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04-02-2016 , 02:37 PM
I'm gonna try to start posting interesting hands. I still don't have a HH generator so I gotta type everything out. Also I play so much that their Hand history doesn't show all my hands so I gotta do some purely off memory, so bare with me haha.

Some numbers will be rounded off and I may be off on small details (ie. exact stack, bet sizes, etc) but I got the important parts down.

Here's a few to start. Any feedback is appreciated


I don't always get it in with a draw, but when I do...

Sitting at a new 10NL table. I'm in the BB with AQ. The MP (€10.36) opens to 0.30. The CO (€10.00) and Button (€9.00) both call. SB folds and I decide to just call since I'm going to be out of position vs 3 players.

Flop (€1.30): 456

I lead out for about €1.20 looking to get stacks in. Looking back I think that was pure spew but **** it. MP raises to about €3.00 and CO raises to about €7.00 and the Button folds. I push all in and they both call. MP turns over AA and the Button shows 66.

Turn is the 7, River is a brick, a €30 pot is mine.



"It was an aggressive call..."

It's folded to me where I'm with about €10.86 on the button with AQ (yeah yeah I know same hand lol) and make the standard 0.30 raise when I get 3-bet by the SB (€11.20) to 0.90. The SB is somewhat of a LAG and has been pushing me around all session. She also 3 bets EXTREMELY light so I 4 bet to about 1.70 (I didn't wanna put more incase they actually had something this time and have to get off the hand). SB just calls.

At this point it's hard to put SB on a hand, but from what I've seen when I get a call in a spot like this it's usually a speculative hand looking to win a big pot.

Flop (about €3.60): A66

SB checks. I lead out for about €2.50 and they call.

Turn (about €8.60): 8

Check check

River (about €8.60): T

SB pushes all in for about €7.00. The shove annoyed me but I snap-call ready to accept whatever loss I might take from it. She wasn't doing this all the time but if she really had something I figured she would have made a smaller bet and not lose value.

Ended up being a good call though because she tabled 44 and I doubled up.



Good Fold (Or Was it?)

I'm in the BB with about €11.00 with KK. MP (about 8.00) opens to 0.30 and the button (about 10.00) calls. SB folds and I raise it to about €2.00 and hoping I end up with the MP alone. Both the MP and the Button are loose players. The MP will overplay ANY piece of the flop and never. The Button is pretty loose too but has slightly higher stackoff requirements. Both seem to be level 1 thinkers though. They both call.

Flop (about €6.00): A83

**** that's not the flop I wanted. I fire about €3.00 into the pot. I'm willing to get it in with MP but not with the Button who probably would have an Ace if they stay in the hand. MP shoves and the Button shoves too. The MP is so loose I would have called, but with two people putting all their stacks in I'm probably behind as hell so I folded.

MP tables 86 while the Button tables AQ (I swear I'm not picking hands that got AQ in them on purpose lol).


Turn: K

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

River: I don't even ****ing care lol


Button took the ~€20 pot.

I think this is a great hand to learn from because it shows a lesson that you'll run into a lot in poker. In poker we have to learn to judge the qualities of our actions SEPARATE from the outcome. I feel like I played well and made the right move given what I know. If I called I would have more than doubled up, but it would have been a big mistake.



Writing these out takes a lot more time than I expected so these are all the hands I'm gonna post for now. I'll post more in the future. Any opinions, input, feedback is appreciated.
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04-03-2016 , 02:54 AM
Started playing again a few days ago. The rest I got over the day or so made a whole world of difference, as I found myself much more in control. I even lost a 300bb stack in one hand on one table too (set over setted) and the **** didn't even phase me lol

I put in about 15 hours of play and played about 7k hands and left with a €57.82 profit PLUS a €40 bonus I just cleared. My roll is now past the the 500€ mark.

Im officially 1/5 of the way there
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04-03-2016 , 11:56 AM
It takes surprisingly long to type a hand history, doesn't it? (Even my annotated screengrabs are quite time-consuming).
With the AQs I usually squeeze, but calling isn't terrible at 10NL, as you lack fold equity. I'd check the flop and go from there, as I almost never donkbet. Your bet-size is too big too imo. Villains either connected on that 654tt flop, or they missed it by a mile, so will fold stuff like AKo to half pot.

