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10-02-2017 , 02:42 AM
Hey wasup everyone!!

I hope this post finds u all in good health and mentally strong!

September (finallyyyyyy) gone and im feeling pretty good about this new Month. Despite the run bad (and obv the "play bad") of last month i took some valuable lessons and i believe i ve grown a lil bit more as a player throught these tough times.

I realised even more that nothing good comes easy and after all these i even feel like i didnt deserve ANY scores or big bux yet, as i am not ready and my game isnt strong enough (yet). I strongly believe that this is the best thing that could happen to me (regarding moving up stakes), as now i am very VERY very motivated to improve myself even more, which otherwise my ego/luck wouldn't allow me to see.

I ve made a new weekly plan which i think will allow me to bring my best @ the tables, but also maintain some balance in my life, a factor that was very much disregarded through September.

Ok Lets have a look:

Monday: Morning work - 40 min power nap after that - gym session - supermarket - cook my meals for the night and 2morrow - chill with my gf/friends in the evening

Tuesday: Morning work - session starts early (str8 after work) and finishes late (try to put as many timbys as i can)

Wednesday: session day. See Tuesday

Thursday: Morning work - 40 min powernap after that - gym session - chill with da hommies/my gf

Friday: Morning work - Study - Study- Then Study some more. I will try to include 1 lengthy video + hhs analysis (post here as well) + icmize the **** out of my marked hands on those study hours.

Saturday: Enjoy couple of hours of extra sleep - Hit the gym around noon - Free day/ whatever i fancy doing

Sunday(Tin tin tin): Have a strong breakfast and spend some time with my gf/hommies be4 the session. Start session early and finish late. Volumiiiiize!

Aight boyz so this is my weekly plan and i will try to be true to it through October

My original goals aint chainging but ima list 2 new goals that i MUST achieve be4 Xmas and ofc my weekly numbers.

September Week#4

Mtts: 228/250 (c'mon get there ffs)

Gym: 1/2 (this changes now and for good)

Review(h): 1/1

Training Videos Watched: 0/1

**New Schedule in Bullets**

Mtts: X/250

Sessions: X/3

Gym: X/3

Study hours: X/3


EXTRA goals till Xmas:

1) Get a new 32" - 34" Monitor ASAP (currently playing with 2 monitors but cant multitable properly and having a good setup is KEY if i wanna grind seriously)

Do u guys use 1 big monitor or 2-3 smaller ones?

2) Get PIO solver asap and put MASSIVE study hours even if it means cutting lil volume.

Yesterday i booked a small winner session after a loooong time. Actually pretty small but it was nicely timed to enhance my mental strength

Ok so this is it boyz. Let me know what u think and feel free to share any recommendations/advice.

Have a great new month! Leggoooo!!!

PS: HHs every Friday now

Last edited by Scarecrow_; 10-02-2017 at 02:54 AM.
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10-02-2017 , 04:09 PM
I use notebook which is 13inch for lobby and things on side and 27inch with QHD for grinding. Great for 12 tables. I would however like 3rd smaller monitor, like 21 inch for charts and more space for lobby and silly stuff. I will add that in future

I think PIO solver is good idea if you use it a lot. Do you have ICIMIzer or Holdem resources?
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10-02-2017 , 04:10 PM
also, what is your screename?
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10-03-2017 , 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by abecede
I use notebook which is 13inch for lobby and things on side and 27inch with QHD for grinding. Great for 12 tables. I would however like 3rd smaller monitor, like 21 inch for charts and more space for lobby and silly stuff. I will add that in future

I think PIO solver is good idea if you use it a lot. Do you have ICIMIzer or Holdem resources?
Hey man tnx 4 ur post,

The thing is i like my tables to be quite large (tiny tables tilt me) and i do not love the stack tables format as well. So i guess thats the main reason i wanna change my basic monitor. From what i understand u play with smaller tables since u fit 12 in one 27" monitor.

