lot of money, in the ideal world I would pass in the government job, make $5k/month in there while $1- $2k/month at poker on the side.

Humble goals to vamooooooooooooo

There's no one "optimal" WWSF in ring games. It's directly tied into things like rake, antes and how fishy/nitty the pool is. In nitfest high rake games like 50Z your WWSF should be high though.

Rapidesh would probably breakeven @ Zynga poker because they would actually call his 10x pot overshove bluffs there ^^

Bodgik is very deep into zynga poker's metagame lol

+1. my wwsf ranges from 44-49 depending on stake and whether it's fr or 6max but my bb/100 is always 6+

yeah I'm referring to the zoom games on stars where everybody's pretty tight preflop, think it should be lower on ignition overall given it's a fish pond and lots of multiway pots

yeah I agree. my wwsf is 50 at stars 100z and could probably be a little higher if I fixed some leaks

Shouldn´t our WWSF be lower vs tigher preflop ranges since they will have a stronger range postflop when we see the flop?

You play on weed, man, if I would play on weed my wwsf would drop down to 39 looool!

In theory, yes, but it's hard to have a high wwsf vs a whale that is mashing buttons like crazy and potting all the time with garbage. You win the pot less often but when you win, you win big.

well they don't play tight to that extent, they play just tight enough that the vast majority of pots are HU postflop which then you should win roughly half of them

hahaha weed makes me fearless. takes the emotion out of it and I can just go for the triple barrels without any worries. hard to care about trivial things like winning and losing money when the haze is thick enough

Lol, don't know how you do it, always when I smoke I turn into a zombie with the intellect of a 5-year old haha

My plays on magic when I'm stoned are unveliavebly bad haha!

didn't he get GTO+ ?

Pio is only $250 you nub

Probably a wiser decision than getting your face tattooed.

and taking amphet+weed+cocaine+heroine+crack+adderal+this and this, + try stabbing everyone you cross

Roll is at $2.7k! Really enjoyed this friday night, tons of bad players in the pool and made few mistakes

Some hands

H1: vamo!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 109.08 BB
SB: 347.82 BB
Hero (BB): 111.08 BB
UTG: 226.68 BB
MP: 173.12 BB
CO: 104.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 3

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 4 A 9
Hero checks, CO bets 2.56 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, CO calls 7.44 BB

Turn: (25.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 18.16 BB, CO calls 18.16 BB

River: (61.82 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 80.42 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 58.72 BB


H2: what do you say to nits? Not today haha

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 43 BB
SB: 390.32 BB
Hero (BB): 113.56 BB
UTG: 117.66 BB
MP: 83.42 BB
CO: 113.24 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 T

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (2 BB, 2 players) 8 T T
SB checks, Hero bets 1 BB, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Turn: (8 BB, 2 players) Q
SB bets 7.6 BB, fold

SB wins 7.6 BB


H3: special one for finland haha! Can't touch this!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 160.32 BB
Hero (SB): 226.72 BB
BB: 235.4 BB
UTG: 170.8 BB
MP: 112.68 BB
CO: 97 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 10.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

BTN wins 7.5 BB


H4: vs advanced opponent

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 43.46 BB
Hero (SB): 116.46 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 249.32 BB
MP: 82.7 BB
CO: 52.24 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 100 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 97 BB

Flop: (200 BB, 2 players) 5 5 3

Turn: (200 BB, 2 players) 9

River: (200 BB, 2 players) T



H5: not today, bro!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 131.3 BB
SB: 101.68 BB
BB: 108.76 BB
UTG: 106.8 BB
MP: 104.72 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, BB calls 7 BB, fold

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 7 3 K
BB checks, Hero bets 4.7 BB, BB calls 4.7 BB

Turn: (28.4 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (28.4 BB, 2 players) T
BB bets 26.98 BB, Hero calls 26.98 BB



H6: vs unknown, very big mistake by me, I was really almost folding OTT vs the minraise, but I had so many good calls today that I got carried away and ended up making the bad play. I think OTR it doesn't matter, I just have to fold. I think folding turn is insane, but probably the best play, those min-raises are soooo nutted

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 98.18 BB
BB: 209.14 BB
UTG: 53.1 BB
Hero (MP): 110.26 BB
CO: 815.14 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 6 BB, fold, Hero calls 3.68 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 2 players) 5 A 2
SB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Turn: (23 BB, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets 16.38 BB, SB raises to 32.76 BB, Hero calls 16.38 BB

River: (88.52 BB, 2 players) 3
SB bets 54.42 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 54.42 BB



H7: vs whale, snap bet OTR, should I call this?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 104.22 BB
SB: 128.04 BB
BB: 156.02 BB
UTG: 84.36 BB
MP: 47.52 BB
CO: 230.42 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 9