With the AQ vs the LAGgy 3-bettor, 4-betting is probably fine, but you can call in position too. As played, I'd check back the A66 and get two streets by calling bluffs or betting t+r myself. Betting flop and then checking back turn like you did is also OK. Villains will frequently make betting errors on the river when you appear to be one-and-done ("1AD" is the shorthand I use in my notes).
With the kings, I see no purpose in betting the flop. Against level 1 thinkers, you can check-fold, but often you can check-call because a villain will make a stupidly small bet, and then you can bink a 2-outer, or get to showdown cheaply.

It's great to hear you've had some big successes in the last 15 hours. Have you noticed the games being any softer due to the Milestones promo? When Uni has run that in the past, it caused a lot of players to start limping a lot of bad hands in an attempt to see as many flops as possible, and it can change the dynamic of the game a bit.
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04-03-2016 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
It's great to hear you've had some big successes in the last 15 hours. Have you noticed the games being any softer due to the Milestones promo? When Uni has run that in the past, it caused a lot of players to start limping a lot of bad hands in an attempt to see as many flops as possible, and it can change the dynamic of the game a bit.
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated

Now that you mention it I don't think I've noticed any more limping than usual, but then again most of my grinding is done at a time where the site mostly seems to be regs so I don't think I'd probably notice.

All I know is that that milestone prize woulda been lovely lol
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04-03-2016 , 09:07 PM
Just felt like sharing this hand cause I thought it was funny. This is one of those moments where I wish Unibet had chat cause I know there woulda been a blow up in the chat.


I'm playing one of those 1€ 18 cap MTTS with a free ticket. Made it 4 handed with 11070 in chips (blinds are 250/500/50) when I'm on the button with 72. I raised to 1500 to steal the blinds and the bb who is also the big stack (15170) calls.

Flop comes QA2 and I fire a C-bet of 1725. BB calls and I was ready to be done with the hand till the 2 came on the turn. I bet 5900 and the BB check-shoves and I call. BB turn over Q9 and I doubled up instantly and later got the rest of their chips (as well as everyone elses).

I wish I had the same rungood playing Big MTT's lol
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04-04-2016 , 07:29 PM
It's exam season for me now so this is probably gonna be a slow week of poker. I might still try to squeeze in a couple of sessions but this may be my most inactive week ever on the felt.
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04-05-2016 , 05:44 PM
Focusing on the exams is probably +EV in the long run.
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04-05-2016 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Focusing on the exams is probably +EV in the long run.
agreed, only problem is since one of my exams as well as the textbook for it is strictly online, it's too easy for me to get bored/distracted and wind up opening a few tables to "grind while I study"

only problem is when I do this my game is usually ABC at the absolute best and more often than not I end up doing damage to my bankroll while making no progress with school lol

I wouldn't be surprised if I end up going through a 7-8 BI downswing by the end of the week
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04-05-2016 , 07:45 PM
I decided to put in a session bc I couldn't stay away from working on this goal and boy what a mistake that was. I just lost 8.5 buyins lmao

Now I'm really gonna stay the **** away from poker for now

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04-09-2016 , 05:20 PM
Now that I'm done most of my school work I can get back to the grind.

I played for a little while last night at a friend's house while I waited for them to get ready when my table got dealt a milestone hand. I SMH'd when I saw 23.

Entire table goes all in. I call, and....

Spoiler:


[x] Op confirmed luckbox


Not a bad comeback after not getting to play much and doing bad when I did lol. My roll is almost at 600€ now and I may start taking shots at 25NL once I hit 750-800€
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04-09-2016 , 07:45 PM
In, gl cleanoutkid.

With the AQ hand that you xed back the turn i see no reason too. This is the sort of stuff i was doing... basically FPS lines.

I like betting flop and turn or xing the flop and going from there... Esp MW i want to be playing str8 forwardly as possible
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04-10-2016 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Evoxgsr96
In, gl cleanoutkid.