I have used ICMIzer in the past (the free version) but i am about to buy it at the end of this week or beginning of next. I didnt use to study or do anything else besides playing or talking with better players, since only some months ago (when this thread started). PIOsolver is an investment i will do along the way until Xmas, as it is quite expensive and it's not like ive solved everything else yet hehe The point of No Return... . So yeah will do it at some point. im currently saving for my br as much as i can obviously.

Allow me to not want to share my screename at this point, (maybe in the future) but i will post my graph since ive started this challenge when i partially complete it (Xmas) in order to have a better sample.

Thanx again 4 ur post and dont hesitate to post any other questions or whatevah.

I will be posting hhs every Friday so feel free to shate ur opinion if/when u want ( i see we play more or less the same abi).

Take care man and best of luck with ur goals as well.

Peace!
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10-03-2017 , 05:53 AM
Yea m tables are quite tiny but I dont stack tables at all and see all of my windows. Its just matter of habit. Ok no worries, wht is your abi and your BR at that abi?
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10-03-2017 , 06:41 AM
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Yea m tables are quite tiny but I dont stack tables at all and see all of my windows. Its just matter of habit. Ok no worries, wht is your abi and your BR at that abi?
My abi is around 18€ - 20$ and i am currently a bit underolled. I have like 1,5k€, but went through a large swing last month when i took a shot in bigger buy-ins that went completely wrong. (Had 4k€ at the time).

It was a difficult month but i think i ve made something good out of this, as i probably thought i was better than i actually am be4 my swing. I also met and introduced to tournament poker and variance The point of No Return... so i stay humble, positive and keep pushing forward no matter what. Mental strength is a real issue with this game, that i have to master

I also have a day job so i can play a bit underolled at this point, try to grind back my profits and my confidence.

Study and improvement are my #1 goal atm and of course as much volume as i can. I hope/aim to reach 1k mtts until the end of the year (began September on this side-goal) and currently i am a little behind schedule so i got to push a bit harder (226/250mtts target in September).

Its always nice to get some action with my thread and make some interesting conversations, rather than just me monologuing it The point of No Return... so thank you 4 ur time man and stay tuned for more Friday is review-study day so i post HHs here as well

Peace man and glglgl!!
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10-03-2017 , 07:17 AM
Yea, lately I am thinking that the best mtt players arent the smartest but the ones that are able to withstand the insane variance and play their A or B game even when they get **** on.

From my point of view you are quite underrolled, be careful Gl at tables, looking forward to the updates
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10-04-2017 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by abecede
Yea, lately I am thinking that the best mtt players arent the smartest but the ones that are able to withstand the insane variance and play their A or B game even when they get **** on.

From my point of view you are quite underrolled, be careful Gl at tables, looking forward to the updates
Thank you buddy i really appreciate it!

I select mtts with small fields (hardly, if ever, >500 entries field) so hopefully I won't hit that 0 point hehe The point of No Return... . Although if i drop close to 1k i will decrease my abi and cut some more costly mtts out of my schedule.

Last two sessions were small winners so hopefully i can get a lil confidence back. I ve got another session planned 4 today so fingers crossed.

Cheers buddy!

Last edited by Scarecrow_; 10-04-2017 at 03:13 AM.
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10-09-2017 , 02:41 AM
October Week #1

Sessions: 3/3

Gym: 3/3 (feels good2beback)

Study hours: 1/3 (sigh)

Hey guyz wassup!!

October started on the "+" side which is always nice. I am quite happy with my volume on the tables but also me finally geting some proper gym workout.

I didnt study as much as i wanted though. I did manage to put 1 hour (approx) and review some marked hands. Found out that i missed 2 very crucial and obv ICM spots @ last 2 tables of one of my "good" timbys which kinda hurt, but i am happy as i seem to be getting way better with ICM identifying these spots (1st step of the problem) and hopefully won't repeat them in the future.

