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07-12-2020 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MMSS
This just isn't true at all you don't lose 10bb/100 more at all.
Yeah, saw this before and was going to comment but forgot. Exactly, if you keep playing the same strategy, you´re still going to play hands and win, or lose, pots. Just as you´re not (at least shouldn´t) be losing at 50bb/100 from the SB and 100bb/100 from the BB because there are blinds each round.

Optimally you should adapt to the antes, playing a bit looser. Just the statement that you´re automatically subtracting 10 bb/100 from the wr if you don´t adjust is obviously false.
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07-12-2020 , 08:33 PM
You somehow managed to butcher every street of the 99 hand. What the hell are you doing? lol
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07-12-2020 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Busto
You somehow managed to butcher every street of the 99 hand. What the hell are you doing? lol
you seem like a good vibe
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07-13-2020 , 12:16 AM
Year already more than half gone and big surprise...You have gone (drum roll) NOWHERE!, Same behavior and dribble as the last 10+ threads that span over 7~ odd years. You and FazendeiroBH are a match made in heaven dumb and dumber at it's finest! keep up the bad work...we must be damn close to a new thread at this point since you have learnt so much and nothing has changed lel.
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07-13-2020 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
Year already more than half gone and big surprise...You have gone (drum roll) NOWHERE!, Same behavior and dribble as the last 10+ threads that span over 7~ odd years. You and FazendeiroBH are a match made in heaven dumb and dumber at it's finest! keep up the bad work...we must be damn close to a new thread at this point since you have learnt so much and nothing has changed lel.
why do you care so much? weird behaviour
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07-13-2020 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by haadgi
why do you care so much? weird behaviour
This guy is a known troll, better to just ignore him
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07-15-2020 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FazendeiroBH
This guy is a known troll, better to just ignore him
I'm just talking facts...Way I see it you donkeys are the trolls sitting on this forum daily talking in depth strategy (for years on end) and still playing 5-10nl making peanuts going absolutely nowhere cashing out for lunch money, You got to be trolling.
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07-15-2020 , 08:51 AM
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This guy is a known troll, better to just ignore him
Whether he is troll, hater or whatever else you want to label him (or me) as he posted this...

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Year already more than half gone and big surprise...You have gone (drum roll) NOWHERE!, Same behavior and dribble as the last 10+ threads that span over 7~ odd years.
That is pretty near perfect description of op. Completely factual, completely accurate.

You can deflect, deny, obscurate, traduce etc etc as much you want.

Doesn't stop it being true, does it.

Don't get upset at me pointing it out...us fishy micro recreationals have to stick together.

Peace
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07-15-2020 , 09:22 AM
man i'm rooting for you, but this 99 hand.. pal, c'mon. the philosopher-solver turn inducing bet with 3rd pair in a 3betpot is too nl2 logic to be true.

flop betsizing is solid btw, don't worry about that street.
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07-15-2020 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OldManDecaf
Whether he is troll, hater or whatever else you want to label him (or me) as he posted this...



That is pretty near perfect description of op. Completely factual, completely accurate.

You can deflect, deny, obscurate, traduce etc etc as much you want.

Doesn't stop it being true, does it.

Don't get upset at me pointing it out...us fishy micro recreationals have to stick together.

Peace
That guy is obviously 100% tilted by all the 2-10nl struggling players running around in circles and, dare you, posting strat on each other threads lol. Actually I´m putting him out of the troll list and putting him on the "this guy must have some big mental problems to go out of his way to berate all the micro donks for being micro donks " Wouldn´t you be salivating to play vs donks all day long?

I actually like and respect you, you seem to have some sort of fascination with our friend Philosopher (don´t hate me for the joke pls), yet your attitude is different. I don´t think anyone ever thought, at least seriously, "what is wrong with this guy" about you.

I must admit that in the old past, I´d be the one bullying and trolling guys like @reloadonsashagray, yet as an adult it´s better to stop derailing Philosopher´s thread. Guess I´ll just block him again to not fall on this temptation

Peace
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07-15-2020 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FazendeiroBH
That guy is obviously 100% tilted by all the 2-10nl struggling players running around in circles and, dare you, posting strat on each other threads lol. Actually I´m putting him out of the troll list and putting him on the "this guy must have some big mental problems to go out of his way to berate all the micro donks for being micro donks " Wouldn´t you be salivating to play vs donks all day long?

I actually like and respect you, you seem to have some sort of fascination with our friend Philosopher (don´t hate me for the joke pls), yet your attitude is different. I don´t think anyone ever thought, at least seriously, "what is wrong with this guy" about you.

