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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
Just because you play your entire range on turn as a check doesn't mean splitting your range on turn is a bad play, it's actually probably better to donk this turn with a balanced range than to just check entire range albeit harder to execute.
Actually I'm not splitting my range OTT, I'm leading with my entire range. I obviously haven't done the work necessary on this spot, but I got that play from some RIO videos I watched, specially from sauce.
It's impossible to split your range there properly for a human, so leading 100% of the range for a 33% bet sizing is something that simplify it a lot. OTR I'll split my range into a shoving range and a checking range.
I'm 100% sure I'm valuebetting Tx OTR, whenever I donk the turn, I'm the one with the equity advantage and putting pressure on villains range, so it makes no sense for my value hands to just check and trap, he is the one trying to see showdown, not me.
Just imagine if you're in villain's shoes, if you have AK there OTT and the T doubles, what will you accomplish by betting big? You will be mostly valueowning yourself vs a range that contains 20% of hands that has you almost dead.
If I had checked, villain had to check behind most of his range there.
The benefits of range donking the turn are clear for all parts of my range.
Basically my range OTT after I called the flop is made by these kinds of holdings:
1) Weak SDV hands that want to see showdown(weak Ax, small pocket pairs KQ)
2) Strong value hands(trips, FHs, quads, AQ)
3) Semibluffs that want to put pressure on the SDV part of villain's range(JJ/QQ/KK, weak Ax, small PPs) with equity against the top of his range(AK/AQ/Tx).
Now look at what my donk OTT accomplishes for each part of this range:
1) weak SDV hands: we stop villain from betting bigger with the value part of his range, realize our 2-outter equity and sometimes fold some weak SDV hands that beat us, we get closer to showdown for a cheap price.
2)Strong value hands: we get value from hands that wouldn't bet themselves like weak Ax and will set the pot size so it won't be super awkward to jam the river to get it in vs the top of villain's range that we beat(AK/AQ).
3) Semibluffs: we put pressure on villains hands that would like to check behind OTT, getting some fold equity and buying a cheap river for a reasonable price vs AK/AQ.
In the end, the only reason that makes me able to donk the turn is because T doubling is such a great card for my range, and in poker, the player with the equity advantage should be the one betting to get value from the weaker range.
Last edited by Rapidesh123; 01-13-2018 at 10:57 PM.