With the AQ hand that you xed back the turn i see no reason too. This is the sort of stuff i was doing... basically FPS lines.

I like betting flop and turn or xing the flop and going from there... Esp MW i want to be playing str8 forwardly as possible
Ppreciate it man

And yeah now that I got a clearer mind and more time on my hands I've been going over a lotta hands and SMHing at how many of them I botched horrendously lol

What do you mean by FPS though?

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04-10-2016 , 05:42 AM
FPS = Fancy Play Syndrome.

Basically compromising the best EV lines by trying to be unnecessarily clever and trying to level your villain. Not the saying the hand in question is FPS because I haven't looked at it. Just telling you what FPS is. It's covered in various mindset books, which maybe suggests you should read one??
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04-10-2016 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Fatboy54
FPS = Fancy Play Syndrome.

Basically compromising the best EV lines by trying to be unnecessarily clever and trying to level your villain. Not the saying the hand in question is FPS because I haven't looked at it. Just telling you what FPS is. It's covered in various mindset books, which maybe suggests you should read one??
Yeah this.

Honestly at times i feel like i play really face up but vs. some villain's who even cares they will still call frequently, they won't be exploiting us, and yh they just make more calling mistakes. .

Their tendencies matter a lot tho, but generally it's always better to value bet in these spots.

Also another merit is that it just makes your life easier on later streets.
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04-10-2016 , 02:46 PM
Ohhh Fancy Play Syndrome lol ok I got u guys

FPS is probably my biggest leak as a player tbh. I was able to get rid of it on stars once as I started 12-16 tabling but since the most tables I can play without a HUD is 6 I see it coming out again in a lot of hands.

At this stage as a player I can probably deal with it more effectively than before though
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04-11-2016 , 06:34 PM
Had a swingy session but I managed to come on top for just over 20€ profit today. I'm above the 600€ mark enough to say I've past it and am working towards 700€ now.

Two things have stuck out to me though over the past 10+ hours of play though:

1) Somehow I've managed to start playing WAY too lose in general and need to tighten up again. A lot of the spots I'm losing money in are hands I had no business being a part of in the first place. I don't really lose big pots unless it's a cooler and even then a lot of the coolers I take I easily could have avoided just by folding pre.

2) My shorthanded game needs work. I'm talking about when there's 4 people max at the table but it's usually the worst heads up and unless I'm playing someone who's EXTREMELY exploitable I'm usually burning money. Thankfully I have a lot of books on it that I still need to read PLUS some material a well known high stakes MTT player/author hooked me up with in my email.... so I got work to do

Aside from that I feel like I'm playing considerably better compared to the last week or so and hopefully soon as I plug these leaks even a little bit my winrate will be even nicer
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04-12-2016 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CleanoutKid
I SMH'd when I saw 23
I'd be fist-pump shoving to show some #HeartsAndCommitment

Congrats on the milestone win! I think I was downswinging hard at the same time as you were winning that one, as I was playing more tables than my penguin brain can handle.

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Originally Posted by CleanoutKid
1) Somehow I've managed to start playing WAY too lose in general and need to tighten up again. A lot of the spots I'm losing money in are hands I had no business being a part of in the first place. I don't really lose big pots unless it's a cooler and even then a lot of the coolers I take I easily could have avoided just by folding pre.
I get this too. I'm pretty good at being on the right side of coolers, but some of my biggest losses are from hands I had no business being involved in in the first place. Particularly at 10NL/25NL on Uni, you can crush the game by playing very solidly and by avoiding most of the 'trouble hands'.

What's your winrate looking like if you don't include the milestone win? Can we have an updated graph?
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04-12-2016 , 10:50 AM
Paying off debts by gambling has got to be the most stupid and foolish thing you could ever do. You will end up in far more debt than you started with.

Just get a job and pay it off the sensible way.
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04-12-2016 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Paying off debts by gambling has got to be the most stupid and foolish thing you could ever do. You will end up in far more debt than you started with.

