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11-28-2010 , 02:25 AM
I have four major leaks:

- I'm playing too loose. Have to tight up a bit, not to a tag, but something like 30/25 or 25/20. Otherwise I don't have fold eq at all.

- Have to stop sick bluffs. I know they have top pair Ax and will not lay down.

- Have to value bet better on river.

- Don't call when I'm beat.

If I tight up a little I'll be able to four table. I did it today and it was better than two tables, I was bluffing less and playing better hands.

BR:60 sick down.

I didn't tilt (too much ) so I think I'm ok. Of course I didn't like the suck outs, but I gave my ones too.

Let's try this new plan. Tight up a little, bluff on good spots only, value bet better on river. Fold when you don't have a reason to call or raise.

sick hand:

Flopped the nuts. Wanted to put all money in the middle as I was getting action, was not happy as SB folds, if he calls It would save the hand.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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MP2: $1.95
CO: $2.24
BTN: $1.00
SB: $3.98
Hero (BB): $7.32
UTG: $2.55
UTG+1: $1.33
UTG+2: $5.03
MP1: $1.42

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with Q J
6 folds, BTN raises to $0.06, SB calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.18) K T 9 (3 players)
SB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, BTN raises to $0.94 all in, SB calls $0.74, Hero raises to $3.76, SB folds

Turn: ($3.00) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($3.00) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

of course I lost, do you kknow what vilain had?

in white: TT
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11-28-2010 , 02:27 AM
Hey, Just a word of advice at 2NL... NEVER BLUFF. Also just play ABC poker and you will be fine.
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11-28-2010 , 02:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by qbvbsite
Hey, Just a word of advice at 2NL... NEVER BLUFF. Also just play ABC poker and you will be fine.
Actually I think it's a never bluff when the other guy can't fold, but that's the most players of 2nl. There are some guys that can fold a hand on certain spots, and it's profitable. You're right ALMOST NEVER BLUFF!!!


Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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MP2: $3.63
CO: $0.63
BTN: $4.70
SB: $2.14
Hero (BB): $4.68
UTG: $2.24
UTG+1: $0.80
MP1: $0.70

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with 3 2
6 folds, SB raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.12) K Q J (2 players)
SB bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.36) J (2 players)
SB bets $0.26, Hero raises to $0.64, SB folds

Final Pot: $0.88
Hero shows 3 2 (a pair of Jacks)
Hero wins $0.84
(Rake: $0.04)

I call the pre flop raise because it's BvB and I'll have position. I'm floatting on flop because I don't think Vilain has the nuts on flop otherwise he would just check to me. When the board paired I think is a good spot to bluff he's a good player with low WTSD stat. But I don't need to do it all the time.
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11-28-2010 , 03:07 AM
I dont really think its profitable at 2NL. Yes it may work sometimes but its better just to never to it. They dont need to have the nuts not to fold as they will call with 3rd pair alot of the time. Once you get to 5NL you can find nice spots to 3bet cbets to bluff but I would just remove it from your 2NL game.
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11-28-2010 , 03:42 AM
i think you may want to wait until your br is higher than $100 before you move up
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11-28-2010 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SySteMChEck
i think you may want to wait until your br is higher than $100 before you move up
yes, thanks for the advice.

When I got 100 I'll take some shots at 5nl. Not before anymore.
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11-28-2010 , 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by qbvbsite
I dont really think its profitable at 2NL. Yes it may work sometimes but its better just to never to it. They dont need to have the nuts not to fold as they will call with 3rd pair alot of the time. Once you get to 5NL you can find nice spots to 3bet cbets to bluff but I would just remove it from your 2NL game.
I see your point qbvbsite. Thanks for caring. I promisse you I'll play a session bluff free, most of the time. And try to handle all four leaks I have.

I'll post results later. Today played some hands on my mom's house. Down a few bucks.

BR: 58
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11-28-2010 , 09:39 PM
Look forward to it . GL at the tables.
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11-28-2010 , 09:52 PM
So easy to play when you have cards and a bad image.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BB: $1.15
UTG: $0.78
Hero (MP): $3.23
CO: $1.92
BTN: $3.73
SB: $2.48

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with 3 3
1 fold, Hero calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, BB checks

Want a three so bad.