I must admit that in the old past, I´d be the one bullying and trolling guys like @reloadonsashagray, yet as an adult it´s better to stop derailing Philosopher´s thread. Guess I´ll just block him again to not fall on this temptation

Peace
I'm barely on this forum for starters...and NOBODY except extremely poor/broke people are salivating to play donks at 2nl-10nl all day long, Reminding op how poorly he's doing after such a long time of seeing the same behavior/rambling aint a derail it's called a reality check.
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07-16-2020 , 03:11 AM
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you seem to have some sort of fascination with our friend Philosopher
Seriously??

Threads been running 20 months and I've posted what three or four times in it? And only because, years back, I posted strat and stuff in some of ops earlier (multiple) threads, when I had similar delusions about where I might get my online poker prowess to.

Search through his threads (don't its a serious waste of anybodys time) you'll find loads of comments over the years like this...

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Reminding op how poorly he's doing after such a long time of seeing the same behavior/rambling aint a derail it's called a reality check.
usually from good quality, long term posters offering sincere advice.

Like me, they usually foxtrot oscar once they get called haters or trolls just for pointing out reality.

And now I'll get my coat.

GL at the felt
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07-16-2020 , 03:33 AM
I've tried giving these reality checks to Philosopher, like many others. Probably been a bit rude doing so too. It might seem like the easiest thing to just study and start making a profit, but in reality it is not and not many people manage to win even at the micros after countless study hours.

Yes I see that he is stubborn in trying to make his unique strategy work and whatnot for many years, when it obviously doesn't work.

I've also offered help to Philosopher, which he rejected. It's his choice and there is nothing I or anyone can do about that. At least Philosopher and others in the same category manage to stay respectful and thankful even if they don't always act on the advice people give on 2+2. It's not like they make the community toxic. It's another thing if the game seems to be an addiction and something that is ruining them financially or mentally. But mostly it just seems like they enjoy the game and likes talking about it here.

I read these threads mostly because I'm rooting for the guys and have a little bit of hope things will turn around eventually. If they want help they will ask for it I guess.

GL!
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07-21-2020 , 12:10 PM
Updates? How is the 50z shot going? Btw, sorry for the derailing and for using your thread to enter extensive arguments with other ppl. Won´t do it again.
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07-22-2020 , 05:55 AM
What adjustments are taking for the ante's? The dichotomy between a high rake environment and ante cash games is tricky.. Ofc the games naturally become splashier w/ lower SPR postflop! Opening larger seems an easy adjustment to minimize multiway pots but I don't think developing flatting ranges is going to do much for your winrate imo.. Whats everyone's thoughts?
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07-25-2020 , 04:15 PM
Fazendeiro, no need to apologize. You're one of the few who's always supportive/helpful/positive. As for nl50z shots, haven't continued with that. Actually, kinda slowed down a bit. Been away from the thread a bit cause of the negativity.

Shipnickle, thanks, don't remember rejecting an offer for help, but my memory sucks haha. Appreciate if you did, and might take you up on that if you're still offering. But want to get back into getting good volume in first so that I can make use of any help and not waste your time lol. Will work my way up from nl2z, and once I sense I hit a bit of a road block, I'll see if you're still offering. I honestly don't really know what my own abilities are yet, cause I'm never able to put in enough volume (and solid play) to really find out.

Gonna create a new PG&C thread that's more goals oriented. Just a series of goals (one after the other), that will help me work my way up. Discipline and volume have been somewhat of a problem, so I think that's a good start to changing things. And I think a new thread will be good for that. Will still post results after completing each goal, and I'll try to post hands every so often while progressing through each goal.

I'll ask in advance for anyone who is just being negative, to not post in the new thread. I'll just ignore any such posts that aren't being helpful in any way.

I know my way of going about things is a big reason for attracting trolls/troll-like behaviour, and that's one area I'll be looking to improve. I'm not gonna try and be clever, or make "my own strategy" work, or use fancy BRM plans. Just gonna try and play solid, make sure I know I can win (at a decent rate) at a stakes before moving up, and make goals to help keep me on track.

New start, new attitude, and hopefully new success.
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08-06-2020 , 01:36 AM
Good Luck. Looking forward to your new thread and new succes.

Maybe post a link?
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08-06-2020 , 03:12 AM
If you're starting over from 2NLz, why not throw in some regular tables on the side? I'm also playing 2NLz and have a small winrate there, but am able to achieve 20bb/100 on reg tables by table selecting. Helps build up the roll quicker and cover the negative variance you may experience in ZOOM. I understand and admire the ambition to focus on playing as theoretically well as possible, but there's also no reason to pass up playing with whales against who you can exploitatively pot/pot/overbet shove with TPTK and get called by worse every time
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