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02-22-2018 , 05:13 AM
Hello guys,

2 sessions in the books already this week, gonna play 1 more on Sunday and close the month on coming Tuesday (most likely).

Here are 2 hands from my last sessions that i would like to hear your opinion.

Hand#1

The hand is VS a very good player. I dont have stats for him since its a 100$ mtt in which i satty into, so this is not in my normal games and the avg. skill level is higher. I just know the villain's nickname and the fact that he is a very solid winner.

UTG: 4,695 (VPIP: 29.64, PFR: 20.79, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 975)

UTG+1: 9,649 (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)

MP: 4,970 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

Hero (MP+1): 7,000

CO: 4,990 (VPIP: 20.03, PFR: 15.50, 3Bet Preflop: 8.12, Hands: 7,208)

BTN: 4,354 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 8.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)

SB: 4,650 (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)

BB: 7,035 (VPIP: 17.98, PFR: 13.18, 3Bet Preflop: 5.42, Hands: 1,285)

Blinds 50/100.

Hero has Th Tc

fold, fold, MP raises to 210, Hero raises to 675, fold, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 465

Flop : (1,500, 2 players) 7d Kh Jc
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn : (1,500, 2 players) Ts
MP checks, Hero bets 840, MP raises to 4,285 and is all-in, fold

Hero??

Lines and sizes?


Hand#2

I don't have particular info for the Villain. Pretty unknown to me.

BB: 12,685 (VPIP: 35.48, PFR: 16.13, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 32)

UTG: 6,487 (VPIP: 25.94, PFR: 18.95, 3Bet Preflop: 8.13, Hands: 2,876)

UTG+1: 7,887 (VPIP: 24.49, PFR: 18.25, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 148)

MP: 2,707 (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)

MP+1: 22,814 (VPIP: 27.84, PFR: 20.45, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 99)

Hero (CO): 12,226

BTN: 25,142 (VPIP: 20.32, PFR: 14.77, 3Bet Preflop: 8.02, Hands: 1,012)

SB: 3,660 (VPIP: 24.95, PFR: 19.48, 3Bet Preflop: 11.04, Hands: 2,554)

8 players post ante of 20, SB posts SB 100, BB posts BB 200

Pre Flop: (pot: 460) Hero has Td Kc
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 450, fold, fold, BB calls 250

Flop : (1,160, 2 players) 9d 5c Kh
BB checks, Hero bets 400, BB calls 400

Turn : (1,960, 2 players) Th
BB checks, Hero bets 1,400, BB calls 1,400

River : (4,760, 2 players) 9c
BB bets 2,800

Hero???

Appreciate your thoughts
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02-22-2018 , 01:47 PM
1st hand, i would flat pre rather than 3bet but I guess 3bet is fine. I would especially try to keep pot smaller vs better player than me ( so I dont make such a big of a mistake postflop ). We can't fold OTT, it's our best possible hand other than KK in some freq, so close your eyes and call turn as played. You dont want to be playing satties for tourneys in which you dont think you have an edge.

2nd I dunno really, would pbb call as well, he shouldnt be having much QJ/9x and he gave us alright price. With a good read a fold is also fine but it's also fu it spot...
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02-22-2018 , 05:05 PM
1: I don't really love 3 betting this pre-flop although there is merits to 3 betting for value and building a pot IP with stronger range post flop. Much prefer to call and pot control/include stronger hands in flat range+this hand sucks facing a 4 bet at these stack depths imo. I would prob size up a little bit on turn to set up a river jam. When he jams I think we're pretty high in our range (we could potentially have KK/89/AQ all with small frequencies) but yeah we beat all his bluffs and some hands in his value range+have outs vs his value range as well. Just think we call turn and be somewhat happy about it.