Flop: ($0.10) 3 K 3 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.02, SB folds, BB folds, Hero raises to $0.06, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.22, BTN raises to $0.34, Hero calls $0.12

Imagine two. Villain min raise here twice. I heard min raise is a good hand that don't want you to fold and will never fold, so I can take this hand to showdown. I put KK in his hand, no other hand in my mind would be playing like that. So his range is KK only, lol. If a K hits I would fold, imagine.


Turn: ($0.78) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.30, BTN calls $0.80

Good bet again KK would do it, for value, sure; hey AA too. I raise here to shove river.

River: ($3.38) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.57 all in, BTN calls $1.57

Easy shove, I didn't see the straight flush possibility. Just see it now.

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $6.52
Hero shows 3d 3s (four of a kind, Threes)
BTN shows 9d Kc (two pair, Kings and Threes)
Hero wins $6.21
(Rake: $0.31)

Hey, shouldn't villain have folded on turn? Is this my bad image?
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11-28-2010 , 10:01 PM
Very nice. I dont think it has anything to do with image it has to do with villains not being able to fold top pair. Gotcha love 2NL.
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11-29-2010 , 03:32 AM
AHAHAH AHA AHA My AHA moment. BR:57 (-1) 800 hands

Didn't follow the plan, started to play four tables. AHA so many AA KK QQ AK AQ AJ 88 99 (hit the flop). That was my AHA moment. I don't have to play crap hands to win. And bro, I know how to play a good hand.

At the end I was just folding craps, playing goods, and everything was fine. I could read others hands even four tabling (for me is a big deal).

Lost some bucks KK x AKs all in pre in the end of the session, otherwise it would be a BE.

No more sick bluffs. Level 2 thinking now, very good for me. Wow, how many hands did I spent to learn this simple concept? Now I know what they have and know what they think I have (I always have nothing in their minds)


lol very happy.
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11-29-2010 , 07:40 AM
Another cooler. BR:55
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11-29-2010 , 09:23 AM
Right on thats good to hear . It took me a while to left medicore hands go as well. A good piece of advice I read in a book: "small hand = small pots.. big hand = big pot" with a big hand big trips or better. SO by using pot control you can control the size of the pot on every street. I find this works very well in micros.
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11-29-2010 , 02:06 PM
you put him on KK and decided to call... why?

that hand is just really badly played and says a lot about how you think about poker and how incorrect it is.

do you think he has KK and KK only? if thats the case why not just go all in? is it because you think he can fold KK on a K33 flop? ask yourself this, if you had ANYTHING other than 33, are you insta folding because you put him on KK? probably not, you probably think he has A high and is now trying to pull a "sick bluff". and IF you are consistent in your thinking, which is, "for every flop, villain always have the near nuts", then thats a pretty big leak... which is obviously not it, so this goes to show inconsistencies in your logic and its rooted in the lack of fundamental understanding of poker.


I think the biggest problem here is the fact you justify your actions so well and 100% oblivious to how badly its played, which probably leads you think you lose to more "coolers" than you really do and do not have a good understanding of hand ranges or "abc poker".
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11-29-2010 , 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by donnyz89
you put him on KK and decided to call... why?

that hand is just really badly played and says a lot about how you think about poker and how incorrect it is.

do you think he has KK and KK only? if thats the case why not just go all in? is it because you think he can fold KK on a K33 flop? ask yourself this, if you had ANYTHING other than 33, are you insta folding because you put him on KK? probably not, you probably think he has A high and is now trying to pull a "sick bluff". and IF you are consistent in your thinking, which is, "for every flop, villain always have the near nuts", then thats a pretty big leak... which is obviously not it, so this goes to show inconsistencies in your logic and its rooted in the lack of fundamental understanding of poker.


I think the biggest problem here is the fact you justify your actions so well and 100% oblivious to how badly its played, which probably leads you think you lose to more "coolers" than you really do and do not have a good understanding of hand ranges or "abc poker".
Hey Don, thanks for your reply. I'm really a beginner.

I was setting mine calling pre flop. The only hand I would expect double min raise was KK. The only hand that would shove x KK min raise twice was the nuts, ok, maybe not, but when I flopped quads I could not think much about other ranges, my mistake, I don't flop quads that often and my experience is limited. So that's why I didn't shove the flop.

If another K hits, it's true, I would consider fold at that moment, now looking back, of course not.

