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Old 01-09-2015, 10:08 PM   #1
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PokerSnowie student on the road for NL1000 ipoker

Hello everyone,
I recently start grinding on ipoker NL100-200 regular speed tables. I open this blog in order to share my experience with you.

Poker Goal for 2015
Grind the mid stakes of ipoker and reach the NL1000 by the end of 2015.

Poker background
I was a winning micro stakes player until June 2014 playing mostly NL50. Then i start working with PokerSnowie for several hours per day. I played huge volume on the challenge mode, import and study a ton of hands and invest really LOT of time.

As a result I can play with an overall error rate around 2-3 !!
Is that enough to beat the mid stakes???...honestly i have no idea and I d appreciate to hear your opinions on that.

About PokerSnowie in real world
Snowie claims that plays a good approach to the optimal game. All the plays are well balanced and it's tough for the opponent to find a tendency and use it against Snowie.

After all that training with Snowie I play almost in auto pilot. I cannot play exploitable strategy in order to beat the mid stakes regs, the edges are smaller for my ability level. Many of my moves are made by experience due to Snowie training. I m pretty tempted even not to use a hud.

But there is an important factor here. Snowie assumptions need very good opponnents in order to be correct. For example, after a few hours grinding speed NL20 I figure out that many of Snowie's assumptions are wrong because the villains was very bad players (nits,loose fish etc)

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After some analysis i find out that the reason I get crushed on NL20 is that many times Snowie suggests moves which are bad against poor players. Moves like river call vs 3 barrell of a nit player or bluff vs a fish. This doesn't mean that the suggestions are wrong vs a good and more balanced player.

Current results NL100-200
Hands 6k
Starting bankroll 2900$
Current bankroll 2377$
Error rate 2,4






Not very good till now but i hope it turn around. My total bankroll is enough for NL200 and I ll make reloads if needed. My first goal is to move up on NL400 when i got 6k on profits. I wont make any withdrawls during that period.

I ll try to update every 2-3 days...till then gl on the tables !!
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Old 01-09-2015, 10:26 PM   #2
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This is interesting! Good luck!
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Old 01-09-2015, 11:17 PM   #3
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GL!
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Old 01-10-2015, 01:15 PM   #4
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Hi Poker Engeneer,

Very interesting topic. I will be following your threat and I really with you to achive your goals. I like PokerSnowie and speed poker too. Even though I've only started working with Snowie I feel this is my favorite way of improving poker.

There is one interesting thing. You wrote you need a strong opponents for Snowies assumption to be correct. Do you mean playing according to Snowie strategy on micro stages would not be profitable? That stands in opposition to Snowie official threat about the Challenge: http://www.pokersnowie.com/blog/2014...s-hands-played

The results are cleat that Snowie makes higher profit against of worse players and lower stakes. Following your experience, how the Challenge results match the real world?

Do you think it would be possible to be profitable on Ipoker micros following exactly the Snowie? Lets say we have got flat 50 % rakeback.

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Old 01-10-2015, 03:33 PM   #5
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Hello everyone,
Small winning session today, I prefered to study some details on my database.
I managed to keep error rate really low, but the sample is insignificant obv.

Session results
Hands 507
Profit +127$
Bankroll 2500$



Tomorrow I m going to put high volume, i ll update after the session...gl to all

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You wrote you need a strong opponents for Snowies assumption to be correct. Do you mean playing according to Snowie strategy on micro stages would not be profitable?
I am aware of PokerSnowie thread. Well honestly I don't know the exact answer. What I know for sure that balanced strategy isn't the optimal strategy for microstakes.

For example you will never bluff vs a loose fish or you will bluff a lot vs a nit. These are exploitable strategies and they are more +EV than the balance strategy in microstakes.You can be more profitable by exploit tendecies, adjusting each time to the villain...which actually means that you re unbalanced as well cause you re following exploitable strategies. This is absolutely reasonable.

From my personal experience in NL20 I find out that many of Snowie's assumptions was wrong in some situations. Simple example is when you face a river bet from a nit. Snowie believe that every river bet include 40-60% bluffs!!! This cannot be true vs nits.