2. I think this Kx is a decent one to include in our checking range but c-bet is fine too. Might prefer a little bit larger sizing like 2/3 pot when so deep. Can apply pressure/get value from lots of sd combos/pairs etc. In theory this is an actual interesting spot to bluff jam (blocking/rep all the nut boats) although I don't think I'd do it just because unknown villain in early stages can sometimes get stubborn with straights/trips and we're also pretty high in our range. I sometimes just flick it in and call out of pure stubborn-ness and just from experience don't see bluffs in these spots that often. Don't really hate folding or calling but vs. population folding might save us a bit of EV. reads are pretty important here.
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02-23-2018 , 05:09 AM
Thank you both for your time and answer.

I appreciate ur 2cents.

Hand #1: I tank call and got shown AQ - brick river. Almost folded but thought i am not supposed to/cant fold this so called.

Felt so bad after it, not results oriented, but like i was an "open book" vs the specific villain and allowed him to play perfect vs me. I dont know if thats "too harsh self-critisism" and if i can ever explo fold vs specific villain.

@nomalice: I tottaly get what u say about no sattys to bigger, no-edge mtts and although i respect the way u say it (advice for my own good), i think i will disagree with u on this one. I think its very important in order to get better/evolve as a player, besides studying the game, to also get to play some (not a ton) higher games. I need to/want to put my self in difficult situations. I wanna play vs better players, in order for me to become "that better player" for more and more people in the future. I know i will be sacrificing ev/money but i also believe its super important that i do play them - make mistakes - discuss them - try to fix them - and all over again. This way in the future i will be more comfortable playing those games and facing those opponents (and my "fears").

Afterall i dont wanna be playing abi 10-20 for all my poker "carreer".

I wanna get tested A LOT and this is why i honestly APPRECIATE when players like you, Walmart, littlegoliath etc. come in this thread and comment on my hands.

If i could, id play with you guyz all day long, so cheers 2 y all!


Hand #2: I ended up folding. Thought in-play that i almost never get shown bluffs on those leads OTR, so i tank sigh fold.

Glgl Sunday amigos!! Cheers!!

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02-28-2018 , 05:39 AM
February 2018 Recap

Hola chicos,

I shall do a small recap of February. I am quite happy with my volume as i reached my goal for 1 more month.

Exact numbers would be 258/250 mtts.

Profit wise it was a break-even slight-winning month and i actually played 1 less session than January.

I ve had some stuff outside of poker lately and i am trying to let them affect me as little as possible.

Fact is there are days that my routine seems exhausting but i keep my head up and try to not let it get the best of me. Hopefully everything goes well and in 3 months i ll be ready!! Ready for a new adventure and new chapter in my life.

Family, gf and friends are THE most important things 2 me and February was a "mixed-feeling" in the latter two. I hope and i will try to make things better in March and balance it out more. Will see how it goes.

I understand this post have a somewhat "meeeh/negative" attitude. I guess it reflects my mental strength at this momment.

In other news, its game-day today and i ll get to see my buddies and have some much needed time off. Its a difficult match as we are playing #2 of the championship. We are currently ranked #3 so we got to win this to get even closer to the top. We are 5points behind the 1st team and 3points behind the 2nd, so lfg.

Cheers to all heroes out there who keep facing their demons and come alive every single time!

Peace all!

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03-01-2018 , 02:07 AM
good update GL in march hombre!
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03-01-2018 , 04:58 AM
Gracias amigo <3
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03-05-2018 , 09:02 AM
March 2018 Week #1

Sessions: 2/3

Gym: 2/3

Study hours: 2/3

As you can see i did ok-ish in all areas this week.

Although i skipped 1 poker session and 1 gym session (got a small injury playing football on Wednesday but recovered quickly. Ice 4 the win) i at least put some study in.

Watched some videos and reviewd some of my hands/friends' hands.

Been losing a few $ in the begining of the sessions, but ended up with some savers and some more on Sunday.

This month and the couple months that follow, NEED to be very strong months as i am on the final turn of this 1 year challenge (3/4 completed). I need to be very focused and try my best although i may be tired some times with my busy schedule. I write this here to remind myself that ^_^

March is also the month of my gf's birthday so i anticipate at least 1 super cool night in this month The point of No Return... (parteeeeeeyyy weee The point of No Return... )

Whats more i have plans to go on a big hip-hop event this month too. Looking forward to both these "events" ^_^

Anyway i guess this is it for now hommies.