About the coolers you're right, there are spots that I have to work better and don't call/raise/shove in those spots. I think I'll get there. I have to plug these leaks, that's why I'm playing 2nl.

I'll review my hands later and try to extract some spots that I didn't need to raise/call on river, that's a big leak I have to work on. This is calling when you know you're behind.

I think yesterday I got better on bluffing frequency, river value betting, tight up pre flop OOP.

Hope I can get as good as you.
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11-29-2010 , 02:58 PM
Whats your current VPIP and PFR? i know it used to be very high
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11-29-2010 , 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by qbvbsite
Whats your current VPIP and PFR? i know it used to be very high
I don't have it right now but it should be much better than 38/21. When I get home I'll post it.
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11-29-2010 , 03:20 PM
Cool sounds good . I'm aiming for 14/8 but currently running 10/6 but i'm 16 tabling so thats not to bad.
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11-29-2010 , 03:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by qbvbsite
Cool sounds good . I'm aiming for 14/8 but currently running 10/6 but i'm 16 tabling so thats not to bad.
I can't imagine myself 16 tabling. I'm running 4 now. but my stats are so bad that I need to play less tables.
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11-29-2010 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by qbvbsite
Cool sounds good . I'm aiming for 14/8 but currently running 10/6 but i'm 16 tabling so thats not to bad.
Sorru, just took a look, the entire session was 38/19/3.4af

I think I started to play better at the end of the session, so you can imagine that in the begining it was worse than that. 2BB/100 for this time. I'm not able to select part of the day, so I have only todays hands in this stats.

I'll try some more hands before going to bed.

You have to open your range. I have to tight a lot....
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11-29-2010 , 09:16 PM
Nah, at micro's I find it good to be nit. You only need to play your strong hands and very occ. raise with mid pair and SC or mix up your game. Also limp with Axs when you got a few limpers in the pot on occ.. Other then that just play premium hands and cal a few raises (better if mor ethen 1 person is in the pot) with 66+ PP (sometime lower) to set mine and you will be golden.
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11-30-2010 , 01:17 AM
Best session for these days.

I cant extract the stats for this day only. it messes up with yesterday.

217 minutes;3.6 hours; 769 hands; 212 hands/HR (I like to play three not four actually); won 4.53; 14.73 BB/100; 31.31BB/Hour

Is this good? Despite my lack of volume, but if you compare your BB/Hour, is it a good rate?

If I mix up yesterday and today, the stats are: 35/17/2.78 last time were 38/19/3.4af more tight, less agressive overall (1800 hands).

I'm doing great, just a hand I played KK x AQ, board Qxx, we get all chips in. Vilain get a Q. Thought wtf, but didn't tilt, so I think it's good, I wanted him to call so I won, he did what I wanted, that's how I try to see it.


Villain is a bad regular, 160 hh, 9/3/1.1af playing Short Stack.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
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BB: $4.43
UTG: $3.09
UTG+1: $1.76
MP: $0.80
CO: $5.63
Hero (BTN): $4.21
SB: $1.01

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with K K
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP raises to $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.25) 7 7 Q (2 players)
MP bets $0.12, Hero raises to $0.38, MP calls $0.26

Turn: ($1.01) 8 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.34, MP calls $0.32 all in

River: ($1.65) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $1.65
MP shows Qc Ac (a full house, Queens full of Sevens)
Hero shows Kc Ks (two pair, Kings and Queens)
MP wins $1.57
(Rake: $0.08)


I'll post three best and worst hands later, no comments I need to sleep I'll comment tomorrow.
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11-30-2010 , 01:40 AM
Best hands / biggest winnings.

Hand W #1

vilain unknow 17 hands 23/11/3af

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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UTG+2: $4.51
MP1: $5.21
MP2: $5.86
CO: $5.00
BTN: $3.00
SB: $0.78
BB: $1.16
UTG: $0.58
Hero (UTG+1): $5.08

CO posts a big blind ($0.02)

Pre Flop: ($0.05) Hero is UTG+1 with 9 9
1 fold, Hero calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $0.06, MP2 calls $0.06, 3 folds, BB calls $0.04, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.27) 9 T Q (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.14, MP2 folds, BB folds, Hero raises to $0.56, MP1 raises to $1.62, Hero raises to $5.02 all in, MP1 calls $3.40

