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07-26-2018 , 03:57 PM
Powerfest was announced today and is only 5 weeks away! To celebrate it I'm giving free coaching to two people to help prepare! Knock me out or win this tournament tomorrow and you win, top 45 also win prizes and prob only 46 runners! GO to LIVE EVENTS
pw: Leonardgeordie

If somebody from 2p2 wins and doesn't want coaching, I'll donate $500 to their chosen charity.
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07-27-2018 , 02:10 AM
Any footie updates? Or health progress updates?
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08-25-2018 , 12:51 PM
whats happened to this blog ? Used to love reading the updates.
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08-27-2018 , 08:45 PM
Too busy making the 50$ mtters equal skilled to shr regs
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09-17-2018 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Whats uppppppp

SCOOP bets I ended up 2.5k total there was lots of HU bets, some other team bets, Girafganger, FU15 etc that was a relief!

2 days before Vegas i decided to sack it off and come to Russia for the world cup. Vegas had so many exciting tournaments, 10k 6m, 5k 6m, main event, 50k, 1m one drop, 25ks and 10ks every day in Aria etc, but I just really love football and this is once in a lifetime opportunity.

Been here for a while now, Moscow easily top 3 favourite cities i've ever been to, very very very likely its number 1 and somewhere I would love to live. The propaganda against Russian people and lots of small things in the press has made me reconsider anything i've ever read in the press before! Literally amazing city, if you can still come out for the semi final and the final do it!

I haven't missed the poker side at all, really weird, I've started to question my whole poker future, what do I want from it? What do I want to invest in it?

I spend sooooo much time studying poker and dedicating myself to it, but the difference in ev from me studying a lot to studying a tiny bit won't actually be that high in reality because of volume of games I play. I don't like the SHR scene anymore, since those 3 400k banks last year i think I played 5 high roller tournaments, around breakeven or w/e, I just don't really see the appeal in them as much anymore. I find them very cliquey, god knows if anything dodgy is going on and the edges of course aren't going to be huge. If I play a $25k like a 7.5k for bankroll management and have a 20% roi (thats fkn huge!) i make $1500 which is of course good, but there travelling, being away from things, health etc and if i want to make $1500 I can just stay online and do it instead, I don't see the appeal at all really. Sure you can go to a nice place and visit, but you can do that anyway lol and actually see the place.

I'm 100% skipping Barcelona, have no drive at all to go and play that series, I know there is some cool events and stuff there, 5k main, 10k hr, I just don't have strong urge/desire to go. Weird!

Just want to stay home, be with family, be healthy, play lots of football and start transitioning into some other kind of business. I'm really driven by success, not financial success, but just being successful, achieving things, I'm not sure what would be really motivating to achieve anymore in poker. I got to n1 in pocket fives, won scoops/wcoops etc, I thought that going live and doing that would be the "success path" that would keep motivating me, but thats completely out of the window now. I don't really see cash games/ spins or other games as being something that will drive me. I don't know really, kind of a weird situation.

Anybody been similar/similar now?
Since this message, I locked myself in house, didnt see any friends once and dedicated myself to poker, I was spending insane amount of time dedicated to studying and getting better and better and it was very obsessive, and I was really built up to WCOOP/Powerfest where I was very excited.

I had some very good times in the last two weeks, won two Powerfests for $120k, cashed the first 6 5ks on party and just felt great. Mid way through the series Stars on Tuesday/Thursday where they had made it "half price" and taken away the high buy ins in replacement for $530s very last second added a $5k 20 runner gte (min 10 entrants too) and all the regs just went and played. It made me so sad/sick to see, people say "what are you complaining about"? They took away something from regs (a really nice big gte high buy in) got complaints for weeks, then added it on the day with these ****ty guarantees etc as a "look what we are giving you" and all the regs chase their ev. It really made me so sad that day and since then I've looked at poker in completely different way, if people are going to accept that kind of stuff then they will just keep taking away and then giving tiny back, they did it with payouts, rakeback etc, I don't want to make a big deal about it because I'm ambassador for another site, but I will either never play there again, or have super reduced volume there. I was ALWAYS very open that I wanted Stars to do well, a partypoker monopoly isn't GTO, there needs to be 3/4 really active/successful sites. They did the same again 2 days later (both PSKO btw...) and people go reg again, they just create a raketrap and regs snap accept it. So I went from being super happy/optimistic/grinding huge content every day to thinking wow what a ****ed up industry. This really isn't a stars vs party thing, its actually good for party if stars keep doing that stuff, as somebody who genuinely cared about this industry for so long it was extremely sad thing to see, it was like I was watching some experiment or something. Crazy!


