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05-23-2016 , 09:23 AM
About me and my poker experiences:

I'm 26 years old and have worked for 2.5 years. My contract ends in a few days and before I go looking for a new job I'll be taking a few months off to travel a bit, play some poker and think about which career path I will take next.
I've been playing NL5/NL10/NL25 recreationally for about 5 years on PS and managed to win a couple of hundred euro every few months. Switched to PLO two months ago and I like it a lot more. I started playing PLO10 with the occasional shot at PLO25 but broke even after about 50K hands. I noticed I ran 300 euro below EV, which was sad but well.. normal. What frustrated me a lot more is that pokertracker showed me I had payed 1K in rake. I withdrew my bankroll from PS, put some of it away and deposited 300 euro at Unibet.

This thread:

I've since turned that 300 into 452 euro playing PLO10 (including a failed 4-BI shot at PLO25) and would like to turn it into a few thousand by September 1st. I want to focus on good PLO play, which is why I'm not putting up an exact amount of profit as an end goal.

I'm making this thread to keep track of my own progress and to keep myself motivated and disciplined. I will also post hands for discussion and welcome your feedback. I'll probably also discuss some of the study material I'll be going through (starting with Jeff Hwang's advanced PLO part I).

I've noticed I tend to bend the bankroll-rules but I plan to play PLO10 until I have 600 euro and then take a shot at PLO25. Dropping back down to PLO10 when I hit 500.

This is my first "goals & challenges"-thread so I'm not exactly sure what this will become, but I guess we'll find out soon enough


Kind regards
14nd3r

Last edited by 14nd3r; 05-23-2016 at 09:40 AM.
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05-23-2016 , 10:14 AM
Good luck, I play cash on unibet, way softer then stars and very little rake.
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05-23-2016 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Labax
Good luck, I play cash on unibet, way softer then stars and very little rake.
Thanks. You play PLO or NLHE?
Yeah, softer field, lower rake, and extra promotions.. better place to build a roll than PS imo. Can't play as many tables but it turns out this benefits my decision making a lot.
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05-23-2016 , 12:33 PM
NLHE, agree with everything you've said. Great place to build a roll with all the promotions they've had on as of late.
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05-23-2016 , 04:58 PM
Finished first session (~2 hrs) with a win despite losing 3 flips in a row. One of those flips bothered me a bit:

6 handed 100bb effective, folded to me on the CO. I pot 8JQKrb. Tight BTN player calls, the rest folds.

flop comes 9T2rb , I bet 3/4 pot and villain raises pot.

I'm 99% certain villain only does this with a set but don't really care because we still have 44% in the worst case, I 3bet/gii.

After thinking about it I believe my best line OOP is to x/c flop and non pairing turns against a tight player on a rainbow board. Even though we have the nut wrap.
Reasoning:
- villain pretty much has to have a set or 2 pair, and if the turn pairs we can get away.
- tight villain is highly unlikely to raise a dry flop like this in position and then fold to the 3bet
- on the off chance villain has a worse straight draw, we want to keep him in to freeroll him

Bankroll: 482.01 euro

Last edited by 14nd3r; 05-23-2016 at 05:16 PM.
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05-24-2016 , 12:44 PM
Short session today but ran like god.
Shipped a 2 euro SNG with one ticket and also played a bit of Banzai with some other tickets for the first time (10bb max buyin NLHE).. not really my style but it seems like pretty easy money, still have to play through a couple hundred flops before the ticketmoney is released though.

Bankroll: 546.35
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05-25-2016 , 04:18 AM
Squeezed in a late night 2 hour session yesterday and already ran the roll up to 601. Ready for my 4BI shot at PLO25!
I would've liked to review some hands here but it's a bit harder than I anticipated as Unibet does not have a hand replayer yet (they're working on it though). So its hard to remember the specifics of certain hands after a session. Anyways, I'll try to make it work regardless. I'll also post a graph at the end of this (and every month) to visualize the progress.

Bankroll: 601.36
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05-25-2016 , 09:28 AM
PLO PLO PLO

Keep it up
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05-26-2016 , 05:25 AM
Played a half hour drunk session yesterday after having a few drinks with friends. No worries, didn't take the PLO25 shot hammered just played some PLO10 for fun.

Only remember one hand that's still bugging be a bit, but I think it's fine (would like to hear some opinions on whether or not this is standard):

PLO10, 6 handed, 100bb stacks all around. UTG opens 3bb. I pot OTB with 99TTss.
Tight SB player pots it to 3.35 or smth, everybody folds, action on me.