This month ima also gonna start playing for a live timbey package, so i will post for that as well. (Was one of my "side goals" until xmas but wasnt playing through September for this).

I am feeling better and stronger mentally and I hope i can remain that way.

So this week's schedule will look like this:

Monday: gym day - legs/shoulders - free @ night

Tuesday: session day

Wednesday: gym day - chest/triceps - free

Thursday: Study after work - football match

Friday: session day

Saturday: Morning gym - back/biceps - free day

Sunday: session day


Random Fact
I am a very outgoing person and i always ADORED sports. Football, basketball, tennis, table tennis, surf/windsurf and of course dancing!! I even love sports that ive never tried but have watched on tv, like baseball or golf!!

So since Uefa Champions League started this year, i ve been watching some matches with my friends and i ve constantly found myself "forecasting" the correct outcome, even though there were no bets placed. So i am thinking it will be fun to have a "side journey/challenge" in here along with my poker efforts.

I am going to deposit 100€ online and i am gonna try to run it up as much as i can
I will be betting on Champions League Matches ONLY so this wont be frequent, but i will post my results here ^_^ ( if u guys want i can of course share my bets before i place them, here every Monday be4 the games)

So this is it for now. Please feel free to share your thoughts or whateva u want.

Have a great week boyz! Lets gettem!

Peace!

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10-09-2017 , 08:55 PM
Love the passion in your words! It sure has to do with you beeing greek (correct me if I am wrong). Post that pictures from your hometown! Don't "clickbait" us and not deliver haha ))
Poker related, I don't reccomend you investing in PIOSolver right now. I have never used PIO by myself, I know people who did and saw some work on it and I think it's a fantastic tool, but I think you are jumping some steps and invest too big of a fraction of your bankroll in it. And especially if you say you don't have too much time for study. It's probably better to save this for when you will be playing full time.
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10-10-2017 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bambookoo
Love the passion in your words! It sure has to do with you beeing greek (correct me if I am wrong). Post that pictures from your hometown! Don't "clickbait" us and not deliver haha ))
Poker related, I don't reccomend you investing in PIOSolver right now. I have never used PIO by myself, I know people who did and saw some work on it and I think it's a fantastic tool, but I think you are jumping some steps and invest too big of a fraction of your bankroll in it. And especially if you say you don't have too much time for study. It's probably better to save this for when you will be playing full time.
Hey buddy,

1st of thanx 4 ur post and ur kind words!

I do have a lot of passion in my life with the aspects that i trully love + u got me there The point of No Return... I am aware though that i gave up a specific tell in this thread, so if some1 paid attention would have known. On the other hand, If thats not the case how u found out/guessed it, then WOW i am really impressed and that would only mean 3 things The point of No Return... The point of No Return... (correct me if im wrong)

1.) You ve been here a fair share
2.) You have a close friend/or experienced a lot our temperament
3.) You are a neighboor

(clickbait game strong at this point )

Indeed i ow you some pictures and will do post when i am back home! That wont be too soon though im afraid :/

Pokerwise, thank you 4 your advice. Its something i ve discussed with 2 poker friends of mine that are around your level of success in the poker world and they share your opinion. So probably will reconsider this 4 the time being.

Thank you again buddy and feel welcomed to post in here anytime. Ima surely gonna actively follow your journey's updates

Best of luck!!
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10-10-2017 , 12:24 PM
Is this going to turn into betting PGC thread ud you are more successful at it than poker?
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10-11-2017 , 01:47 AM
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Is this going to turn into betting PGC thread ud you are more successful at it than poker?
Hahahaha if i can manage to turn 100€ to XX.XXX€ then i will consider going pro hahaahha The point of No Return...

Jokes aside, it was a spontaneous thing after the standar conversation with my buddies while watching the games and I thought it would be fun. There is no serious money involved afterall. (Bets won't exceed 5 - 15€ each time as i would like not to "reload" soon/again and to have some money to "play with" @ game-days.

