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11-10-2017 , 01:49 PM
Hi,

im starting my PLO 1000€ to 10.000€ PLO Micro Stakes Challenge. I am a decent winning midstakes PLO regular for a long time now. I want to prove that micro stakes plo is still beatable even with the high rake and i want to see how long it takes to get to a 10k roll nowadays because i havent been playing micros for a long time. I will be playing on Microgaming until i hit 100PLO and then switch to party. My BRM will be flexible but in general i will move up once i have 50BI for the next stake and will move down if im below 40 BI for the stake that im currently playing. You can expect at least one update per week about my challenge with some graphs and/or hands i played.

I already played 1 session:
Starting bankroll: 1.000€
Current bankroll: 1.201€
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11-10-2017 , 05:14 PM
Followed, looking to get into PLO and would be fun and knowledgeable watching you go through with this challenge. Good luck!

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11-11-2017 , 07:25 AM
Thanks for following. Pretty **** second session
Current Bankroll is now at: 1107€ Nothing special just ran pretty bad.

Graph of 2nd session:
https://ibb.co/cuTBcb
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11-19-2017 , 09:40 AM
Update: Have been running extremely bad. Bankroll is now at 890€ and was all the way down to 820€. Still enough to not have to drop down. I think the competition is very soft so its just a matter of time until this **** turns around. Im not gonna post any hands this week bc i dont want this thread to become my bad beat story thread .
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11-19-2017 , 09:49 AM





I usually never have negative showdown winnings. Usually my SD winnings are very positive and then my redline is around breakeven or slightly positive. Running like **** in 3b pots and also getting coolered a bunch. Gonna keep grinding hard bc the games are really soft imo
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11-19-2017 , 11:30 AM
Also going to count all bonuses/rb for this challenge. Today i am running better so far.
Current BR: 980€
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11-19-2017 , 03:25 PM
You should be able to do this pretty easily imo.
Good luck!
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11-19-2017 , 05:11 PM
How many days you estimate you will need for finishing the challenge?

After 23 days Jnandez has 2850$ although he started at pl20.

It woulD be nice to see some hands.

Anyway GL!
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11-20-2017 , 06:56 AM
Difficult to say. Doing my PhD at the university right now so im not full time. I would guess between 3 and 6 months.
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11-20-2017 , 07:07 AM
subbed,
GL!!
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11-20-2017 , 12:45 PM
gl
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11-21-2017 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sauhund
You should be able to do this pretty easily imo.
Good luck!
Thanks. I hope it wont take too long.
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11-22-2017 , 12:26 PM
Just fk brm and you´ll be there in a week hehe
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11-22-2017 , 07:22 PM
First Session since the first session i played in the challenge where i didnt run like total trash:



Bankroll is at 1.020€

Im actually really happy with the current standing of the bankroll given how awful i have been running so far. In tougher games i would have probably already had to drop down to 10plo.

Last edited by hackprotech; 11-22-2017 at 07:34 PM.
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11-23-2017 , 07:12 AM
seems interesting, GL!
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11-23-2017 , 06:55 PM
What's your screen name?

Also, I really don't know why players who crush higher limits want to prove that the micro's are beatable in today's climate. It's stupid because, it's pointless. Just because Ronaldo can score 5 goals on a saturday afternoon with an amateur football club does not mean that all amateur football players that play in that league can score 5 goals.

There's a massive skill gap between YOU (and all other pro's that do this challenge) and all the amateur players/ wannabe plo10/20/50 grinders.

It's that skill level that's the difference between YOU moving up in stakes and them NOT moving up in stakes.

It's a fact that literally 99% of players at these levels are losing/break even.

What do you achieve once you hit your goal. You can say it's beatable FOR YOU, BUT you still can't say it's beatable for all amateur/micro grinders, sadly for them it will still be unbeatable.
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11-23-2017 , 07:03 PM
Duh.
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11-24-2017 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Jackal21
What's your screen name?

Also, I really don't know why players who crush higher limits want to prove that the micro's are beatable in today's climate. It's stupid because, it's pointless. Just because Ronaldo can score 5 goals on a saturday afternoon with an amateur football club does not mean that all amateur football players that play in that league can score 5 goals.

