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10-17-2018 , 11:12 PM
Pads, no response? This is your thread I think?
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10-18-2018 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by getmeoffcompletely
The most lol worthy part is him writing up a big pile of nonsense about how stables are keeping the guarantees up and how they're somehow beneficial for poker lmao.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...fHwzvG3d8/edit

Delusional claims aside, I can't really fault pads for looking out for himself and his partners and making as much money as possible through any means possible. The fault really lies with the poker sites for putting up with this BS for so long, to the point where you now have organized poker grind houses where God forbid you ever end up in a high equity spot vs one of these guys and you end up playing 1 vs 20.

That not only are poker sites tolerating this, but Party is actually endorsing him, that just blows my mind. Although when their site is bot central I guess one can't expect much.
My thoughts exactly.
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10-18-2018 , 12:55 PM
10-18-2018 , 06:10 PM
Well these players are playing recklessly and they increase their opponents ev in the tournament. Basically Partypoker is doing a good deed. You can view them as one of the biggest humanitarian organizations
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10-19-2018 , 05:34 AM
Sad what kind of place 2p2 has come to. Very, very sad.
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10-19-2018 , 05:39 AM
Whilst BitB might be completely above board (fwiw I believe you when you say this) do you not think it's really bad that BRS players are given privileges the general population aren't?

Eg: converting PPL tickets to cash where others can't do this.
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10-19-2018 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by IHaveThreePair
Ever thought about going into eSports, Pads?

Crazy big opportunities there right now - big prize money and investments being thrown at it across the board. The biggest eSports 'athletes' are getting as much social interraction as the biggest global sports stars right now and it's only going to grow.

BitB seems like a great fit for that industry...
Yes actually, although far from it atm, maybe next year.

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Originally Posted by gamboneee
pads, would you ever consider moving across the pond for SOCCER? assuming the rest of your business can be done from here primarily.
I don't think so, I like the aggressiveness and dynamics of British football.

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Originally Posted by Kelvis
How has the stable been killing the games lately?
Seriously is this just your life going round 2p2 complaining about stables 24/7, I just can't understand it at all, surely there must be something better to do? I literally just can't understand it.

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Originally Posted by IHaveThreePair
Saw on the BitB insta that you guys just started grinding out of a office with a load of horses grinding from there.

How is that going? I've always wondered how sites view that kind of thing when talking about grind houses etc but obviously trhis is on another scale.
No we don't grind from an office, we went for a 5 day piss up and on the last day played some poker before flying home. I actually don't think theres a single bitB player who lives with another one, maybe there is one somewhere. I wouldn't want people to play in an office together, I am 100% about being silent and in Zen when grinding, playing in an office as your grind set up would be hell to me personally.

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Originally Posted by 9tablingnit
I was thinking the same. Are they allowed to play in the same games?
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
+1.

I for certainly wouldn't want to sit on a same multi-seat satellite with a house full of horses regging to same satellite.
As you know, nobody in bitB is playing these satellites you talk about, but as usual got to chime in. Our player make money from winning at the tables, not leaderboards/sats/rakeback etc

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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
Dont worry poker players are honest. I dont think they will give advice while playing
I think for the whole time nobody said a single word, they know how much european and I hate that and I don't think they'd dare We spoke at breaks, just like you speak on breaks on Skype.

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Originally Posted by CoolTimer
I've yet to meet a group of people more honest than poker players, so this is fine.
You should come and meet our guys, most loyal/honest group of guys I've met for sure.


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Originally Posted by getmeoffcompletely
The most lol worthy part is him writing up a big pile of nonsense about how stables are keeping the guarantees up and how they're somehow beneficial for poker lmao.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...fHwzvG3d8/edit

Delusional claims aside, I can't really fault pads for looking out for himself and his partners and making as much money as possible through any means possible. The fault really lies with the poker sites for putting up with this BS for so long, to the point where you now have organized poker grind houses where God forbid you ever end up in a high equity spot vs one of these guys and you end up playing 1 vs 20.

That not only are poker sites tolerating this, but Party is actually endorsing him, that just blows my mind. Although when their site is bot central I guess one can't expect much.
You read the post and still call it an organised grind house? We for sure are not doing this to make as much money as possible lol, we would be doing something else for sure if that was the case and very likely nothing to do with poker. Playing 1 vs 20? How do you think this actually works? There is 30 second time bank, you think he's getting 1.5 seconds of info from 20 guys in a row and taking it all in and then acting. Our guys spend thousands of hours studying for these kind of spots, they 1) Don't want, 2) Don't need help playing vs people.

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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
Well negreanu said more rake is better. Pads is saying more regs are better. I think both stand true. Ideally we need only regs with the highest rake possible
More regs are better, depending on the reg. Poker stables have not taken money out of the poker eco system. Rake has, simple.


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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
Nice post. Good that the discussion has focussed around stables and how they are absolutely for an already fragile ecosystem Of course, this takes nothing away from Pads providing us with great threads and a ton of insight.
Poker stables have not taken money out of the poker eco system.

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Originally Posted by RE-DOUGH
Pads, no response? This is your thread I think?
I'm sorry I'm not on 2p2 every day replying to threads. I used to be before it was like this, toxic, not I choose to spend my time elsewhere like 99% of people did on this forum, I'm not sure if theres a single high stakes winner still posting regularly here, there used to be hundreds and hundreds, it says a lot.


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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Shock, shock Kelvis is back with more negativity about stables, but yes I did reply there ty.