Peace man
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10-15-2017 , 04:52 PM
Subbed. Lets do this!
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10-16-2017 , 02:58 AM
October Week#2

Sessions: 3/3

Gym: 3/3 (+football match)

Study hours: 0/3

Hey wasup everyone

I am quite disapointed with the fact that i didnt put ANY study hours this past week but at least i am getting some kind of volume at the gym. Pokerwise it was yet another bad-ish week unfortunately, which i manage to save literally in the last minute, or i would be looking in quite a big(er) hole.

Seeing this thread from the start until know i can very clearly see that is just SUPER hard to fit so many things at a daily schedule without missing "something". I can see weeks that ive studied but neglected gym, played a ton but neglected food prep, friends etc.

I ve talked about balance in life be4 and I am trying my best there. Its funny how when i was at my 1st poker steps, playing a ton and making some money despite me being way worse but cauz fields were way softer, it was the 1st time i had this thought :
"Damn this game cant be played "for fun" and expect any serious outcome. I must either play as if it was my only income and i depend on how well i perform at it, or stop 4 good".

I remember that thought till today. At the time i stopped due to my masters degree and had to prioritize some **** in my life.

Anyway i think my mind got lost along these lines/thoughts so ima stop now. I want this thread to be sincere and negativity FREE, so i HAVE to keep pushing. I wont stop. Although if i cant share some "bad" or "whatever" thoughts along the way whats the point? I do not want to be the guy who only update his threads when things go well.

So this week i will:

1) Study as much as i can and try to identify what am i missing and why cant i turn things around (or if im just a bit hit by variance)

2) See at least 5 educational videos

3) Review my marked hands with ICMizer and post some hh's here

Last but not least, regarding my sports betting side gig , i havent got any time to see and select any bets regarding tomorrow's Champions League matches. Will do that today and share it later

@Time2Rise
Thanks buddy! You and me both ^_^

Have a great new week everyone and stay strong!

Peace all!

Last edited by Scarecrow_; 10-16-2017 at 03:04 AM.
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10-16-2017 , 12:41 PM
Afternoon boyz,

Small update split in 2 parts. Here we go:

Part 1

Tommorows CL matches.

1. Mar - Liverpool -> over 2.5 goals

2. Manc. City - Napoli -> over 2.5 goals

3. Monaco - Besiktas -> X

bet 5$ to win 41.80$

This is a side gig just 4 fun so dont expect analysis or anything :P just having some fun with ma hommies.

Part 2

Hand #1
Villain is big winner at my stakes and reg obv. This is not my standar play, shove is the obv/standar, but tried to trap here having a shortstack behind me and taking the risk to double up as i was quite short through this tournament (didn't have much going on) and on a tough table overall. Thoughts? Too short to flat here pre?

MP+1 (MP+1): 11,744 (VPIP: 19.12, PFR: 17.29, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 142)
Hero (CO): 8,495
BTN (BTN): 49,279 (VPIP: 24.73, PFR: 17.98, 3Bet Preflop: 11.43, Hands: 94)
SB (SB): 6,257 (VPIP: 13.11, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 61)
BB (BB): 17,901 (VPIP: 23.85, PFR: 11.27, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 221)
UTG (UTG): 9,924 (VPIP: 24.50, PFR: 19.44, 3Bet Preflop: 10.50, Hands: 552)
UTG+1 (UTG+1): 9,818 (VPIP: 23.66, PFR: 2.72, 3Bet Preflop: 3.66, Hands: 187)
MP (MP): 9,457 (VPIP: 23.94, PFR: 21.74, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 71)

8 players post ante of 60, SB posts SB 300, BB posts BB 600

Dealt to Hero: KhKs

UTG raises to 1,200, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1,200, fold, fold, BB calls 600

Flop (4,380, 3 players): Jc5cTs

BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 1,505, BB calls 1,505, UTG raises to 8,664 and is all-in, Hero calls 5,730 and is all-in, BB calls 7,159

Turn (28,943, 3 players):7c


River (28,943, 3 players):5h


Take care everyone! glgl at the tables!