As you see the results was very bad. I runned awful though, several buy ins under the EV line. Also the rake on speed NL20 is very high (5% uncapped). These two factors might excuse somehow why i get crushed, but honestly I don't know if Snowie balanced strategy can beat so easy the microstakes.
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Old 01-10-2015, 04:05 PM   #6
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I totally agree with you that exploitve strategy is better on micro stakes. Even PokerSnowie staff claims that on their site, adding that we need solid balanced strategy first to be able to correctly deviate from. Actually my goal is to learn balanced strategy first(or GTO knowing it's not exactly GTO) and then start exploiting opponents with a help HUD or NoteCaddy.

The only problem is that I understood the begging of your post wrongly. I thought you wrote speed poker. Then I have had a closer look and I noticed you actually wrote regular speed. That actually change quite a bit, as exploiting on micros is both more necessary and easier.

I don't know if you are going to agree with me but I think Snowie is much more profitable for Speed Poker(or zoom, rush). This is just my assumption because I dont have enough data to back up that.

Have you ever tried using Snowie strategy on speed poker? Is it 6 max you play?
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Old 01-10-2015, 04:08 PM   #7
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Interesting, gl!
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Old 01-11-2015, 07:35 AM   #8
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I totally agree with you that exploitve strategy is better on micro stakes. Even PokerSnowie staff claims that on their site, adding that we need solid balanced strategy first to be able to correctly deviate from. Actually my goal is to learn balanced strategy first(or GTO knowing it's not exactly GTO) and then start exploiting opponents with a help HUD or NoteCaddy.

The only problem is that I understood the begging of your post wrongly. I thought you wrote speed poker. Then I have had a closer look and I noticed you actually wrote regular speed. That actually change quite a bit, as exploiting on micros is both more necessary and easier.

I don't know if you are going to agree with me but I think Snowie is much more profitable for Speed Poker(or zoom, rush). This is just my assumption because I dont have enough data to back up that.

Have you ever tried using Snowie strategy on speed poker? Is it 6 max you play?
I play only 6max. The results from NL20 was on speed tables. Now i play NL200 on regular speed because there is no speed tables for NL200 on ipoker.

Also I dont believe that Snowie is better on speed tables. It supposed that Snowie doesn't adjust to opponnent or situation and plays an unexploitable strategy every time.
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Old 01-11-2015, 08:59 AM   #9
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I think he means that everyone tend to play more gto oriented on speed tables, not totally different from playing anonymous tables, they also tend to be more gto-nitty rather than mind****plays.

which in turn means that pokernrsnowie play works much better on zoom rather than regular tables where alot of metagame revolves the tablefish, particularly when it comes to regs trying to isolate the tablefish, by opening wider which in turn means that some regs will squeeze a bit more, esp if the fish folds alot to cold3bets(who doesn´t?? but that play kinda loses alot of value if he DOES NOT, as the ordinary reg will get a great price for either calling or 4betbluffing) etcetcetc
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Old 01-11-2015, 09:03 AM   #10
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that said, this do exist on zoom tables aswell but not to the same extent
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Old 01-11-2015, 06:18 PM   #11
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You are quite right TouchofEvil. I think lack of data on our opponents (or significantly less) force people to play default game. Also, on a lowest stakes the recreational players play for fun. Many of them play just on one table, which means that if they fold they might have to wait few minutes or longer for another playable hand. So the impatience makes them more loose. This is not a case in speed or zoom poker, as they know it might be matter of seconds to get a playable hand. Speed poker makes it easier for recreational player to be nitty or taggy.
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Old 01-11-2015, 06:21 PM   #12
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I didn't mean to interrupt your threat, Poker Engineer. All the best to you and good luck.
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Old 01-11-2015, 08:52 PM   #13
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The Rider you don't interrupt, the purpose of the thread is to hear different opinions and thoughts. I am not any kind of expert on Snowie or poker. As I mention before, I was a NL50 grinder before start training with Snowie. I met some players trained with it and finally beat the NL500 zoom on Stars. This was the reason I trained so hard with it. But I honestly can't predict if I can beat midstakes only with the Snowie's coaching. This is a big jump for me and I hope it goes well.

I get yout point for zoom tables now. The main reason I don't play speed is because there is no speed NL200 on ipoker. Most of the things you both guys mention are right . But there are some things to add here.

