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06-15-2017 , 02:37 PM
Hey everyone, I've lurked around this for many years now but am going to try making one of these...

A bit about me: I'm currently entering my last year of University but am well aware that if I don't take a shot at full-time poker I'll probably never do it. So here I am.

My plan so far is to play NL25 starting out trying to grind with strict BRM when moving up or taking shots but if don't succeed move down until I'm comfortable moving back up (I hope I don't have to resort to this).


My goals are the following:
(-) Join and participate in a cash game study group (PM me if you have one).
(-) Move from NL25 to NL400 In a year.
(-) Gym 3 times a week.
(-) Play at least 4hours per day. - Will change after summer
(-) Keep a daily updated PG&C thread with any key hands and graph updates.
(-) Average at least 4 Hour of poker study per day. - Will change after summer
(-) Review all 30bb< pots from the previous week at the start of each week.

Goals might be a bit unrealistic maybe, but that's why they're goals right?

See you at the tables.
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06-15-2017 , 03:35 PM
Play 4 hours per day isn't a great goal. I think one of the reasons I'm so profitable is that I only play 3-4 days per week. It's refreshing getting away from the monitor every other day. And you need to leave time to train & watch videos & go over hand histories to improve. I think most people need to lower their tables (I play 4-6 at a time doing MTTs) and fewer days per week.
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06-15-2017 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by vyken111
Play 4 hours per day isn't a great goal. I think one of the reasons I'm so profitable is that I only play 3-4 days per week. It's refreshing getting away from the monitor every other day. And you need to leave time to train & watch videos & go over hand histories to improve. I think most people need to lower their tables (I play 4-6 at a time doing MTTs) and fewer days per week.
Yeah I mean, I play 6 tables at most and table select amazing ^^

45k hands a month isn't a great "goal" as such but I'm focusing more on study rather than huge volume right now. There's no need to grind stupid amounts when you probably aren't going to review it all anyway and still maintain leaks.

That's just my viewpoint on it anyway, I prefer 2 hours study in the morning, 2 hour session, 2 hour break, 2hour session, 2 hour study leaving myself a few hours to play around with. If I want to add more volume I can but I'd probably just add more study time, to be honest.
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06-15-2017 , 06:46 PM
Subbed, gl!

What sites you play? Full ring/6max/HU?

Don't know how realistic nl25 - nl400 is during the final year of university. Remember your priorities! University will still be there in ten years, but poker might not be (I'm half joking).
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06-15-2017 , 07:05 PM
It depends how you see poker...
I play almost everyday more than 4 hours 9 tabling. there's a lovely thing called rakeback and at NL25 rakeback might sounds good

GL mate
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06-15-2017 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletBowler
Subbed, gl!

What sites you play? Full ring/6max/HU?

Don't know how realistic nl25 - nl400 is during the final year of university. Remember your priorities! University will still be there in ten years, but poker might not be (I'm half joking).
Its not realistic at all. 10 years ago it might have been. OP should set his targets a lot, lot lower. Otherwise he will be in for huge disappointment. nl25 - nl50 is more realistic in 1 year.
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06-15-2017 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletBowler
Subbed, gl!

What sites you play? Full ring/6max/HU?

Don't know how realistic nl25 - nl400 is during the final year of university. Remember your priorities! University will still be there in ten years, but poker might not be (I'm half joking).
Playing solely 6max on stars reg tables, probably not the wisest of choices for highest ev but in the end I'll be playing against better regs anyway.

