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Originally Posted by theginger45
GL dude, solid results so far, big respect for what you're doing.
However, this is no reflection on you, but I think PG&C should seriously consider introducing rules against coaches making it a requirement that their students post threads in here in order to promote the coach's services. 2p2 has an established coaching forum which respectable coaches pay money to advertise in, for one thing, and the fact that such posts in PG&C are less heavily moderated means that coaches can make ludicrous and misleading claims like "without using advanced strategies".
FWIW I am not a butthurt competitor of Gordon's, since he coaches exclusively cash from what I can tell, and I coach MTTs. But I am someone who pays to use the coaching forum, doesn't make ridiculous demands of my students for personal gain, and recognises that "make $10k without using advanced strategies!" is the poker equivalent of "this housewife makes $1k/day answering surveys online!" - it's vague, intentionally-misleading bull****.
There's a reason why the coaching forum sticky contains this paragraph:
I don't see any reason why, if directly asking students to post positive reviews is not okay (which I absolutely agree with), it's somehow okay for coaches to make it a requirement for students to post positive things about their services in PG&C. This must be the fourth or fifth thread like this I can remember seeing, and I barely ever even read cash game threads.
I propose that any future PG&C threads that openly discuss the coaching services of anyone other than the OP be very heavily moderated. Everyone uses PG&C for self-promotion in some way so there's nothing wrong with saying you're doing coaching or selling pieces or looking for a backer, but a deliberate and systematic promotion of one coach's services across the forum should not be acceptable.
That said...GL OP!
Short on customers are we?
This is as sad as it gets i think, and talking about requiring students to run a thread, says it all...
You clearly dont know what you are talking about...
The reasons Hans runs this thread is only that he gets free coaching... as in he pays by running this thread, and out of eventual profits, otherwise it is free for him.
Also if he fails at this, it will also be public knowledge that a G student failed, and i am sure you will love it if it happens.
Gordon is just being open about what he sells, and if it does not work, you get the results right here in front of you, only problem seen from your pov would be that Hans is not failing.
So no, it is not a requirement to run any threads to become a GG student, and you are wrong.
I also believe you are mixing things up, because this is not feedback on Gordons coaching, and as such not Gordon asking anyone to post on his behalf, and especially not in a positive manner.
So forget about your nice quote, that does not address this thread.
This thread is not advertising, but depicting results from following the system Gordon recommends, so ofc it does advertise, but even more important it shows you that his system is working... And it would also show if it was not.
This quote "this housewife makes $1k/day answering surveys online!" that you compare to the headline in this thread, has no bearing at all... firstly because that quote is an outright lie, as i know for a fact that it is not possible to do without working more than fulltime filling out surveys, where this thread actually does what it says.
I don't understand why there is so many coaches that does not like Gordon, and the only reason i see is that he has too many successful students.
Get over this petty jealousy, and start promoting yourself and get the customers to post how they feel about your coaching, and you will find success too. (If you are any good that is)
Actually the better results you deliver, the more customers will post without you even asking them... I believe Gordons thread proves that point.
For some reason all you coaches spent time flaming the successful one, where you would do a lot better using the energy you spent on complaining, promoting your own business instead.
I am not a free Gordon student, but i like how he says things as they are, and his material is top notch, so ofc i defend him here...
GL with your business, if you start focusing on that instead of other peoples business, i am sure your roi will improve once you do.