Best of luck to all the heroes @ the online arena!

Cheerz!
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03-12-2018 , 04:41 AM
March 2018 week #2

Sessions: 0/3

Gym: 1/3

Study: 0/3

Big rant ahead.

Since there is no need to lie or anything in here, as it is pretty obvious from my numbers, this past week has been the worst week i had in a while. If you exclude May 2017 (health stuff) and August 2017 (holiday) this has been a negative record breaking week.

I had some minor health issues but mostly did not put any serious work in any aspect intentionally. I was lazy and in bad mental state.

The good thing is i am 100% aware of the above. I am willing to continue my routine this week and get back on track, although i will NOT try to replace the missed sessions.

I know i will be left behind with my month's numbers and overall goal, but i just think pushing myself too hard to recover for these 3 lost sessions will end up losing even more.

My appetite for the game is still here. I feel ok now and its not the end of the world 1 bad week. I will bounce back.

In here to post this. I feel better already. It is a shame that this week came in this timing but it is what it is. No need to whine now.

I have to and i am going to try my best in the future!

The good thing is i got to see how much free time a day has when im not out there grinding and trying to include every little thing in my day. Meeting friends, spending time with my family and my gf seemed so easy to do, time-wise. This is very important to know. That is my real longterm goal after all.

Shake it off and lfg!

Peace brothers!
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03-19-2018 , 06:59 AM
March 2018 Week#3

Sessions: 2.5/3

Gym: 2/3

Study hours: 0/3

Hey amigos,

Slowly got back in my routine and although i missed some goals (LoL study) i can say im ok with my efforts this past week.

I usually hit the gym 2 times during week and 1 more on Saturday, but this Saturday i spent most of my time with my family so i skipped it. I have 0 regrets obv as i had an AMAZING time with them! ^_^ I realized how much i missed this just now, so i would like to do it a lot more often!

Pokerwise things went well this week. I had a very solid Sunday session and also made my 2nd biggest online score which obv put me back in nice greens for the month.

I already know that this month im going to fail volume though. Im gonna miss this Sunday and the one that follows because my sister and my gf both have their birthday and i just cant w8 to celbrate! ^_^

I shall do my best though and i think it would be a nice "break" before i can give it my all on the last two months of the 1- year - challenge (April - May).

I guess thats it 4 now

I ll be back soon with some non-poker-related material The point of No Return...

Cheers all !!
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03-26-2018 , 04:02 AM
March Week #4

Sessions: 2/3

Gym: 2/3

Study: 1/3

Hey yo wasup dawgs?

Hope u guyz are all doing fine. I havent got too many things to share in today's update poker wise.

My game was -B at best (more like C) and i also dindnt run very well either, so that resulted in some blood numbers. On the other hand i manage to put my 2 sessions in (already mentioned i will be missing 3 cosecutive Sundays) so i feel ok about that.

On the other hand, i had an AMAZING time on my sis birthday yesterday. I honestly dance my heart out, drank loads (4 my standards anyway The point of No Return... ) and laughed so much my jaw started to ache at some point hehe The point of No Return...

I actually kinda missed the Sunday grind prior to the celebration but after it, there just cant be a comparison between them The point of No Return...
The good thing is that at least before the party i genuinely had poker appettite. I dont know if this is just plain routine or if i indeed wanted to just play, but at least the desire was there, which is good for my future plans ^_^

This week is also gonna be prep-heavy, as i am co-planer, along with my gf's sister, of her big party as well The point of No Return... ^_^ i have some chores of my own too, so i just hope i could fit 2 poker sessions in The point of No Return...

The only dayz possible are Tuesday - Wednesday and despite the fact that i strongly dislike (dont wanna say hate The point of No Return... ) playing 2 consecutive days and got to hit the office the morning between, i am willing to force myself to do it this "1 time" (ohh the irony using my "1 time" this way hahaahah).