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Originally Posted by WastedRu76
It depends how you see poker...
I play almost everyday more than 4 hours 9 tabling. there's a lovely thing called rakeback and at NL25 rakeback might sounds good

GL mate
yeah of course, rakeback is awesome but grinding for rakeback isn't the best way to move up IMO

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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Its not realistic at all. 10 years ago it might have been. OP should set his targets a lot, lot lower. Otherwise he will be in for huge disappointment. nl25 - nl50 is more realistic in 1 year.
Goals are fine to not be met but when you set your bar low you'll always be low

Lets just see how the challenge goes
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06-16-2017 , 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by endeavour
Goals are fine to not be met but when you set your bar low you'll always be low

Lets just see how the challenge goes
You come across as remarkably naive. Online cash games are very, very tough. You will not go from nl25 - nl400 in 1 year. That's wholly unrealistic and frankly arrogant to think you can do that.

nl25 - nl100 would set your bar high but still at an achievable level. Even a task like this would be very difficult to do.
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06-17-2017 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
You come across as remarkably naive. Online cash games are very, very tough. You will not go from nl25 - nl400 in 1 year. That's wholly unrealistic and frankly arrogant to think you can do that.

nl25 - nl100 would set your bar high but still at an achievable level. Even a task like this would be very difficult to do.
I'm aware and I'm not saying they aren't. However, I don't want to set a goal like NL100 as my peak goal... Also, Might be worth mentioning that I'm easily rolled right now for nl200 but am opting to improve and work before moving up. I am by no means saying that online cash is easy, I'm saying quite the opposite by starting at nl25 and it would be naive of me to start at a higher stake... I suppose I was a bit brief in my first post and haven't really put enough information there.

Small update, I haven't done much volume the last few days, GF came up for the weekend and I've been focusing on studying the rest of the time and haven't managed to fit in many playing hours.
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06-17-2017 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
You don't have to set it as your peak goal of course. nl400 is a great peak goal to have.

But to think you can get there in 1 year starting from nl25 is delusional. I would quite happily bet my house against you achieving that goal (assuming proper bankroll management was adhered to).
yeah exactly, I'm just setting a high bar and hoping for the best, we'll see where I end up
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06-17-2017 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by endeavour
I'm aware and I'm not saying they aren't. However, I don't want to set a goal like NL100 as my peak goal... Also, Might be worth mentioning that I'm easily rolled right now for nl200 but am opting to improve and work before moving up. I am by no means saying that online cash is easy, I'm saying quite the opposite by starting at nl25 and it would be naive of me to start at a higher stake... I suppose I was a bit brief in my first post and haven't really put enough information there.

Small update, I haven't done much volume the last few days, GF came up for the weekend and I've been focusing on studying the rest of the time and haven't managed to fit in many playing hours.
You don't have to set it as your peak goal of course. nl400 is a great peak goal to have.

But to think you can get there in 1 year starting from nl25 is delusional. I would quite happily bet my house against you achieving that goal (assuming proper bankroll management was adhered to).
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06-17-2017 , 09:20 PM
nl25 to nl400 is perfectly doable in a year imo. My advice would be to get a coach to help you move up asap, you will need to work your ass off tho. Also remember to not only review big pots but little pots also, people don't realise how much little pots affect their winrate.
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06-17-2017 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
nl25 to nl400 is perfectly doable in a year imo. My advice would be to get a coach to help you move up asap, you will need to work your ass off tho. Also remember to not only review big pots but little pots also, people don't realise how much little pots affect their winrate.
yeah, I have a coach helping me and am working more than playing atm :P I do need to put in some serious volume at some point though to see where my leaks are but probably won't be able to do that until Monday or Tuesday I presume
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06-17-2017 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
nl25 to nl400 is perfectly doable in a year imo. My advice would be to get a coach to help you move up asap, you will need to work your ass off tho. Also remember to not only review big pots but little pots also, people don't realise how much little pots affect their winrate.
No its not. Name me 1 person who has achieved such a feat in the last year.

If you think its possible, lets see you do it.
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06-18-2017 , 07:43 PM
Managed to fit in a tiny session, she wanted to play sims for a bit



wondered how this one guy was -215bb/100 over like 10k hands... we found out :P

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $25.00
MP: $25.00
CO: $25.00
BTN: $16.21
SB: $28.82

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with J J
3 folds, BTN calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, BTN raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $6, BTN raises to $9.75, Hero raises to $25 all in, BTN calls $6.46 all in

Flop: ($32.52) 3 Q K (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($32.52) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($32.52) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $32.52
Hero shows J J (a pair of Jacks)
BTN shows T 3 (a pair of Threes)
Hero wins $31.06
(Rake: $1.46)
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06-19-2017 , 03:29 AM
Always good to start on a high note!