1) Database can be pretty large even in speed tables. Everybody play with HUD nowdays so i think it's pretty easy to have big sample vs regs.
2) From my experience, ipoker speed tables include many shortstack players. More than the regular speed. In my opinion Snowie doesn't play very well vs shortstacks.
3) On regular tables there are many kind of players. Nits, TAGs, LAGs etc. But most of them considerd as regulars and they are thinking players, capable to bluff sometimes, fold top pairs etc...and in general they have a good poker level. This factor I name it as ''good poker enviroment''. Snowie's assumptions are closer to the reality when it plays in a ''good poker enviroment''. On the other hand this is not true on the microstakes (I can give you some hand examples if you re interested).

Unfortunately I didn't made my session today cause of some internet's connection problem. Hope tomorrow start again, and update after the session...gl all to all guys
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Old 01-12-2015, 02:30 PM   #14
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First off very interesting and thank you for sharing with us.
Can you share the reason you dont play on Stars? You would get the most volume on Stars, lets say grinding Zoom 100 -> 200 -> 500 , i understand why you would choose ipoker reg tables over Stars, but have you seriously considered Zooming since you play more and more on "auto-pilot"?

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Old 01-12-2015, 02:41 PM   #15
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Yes, I will be happy to see some examples. Also, it would be interesting if you were posting some interesting hands on your current stakes. For example if you disagree with Snowie or you are not sure why Snowie made that decision. It would be interesting to have a place we could discuss Snowie's moves between ourselves.

How do you deal with a rakeback? Do you have flat through affiliates or you are going to climb in VIP levels?
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and wow rake is so low @ ipoker. 5bb/100? geez
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Update guys
Monday session didn't went well again. I ve done some very VERY STUPID mistakes for my level (just clicking buttons actually for some reason!!). Error rate went very high for my standards. The reasons were 1) the stupid mistakes i told you before 2) Some hands where I adjusted to the villain cause of some stats and I was aware that my move doesn't agree with Snowie. Mixed some speed NL100 tables as well. So let's go...

Results
Hands 1850
Profit -505$
Bankroll 2000$




And now let's see my HUGE mistakes (I can't explain my moves so please don't ask!!)

HAND 1



Snowie suggest's check river. The villain was a bit loose with high wtsd so I think I should try to extract value from all the pairs he is holding. But my river size is just terrible, I believe a smaller size is lot better otherwise check is good too.

HAND 2



Please don't ask. I can't understand how i shoved here. Snowie is right I believe. Since I checked the turn I have to check the river as well in order to extract some thin valuebets and some bluffs. This way I balance my cbet bluffs here where I cbet flop and check/fold turn and river. Cbet the turn is acceptable too from Snowie (maybe the best option)

HAND 3



Terrible turn bet. Since I checked the flop I need to tell the story ''Hey I have QQ,JJ'' .

Now the hands i was aware of Snowie's advice



Villain open 8% from utg. nothing to discuss i think



Why Snowie ??? (Villain regfish)



I prefer slowplay AA or KK vs the shortstack there. I was aware of the call suggestion but I didn't know that CALL EV is so higher than ALL IN EV. Any thoughts?

And finally a big bluff (Snowie agrees)


I d love to hear feedback on the hands guys...gl to all at the tables

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First off very interesting and thank you for sharing with us.
Can you share the reason you dont play on Stars? You would get the most volume on Stars, lets say grinding Zoom 100 -> 200 -> 500 , i understand why you would choose ipoker reg tables over Stars, but have you seriously considered Zooming since you play more and more on "auto-pilot"?

Good luck and def subbed!
Well my choice is clearly depended on the rake-rakeback. On stars NL100 I pay approx 5.3bb/100 in rake and NL200 around 4bb/100 (pre rakeback). Since I am not supernova already I think that I couldn't take more than 30-35% rb.

On ipoker now I pay around 6bb/100-->NL100 and 4.4bb/100-->NL200 with a standard 64% of rakeback plus some cash races. With cash race I might end up with a total 80-90% of rakeback. So I believe there is no reason to play on Stars except the great software.
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Yes, I will be happy to see some examples. Also, it would be interesting if you were posting some interesting hands on your current stakes. For example if you disagree with Snowie or you are not sure why Snowie made that decision. It would be interesting to have a place we could discuss Snowie's moves between ourselves.