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB calls 1.82 BB, fold

Flop: (5.64 BB, 2 players) T A 9
SB checks, Hero bets 1.4 BB, SB calls 1.4 BB

Turn: (8.44 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero bets 11.06 BB, SB calls 11.06 BB

River: (30.56 BB, 2 players) Q
SB bets 29.04 BB, fold

SB wins 29.04 BB


H8: Take that! So good stationing people down

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 122.44 BB
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 124.66 BB
UTG: 68.2 BB
MP: 214.84 BB
CO: 100.66 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 4

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 4 6 7
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: (6 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BB bets 2.86 BB, Hero calls 2.86 BB

River: (11.72 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BB bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB



H9: I like my bluff OTT, but OTR it doesn't make sense, I'll have some FHs/Jx and flushes, but my flushes/Jx won't valuebet for that sizing. Villain also has a lot of overpairs in there and busted draws, so not sure if overbet is good OTR, and if overbetting I think I should just jam

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 124.44 BB
SB: 313.62 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 78.24 BB
MP: 73.86 BB
CO: 269.84 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, SB calls 2 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (7.5 BB, 3 players) J 8 6
SB bets 3.56 BB, Hero calls 3.56 BB, BTN calls 3.56 BB

Turn: (18.18 BB, 3 players) 3
SB checks, Hero bets 12.96 BB, BTN calls 12.96 BB, fold

River: (44.1 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 57.82 BB, fold

Hero wins 41.9 BB


H10:

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 121.8 BB
SB: 106.86 BB
BB: 162.48 BB
UTG: 94.5 BB
MP: 121.68 BB
CO: 292.98 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 3 2 4
MP checks, Hero bets 9.64 BB, MP calls 9.64 BB

Turn: (38.78 BB, 2 players) 2
MP checks, Hero bets 27.64 BB, MP calls 27.64 BB

River: (94.06 BB, 2 players) T
MP checks, Hero bets 75.52 BB and is all-in, MP calls 75.4 BB and is all-in



H11: I knew that card would come and beat my jacks OTT haha! I like my play even after looking at their hands, it's very likely that both players will be all in OTT very often and my hand isn't good enough to stackoff vs both guys

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 69.96 BB
SB: 101.5 BB
BB: 208.06 BB
UTG: 146.96 BB
Hero (MP): 128.04 BB
CO: 169.26 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, CO calls 2.32 BB, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (9.78 BB, 4 players) 2 5 T
BB checks, Hero bets 2.42 BB, fold, BTN raises to 9 BB, BB calls 9 BB, fold

Turn: (30.2 BB, 2 players) 5
BB checks, BTN bets 22 BB, BB raises to 91.78 BB, BTN calls 36.64 BB and is all-in

River: (147.48 BB, 2 players) 4



H12: vs nit, they bluff too! Insane to find out that haha, everything makes sense now!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 95 BB
SB: 132.46 BB
Hero (BB): 120.6 BB
UTG: 249.14 BB
MP: 593.08 BB
CO: 136.62 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 2

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2.8 BB, Hero calls 1.8 BB

Flop: (5.6 BB, 2 players) 5 7 4
SB checks, Hero bets 2.76 BB, SB calls 2.76 BB

Turn: (11.12 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (11.12 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 6.96 BB, Hero calls 6.96 BB



H13: vs reg that always thinks I'm bluffing, I know my hand should x back turn a lot, but when he x/r and x turn it's very likely he got some sort of SDV that I beat, so went for the jam to just get value. His raise OTF is scary though, not sure how I'm defending vs that.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 106.5 BB
SB: 116.9 BB
BB: 68.74 BB
UTG: 71 BB
MP: 158.6 BB
CO: 135.98 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, CO raises to 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, BB calls 11 BB, CO calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (36.5 BB, 3 players) 6 4 Q
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 9.02 BB, fold, CO raises to 22 BB, Hero calls 12.98 BB

Turn: (80.5 BB, 2 players) T
CO checks, Hero bets 72.5 BB and is all-in, CO calls 72.5 BB

River: (225.5 BB, 2 players) 7


H14: one finland/tom dwan play OTR, Vs nit, he snap called lol, got owned.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 225.86 BB
SB: 408.5 BB
Hero (BB): 114.9 BB
UTG: 93.52 BB
MP: 141.04 BB
CO: 76.08 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 7

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.54 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.54 BB

Flop: (5.58 BB, 2 players) Q 3 J
Hero checks, BTN bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (11.58 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN bets 6.38 BB, Hero calls 6.38 BB

River: (24.34 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BTN bets 7.86 BB, Hero raises to 37 BB, BTN calls 29.14 BB

just call river with J7ss man, also fold with T3o is wtf, you got 10 outs to improve to quads/boat, just peel turn and see what happens on river?

my eyes hurt too bad to continue after the first 3 hands