At least I got my gf's gift last week so I got one "important" box "tick-ed" already The point of No Return...

Cheers boyz go crush 'em all!

Peace and love !

Last edited by Scarecrow_; 03-26-2018 at 04:11 AM.
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03-30-2018 , 01:19 AM
GG man GL this weekend
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03-30-2018 , 07:04 AM
gratz on sis getting married, gl bro
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04-03-2018 , 07:50 AM
@Walmart: Thank u m8! Always happy to see u posting in here

@nomalice: tnx a lot for your kind words and your constant support buddy Sis didnt actually get married, it was "just" her Birthday but thank you for your wishes lets put some work down till summer, shall we?


March 2018 recap:

I ll do a small recap of March for da fans (lol) and share some momments of the past month with u amigos

So for starters poker:

Low volume month due to life activities and socilizing but i am ok with it The whole point of poker life-style and the one i would like to have in years to come, is to be able to manage your time at your liking and above all spend it with the ones you love and the ones that really matter

Just for the numbers, i failed my volume goal by 48mtts and managed to play 202/250.

Results were mediocre, more on the breakeven side but its ok-ish given the volume.

The bad thing is i did almost 0 lab work and actually played bad @ some sessions. I think playing 1 session Tuesday and the other Next Monday, cant be too good for your performance.

Life stuff:

I had 2 AMAZING weekends, when i celebrated my sister's and my gf's Birthdays. I really laughed my heart out, did some nice gestures for both of them, as they are both among the people i absolutely ADORE and am 100% gratefull to have them in my life.

My sister also had one trully awfull year last year, so seeing her this happy and smiling again just made me realize even more how much i love her and how much i would like to spend time with her.

***if you ever read this (most probably not ) I really ADORE you my little SIS and I hope to grow old with you standing right next to me ***

Ok so enough with the emotional fiesta!

I have 2 months left until June and i have to go all in with my goals! I feel very pumped atm and have a huge appetite for the game so LFG!!

1 part i didnt think i would be so excited, but actually cant w8 now, is to have more time so i can study the game more!

The better you become and evolve as player, you can be less picky and selective in mtts and opponents (table selection issues) and ofcourse you can adapt more easily in new skins/formats/situations in general. This is something i ve read in acbarone's thread and i couldn't agree more! (Credits to Mr.acbarone here)

Session-day 2day and the 1st one for April. Lets start strong.

Gl to all the heroes out there! I am gratefull to be here and share all these and some more with you guys!

Much love and appreciation!

LETS GO APRIL!!
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04-03-2018 , 08:04 AM
Good thread mate, I am seeing a lot of the same sort of issues I've experienced. Good luck, staying tuned.
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04-03-2018 , 10:18 AM
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Good thread mate, I am seeing a lot of the same sort of issues I've experienced. Good luck, staying tuned.
Tnx a lot gl with ur efforts too!
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04-10-2018 , 04:04 AM
April 2018 week #1

Sessions: 1/3

Gym: 1/3 + 1 football match

Study hours: 1/3

Hey boyz,

Meeeeh week goals-wise but kinda expected.

Spend most of my time with family and friends throughout the holidays and destroyed the diet plan The point of No Return...

Now for the 3 weeks left in April, i plan to go Super Sayan Mode, both in fitness and Poker.

Lets put some bullets down

Gym + Diet

3 sessions weightlifting + 1 cardio / week

Day 1 Chest - Triceps - Abs

Day 2 Legs - Shoulders

Day 3 Back - Biceps

Day 4 Riiiiide hard (Bike / Longboard)

I plan to follow this Diet for 3 weeks.
Mr. Grammen's 2cents much appreciated now The point of No Return... (more like a general guideline as i cant provide body fat etc.)

Breakfast
5 rice cakes 2 eggs 3 whites

Snack
Fruit + yogurt

Lunch
Chicken/Fish/Burger + boiled patato + salad + 1 spoon olive oil (cant leave salt out yet sorry :S)

Before Gym/No gym
Banana / Almonds + yogurt

Dinner
Same as lunch

Late snak
Eggs + 4 rice cakes

Any recommendations in Diet/Gym routine are welcomed.