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Originally Posted by meale
Isn't BitB enough of a business as it is? Maybe play less volume and focus on that for a while? Kind of interesting to hear how you're somewhat over it at the moment at the same time as everyone is hyped up due to WSOP. Do you not have any bracelet aspirations or anything like this?

At the end of the day though, just do whatever you feel like. You're in a unique position to be able to do pretty much just that, just make sure whatever it is you are doing you actually want to be doing.
I don't care at all about live accolades/trophies/bracelets etc. I really wanted to you know go the SHR route and think it would be better for my skill set, but after winning $1m+ in that 7 days and the three trophies, I really didn't have that amazing feeling, it was more of a relief, I just wanted everybody to know I was good at live mtts like I knew I was, it didn't prove anything really and I shouldn't care what others think. I genuinely couldnt care less if you think I'm **** or the best in an MTT, I think I have good understanding of my place in the food chain and I'm very OK with it, I posted something like some rankings or something and I made a cavet "I didn't consider including myself, euro, elmerixx in here" then some pros were like "yeah well you shouldnt you guys are nowhere near" and I really just didnt care at all. It was so important for me to be accepted for so long, I knew I was good and just wanted others to think the same, but I realise now they aren't educated at all to make a decision on who is good or isn't good, if somebody thinks I'm good it doesn't matter either since they have no metric/background to make that decision.

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Completely off topic but your writing in the last post you made reads incredibly like the way Donald trump gives speeches :/

As your past threads have shown, making these “big decisions” doesn’t actually lead to anything long term for you so my advice would be - especially as you are financially and otherwise fairly satisfied - focus on what is fun for you in the moment and do that to the fullest. Bc in a few months time you ll prob change your mind anyway
I think almost all my thoughts on wanting me to do x, y, z have been very beneficial, thinking about my motivations, documenting them, going over them and thinking again has been great way to push through very tough profession, I'm more than fine if I change my mind in 6 months on something, got to keep trusting yourself and pushing yourself if you don't want to go sidewards, **** going side-wards and accepting mediocrity.

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Originally Posted by nolongeravailable
Buy an English lower league side already. How much budget do you think you'd need a season for a national league north/south team? 100k max? Go into partnership with a mix of experience and money and mitigate the risk.
Yes, eventually this would be great eventually, definitely something I want to do, I have a friend who used to own a football team too (Rob Yong!) so would ask for some advice there.

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Pads - ever consider getting into Sports Analytics/Data as a stepping stone to coaching?

I guess combining your interest in new businesses, with knowledge of HUDs, stats, etc., to develop some sort of program/methodology that could be used by soccer clubs. THere must be a big cross over in skills from top end poker...

I mean you even your 2p2 name "OurSurveySays" evidences a dedication to a data driven approach ...
Yeah we have to do insane amount of data driven stuff, I do lot of unconventional data stuff people would think was crazy so wont say about that, but I really enjoy being around data, however not too interested in spending too much time doing that regarding football.


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Any footie updates? Or health progress updates?
I play for a competitive 5aside team now in London, loving that. Im finding it extremely hard finding a team to just let me manage them of course. Like I don't know anybody in London, if I was in North East it would be super east, but have no idea about the process of finding something in London, don't really know where to start. Tough one.

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whats happened to this blog ? Used to love reading the updates.
Sorry. Literally ridic busy, but like to stop by ever now and then and catch up.
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09-18-2018 , 06:56 AM
Lurker here glad to see you’re still posting. If you’re making six figures a yr and not killing yourself I don’t see why you’d abandon the game? You’re an elite poker talent, that’s not just going to transfer over to a different field. If it’s too much work and you don’t need the money at all, just retire, and work on being happy... become a maintenace alcoholic or a pimp.
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09-18-2018 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nolongeravailable
Buy an English lower league side already. How much budget do you think you'd need a season for a national league north/south team? 100k max? Go into partnership with a mix of experience and money and mitigate the risk.
I think players wages alone would be around 150k in those two leagues. Certainly more than 100k .
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09-18-2018 , 12:29 PM
About the whole Stars thing - you can't really make these accusations and compare it to Party like Party was god knows how good to us. They made some good changes, sure, but take botting for example. It's rampant on Party and they just seem to not give a S.H.I.T. Hand history parsers are another example. I'm not ever gonna care about rake being a few percentage points lower if I know I'm up againt a bunch of bots. I know you mean well, I'm trying to give an honest feedback, even if it's a bit harsh.
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09-18-2018 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hoodboy
About the whole Stars thing - you can't really make these accusations and compare it to Party like Party was god knows how good to us. They made some good changes, sure, but take botting for example. It's rampant on Party and they just seem to not give a S.H.I.T. Hand history parsers are another example. I'm not ever gonna care about rake being a few percentage points lower if I know I'm up againt a bunch of bots. I know you mean well, I'm trying to give an honest feedback, even if it's a bit harsh.
This and overall security lapses with Party is pretty much major problem.

