It's not a downswing only
most of it went down the road like that because of my massive tilts.
I started looking for a lot of tilted hands in NL25 and things are ugly, still think there are way more mini-tilts which I spew 10-20bbs here and there.
Found out $500 of tilted hands that I lost a stack.
It looks like opponent could be turning a marginally made hand into a bluff. If they put you on a weak A high, there's a lot more bluffs they could be representing that combos of hands that beat you in my opinion. I might be spewy, but I'm calling that off with most opponents.
With that turn check and pf action, I don't see him repping many 7's. Basically 77 sometimes, but why would you check-back 7's with 2 FD's out there and a position.
I think I would check/call the river almost always.
Almost went busto today, was playing well on NL16, then started losing a lot of all-ins, ended 6 BI below EV, my bankroll was already super small for that stake, so I got tilted, move back to NL10 and used that super aggro strat(reached 42% re-steal).
Lost a lot, by bankroll fell to $60 lol. The good thing is that I took a break, thought a little, played straightforward poker while villains were super tilted. Then people started tilting their stacks to me LOL. They probably played like that because of the super high 3bet% and maniac stats lol
I think I'm pretty good at tilting other people, but the problem is that the overadapt and start making huge call downs, which tilts me like crazy. Also some regs adapt by overbluffing (because I always have bluffs, right?), that's one of the reasons I lost a lot in NL25, I was bluffing and folding a lot, basically dumping money to those regs.
Well, I think also that my huge 30bb/100 over 30k hands(at the beginning of the thread) went like that because of that effect, I was merging a lot and tilting those regs even more, also that kind of stuff is even more effective when I'm running good.
Then after getting some tilted stacks, managed to get back to $180 lol.
I think if I'm able to control tilt and able to feel when villains are overadapting, I could abuse that and throw some super thin valuebets and inducing. Now that I'm trained in hero calling, I think I could do that.
Also today I went into a lot more post-flop spots, specially in situations I wasn't used to, like flatting min-raises in the BB with 98o, J7s.
Here are some hands that I destroyed some tilted villains
H1: was betting to induce/valuebet A/K high, some villains called 2 streets with A high there vs me. After he raised the turn, I was hero calling any river, guy was tilted, I think it's fine.
Hero shows 8 A (Full House, Aces full of Sevens)
(Pre 60%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%) BTN mucks K Q (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)
(Pre 40%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%) Hero wins 47.1 BB
Even though I have even less bankroll than I had yesterday, I was hopeless, thinking I couldn't beat the game. This crazy session on NL10 gave me a lot of hope, will focus in controlling tilt and will keep studying and playing.
Turn:(32.88 BB, 2 players) Q Hero checks, CO checks
River:(32.88 BB, 2 players) T Hero bets 23.19 BB, CO raises to 83.81 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 60.63 BB
Spoiler:
CO shows 4 6 (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 21%, Flop 33%, Turn 18%) Hero shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
(Pre 79%, Flop 67%, Turn 82%) Hero wins 191.5 BB
H3: vs a random donkey aggrotard, used to fold a lot OTF, it's better to fold OTF than calling and folding OTT or OTR, since these guys always shoot 3 bullets.
Then people started tilting their stacks to me LOL. They probably played like that because of the super high 3bet% and maniac stats lol
I think I'm pretty good at tilting other people, but the problem is that the overadapt and start making huge call downs, which tilts me like crazy. Also some regs adapt by overbluffing (because I always have bluffs, right?), that's one of the reasons I lost a lot in NL25, I was bluffing and folding a lot, basically dumping money to those regs.
Well, I think also that my huge 30bb/100 over 30k hands(at the beginning of the thread) went like that because of that effect, I was merging a lot and tilting those regs even more, also that kind of stuff is even more effective when I'm running good.
Dude I really think you need to re-think this side of poker if you're going to be successful. The regs are bad and will do bad-reg things. They might do slightly more bad-reg things against regs they perceive as loose/spewy, but zoom isn't a format where you can capitalize on tilting regs.
Most of what you think is regs adjusting is just you over bluffing against stations or even just card distribution. 30k hands is nothing, espec at zoom where winrates are so small compared to rake.
Send me a PM if you want, would be interested in talking some zoom strat with you (we've played together a bit).
Dude I really think you need to re-think this side of poker if you're going to be successful. The regs are bad and will do bad-reg things. They might do slightly more bad-reg things against regs they perceive as loose/spewy, but zoom isn't a format where you can capitalize on tilting regs.
Most of what you think is regs adjusting is just you over bluffing against stations or even just card distribution. 30k hands is nothing, espec at zoom where winrates are so small compared to rake.