I try to keep things simple and fast as my time is super limited and i cook all/most of my meals (except maybe lunch/dinner at weekends).

Poker

My goal is:

Week #2 = 4 sessions

Week#3 = 3 sessions

Week#4 = 3 sessions

Played my 1st session yesterday so my plan for this week is to put 3 more Wed - Fri - Sun

Tonight hitting the gym to destroy dem Legs and then meet up with the homies to hopefully celebrate Liverpool's Quilification in top 4 C.L.

Vamoleoooo!!
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04-13-2018 , 03:00 AM
Holla boyz.

Been a while since i posted twice during the same week The point of No Return...

I dont have anything "special" to share, just felt like posting since it is Friday and i already hit 3x at gym this week and 2 poker sessions The point of No Return...

I feel really good about this fact and i can see my apettite for both steadily increase!

My plan is to put 2 more poker sessions, today and Sunday, plus hit the road on Saturday with the hommies for some bike adventure The point of No Return...

Really solid week so far and that feels good as my challenge is almost over and i wanna finish STRONG!

Also, Vamoooooooooo Reds!!! Liverpool final 4 Champions League once again

Although im guessing all Europe is talking about Roma's UNREAL qualification and Juventu's sick performance (despite the siiiigh ending). Was that a penalty i still cant say The point of No Return...

Hyped for the Weekend LFG boyz!

Glgl to all the Sunday heroes, Cheers!
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04-16-2018 , 01:27 AM
good work man good to read things are progressing in the right direction for you. your future sell will be very thankful
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04-16-2018 , 05:20 AM
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good work man good to read things are progressing in the right direction for you. your future sell will be very thankful
Tnx buddy, always happy to see u posting in here
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04-16-2018 , 05:47 AM
April 2018 Week#2

Sessions: 4/3

Gym: 3/3 + 1sess cardio

Study hours: 2/3

Waaaaasup guys,

Smashed this week's goals and pretty exited for this week as well!

I really tried hard this past week, in order to cover some lost ground and i can say i am very pleased with my efforts!

My volume is building up again and i was like 95% spot on with my diet and gym workouts as well!

On Saturday afternoon we had planed a bike ride with the hommies and although we had a blast, we were a bit unlucky as i got a flat tire (ffs) but fortunally on the way back home. Took us some more time and had to take the subway home, but we agreed on some consolation dinner @ an amazing czech restaurant, where i did a minor cheat-meal but not something too riduculus.

Poker has been ok-ish, didnt play my A game but definately not C (more like B-), so im kinda ok with this, if u bare in mind that i ve run really bad in sd's and managed to reduce A LOT spewing stacks due to tilt reasons.

Lmk what u think about the following hand as i found it interesting. Most other spots were ICM related so marked them and gonna run the sims on ICMizer

Hand #1

Bad thing is i have absolutely 0 info about villain. My intention with flat pre was to trap with all those shortstacks behind me. This is a play i do not usually do, but felt like a good spot in this situation.

Hero (MP): 37,078
CO: 99,715 (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 18.42, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
BTN: 23,232 (VPIP: 22.67, PFR: 16.38, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 5,917)
SB: 28,715 (VPIP: 17.80, PFR: 14.19, 3Bet Preflop: 6.50, Hands: 1,920)
BB: 10,984 (VPIP: 21.10, PFR: 19.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 111)
UTG: 38,851 (VPIP: 27.50, PFR: 20.78, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 80)
UTG+1: 38,643 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)

7 players post ante of 120, SB posts SB 600, BB posts BB 1,200

Pre Flop: (pot: 2,640) Hero has Qs Qd
fold, UTG+1 raises to 2,400, Hero calls 2,400, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop : (7,440, 2 players) Ts 7c 2s
UTG+1 bets 4,800, Hero calls 4,800

Turn : (17,040, 2 players) 9d
UTG+1 bets 11,200, Hero raises to 29,758 and is all-in, fold

Do you think flating Turn and then almost every river is better?