How do you deal with a rakeback? Do you have flat through affiliates or you are going to climb in VIP levels?
TheRider I ll search my database the next couple of days to find some hands from NL20 where Snowie is completely wrong...then we can make a good analysis on those, check Snowie assumptions etc

P.S. I just noticed a mistake in the error rate photo...forgot to import around 500hands, leave them for next time...cheers
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i pay 9.5 to 11bb depending on number of players @ nl100

I thought regular sites were closer to 8 ish. Good to know that i can add 5bb to my winrates to compare with stars


My problem with snowie is that it always makes you check. I played a bot that uses most of what snowie says and its really annoying to play against and it seems to work but when you do it its just so annoying to always check.(coming from a 40% cbetter)
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i pay 9.5 to 11bb depending on number of players @ nl100

I thought regular sites were closer to 8 ish. Good to know that i can add 5bb to my winrates to compare with stars


My problem with snowie is that it always makes you check. I played a bot that uses most of what snowie says and its really annoying to play against and it seems to work but when you do it its just so annoying to always check.(coming from a 40% cbetter)
You re right Snowie check a lot. Actually if you follow it 100% your flop cbet stat will be between 45-50%. This isn't so much wrong cause your checking range is getting stronger and mixed (air hands-medium strenght hands-nut hands). Also if you noticed, most of the the hands that seemed as cbets and Snowie suggest check back usually is almost same +EV move (have like 0.05bb difference. For example



Here cbet is like 0.35bb less in EV terms than the check. It is something but not huge difference i think (i don't know why is checking there btw).

My biggest problem with Snowie's checks is on the river. I have a ton of hands where I can find thin valuebets, or even huge valuebets...but Snowie suggests to check. Hands like the that.



Not good screenshot. I 3bet preflop, check flop, call the turn bet...On the river villain checks and most of times here his range is capped I believe. Villain shouldn't check nut hands because most of the times I ll check back here. If some player more experienced than me could share his thoughts on this hand I would really appreciate.
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i cbet 40% and i think snowie checks too much.

the river check is probably because logic wise the program cant bet/call that river and it knows that its a good theorical move to CR vs a small thin bet in this spot

When in fact its a good spot to bet/call


Or it could be that it assumes that villain always CF Qx and worse because villain is is a good bot and it knows that you have a wide chk back strategy as well as you are playing as snowie.

Anyways play more. I really want to see if following snowie is good enough to beat 1/2 any tables
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Hi there,

I'm going to give you my impressions of Snowie's decisions. But don't treat me like an expert, please. I'm just a Snowie student with much less experience than yours I believe. I will be happy to get a feedback of my thinking process.

Hand 1

I definitely agree with Snowie. Check might induce a bluff and you certainly have a good bluff catcher. I understand you could think he is bluff catching you calling your raises, that's why you expected him to bluff catch you again with trips or two pairs or unlikely straight, however it's not the case anymore when third heart comes on a board. With a such a big raise he would only call you higher flush, full house or quads. Bear in mind for Snowie BB has wide range with a lot of suited combos. So flush is very likely for Snowie. Also, if you checked the villian would bet smaller not to scare you off, so you would loose less money. That was decent pot, so if he had nothing he would rather bet to take a pot.

I run this scenario and Snowie does not recommend check/raising. Again, villian would only call nuts. Betting half pot would be reasonable, but if he raised you would be in a hard spot (higher flush) regardless his actual hand.

Hand 2

I run this scenario as well and I've noticed that Snowie was strongly recommending to bet the turn(94%). I know it's easy to say afterwords, but you would certainly ovoid river trouble if you actually bet a turn. For few reasons:

- If you bet the turn the villain is more likely believe you were on a flush draw. However not many players bet just with flush draw when only one card to come. This would be mainly case if your opponent thought you are floating just with a draw. But still at least a bigger chance the villain would fold.

- This is actually a big lesson for me as well that slow-play on such a wet board is a bad idea. If we look at the button range, there are so many hands which gives villain many straight draws or even straight.

The river is similar to the previous hand. Villain could think, if he had a flush why would he bet so much? He would rather try to invite me to bet or call a reasonable bet. That was great call from him anyway.