What's your poker background?
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06-19-2017 , 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
No its not. Name me 1 person who has achieved such a feat in the last year.

If you think its possible, lets see you do it.
Why are you so hostile?

I never said I could achieve such a goal I just think with enough hard work you can get to that level.
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06-19-2017 , 05:55 AM
Good Luck man! Send me your skype and we'll try to get a study group started for 25NL. Myself and another guy play 25NL and are playing basically full time this summer trying to move up the stakes.
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06-19-2017 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletBowler
Always good to start on a high note!

What's your poker background?
Yeah, always nice

So when I was 18 I dropped out of school and played pro for around 6-8 months but I thought I wasn't making enough to justify playing full time and really didn't take it seriously that much. Since then I've been grinding live games, spins and other games online with some decent results and a MTT bink here and there So I have around 5-6 years poker experience but given that I'm not enjoying my degree as much as I thought I would, I want to go pro now

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Originally Posted by Ballerholic
Good Luck man! Send me your skype and we'll try to get a study group started for 25NL. Myself and another guy play 25NL and are playing basically full time this summer trying to move up the stakes.
Cheers mate, Will do
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06-19-2017 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
Why are you so hostile?

I never said I could achieve such a goal I just think with enough hard work you can get to that level.
No chance in 1 year. You "think" but with all due respect, you are completely out of touch with the state of the games in 2017 if that is what you think.
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06-19-2017 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
No chance in 1 year. You "think" but with all due respect, you are completely out of touch with the state of the games in 2017 if that is what you think.
Ok
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06-19-2017 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
Ok
Sorry mate, I wasn't meaning to be hostile. It might help your own mindset if you lowered your expectations to more realistic levels. Micros to mid stakes in 1 year is pure fantasy land. You talk like it's 2006 still, not 2017.
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06-20-2017 , 08:10 PM
A super small session today but got around 3 hours of study in, here's a few hands.

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

MP: $16.94
CO: $25.00
Hero (BTN): $25.60
SB: $25.00
BB: $25.00
UTG: $14.04

UTG posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.60) Hero is BTN with 6 6
UTG checks, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.82, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.57

Flop: ($1.99) 6 A K (2 players)
UTG bets $13.22 all in, Hero calls $13.22

Turn: ($28.43) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($28.43) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $28.43
Hero shows 6 6 (a full house, Sixes full of Aces)
UTG shows 9 K (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Hero wins $27.15
(Rake: $1.28)

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $14.36
SB: $25.00
Hero (BB): $39.67
UTG: $25.00
MP: $29.82
CO: $27.02

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A J
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 9 J 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.98, Hero calls $0.98

Turn: ($3.56) J (2 players)
Hero bets $1.77, MP folds

Final Pot: $3.56
Hero mucks A J
Hero wins $3.40
(Rake: $0.16)

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $25.00
UTG: $35.03
Hero (MP): $28.88
CO: $27.50
BTN: $25.00
SB: $25.43

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with A K
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $0.82, 2 folds, SB calls $0.72, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.57

Flop: ($2.71) 7 Q J (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.71) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $1.25, Hero raises to $3.40, SB folds, UTG calls $2.15

River: ($9.51) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4.96, UTG calls $4.96

Final Pot: $19.43
UTG mucks Q J
Hero shows A K (a flush, Ace high)
Hero wins $18.56
(Rake: $0.87)


Hand 1, Lol.

Hand 2, I like the donk but would've preferred a 30% bet at a high frequency in future.

Hand 3, would prefer a cbet on flop on the large size as I have range advantage but as played after I think it's fine.

Last edited by endeavour; 06-20-2017 at 08:12 PM. Reason: oops
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06-21-2017 , 02:01 AM
hey man good luck! I also play 25NL and play full time basically for the summer. I'd be interested in the study group!
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06-24-2017 , 05:18 PM
Micro's -> Mistakes is definitely doable in a year, just know that it won't be easy. Gl mate!
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