Peace all <3
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10-19-2018 , 05:53 AM
If you think 2+2 is so toxic you're welcome to leave permanently.
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10-19-2018 , 06:01 AM
OK sure, I will do. You've got one down, good luck getting the rest Mr Stable police. I'm sorry you weren't accepted.
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10-19-2018 , 06:08 AM
Good news.
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10-19-2018 , 11:00 AM
if your stable doesnt take any money out of the poker ecosystem you are doing a very poor job

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i am not against stables, i actually encourage players to join one if they want to improve and have better winrate hence take more money out of the ecosystem, i just find 80% of your statements

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10-19-2018 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
If you think 2+2 is so toxic you're welcome to leave permanently.
Wind your ****ing neck in. You act as if you speak for the majority. Also just lol at you saying over and over it was a grindhouse when it clearly wasn't.

Instead of pads leaving 2p2 how about you just leave this thread to those that follow it?
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10-19-2018 , 12:29 PM
Quote me on saying it's a grindhouse, over and over.
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10-21-2018 , 06:03 AM
If your stable doesnt take money out of the ecosystem.....do you only have loosing horses?
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10-21-2018 , 10:11 PM
late to the discussion, but there are couple things i want to say smth about

( I )
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1) the problem i find with people/horses/coaches playing(grinding)(*) together imo is that u can never know, in rare high eq spots on huge field FT MTT (like scoop/wcoop/powerfest/SM/ etc) who is actually clicking btns/playing behind some random account/screen name=>GHOSTING

2) it is illusion(and naive) to think and believe that those players that grind together, talk strategy, play similar games (buy ins/type), swap % etc don't share their database/reads/stats/exploits they have on other players/regs

(*)i think that chances one player to get advice/tip/exploit from some other player (and his account to be ghosted in reality) when two or more players are in same room playing together is much much higher, compared to chances one account to be ghosted when two or more players are talking strategy on skype/mesinger/discord etc in real time while playing, because is easier and faster to just take control over mouse and click vs asking questions and explaining what to do and why,
also when you are in the same room with some one in real time while playing you are following more closely the action and table dynamic and you can give direction/advises before even asked


SOLUTION:
imo poker sides should allow players to change their screen names like 4x times a year, and that will be fair game imo for all because u actuality will never know who is playing behind certain screen name


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I think the target market for growth of internet poker should be people in their 40-60 years of age (not 18-25 broke college students/degenerics)
Why? because people that are 40-60 years old
- they stay at home and dont go out very often (bars/night clubs/diners etc)
- they have money and time that can spend on playing skill&luck based game from their home vs other people
- they dont have strength to compete in some sports that need a lot of stamina, but they can sit home fire poker cash game, SNG or MTT and compete vs other people
etc etc
So the point i want to make is that you (we) are not attracting this kind of people with posting those kind of things on net, imo you are scaring them off


Last edited by Re8uZ; 10-21-2018 at 10:16 PM.
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10-22-2018 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Re8uZ
people that are 40-60 years old
- they stay at home and dont go out very often (bars/night clubs/diners etc)
- they have money and time that can spend on playing skill&luck based game from their home vs other people
- they dont have strength to compete in some sports that need a lot of stamina, but they can sit home fire poker cash game, SNG or MTT and compete vs other people
etc etc
Jesus I'm 24 and I think all points from the above are true for me :O
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10-22-2018 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Yes actually, although far from it atm, maybe next year.
Good to hear - be interesting to see what you're going into.

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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
No we don't grind from an office, we went for a 5 day piss up and on the last day played some poker before flying home. I actually don't think theres a single bitB player who lives with another one, maybe there is one somewhere. I wouldn't want people to play in an office together, I am 100% about being silent and in Zen when grinding, playing in an office as your grind set up would be hell to me personally.
Got ya - didn't mean for this thread to turn to a ****show because of that post.
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10-23-2018 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by IHaveThreePair
Got ya - didn't mean for this thread to turn to a ****show because of that post.
Course you didnt sweetheart
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10-23-2018 , 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Megloooo
Course you didnt sweetheart
Mhmm, ok. Literally have no idea what the rules are on having multiple people grind from the same location, so excuse me for asking.
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10-23-2018 , 08:07 AM
It's so obvious that no one can make money by himself unless they create an organized crime group that operates from a rendezvous.
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04-14-2019 , 12:48 PM
Hey brother!
Greetings from Peru!
I just wanted to thank you for how much I learned about mtts in all these years in your blog!
I was not part of your stable or interested in it
I just wanted you to remember that you did a great job for poker, and for people like me, who try to keep climbing levels on their own.
I am about to play the sunday million 10M GTD and a PKO $ 320 in party, very excited!

Jorge
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04-14-2019 , 03:23 PM
nice bump, thread inactive for so long.
i'll take this ocassion to thank pads for pio of that river TJ negranu fold vs fish, what a donk negranu is.
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04-14-2019 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GeneralTsao
nice bump, thread inactive for so long.
Agree. Too bad a troll had to chase away from 2 + 2
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05-17-2019 , 01:35 PM
How is it going? Pads massive over EV run finally over? No cash in Scoop or KO Series? Already 100k stuck?
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05-17-2019 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MrFabulous
How is it going? Pads massive over EV run finally over? No cash in Scoop or KO Series? Already 100k stuck?
He's had two KO series wins and at least a few top 20 scoop finishes though?
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