One of those spots where we pretty much know villain has AAxx. I call.
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AAxx61.00% 365,805392
9c9hThTs39.00% 233,803392

Flop comes KJ2rb

He pots and is allin. And I called getting 2:1 and having 30% equity (B-E play).
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
3,151,260 trials (Exhaustive)
board: KJ2
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AAxx70.11% 2,209,221267
9c9hThTs29.89% 941,772267

In retrospect I thought this play might be kind of borderline and maybe I should consider folding flop.
I thought since we are barely making the right decision against AAxx, that we might be losing if we add some double suited broadways to his range. But apparently we still have our required 30% equity. Even when adding AKK's to his range as well.
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
4,200,040 trials (Exhaustive)
board: KJ2
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AA, AKTJ:xxyy, AKQT:xxyy, AQTJ:xxyy70.05% 2,941,816360
9c9hThTs29.95% 1,257,864360

Bankroll: 598.77

Last edited by 14nd3r; 05-26-2016 at 05:37 AM.
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06-01-2016 , 06:56 AM
My graph for the first month, pretty happy considering the fact that I really didn't put in that much hours.. for the next months I will ask Unibet support / UnibetAndrew to mail me the number of hand I played etc to get a bit more of a detailed view on my winrate etc:



I played 20 flops for 5 days in a row at the end of May and was rewarded a 25PLO ticket (EZ money ^^). Already ran it up to about 73 euro. 40 More flops and the ticketmoney will be added to the bankroll.

Also the contract at my job has officially ended so I can focus on the pokerz a bit more, will start reading Jeff Hwang's advanced PLO strategy Part 1 today!
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06-01-2016 , 08:42 AM
Unibet just released the June promotion:

Quote:
Elke dag in juni wint de speler met de sterkste poker hand aan NLHE en PLO tafels het equivalent van 100 big blinds in cash voor de inzet waarvoor hij op dat moment aan het spelen was, en dit om de 20 minuten en van 16u00 tot 01u00.
translation:
Every day in June the player with the strongest poker hand at the NLHE and PLO tables will win the equivalent of 100 bb in cash for the buyin he was playing at that time, this every 20 minutes and from 4 pm to 1 am.

.. sounds juicy, guess I'll be playin a lot this month.
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06-02-2016 , 05:36 PM
Still on the PLO25 shot and it's going pretty well. Also read the first 50 pages of advanced PLO part 1, which is the first chapter about floating. I like what it's doing to my game, I'm getting into a lot of pots in position and taking advantage of the players that don't double barrel enough/barrel turn small with scared hands.

A hand that felt kind of spewy:

PLO25 6-max, I've got 200bb in the BB, BTN has 50bb and the rest has 100bb.

UTG folds, CO raises to 0.85, MP calls, BTN calls, SB calls, I pot with AKJ2 to about 5 euro, UTG calls, MP calls, the rest folds.

flop (pot is now about 17 euro)

562

I've got a pair and 2 high BDFD's, I ship it with a little more than a PSB behind.
I was about to put this into the simulator but I'm having a very hard time inputting their ranges.. Any input is most welcome.


Bankroll: 718
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06-06-2016 , 07:46 PM
Leaving for Spain for a 6 day vacation tomorrow but I'm happy to report that I made it to 1K for the very first time (just finished the 6 hour session to make it ^^) !
I feel like I'm comfortably beating PLO25 but will hold off on taking a PLO50 shot until the bankroll reaches 1500.

Here's the receipt and the graph up until now



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06-16-2016 , 07:41 AM
Back from my trip and broke even over the last 2 days of playing. I had been playing 3 regular tables up until this point with some two-and-a-half-men-episodes in the background. I realise this doesn't sound optimal but I feel I play very relaxed this way and if needed, I pause the series when tough spots occur.

Anyways, I decided to turn of the tv series and play 5 tables but it didn't work out.. I didn't bluff when it was obvious that I should, I spewed off a couple of stacks in spots where I didn't have to, etc. Playing more than 4 tables is far from GTO for me

Edit: I asked about the hand from 2 posts ago in the SSPLO forum and the play seems to have been fairly standard (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/38...w-not-1612852/).

Bankroll: 1079
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06-16-2016 , 08:14 AM
Nice post man, keep it up!

Is Unibet just another skin of the iPoker network?
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06-16-2016 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MacAnRi
Nice post man, keep it up!

Is Unibet just another skin of the iPoker network?
Tnks
It used to be part of the Microgaming Poker Network but now it's a standalone network I think.
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06-17-2016 , 05:59 AM
Yeh, it's standalone. We made our own software, only Pokerihuone (who Unibet own) and Unibet are on it.
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06-17-2016 , 05:31 PM




This promotion is friggin awesome!

Bankroll: 1236
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06-20-2016 , 08:10 PM
I've been downswinging for the past 2 days the bankroll is back at 1077 euro. One of the big hands:

6 handed, PLO25, me (MP) and the SB have 200bb (50euro)

UTG limps, I pot with AAT3 to 1.1, CO folds, BTN folds, SB pots to about 3.7 euro, everybody folds, I pot to 11 euro, SB calls

Flop (pot 23 euro, 40 euro behind): 42T

SB checks, I pot (with SPR 2), SB shuvs, I call

SB shows KK42 for bottom 2 pair.

