yeah, was a big mistake by me, population underbluffs in that spot so I thought I could get away with that, will do my best to not do it again.
Btw, I don't know if you guys know, but Brazil is having elections for president atm, the second round is between 2 people, I'm quite curious to see what people from other parts of the world would think is the least worst option(yeah lol, both candidates are a joke).
Which one you think is the worst?
First: One guy that will be a puppet from the ex-president(that is in jail), he will probably destroy the economy even more and he has 32 processes on him about corruption/stealing government money(haha)
Second: This guy
haha, that's a tough election spot for sure lol! It's quite funny to see people at UK complaining about brexit when we are facing this kind of atrocity looool!
H6 fold is beyond awful especially vs a 'top reg' who will just exploit your ass off. Easiest call in the word vs anyone. What did you put him on? let me guess you got scared of trips? lul. The rest of the hands are meh. Seen worse.
lol, I thought 2014 was the bottom of the pathetic having to choose between those 2 pos for president, but it can always get worse. Travelled a lot to other countries in South America last year, including poorer ones like Peru, Ecuador, Colombia and Bolivia, and they (and their ppl) didn´t seem as hopeless and depressed as Brazil is, even having their own big problems and issues to solve.
H1. I feel like your utg range is strong enough to rangebet or go for a less polarized sizing. BB has AQo in range alot as well. CO/Button vs bb I could see this overbetting as a good strat because villain is capped to A3-33 +you have so much more air in your range u need to protect vs probes by checking more top pair hands and use larger sizing to support your bluffs.
lol, I thought 2014 was the bottom of the pathetic having to choose between those 2 pos for president, but it can always get worse. Travelled a lot to other countries in South America last year, including poorer ones like Peru, Ecuador, Colombia and Bolivia, and they (and their ppl) didn´t seem as hopeless and depressed as Brazil is, even having their own big problems and issues to solve.
Yeah, last election I voted in the druglord that ordered people to kill his brother, Dilma was the worst ever, no wonder why the impeachment happened lol
H1. I feel like your utg range is strong enough to rangebet or go for a less polarized sizing. BB has AQo in range alot as well. CO/Button vs bb I could see this overbetting as a good strat because villain is capped to A3-33 +you have so much more air in your range u need to protect vs probes by checking more top pair hands and use larger sizing to support your bluffs.
AQ is behind or chopping with most of my value range, even vs CO bb should flat a lot of AQ, range betting utg vs bb is good for a 50% sizing imo, but in some textures I've been experimenting with an overbet strat and 33% with the rest of my range, I feel like people are getting used to the range cbet for a small sizing, so it's good to try to play with 2 sizings otf in some textures. People still play horrible vs it, but I think in 2 years most regs will be raising at a high frequency(with bluffs and value/equity denial) and defend more(if they're not already doing at 500z, from what I've seen, only few ones at 100z-200z x/r enough vs a 33% range cbet.
I think it's only viable to do that if we won't need to have a x range too, so I do it only on high ev boards for us, since it's impossible for a human to balance 2 sizings + a x back range. Imo it's harder to play with a x range and a b range than with a small sizing and an overbetting one, it's way easier to figure out what hands want to overbet than those that want to x back.
Last edited by Rapidesh123; 10-13-2018 at 02:02 AM.
Played really well today, but it's easy to play well with the low volume I'm putting, I think I've played less than 10k hands so far this month, meh. Will do my best to put some volume in the next days! Bankroll is probably around 3.2-3.3k, still playing 100z.
Worst hand of the day:
H1: intense button clicking vs best reg of 100z and probably one of the best of 200z imo. I was having a tough decision on the other table and went for the faceroll turn donk overbet because he was overbetting a lot and my hand was weak vs that, so I decided that it was a good idea to skip that part of the game tree by donking turn. My thinking during this hand was terrible, if he is barreling turns very aggressively, then I should overfold OTF and defend more OTT. Donking there is probably -EV, specially vs a better player. At least river saved me, if I were overbetting turn as a bluff, then that's the river I would easily underbluff, so river bet is good imo.
H2: vs unknown, bad fold, right? My thought process behind folding was that his sizing OTF was really heavy on AA/KK as a mergy bet and some spazzing, OTT his small sizing indicates he usually have a draw/pair for thin value/sets. OTR I'm not sure if he would bluff with a set(or if he had a random spazz). How would you guys play this one?
H3: vs whale, he was opening 30% and had 0/7 fold to 3-bet, so I thought that a decent SC IP in a 3-bet pot would do very well vs him. Do you guys fold the river? Worst card in the deck, but since this guy still has all Axo that he opens and I think he wouldn't valuebet TP enough, I've decided to call.
River:(19.42 BB, 2 players) A
UTG checks, Hero bets 13.84 BB, UTG raises to 27.68 BB, fold
UTG wins 44.74 BB
H5: vs whale, stationy rapidesh! vaaaaaamo! I'm finally learning how to play vs these guys, was leaving so much money on the tables by not checking to induce and calling light.
River:(77.1 BB, 2 players) 6
CO bets 144.79 BB and is all-in, fold
CO wins 74.6 BB
H7: vs unknown, I think I overplayed it, the only FH that I beat is 54 and I block it, should I just call? Or should I min-raise to induce jams from whales(like the one that happened some pages ago)? Vs whales I like just jamming because they won't fold TP and overpairs ever, but is an unknown at 100z bad enough to make the EV of jamming higher than just calling? I say that because villain has a ton of bluffs in his range and I'm not sure if most people valuebet overpairs/TP for that sizing OTT/OTR with no FD going on.