Hand 3

I don't understand why there is such a big difference in EV. I understand the Snowie's principle to keep the pot small with a small hand, especially OOP. I presume Snowie is thinking that villian was playing very aggressively from UTG, so his range must be very tight, containing mainly AA and KK.

Hand 4

I think the biggest problem is that you are giving good odds to the blinds. If they call you are reducing you chances if the flop hits. I think AK is not great in multiway pot. I think Snowie generally doesn't want us to play in multiway. That's way is so aggressive pre-flop.

Hand 5

Villain was very aggressive and he big 4 bet preflop. This must be indication of strong hand. There is a rule in poker which I think Snowie follows, you need a bigger hand to call than to raise. I think Snowie believes in this case that villain has at least over-pair. Also, if we look at the villains pot odds(pot is bigger than his stack), it is very unlikely he is going to fold, considering the preflop play. Do you have a chance to find out what he had. I think he was likely to have AK as well. Maybe he also fallows the rule that we need bigger hand to call than to raise and thats why he folded

Hand 6

If you have a look at the pre-flop advisor, Snowie from BB raises only the best hands after a raise from middle position. This range crushing your QQ. Also due to pot odds issue, villain is not afraid to call with AK, which still gives villain about 45% equity. But according to Snowie AK is pretty much the best case scenario. I'm not really sure if I'm right in this case, as I read that Snowie doesn't only consider his own ranges, but also ranges of bots Snowie was playing with.

Hand 7

I think you were on a tilt. Same like your opponent. This hand is not on a buttons opening range. You were fearless betting the river despite the fact that villain called a bet on a flop and turn, but it was really poor play from villain. Well done for courage. I can understand why Snowie agreed with you on a river, but did he also agreed on a turn? I think many opponents would call with one pair if the saw missed flash draw.

Hand 8 (the one in the next post)

The pot is so small, so If you bet and villain has got nothing he will fold. But if he got something:

- he might call and if you don't make you flush he might bluff catch you on a turn and a river and you loose the bigger pot

- he might check/raise you so you would have to fold and loose a chance to make a very strong hand

- You didn't bet a flop, so if third diamond comes villain might find it as a good opportunity to bluff pretending he has got flush.

Hand 9 (the last)

I think Snowie is afraid of two things:

- villain is slow-playing - I've just checked a flopzilla and according to Snowie the range for Button contains about 30% of hands with Ace. If villain was Snowie he would thing that it's very likely you have an Ace. Much more likely than a Queen. So If villain had strong hand(like two pairs,trips or straight - thgere is 56s in buttons range) he would check expecting to face a value bet.

- villain could check-raise - Pair of Aces is a hand strong enough to win at showdown, but It could be not enough to call a check-raise

If villain had a weaker hand it would very unlikely he would call a bet with an Ace on a board.

I think your opponent was trying to win a pot on the turn. When you called he realized you must hasve something and he gave up.

That would be it. I am looking forward to hear a feedback.
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Ok let's take it hand by hand

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I definitely agree with Snowie. Check might induce a bluff and you certainly have a good bluff catcher. I understand you could think he is bluff catching you calling your raises, that's why you expected him to bluff catch you again with trips or two pairs or unlikely straight, however it's not the case anymore when third heart comes on a board. With a such a big raise he would only call you higher flush, full house or quads. Bear in mind for Snowie BB has wide range with a lot of suited combos. So flush is very likely for Snowie. Also, if you checked the villian would bet smaller not to scare you off, so you would loose less money. That was decent pot, so if he had nothing he would rather bet to take a pot.

I run this scenario and Snowie does not recommend check/raising. Again, villian would only call nuts. Betting half pot would be reasonable, but if he raised you would be in a hard spot (higher flush) regardless his actual hand.
I totally agree with you. Indeed Snowie doesn't suggest x/r on the flop but it evaluate it only -0.08 EV when fold is on 0. Combined with the fact that villain opens around 60% and cbet almost 70% (his cbets is mainly bluffs) make clear that x/r is a +EV move here in my opinion.

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I run this scenario as well and I've noticed that Snowie was strongly recommending to bet the turn(94%). I know it's easy to say afterwords, but you would certainly ovoid river trouble if you actually bet a turn. For few reasons:

- If you bet the turn the villain is more likely believe you were on a flush draw. However not many players bet just with flush draw when only one card to come. This would be mainly case if your opponent thought you are floating just with a draw. But still at least a bigger chance the villain would fold.