Just get a job and pay it off the sensible way.
Did you read the description? Im getting paid back literally over double my debt lol.

I actually work two jobs in addition to being a full time university student. Most of my money goes towards bills and tuitions (I haven't needed a student loan in years) but obviously I can pay it off a bit. I just figured why not see if I can grind enough to pay it in full in the meantime. Might sound dumb but I think I can do it.

Also despite being an avid poker player I actually have very little gamble in me. If there was no skill involved in poker I woulda stopped taking it seriously years ago

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04-12-2016 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
What's your winrate looking like if you don't include the milestone win? Can we have an updated graph?
I was gonna post an updated graph at the end of this week but since you requested plus I haven't posted another one since I started this thread anyways here you go haha



The graph should be a lot more jagged than it looks but since Excel only goes by dates and not hands or sessions like HE2 does, there's more straight lines than anything. You can tell where I started going through the downswings though. That BIG straight vertical line at the end is when I made the milestone win and after that I had a solid amount of rungood in the next 6-7 sessions and made about 8BI.


As for winrates, my rate calculation is probably pretty off due to sample size and what not but I got my 10NL winrate at 10.62bb/100. My 4NL is probably at least double that lol
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04-13-2016 , 10:33 PM
Gotta go back in exam mode for the week so I'm gonna have to cut down on the play again.

I did however manage to pass the 700€ mark on the last session by a few buyins before stopping. I also got a PLO4 ticket that I've managed to run up 4BI's so far so I think I'm ok taking a break from there

I really need to get better at Omaha. Not saying this because I lost or anything (I actually ran pretty hot) but even though it's a lot swingier, there seems to be a lot of money to be made in the game probably even more than nl holdem

I still don't plan on grinding it for this goal though

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04-14-2016 , 07:25 PM
I put in a small session today and despite running kinda bad I was able to small ball my way back and leave with a 3 BI profit.

With my bankroll currently sitting at 740€ I feel like I should start transitioning slowly into 25NL. I'm a little bit nervous about this transition as it's going to be the biggest stake I will ever have grinded consistently at. That might sound hilarious but its a bit more understandable when you consider I ran up my roll from a 80€ deposit and have no plans on going back ever.

I think what I'm gonna do is drop down from the usual 6 tabling to 4 tabling, with 3 tables being 10NL and one being 25NL. I'm gonna try to stick to the more fishy 25NL tables until I make the full transition. Once I get a better feel for the stake I'll trade more 10NL tables for 25NL tables.

How does this sound?

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04-15-2016 , 01:04 AM
Shoutouts to Andrew for changing my 4€MTT ticket to a 4PLO ticket. I just ran it up to 45€ and got it deposited into my account.

My roll is now at 784.78€.

I'm definitely gonna start taking shots at 25NL next time I play
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04-15-2016 , 02:37 PM
Just got my cashgame reports for the year so far so now I can provide much more accurate winrates.

For NL4, I played 21,944 hands this year and have a winrate of 18.6 bb/100.

For NL10, I played 42,362 hands this year and have a winrate of 4.5 bb/100.


It's a pretty big drop but I only really have myself to blame. I can't expect it to be as high as my 4NL winrate, but at the same time I haven't really spent much of my time at 10NL playing anything better than my B-C game. It's better than a negative winrate but still, I need to get my **** together
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04-15-2016 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CleanoutKid
I think what I'm gonna do is drop down from the usual 6 tabling to 4 tabling, with 3 tables being 10NL and one being 25NL. I'm gonna try to stick to the more fishy 25NL tables until I make the full transition. Once I get a better feel for the stake I'll trade more 10NL tables for 25NL tables.

How does this sound?
Sounds exactly like what worked for me. If you can't get a good 25NL table, or you lose a stack, don't sweat it. Just try another time when you're feeling good about your 10NL tables. To me it seems there are just as many fishy limpers at 25NL as there were at 10NL (you'll even recognise some screennames) and once you win one stack, you'll probably never look back, because 10NL will seem like pointlessly small stakes.

Congrats on the sick winrates at PLO and NL so far. Good luck at 25NL!
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