Why? I know that it's better to go wider for value and not play much with SCs vs whales, but villain was playing fit-and-fold a lot, had like 200 hands on that whale and he was folding 56% to cbets. Vs passive and predictable whales I think I can make 97s +EV vs a 30% range, my problem is dealing with aggro whales that spazz out like crazy
just c-bet flop next time against a whale instead of playing the guessing game river, the thing about playing against fit or fold fishes is that you define their range very well by just c-betting, even if you have bottom or middle or weak top pair you're going to print money c-betting flop as long as you play turn and river correctly
Good to see Xenoblade has finally crawled out from under his rock. Lets see if Rapid has finally improved.
H1. Turn over bet, river 70% bet. lul
H2. Re raise flop vs that stupid sizing or at least raise turn vs his scared dog **** sizing, so naturally you flat all the way and proceed to get owned on the river.
H3. Whats funny is I bet most of the whales in the pool actually have you tagged as a whale. Deservedly owned.
H4. Fold pre. Why the fk are you checking turn? Why the fk are you folding river? Why the fk are iso'ing A9 if your folding river?
H5. Looks like an overplay. Should raise river though.
he was CO, and these days villains are limping better hands than the trashy ones you iso with. So in other words you will hit your hand and still get owned, exactly like what happened. Its just A9, fold and move on.
he was CO, and these days villains are limping better hands than the trashy ones you iso with. So in other words you will hit your hand and still get owned, exactly like what happened. Its just A9, fold and move on.
H1. This is some bodgiksolver ****. Atleast u admit it.
H2, Flop is good. turn raise should be obvious try to set up stacks . river fold
H3. Why not cbet small check turn unimproved and call a river bet on a relative blank runout or valuebet river when improved. U are just letting him realize for free and/or valuetown you in hopes that he's gonna spazz every combo of air like A5o he has that doesn't spike. Assuming too much to make this kind of exploit. TBH I dont even know if by the riv he can even have enough air for this to be +ev unless hes only valuebetting trips+ and barrelling all his air at 100% freq.
Think logically like this. Whale has a ****ton of air on flop. Betting small for protection/ cheap realization is gonna be + ev vs his range. etc etc. turn/River completes straights and flushes and gives him some some top 2 pairs/boats . His bluffing combos decrease is a fact. His range contains a good amount of fairly nutted hands. Him not valuebetting a J is an assumption.U have a million better hands to call >>>>FOLD
H4.. Its a borderline low freq 3bet vs good player and 18% utg raise so obv a good +EV iso.
U bet 25% flop on the vs a limper check turn and the fish checks to you and u betfold the top of your range to a minraise? u need to be good 18% of the time bro! you are prolly good 20-100% of the time depending on the fish. Again assuming he is never bluffing he is always limping 22,33,88 AT-AK never raising flop or valuebetting them on the river he needs to take this line with A4-7 at a 26% freq for u to breakeven. >>>> CALL
H5. Checking to induce and calling light can be great. I'm just hoping u realize this river call is fine given ur read but had the river been a diamond J or K your assumption/info about this player needs to be pretty extreme to make a winning call. Its hard for even spewtards to overbluff on runouts where they're fds and highcard floats improve to flushes and showdown worthy pairs.
H6. A nit will never overbluff vs a strong uncapped range. Nor valuebet worse often enough. Good fold.
H7. This shove could be printing with your image. Save it vs someone who knows u are capable of overbluffing or spazzing or a station. Vs unknown raise to 85-95 and try to get more sigh calls. They basically need to call J9 QQ+ 16+ % of the time for you to profit. Id explo fold to a shove tho. Minraising might get sigh called more but prob level u to make a -ev call vs a jam being over assumptive of villains spazz factor.
And then pay him off with 3rd pair on a straight and flush board.
lol
It's very easy to say it's bad when we get into a spot where villain has a valuebet vs our x to induce, but you forget the times both miss, I cbet and take it down, the times I hit 2p+ and get value, those times flop goes x/x, turn villain checks, I make a thin valuebet and x back river and win vs a bad call from villain.
And the fact that I have 3rd pair is irrelevant if villain isn't valuebetting TP, actually 3rd pair does better vs a 2p+ value range than TP given I block more sets/2p combos.
just c-bet flop next time against a whale instead of playing the guessing game river, the thing about playing against fit or fold fishes is that you define their range very well by just c-betting, even if you have bottom or middle or weak top pair you're going to print money c-betting flop as long as you play turn and river correctly
I see the merits of betting for equity denial otf vs such a wide range, but don't you think a whale will make bigger mistakes vs a check than a bet? I used to cbet a lot, but I'm testing with those passive lines, not sure which is best.
yes they may make mistakes against your check back range but it's pointless if you make a mistake yourself by calling one of the worse river in the deck
also lol mirage @ folding pre with A9s BTN vs UTG limp, A9s is not even a fold if UTG open raises, much less if he limps hahaha
yes they may make mistakes against your check back range but it's pointless if you make a mistake yourself by calling one of the worse river in the deck
also lol mirage @ folding pre with A9s BTN vs UTG limp, A9s is not even a fold if UTG open raises, much less if he limps hahaha
So do you think folding river is best? I overfold otr for sure vs most people, but Idk if it's good or bad vs whales, I have close to 0 experience in calling people down, since I was either barreling aggressively or giving up. Vs whales I'm testing with calling as much as possible
of course folding river is best, he has little to no bluffs by the river and you are pretty much at the bottom of your range by then, no relevent blockers to make the call either except maybe blocking some 2 pairs combos but that's not enough
spots to call down vs whales are usually pretty clear, if draw bust they will always bluff it and they may even bluff hands they have no business bluffing along with it, when everything gets there you just lay it down man