- This is actually a big lesson for me as well that slow-play on such a wet board is a bad idea. If we look at the button range, there are so many hands which gives villain many straight draws or even straight.

The river is similar to the previous hand. Villain could think, if he had a flush why would he bet so much? He would rather try to invite me to bet or call a reasonable bet. That was great call from him anyway.
I agree 100%

Hand 3
Agree here again. I missread the hand before, didn't remember of the 4bet. You re right.

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I think the biggest problem is that you are giving good odds to the blinds. If they call you are reducing you chances if the flop hits. I think AK is not great in multiway pot. I think Snowie generally doesn't want us to play in multiway. That's way is so aggressive pre-flop.
Disagree here. Since the villain opens only 8%, if I 3bet my AK becomes a 3bet bluff (cause if he 4bet I m folding) !!...I must have a calling range vs his opening range. Against so nit villain I would call only AK,AQo,88-QQ and would 3bet bluff only something like AQs,AJs,KQs. Snowie here assumes that the utg open 16%.

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Hand 5

Villain was very aggressive and he big 4 bet preflop. This must be indication of strong hand. There is a rule in poker which I think Snowie follows, you need a bigger hand to call than to raise. I think Snowie believes in this case that villain has at least over-pair. Also, if we look at the villains pot odds(pot is bigger than his stack), it is very unlikely he is going to fold, considering the preflop play. Do you have a chance to find out what he had. I think he was likely to have AK as well. Maybe he also fallows the rule that we need bigger hand to call than to raise and thats why he folded
I think you maybe missread the hand. Btn 3bet my CO open, sb calls and I 4bet. Of course the reasons I m shoving are 1) Pot is bigger than villain's stack 2) Having some equity if get called 3) Having LOT folding equity because villain 3bets and call 4bet in a multiway pot instead of shove. This is not JJ,QQ,KK probably. I have blocker on the AA too.

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Hand 6

If you have a look at the pre-flop advisor, Snowie from BB raises only the best hands after a raise from middle position. This range crushing your QQ. Also due to pot odds issue, villain is not afraid to call with AK, which still gives villain about 45% equity. But according to Snowie AK is pretty much the best case scenario. I'm not really sure if I'm right in this case, as I read that Snowie doesn't only consider his own ranges, but also ranges of bots Snowie was playing with.
Snowie preflop advisor saying that the BB 3bets there with ATs+, AJo+, KQs, TT+, 66-99 (50% of the times), A4s-A9s (40-80% of the) times. I crush that range obv.

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Hand 7

I think you were on a tilt. Same like your opponent. This hand is not on a buttons opening range. You were fearless betting the river despite the fact that villain called a bet on a flop and turn, but it was really poor play from villain. Well done for courage. I can understand why Snowie agreed with you on a river, but did he also agreed on a turn? I think many opponents would call with one pair if the saw missed flash draw.
Yes Snowie agrees in all streets. Actually it gives +1.70EV bet the flop, +5.22EV bet the turn and +5.69EV shove the river. All moves have huge EV difference instead of checking (check gives 1,47/ 3.56/ 5.69)

I believe you are getting a bit results oriented here. Firstly preflop open is only -0.01EV when fold is 0. Villain is fold to steal is around 60% so it's clearly a steal to me. Now let's go on flop. The guy checks, what is he usually represent here actually?

Slowplay Nut Hands
AQ,KQ,99,QQ,Q9s (he should cbet most of the times with these but let's say he checked)
Pot Control with showdown value hands+Air hands for x/fold
77-AA,Axs+,AKo,suited one gappers/connectors (He might cbet the AA,KK)

Snowie advices the 3barrell here because it's a clear spot where the villain can call very tight on the river. Actually it give him call only with QQ,Q9,99,TT. Of course KJs is a clear cbet flop for Snowie and for me, so it is not in his river range. Also he is folding all the pairs with the river shove. I was not on tilt for sure, it happened the first minutes of my session.
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Old 01-14-2015, 04:58 AM   #25
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Yesterday's session went well, could have been a lot better if I didn't run so bad in some spots. Anyway I start feeling more comfortable with my game day by day...let's see results

Hands 1821
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I ll post blunders today after session...gl to all guys
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