Peace
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10-18-2017 , 02:09 AM
Hey boyz,

Quick update:

Bricked the gambol (2/3) so gonna try again 2day. Havent picked up matches yet. Will do in the afternoonz.

Schedule is:

Rest after work - hit the gym - get back and study - buddies coming over tonight 4 the games

So gambol BR: 95$

I ll try and post some HHs on other sections too as it seems to not geting much talk about them in here (Maybe not intresting hands after all).

Ok so take care everyone catch u later.

Peace!
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10-18-2017 , 09:33 AM
Subbed, cool thread. Would advise you to take an even more critical look at your hands, since hands like the last kings aren't very interesting. I might overdo the marking a bit, but every session I mark like at least 20 hands and it is whenever you are uncertain you should do so. Then after your session review those and try to come up with a solution for that specific. That concept really helped me a lot
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10-19-2017 , 02:05 AM
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Subbed, cool thread. Would advise you to take an even more critical look at your hands, since hands like the last kings aren't very interesting. I might overdo the marking a bit, but every session I mark like at least 20 hands and it is whenever you are uncertain you should do so. Then after your session review those and try to come up with a solution for that specific. That concept really helped me a lot
Hey buddy welcome

Tnx 4 the advice and your time! Yeah i can imagine some hands (hopefully not all) that ive posted HHs here in the past maybe werent interesting or @ a "too early" stage, but with the last hand i totally agree with you.

The "good" part is, I ve found myself having marked many hands in 1 session at times(as u said) but also minimal in others and i have tried to jump in to reviewing str8 after session which was 100% helpful. The "bad" part is that most times after session im pretty tired to stay there 1/2 - 1h more, plus i have to wake up early next day 4 work. Although the very few times i did it was indeed very helpful as i remember the hands and the situations way better, than coming back to review them the following days.

I have been following your thread and i have to say i really enjoyed you posting HHs and analyzing them. The way you put down your thinking process really help me in better understanding the game + to see some moves (i didnt have in my arsenal) and i thank you 4 that. Seriously not all players, even best, are good in sharing/teaching their knowledge to others. (You have to deeply understand the situation and not just "ok A7 on the CO 10bbs = shove" etc.)

I really hope you continue to post HHs and ofc BiiiiiiiG "lobbys" as i wish you all the best! I will try my best to mark and analyze as much as i can after sessions, post more interesting hands and discuss them here in the future

Small Question:

I have read your story from the very begining in ur thread. I know you are 1 step be4 closing ur master thesis + i know you have been in a really bad swing in the past.

What i want to ask you is "Where do u see your immediate future after graduation?". I mean will you go and try to play 4 a living str8 ahead or you have plans entering corpo world (or whatever) when u get ur masters (and play on the side)?

If you dont feel like answering these obv dont, those were just some questions i had to answer when i finished my masters too, so i was just curious to see what u think there, esp since u are way better than i was 3 years ago after graduation.

Thank u once again 4 ur post and hope to see u in here more

Cheers buddy!
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10-19-2017 , 06:50 AM
KK hand is okay as played in vacuum but u dont wanna be playing 20bb traps vs regs like that, it's far too obvious.

im not sure that i understood quite right, but u said that u play abi15 with 1500eu roll ? if that's the case that's veeeery bad BRM, i ll suggest u going down or smt because 3 4 5k eu swings on those levels are super standard
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10-19-2017 , 07:27 AM
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KK hand is okay as played in vacuum but u dont wanna be playing 20bb traps vs regs like that, it's far too obvious.

im not sure that i understood quite right, but u said that u play abi15 with 1500eu roll ? if that's the case that's veeeery bad BRM, i ll suggest u going down or smt because 3 4 5k eu swings on those levels are super standard
Hey man

First of all thank you 4 ur post and time.