Send me a PM if you want, would be interested in talking some zoom strat with you (we've played together a bit).
Zoom is a format where you capitalize on regs tilting and better players will lose less when downswings occur/control their emotions better than these ''tilting regs'' who will forever have mediocre results due to tilt.
Zoom is a format where you capitalize on regs tilting and better players will lose less when downswings occur/control their emotions better than these ''tilting regs'' who will forever have mediocre results due to tilt.
Agreed. I didn't phrase that clearly. You capitalize on regs who are tilted, but it's a lot harder to be the cause of reg-tilt and then take advantage of it, than it is at reg tables.
Regs don't see the majority of what you do, so spewing for 500 hands won't cause them to adjust that much to you. You can overbluff for a while, and it feels like regs are calling down lighter, but it's almost certainly variance.
I'm not saying regs are completely clueless and won't adjust at all, but I've been in the pool with rapi a bunch over the last month and I only find out at the end of the session from reading this thread what mode he was in. I know he's a reasonable thinking reg so I play against him as I would any reg (ie as GTO as I'm able, which I'm obv bad at since it's micros).
Nah 16z is very easy. There was this guy on reddit who won 100bi in 100k hands at 25z. I would say 90% of the hands you play at 25z are players that are not thinking much at all. And 10% against regulars that are not much better (mostly euro nits). This is my results at 25z although it is a small sample, I can tell you the players are very bad.
Regs don't see the majority of what you do, so spewing for 500 hands won't cause them to adjust that much to you.
Did you see my overall graph and the hands posted at the beginning of the thread? I had 200k hands of this super aggro-playstyle(+50k of going on monkeytilt mode in NL25)
And 50k of playing as a huge nit.
In some HH I posted here, people were calling my 3-bets with AQ, then the cbet, T cbet and river overshove for 150% of the pot with ace high lol.
there was a time when I was valuebetting so thinly that I started jamming TPWK OTR and getting called by worse a lot.
Every time I'm in the BTN and there's one reg(who isn't a nit) in the CO, and he takes some time thinking a lot about opening there or stealing my blind. I saw you pause for a little today, meowth, u acted fast, but some guys even time out lol.
Even reloadonsashagray made some moves against me lol.
Nah 16z is very easy. There was this guy on reddit who won 100bi in 100k hands at 25z. I would say 90% of the hands you play at 25z are players that are not thinking much at all. And 10% against regulars that are not much better (mostly euro nits). This is my results at 25z although it is a small sample, I can tell you the players are very bad.
so what stakes do you think has players that do think and regs that are good? Any of the (regularly running) zoom pools?
had another great session, tilted only 1 BI today.
tomorrow will play more, but I'll start studying for a subject the day after, so will play less volume.
Won't be able to maintain supernova status =(
Some hands I played today.
H1: can't stop myself from not cold 4-betting this guy lol, but he is aware of that.
Thought about calling the flop and bluffcatching if he had a draw, but the A OTT added a lot of TP to villain's range, so I should have folded there. OTR the flush completed, since I had the K blocker, I decided to jam to fold out his sets that could be bet-folding there, also I could have a flush too.
The problem is that villain has way more flushes than sets in that spot =(
The other problem is that people don't fold sets, specially vs me. Some guys don't fold even high cards lol.
so what stakes do you think has players that do think and regs that are good? Any of the (regularly running) zoom pools?
I do not know. I have only played up to 25z and the collective skill of the pools from 2z-25z is marginal. It appears there are fish at every stake, but the fish to regular ratio gets worse as you move up. I have seen some 500z streams where you have tables where you frequently have 3 regulars on your table which is quite a drastic difference to the micros and you can imagine how that would have a huge effect on your win rate.
Nah 16z is very easy. There was this guy on reddit who won 100bi in 100k hands at 25z. I would say 90% of the hands you play at 25z are players that are not thinking much at all. And 10% against regulars that are not much better (mostly euro nits). This is my results at 25z although it is a small sample, I can tell you the players are very bad.
NL25 is really hard, even NL10 is hard. When I started playing NL25, I was on a sick heater, so it was easy to think that people were bad.
People there can't be easily exploited, they adapt really fast, know how to bluffcatch, how to bluff well and valuebet pretty well.
OFC, probably 25% of the pool is those 30/10 limping regs who just wait for the nuts, but these guys aren't donating much money, also they take the seat of the bigger fish and stay there waiting for good hands, and when they hit, if you're tilted(or nor careful) you will get stacked.
You saw what those regs are capable of doing, imagine you cbetting that board and geting raised OTF and jammed OTT. Guy had ace high and pulled a move like that, in a pool where almost all raises in 3-bet pots mean sets/slowplayed overpairs.