I tried to lock the action vs fd/pair+fd with my jam, plus i think JJ,AT even maybe KTss calls this jam, if my opponent is bad (which isnt uncommon in my stakes). His sizing and the fact he oppened utg+1 kinda made me think he ain't betting this much as an airball bluff. Cant disclose KK,AA but i guess cant get away from my hand if thats the case right??

Lmk what u guys think

Thanx all for reading and best of luck this week
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04-16-2018 , 06:30 AM
QQ are too vulnerable to slowplay pre. 3b/call all day 30bbish deep.

As played I dont see any merits in shoving turn beside him folding out AT type of hands which we obv wanna keep in his range(its one of his weakest doublebarrel valuebets). So call turn and call/shove most of the rivers. We're not so scared of K/A rivers anymore as there arent many Kx and Ax hands that would barrel like this.

cheers bro
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04-17-2018 , 02:05 AM
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QQ are too vulnerable to slowplay pre. 3b/call all day 30bbish deep.

As played I dont see any merits in shoving turn beside him folding out AT type of hands which we obv wanna keep in his range(its one of his weakest doublebarrel valuebets). So call turn and call/shove most of the rivers. We're not so scared of K/A rivers anymore as there arent many Kx and Ax hands that would barrel like this.

cheers bro
Hey brother, tnx 4 ur answer.

Yeah i aggree with 3b/call QQ pre and that is my standar play.

Just tried this out in the specific situation with ss behind me.

Thing is, with that sizing OTT i kinda wanted to protect my hand vs bad rivers A/K/spades and thought that if he actually has an fd (Axss,Kxss etc) my jam would be super growse for him. Thought of just calling obv but i would be like sick if spade/A/K/T/4card str8 hits the river and he shoves on me. My thinking in play was that if he bet say half-pot OTT i would flat more easily.

Does this thinking sounds odd?

Anyway tnx 4 ur thoughts once again m8
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04-17-2018 , 06:40 AM
Tell me what Ax/Kx hands does he play this way? You shouldn't be scared of overcards in a spot where his range is veeeeeery strong and narrow. He aint cbetting flop and turn 60-70% with AK or KQo or smt like that. I would say this is his most likely range OTT:



He might have couple more(/less) bluffs/decide to check call pair+nfd but that doesnt change the bottomline. Do you think your hand is strong enough to shove turn into this range ? On the other hand it's profitable to call as we need around 30% equity to call turn bet.

Beside it seems like we're turning queens into a bluff ott, there is also question of genocide vs our calling range.

I would call turn and call all rivers except A,8 and spade
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04-17-2018 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by nomalice
Tell me what Ax/Kx hands does he play this way? You shouldn't be scared of overcards in a spot where his range is veeeeeery strong and narrow. He aint cbetting flop and turn 60-70% with AK or KQo or smt like that. I would say this is his most likely range OTT:



He might have couple more(/less) bluffs/decide to check call pair+nfd but that doesnt change the bottomline. Do you think your hand is strong enough to shove turn into this range ? On the other hand it's profitable to call as we need around 30% equity to call turn bet.

Beside it seems like we're turning queens into a bluff ott, there is also question of genocide vs our calling range.

I would call turn and call all rivers except A,8 and spade
First of all BIG THANK YOU for taking the time to run this and provide me the equity results for his probable range.

I mean i honestly appreciate this and the way u explain ur thought process helps me VERY VERY much with mine, cauz in most cases i think as you and deep down I know what line is best, but double guess myself.

You help me be more confident in my theoritical background and analysis and BIG tnx for that.

Indeed the above range seems very reasonable, although bare in mind that he might be a very bad villain that will also double barrel ATo KTo and call it off!

Conclusive though, i have no doubt that best play is call turn, call/shove river which was my actual thinking in the 1st place and the reason why i posted the hand.

Cheers bro, appreciate it once again!
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