I also remember lots of cases where Party has added tournaments from the blue, like that meek 2,6k$ 2 re-entry 100$ event @ Sunday which was added to the schedule from the blue 1-2 hours before start despite leaderboard running. So blaming PokerStars from doing that once while doing same on the other site constantly is a pure hypocrisy. Party has a lot to catch on basic things if they ever want to beat even current PokerStars (only live events seem to have major long-term durable success, mostly due to PokerStars major shortcomings while PartyPoker has invested heavily there and got many credible casinos and tournament serieses in).
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09-18-2018 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Mid way through the series Stars on Tuesday/Thursday where they had made it "half price" and taken away the high buy ins in replacement for $530s very last second added a $5k 20 runner gte (min 10 entrants too) and all the regs just went and played. It made me so sad/sick to see, people say "what are you complaining about"? They took away something from regs (a really nice big gte high buy in) got complaints for weeks, then added it on the day with these ****ty guarantees etc as a "look what we are giving you" and all the regs chase their ev. It really made me so sad that day and since then I've looked at poker in completely different way, if people are going to accept that kind of stuff then they will just keep taking away and then giving tiny back, they did it with payouts, rakeback etc, I don't want to make a big deal about it because I'm ambassador for another site, but I will either never play there again, or have super reduced volume there. I was ALWAYS very open that I wanted Stars to do well, a partypoker monopoly isn't GTO, there needs to be 3/4 really active/successful sites. They did the same again 2 days later (both PSKO btw...) and people go reg again, they just create a raketrap and regs snap accept it. So I went from being super happy/optimistic/grinding huge content every day to thinking wow what a ****ed up industry. This really isn't a stars vs party thing, its actually good for party if stars keep doing that stuff, as somebody who genuinely cared about this industry for so long it was extremely sad thing to see, it was like I was watching some experiment or something. Crazy!
seriously pads, just wow, what ev, stables ev or invidual grinder ev??
imo more then 70% of regs that are firing 1k are stuck in make up playing stacked/swapped big % etc, etc, etc, and if they are not stuck in make up they are in reality playing like 215$ mtt but firing 1k+ stacker/backer/buyers money

why you think ST went from ~500k every tuesday like 2-3 years ago to 150-200k this days??? where are regs to chase EV if there is EV in 1k+??? why u think ST is dying?? i tell you what i think, i think is dying because 1k buy in is not sustainable for most normal regs this days (obv payouts etc have efects too), so if you are not ego driven, stuck in make up, stacked grinder that is not playing his own money why would you put 1k of your own money and play with super tough small field plyers like 100-200 entries(where is obv that lot of villains are swaping %/EV and playing same stables etc etc) instead of playing 9x109 or 4x215 like min super tesday, sunday milion,batle royale etc etc?? where do regs get more EV and obv less variance

you are comparing everything with 530$+ histakes MTTS on party that are always overlaying + there are small fields playing them, fields where there are couple of teams/stables of players fighting each others with shared bankrolls and shared ev + there are multiple reentries (will see how often they will run and how big they will get where there will be no more overlays)
its just so absurd imo what you are comparing and talking about i think you are really out of touch with reality here

imo highstakes MTT market will be always there for dick waving,regs battles,getting out of make up, shot taking thing estc but that is not imo the market that is attracts new players to join game and puting fressh money into poker economy... i almost never hear rec that wants to win WCOOP main or SCOOP MAIN... first thing they are saying about buy ins for those events are that is **** lot of money (5k/10k) and they will never play them out of their pocket, but they are always ok to put 215$ or 530$ to chase dream

so imo 33$-215$ solid GTD big FT/first place prizes are what is bringing new players/fresh money into game and that is where every MTT reg EV is coming from (mediocre regs will win money in those fields and think they are good and will start playing highstakes MTTs and will bring EV to end bosses etc etc circle of life)
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09-18-2018 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
This and overall security lapses with Party is pretty much major problem.

