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Newbie crushing micro stakes, what now? Newbie crushing micro stakes, what now?

11-15-2018 , 05:50 AM
So I've played/followed poker for years. Normally played for fun in relatively large MTTs 200-2000 players, $20-50 buy in, with little to no success.
Recently I started playing NL20 speed on ipoker (zoom for pokerstars).
Consistent results but it didnt seem all that significant as c'mon.. its NL20..
I had a few days off recently and played 2-3 tables for like 7 hours per day to see if I could consistently make money, results were good!
This morning I decided to download PT4 (i had it like 7 years ago when trying to make money from MTTs in university) to up my game a little, didnt realise it would import all my hands from iPoker.
12,000 hand sample, crushing for 27/100, and there are a couple of longish periods where i was most certainly not playing my A game. making more than I make at work, about £17ph inc rakeback. Making money in the SB/BB (i know its micros but wtf..) 23/100 and 5/100 respectively.
If i get to the point where I've got 30/40k hand sample with similar results I think I may quit my job and just crack on with poker (an absolute dream of mine since uni days).
The more I type the more I realise Im just venting excitement as much as anything (I have no poker buddies and all my real life friends/family would balk at the idea of me quitting my job to 'gamble')
I guess my questions would be..
What kind of sample size is reasonable to suggest this is what i can expect?
Would I be better off 6-8 tabling regular 6 max tables than playing 2-3 speed/zoom?
Where is the juicy 6 max NL50 action?
If anyone actually read this thanks, if anyone responds doubly so!
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11-15-2018 , 09:29 AM
12k hand sample is nothing. It would be possible to run even much better in that amount of hands.

27bb/100 isn't achievable long term anywhere, especially in speed/zoom games. Best crushers are making 2-4bb/100 over large samples. It isn't realistic to expect more.

Once you play 50k hands, you'll see that your winrate will be in a single digit (you'll hit some "downswings"). Once you play 100k hands, you'll get a winrate that is close to your "true" WR.

Don't leave your job mate. I've seen way too many people doing that and then going broke with poker. Poker players always feel like their upswings are their "true" winrate, get way too much confidence, and then lose it all in a few "downswings".

If you really want to make money with poker, It's much easier to do it playing regular cash games (more fish there, regs play worse and you can game select). +You won't ever be able to move up in stakes where you're playing right now, as you probably know.

Just my 2c
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11-15-2018 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ZKesic
12k hand sample is nothing. It would be possible to run even much better in that amount of hands.

27bb/100 isn't achievable long term anywhere, especially in speed/zoom games. Best crushers are making 2-4bb/100 over large samples. It isn't realistic to expect more.

Once you play 50k hands, you'll see that your winrate will be in a single digit (you'll hit some "downswings"). Once you play 100k hands, you'll get a winrate that is close to your "true" WR.

Don't leave your job mate. I've seen way too many people doing that and then going broke with poker. Poker players always feel like their upswings are their "true" winrate, get way too much confidence, and then lose it all in a few "downswings".

If you really want to make money with poker, It's much easier to do it playing regular cash games (more fish there, regs play worse and you can game select). +You won't ever be able to move up in stakes where you're playing right now, as you probably know.

Just my 2c
Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.
I really feel that these games are weak af. I literally see people losing value with their mistakes on a minute to minute basis, and people getting WAY out of line bc how much can it mean with only £20 on the line and maybe they get frustrated/bored.
Yeah my local cash game plays very oddly, some really poor aggro fish that completely inflate/distort the game sometimes. although the rake is 10% half the time (5% off peak). I pop down sometimes anyway, will be doing so more in the near future.
The last few days Ive really been wanting to play as much as possible, your 50k/100k sample suggestions have only made that more of a reality. Ill post a recap at each of those milestones!!
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