Turn: ($10.31) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($10.31) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $10.31
MP1 shows Jh Ad (a pair of Tens)
Hero shows 9d 9c (a full house, Nines full of Tens)
Hero wins $9.80
(Rake: $0.51)



Hand W #2 hey a suck out mine one time lol

vilain 28/2/1.2af 53 hands

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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BB: $2.86
UTG: $2.00
UTG+1: $5.66
UTG+2: $3.39
Hero (MP1): $5.01
MP2: $4.91
CO: $1.94
BTN: $2.00
SB: $5.07

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP1 with T T
UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, 3 folds, SB calls $0.07, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.26) T 4 3 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.08, SB calls $0.08, UTG folds

Turn: ($0.42) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $0.80, SB raises to $4.91 all in, Hero calls $4.05 all in

River: ($10.12) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $10.12
Hero shows Ts Th (a full house, Tens full of Deuces)
SB shows 5s As (a straight, Ace to Five)
Hero wins $9.62
(Rake: $0.50)



Hand W #3

vilain 90/70/3.6af - was playing for fun. was raising every one every street. I got a big pair once, limped because I knew he was goint to raise, and he folded OTB. It was a suprise for me. lol.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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Hero (UTG): $2.85
UTG+1: $2.01
MP1: $4.43
MP2: $0.84
CO: $1.60
BTN: $5.41
SB: $3.29
BB: $4.57

CO posts a big blind ($0.02)

Pre Flop: ($0.05) Hero is UTG with K A
Hero raises to $0.14, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $0.26, 5 folds, Hero raises to $2.85 all in, MP1 calls $2.59

Flop: ($5.75) J J 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($5.75) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($5.75) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $5.75
Hero shows Kh As (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
MP1 mucks 9s Qs
Hero wins $5.47
(Rake: $0.28)



Brag hand: Quads

vilain 4 hands, 40/0/0.5af.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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MP2: $4.54
CO: $1.27
BTN: $3.06
SB: $1.02
BB: $0.94
UTG: $0.95
UTG+1: $6.36
Hero (MP1): $6.05

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP1 with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, 1 fold, CO calls $0.08, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.19) A 5 K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.19) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.06, CO raises to $0.12, Hero raises to $0.28, CO calls $0.16

River: ($0.75) K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.18, CO raises to $0.36, Hero raises to $1.30, CO calls $0.55 all in

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $2.57
CO shows Ah 8c (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Hero shows Kd Kc (four of a kind, Kings)
Hero wins $2.45
(Rake: $0.12)
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11-30-2010 , 01:41 AM
BR:60
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11-30-2010 , 01:51 AM
Worst hand

I'm very sleep now.

vilain 36/9/1 on 80ish hands. Is a calling station, call A high, one pair, second pair, etc.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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BTN: $0.77
SB: $1.12
BB: $2.23
UTG: $1.14
Hero (UTG+1): $5.64
MP1: $2.90
MP2: $5.33
CO: $1.59

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG+1 with 9 8
UTG calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.02, 2 folds, SB calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.10) 7 9 T (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.06, UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.22, MP2 calls $0.22, SB folds, BB calls $0.16

Turn: ($0.76) 9 (3 players)
BB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $1.16, MP2 raises to $2.22, BB folds, Hero raises to $4.66, MP2 raises to $5.09 all in, Hero calls $0.43

River: ($11.04) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $11.04
Hero shows 9h 8h (three of a kind, Nines)
MP2 shows 7c 9c (a full house, Nines full of Sevens)
MP2 wins $10.49
(Rake: $0.55)




There's another one, very bad as well

vilain 28/8/4 25 hands

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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BTN: $4.96
SB: $0.94
BB: $2.03
UTG: $4.93
UTG+1: $1.63
MP1: $1.97
MP2: $4.87
Hero (CO): $6.90

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with Q Q
UTG raises to $0.06, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.06, MP2 calls $0.06, Hero raises to $0.30, 4 folds, MP1 calls $0.24, MP2 calls $0.24

Flop: ($0.99) T 5 7 (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.66, MP1 calls $0.66, MP2 calls $0.66

Turn: ($2.97) J (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $2.94, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $3.91 all in, Hero calls $0.97

River: ($10.79) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $10.79
MP2 shows Jh Td (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
Hero shows Qh Qc (a pair of Queens)
MP2 wins $10.26
(Rake: $0.53)
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