I also remember lots of cases where Party has added tournaments from the blue, like that meek 2,6k$ 2 re-entry 100$ event @ Sunday which was added to the schedule from the blue 1-2 hours before start despite leaderboard running. So blaming PokerStars from doing that once while doing same on the other site constantly is a pure hypocrisy. Party has a lot to catch on basic things if they ever want to beat even current PokerStars (only live events seem to have major long-term durable success, mostly due to PokerStars major shortcomings while PartyPoker has invested heavily there and got many credible casinos and tournament serieses in).
What do you think are the shortcomings in Pokerstars live tournaments?
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09-18-2018 , 06:29 PM
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What do you think are the shortcomings in Pokerstars live tournaments?
Pretty off-topic, but for last few ones outside of overall diminishing PokerStars (MTT / satellite) offering I would name failure of rebranding EPT -> PokerStars Championships -> back and failing to offer any non-NLH / PLO events @ EPT Barcelona + overall diminshing support from PokerStars themselves to live tournaments as primary factors. Also they don't nowadays seem to have low buy-in events easy for newbies to join @ their festivals. They've also lost lots of know-how with many employees leaving along the way.

Also the fact that most sites have brought their own live tournament serieses down (some alongside with sites / networks coming down like Entraction with EMOP, Ongame with Grand Live, PKR live tournaments etc.) has made it easier for PartyPoker to get along and secure full co-operation with many live casinos.
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09-19-2018 , 04:47 AM
Ever thought about going into eSports, Pads?

Crazy big opportunities there right now - big prize money and investments being thrown at it across the board. The biggest eSports 'athletes' are getting as much social interraction as the biggest global sports stars right now and it's only going to grow.

BitB seems like a great fit for that industry...
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09-22-2018 , 03:26 AM
pads, would you ever consider moving across the pond for SOCCER? assuming the rest of your business can be done from here primarily.
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10-11-2018 , 02:13 PM
How has the stable been killing the games lately?
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10-15-2018 , 05:53 AM
Saw on the BitB insta that you guys just started grinding out of a office with a load of horses grinding from there.

How is that going? I've always wondered how sites view that kind of thing when talking about grind houses etc but obviously trhis is on another scale.
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10-15-2018 , 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by IHaveThreePair
Saw on the BitB insta that you guys just started grinding out of a office with a load of horses grinding from there.

How is that going? I've always wondered how sites view that kind of thing when talking about grind houses etc but obviously trhis is on another scale.
I was thinking the same. Are they allowed to play in the same games?
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10-15-2018 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 9tablingnit
I was thinking the same. Are they allowed to play in the same games?
+1.

I for certainly wouldn't want to sit on a same multi-seat satellite with a house full of horses regging to same satellite.
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10-15-2018 , 01:08 PM
Dont worry poker players are honest. I dont think they will give advice while playing
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10-16-2018 , 04:51 AM
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Dont worry poker players are honest. I dont think they will give advice while playing
I've yet to meet a group of people more honest than poker players, so this is fine.
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10-16-2018 , 05:47 AM
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10-17-2018 , 07:16 AM
The most lol worthy part is him writing up a big pile of nonsense about how stables are keeping the guarantees up and how they're somehow beneficial for poker lmao.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...fHwzvG3d8/edit

Delusional claims aside, I can't really fault pads for looking out for himself and his partners and making as much money as possible through any means possible. The fault really lies with the poker sites for putting up with this BS for so long, to the point where you now have organized poker grind houses where God forbid you ever end up in a high equity spot vs one of these guys and you end up playing 1 vs 20.

That not only are poker sites tolerating this, but Party is actually endorsing him, that just blows my mind. Although when their site is bot central I guess one can't expect much.
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10-17-2018 , 07:28 PM
Well negreanu said more rake is better. Pads is saying more regs are better. I think both stand true. Ideally we need only regs with the highest rake possible
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10-17-2018 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by getmeoffcompletely
That not only are poker sites tolerating this, but Party is actually endorsing him, that just blows my mind.
Very true.
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10-17-2018 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by getmeoffcompletely
The most lol worthy part is him writing up a big pile of nonsense about how stables are keeping the guarantees up and how they're somehow beneficial for poker lmao.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...fHwzvG3d8/edit

Delusional claims aside, I can't really fault pads for looking out for himself and his partners and making as much money as possible through any means possible. The fault really lies with the poker sites for putting up with this BS for so long, to the point where you now have organized poker grind houses where God forbid you ever end up in a high equity spot vs one of these guys and you end up playing 1 vs 20.

That not only are poker sites tolerating this, but Party is actually endorsing him, that just blows my mind. Although when their site is bot central I guess one can't expect much.
Nice post. Good that the discussion has focussed around stables and how they are absolutely for an already fragile ecosystem Of course, this takes nothing away from Pads providing us with great threads and a ton of insight.
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