There's a massive skill gap between YOU (and all other pro's that do this challenge) and all the amateur players/ wannabe plo10/20/50 grinders.
It's a fact that literally 99% of players at these levels are losing/break even.

What do you achieve once you hit your goal. You can say it's beatable FOR YOU, BUT you still can't say it's beatable for all amateur/micro grinders, sadly for them it will still be unbeatable.
First of all there s no way that 99% of players at any stake are losing.

Usually about 70% at Any stake are losing,doesn`t matter is it micro or

high stakes.Second this is more psychological challenge.

Ofc he can beat micros,but playing limits that hardly matter for you for

long period of time is not easy.

What about Doug Polk challenge?He can beat some of the best nl players

in the world,played agaist super computer and he has big problems

beating micros in his challenge.Somebody may assume he would finish

challenge very quickly but after 30 days of playing he is closer to busto

than to succeed.
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11-24-2017 , 02:13 PM
im starting my PLO 1000€ to 10.000€ PLO Micro Stakes Challenge. I am a decent winning midstakes PLO regular for a long time now. I want to prove that micro stakes plo is still beatable even with the high rake

This is from OP post. He wants to PROVE that micro stakes is beatable despite the high rake.

My gripe is that it PROVES NOTHING because the proof he provides by beating the micros does not take his SKILL into account vs all the other players that can't beat the micros.

This is not rocket science guys but these challenges prove nothing at all, other than that a PRO can beat the high rake micros!

I mean even look at JNandez, he is having a hard time getting out of plo50 and he hasn't even gone a major downswing yet, in fact I'd consider him running pretty good so far. Just goes to show you that the rake plays a huge factor at these stakes and for everybody that is not a pro who crushes PLO200+, well they have frankly no shot at all of beating the micros.

Another player tried it as well Apostol I think his name was, mid high stakes player, he quit his challenge, but he did manage to beat the micros for 1 month (lol), he quickly stopped after that, proving nothing at all really.

So if even Pro's have difficulty doing it with the super high rake, then how on Earth are players that actually play that level suppose to do it?

You want them to take inspiration from this challenge, when OP actually does it?

Last edited by The_Jackal21; 11-24-2017 at 02:19 PM.
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11-24-2017 , 04:42 PM
can we calm down here? I didn´t want to upset anyone. Just doing my thing here.
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11-25-2017 , 05:45 PM
gl, will follow
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12-03-2017 , 09:39 PM
What`s the bankroll status?Aany interesting thoughts about player pool?
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12-03-2017 , 09:54 PM
See you at the 10k mark!! Dont run lucky on me tho!!

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12-04-2017 , 12:01 AM
Why do you want to prove something that has been proven before by apo5tol aka shuller_a1t. And he started with PLO2.

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/2ujHFyV...1%82%D1%8C%201




https://cloud.mail.ru/public/3xVcD1D...1%82%D1%8C%202


PLO micros and rake are beatable but ofc only by pro players. He beat zoom where players are complaining about the difficulty. Anyway i wish you GL ! you have this
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12-10-2017 , 12:45 PM
Hey guys,

sorry for the long time without update. Haven´t been getting that much volume in bc of lots of work at my other job. Have been running like absolute **** this week. Since i started playing the challenge i have been running like the worst i have been running in years.



Im running so awful in showdown winnings. Like i previously mentioned my blue line is always the highest by far. Gonna keep grinding. As to my thoughts on the player pool. Despite running like **** im up big on every single reg that plays at these stakes (i know small samplesize etc.).

General adjustments vs. the regs / environment:

-Defend a little tighter on the BB becuase of high rake. I think around 50% vpip on the BB is ideal for these stakes
-In general peoples beting ranges on the flop and on later streets are very strong aka they are not balanced at all.
-Peoples UTG PFR ranges are really really tight. So 3beting early position raisers should be done very carefully.
-Play looser PFR on the button because of low 3beting % from the nitregs
-Adjust bet sizing more towards strength of opponents hands / be less balanced than vs. good regs

all these adjustments are vs. the 20 plo regs and not fishies

Last edited by hackprotech; 12-10-2017 at 12:51 PM.
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