As for the hand i understand is too obvious + its not what i "usually" do (jam), just wondering if its ok to try "trap" pre soooo shallow, if u been playing very few hands in a specific tournament and just trying to find a spot to double. I understand the above hand isnt much interesting in general but will try and fix that in updates to come.

As for the BR part i would like to share 2 things, as obv right now this may look like super bad BRM.

1) This is not my entire roll (just the money i have online on the site) as i dont play 4 a living atm and can replanish if/when needed. (Got a day job atm)

2) I do not play on stars (except very few exceptions on mtts </=11$) so my fields are wayyyy smaller and softer than stars.

Edit: had some missclick edit so hopefully all make sense. Im on my mobile atm thts way.

Anyway tnx again and best of luck with your journey too. I like the fact that you post HHs too so keep em coming and hopefully in the future mine will be more interesting too

Peace buddy!

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10-23-2017 , 03:35 AM
October Week#3

Sessions: 3/3

Gym: 2/3 (minor injury on my iliopsoas - hurt pretty bad though)

Study hours: 3/3 (finally ^_^ )

Hi everyone,

I had a mixture of run good/bad this week. I started really strong, along the way i injured my right iliopsoas which sux and still am in a bit of pain, but finished the week ok-ish too with a nice solid weekend.

So i played all three sessions and what i am very happy about is that i actually study quite a lot this week (maybe even more than 3/3h). I ve reviewd some hands, ICMizer went on fire. I really want to master ICM as i think that even this alone will make a big difference in my overal results/profits. Ofc there are more aspects to improve obv, but for start i want to be 100% sure and confident about ICM spots!

I also saw 2 videos regarding "defend vs 3bets" from several positions/stacks and i really look forward to more. I really really really enjoyed the study and i wish i had even more time to do so. I didnt think i ll love it so much, but i did and it opened my eyes BIG time, esp in some spots!

After several recommendations, i bought "Think and grow rich" (by Napoleon Hill) last week and started reading it I will share my thoughts or anything i find interesting along the way + i will do a review when i finish it

Was a good Sunday 4 me poker wise. Green found me again so thats good lets stay here for a while The point of No Return...

Have a nice week everyone! Lets finish October strong!

Glgl to all the heroes!

Peace!
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10-23-2017 , 03:13 PM
Hey mate, I like your positivity and I can see how we have similar attitudes. This will lead you far in life poker or not. GL with your goals.
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10-24-2017 , 02:37 AM
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Hey mate, I like your positivity and I can see how we have similar attitudes. This will lead you far in life poker or not. GL with your goals.
Hey amigo welcome!!

Thank you for your kind words, much appreciated brother!!
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10-27-2017 , 11:08 AM
Hello guys,

Been a bit busy this week outside poker so got little behind with volume..hopefully can catch up the weekend and finish the month strong.
I did manage to put 1 session so far.

I would like to listen to your thoughts on the following hand.

FT - 5handed
I have no specific info for the villain at this point (80 hands only also).
My image at the table is pretty tight id say even though i got in 1st~2nd in chips avgstack was pretty low so i was playing quite carefully.


BB (BB): 30.11 BB (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 62)
UTG (UTG): 49.56 BB (VPIP: 25.15, PFR: 19.87, 3Bet Preflop: 6.35, Hands: 336)
CO (CO): 20.15 BB (VPIP: 27.35, PFR: 20.17, 3Bet Preflop: 5.19, Hands: 376)
BTN (BTN): 26.29 BB (VPIP: 21.33, PFR: 15.28, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 78)
Hero (SB): 44 BB

5 players post ante of 0.1 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Dealt to Hero:8h8d


fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.2 BB, Hero raises to 6.3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 26.19 BB and is all-in, Hero ?

Is this considered "close" spot or not at all? i expect aggression from the villain but my image is tight and he is aware of that.

Anyway appreciate your thoughts.

Take care and glgl all!!

Edit: all players left are winners at my stakes.
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