Lost the pot. Don't think there was anything I could do but was surprised to find out that, even against 2 pair otf, I was still flipping.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: T42
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
KK4253.23% 319,3600
AAT346.77% 280,6400


Tomorrow I'll take some time to study some more and regain my confidence Hopefully the next session will go a bit better.
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06-20-2016 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 14nd3r
I've been downswinging for the past 2 days the bankroll is back at 1077 euro. One of the big hands:

6 handed, PLO25, me (MP) and the SB have 200bb (50euro)

UTG limps, I pot with AAT3 to 1.1, CO folds, BTN folds, SB pots to about 3.7 euro, everybody folds, I pot to 11 euro, SB calls

Flop (pot 23 euro, 40 euro behind): 42T

SB checks, I pot (with SPR 2), SB shuvs, I call

SB shows KK42 for bottom 2 pair.

Lost the pot. Don't think there was anything I could do but was surprised to find out that, even against 2 pair otf, I was still flipping.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: T42
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
KK4253.23% 319,3600
AAT346.77% 280,6400


Tomorrow I'll take some time to study some more and regain my confidence Hopefully the next session will go a bit better.

Yeah even against 42xx or 4Txx, 2Txx, your hand still has a ton of equity and its a clear GII on flop to maximize fold equity

WP

Keep updating progress and start taking stabs at plo50
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06-21-2016 , 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 14nd3r
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It's like the perfect flop even. Given the SPR, you can go broke on the vast majority of the flops.

Good luck - PLO swings are tough to handle.
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06-21-2016 , 06:46 AM
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It's like the perfect flop even. Given the SPR, you can go broke on the vast majority of the flops.

Good luck - PLO swings are tough to handle.
Yeah I was very happy to gii otf ^^ I just meant that I was surprised I had this much equity Given we have 7 direct outs (2xA, 2xT and 3x3) I would've thought it'd only be about 30%.
Tnks!
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06-21-2016 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 14nd3r
Yeah I was very happy to gii otf ^^ I just meant that I was surprised I had this much equity Given we have 7 direct outs (2xA, 2xT and 3x3) I would've thought it'd only be about 30%.
Tnks!
Seems weird at first but when you look at it, any turn give you plenty of added outs. Would be fun to see how much backdoor flush and backdoor better two pairs (e.g. Q turn Q river) give you. Plus, A is a prefect out (he draws dead turn if you hit it) and even with a turn K, 4 or 2, you're still alive.
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06-21-2016 , 11:44 AM
Got a little payback against the player who took the 400bb pot from me in an interesting hand:

PLO25, 100bb effective, villain is a reg.

villain raises pot from utg, it folds to me in the SB with KQQ9, I 3bet to 2.4 euro, bb folds, he calls. We're heads up.

flop (pot 5.5, SPR 4): 995

I cbet half pot, villain calls

turn (pot 11, SPR 2): 6

I thought this would be a decent hand to x/r ai to balance for the times I have AA**/AKK* here that have to check turn.

I check, villain bets 5 euro, I shuv with trips and a backup FD, he calls.

Villain had
Spoiler:
AKJ9ss


River is
Spoiler:
and I win the pot with a flush


Any feedback is welcome Think it's the right play against his range, the only thing I'm not sure about is if I should always 3bet this pf against an utg opener.

Last edited by 14nd3r; 06-21-2016 at 11:54 AM.
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06-22-2016 , 10:01 AM
Interesting multiway deepstacked hand I just played:

Reads:

The BB is a nit
The UTG player is an active reg that likes to put pressure, calls 3bets very often with single suited hands because he knows people tend to get married to AA and tries to either outflop or take the pot away later.

Stacksizes:

PLO25 table ; 5 handed

UTG (active reg): 400 bb
MP: 90 bb
BTN (me): 220 bb
SB: 100 bb
BB (the nit): 40 bb

The hand:

UTG opens 0.85, MP calls 0.85, I call 0.85 with 4867, SB calls 0.85, BB pots to 5.10, UTG calls 5.10, MP calls 5.10, I call 5.10, SB calls 5.10.

I called because of pot odds and the fact that the whole table is floating the clear AA from the BB.

Flop (pot 25 euro, i have 50 euro behind): 45K

UTG donks pot, MP shuvs for the remainder of his stack, I shuv, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Thoughts? I don't have much experience playing deepstacked. Should our reasoning be more like "we get good odds, ship it" or more like "we only invested 5 euro and this sh*t's going multiway, best get out while we can".

Feedback from the SSPLO forum @ http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/38...ut-fd-1616101/



Bankroll: 1099
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