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08-13-2014 , 10:38 PM
I agree do what you feel like doing but don't always blow off your friends to play poker. A previous poster was right, they will stop calling. Unless you don't really care about their friendship in which case make better friends who have similar hobbies.
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08-14-2014 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
Do whatever you feel like doing IMO.
so much This.

You can't make everyone happy, so do what makes yourself happy.
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08-14-2014 , 10:41 AM
Pfffft, way too much value being placed on human interaction itt.

You guys are acting like an invite to go drinking downtown is top set when really it's a non nut flush draw at best.
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08-14-2014 , 11:24 AM
Sub'd. Also I think balance in life > poker
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08-14-2014 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bip!
Obv answer is obv... sell drugs at the club. Boom! Income and nightlife
More obvious answer is get friends into poker hobby so that you can hang out with them *and* stack their asses every night. Win/win.

Seriously, agree with the balance point of view. Even though a night out with friends is sometimes overrated and can end up a little lame, it can't be undervalued either. Right now you're young and have an abundance of everything (a passion for poker, a giggle of girlfriends to go out with, etc.), but as you get older both of these things will diminish, so don't take either for granted.

Ga"giggle"isagroupofgirls,Idefinedthattermmyself G
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08-14-2014 , 01:39 PM
.. wish I had a giggle...
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08-14-2014 , 02:40 PM
dont you have a wife
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08-14-2014 , 03:12 PM
A wife is the opposite of a giggle bruh
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08-14-2014 , 03:32 PM
i'd rather have a wife
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08-14-2014 , 04:35 PM
Pretty sure a group of wives is known as a "grumble".

Let's hijack snowball's thread and make it the new LLSNL low content thread! Especially since we're talking about hair products in the other one.

Gjk,happilymarriedmanG
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08-14-2014 , 04:38 PM
Lol
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08-14-2014 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
i'd rather have a wife
No.


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Pretty sure a group of wives is known as a "grumble".

Let's hijack snowball's thread and make it the new LLSNL low content thread! Especially since we're talking about hair products in the other one.

Gjk,happilymarriedmanG
Hijack HELL YEAH!

I thought a group of single hotties was a" giggity. "
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08-14-2014 , 08:07 PM
just deleted my low content post, which is a shame because it contained some awesome sexism.


Snowy, you're at the point of your life when most people start rationalising their friends anyway. (don't mean that to sound patronising) but early/mid 20s is a time when most people break away from larger groups to smaller ones, including relationships but also more deeper friendships, as work = less time for a wide array of social activities, less things in common with some college/high school friends, bigger geography between them etc.

possible that some of the people you're dropping to play poker are gonna be dropped as part of this natural cull anyway and some of them will start breaking away to do their thing/get involved with relationship type things themselves

pro tip would be to proactively organise nights out/events with your closest friends at the places/doing the things you are super interested in yourself at regular intervals. That will make it more +ev for you to choose them over poker as well.

Would also think you don't need to sweat it too much - your enthusiasm will go in peaks and troughs. Right now, you're on an upswing, moving up in steaks, learning, improving etc. It's no wonder that you're trying to squeeze every moment out of poker. More than likely there'll be plateaus in energy and enthusiasm if/when it becomes less new and exciting etc and the nights out will become more appealing again
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08-15-2014 , 11:56 PM
Well playing some 5/T tonight with no good regs on the table. Stradde is on so actually playing 10/20. #nopressure
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08-16-2014 , 12:04 AM
Feely - sexist low content post pls, who wants to read insightful life advice anyways

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08-16-2014 , 01:00 PM
Uneventful 7 hours 5/T (with some 5/T/20 mixed in) session last night. Up about a buy in. This is the biggest pot I played:

QQ from the big blind

Utg raises to 35. Next guy 3bets to 140. Folds around H calls in BB with QQ. Utg says he has a nice hand and also calls. Eff 1300.

Flop ($420): 984r. H checks, UTG donk bets 240. The UTG+1 3 bettor folds. H calls.

Turn ($900): K clubs flush draw. Check check

River ($900): 4o. Check check. V shows A9dd MHIG

I thought about thin value bet on the river because when UTG said he had a nice hand, I thought he might have had a suited or connector type of hand that hit the 8 or 9 on the flop (or if he had both 89, he just got counterfeited on the river - but 89 is pretty much impossible to have here).

However given that I cold called an early 3bet from the BB, and check called on that rainbow flop (recently Ive ran into a lot of scenarios where I cold called a 3bet from the blinds, which is kind of annoying because your range becomes so narrow), there isnt much he can call with if I bet on the river. I thought I'd check/call and let him try to either bluff at it with JT/JQ/67 type hands, or value own himself by betting too thin (which surprisingly a lot of rec players still do, even in higher stake games, where it makes no sense to bet the river when they are never getting called by worse and rarely folding out better.

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Disclaimer: my pot math is approximate and may be off by $5-15 dont nag me pls

Last edited by Snowball2; 08-16-2014 at 01:05 PM.
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08-16-2014 , 01:14 PM
Gotta put him on exactly TT/JJ and gotta vbet dat rivah when he checks turn

How many combos of value hands does he have and how many combos of draws. Then how often does he sigh call his value hands, bet his value hands, or bet his missed draws otr.

It's like 100% he calls $300 otr with JJ/TT, 10% he bets river with worse value, 30% he bets with missed draw. Or whatever. You see how you can play around with it and create sensitivities.

Live Villains major leak is calling too much. Not bluffing too much. (Even at the higher stakes) We exploit this leak by prison raping them for value.
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08-16-2014 , 02:57 PM
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Gotta put him on exactly TT/JJ and gotta vbet dat rivah when he checks turn

How many combos of value hands does he have and how many combos of draws. Then how often does he sigh call his value hands, bet his value hands, or bet his missed draws otr.

It's like 100% he calls $300 otr with JJ/TT, 10% he bets river with worse value, 30% he bets with missed draw. Or whatever. You see how you can play around with it and create sensitivities.

Live Villains major leak is calling too much. Not bluffing too much. (Even at the higher stakes) We exploit this leak by prison raping them for value.
I thought about TT/JJ but then given his preflop comment i didnt think he was that strong.

Counting combos is def something i need to work on. Right now I just approximate them because i dont like being in the tank for forever on the table - i can probably be very off though.
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08-16-2014 , 03:38 PM
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Gotta put him on exactly TT/JJ and gotta vbet dat rivah when he checks turn

How many combos of value hands does he have and how many combos of draws. Then how often does he sigh call his value hands, bet his value hands, or bet his missed draws otr.

It's like 100% he calls $300 otr with JJ/TT, 10% he bets river with worse value, 30% he bets with missed draw. Or whatever. You see how you can play around with it and create sensitivities.

Live Villains major leak is calling too much. Not bluffing too much. (Even at the higher stakes) We exploit this leak by prison raping them for value.
Obviously depends on preflop/flop ranges but with these proposed river numbers river would be a fistpump check.

I would usually just raise flop though.
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08-16-2014 , 03:50 PM
Not sure how you arrive at that conclusion when draw combos are not defined and bluff sizing also isnt defined; it was just a high level sentence for examples sake...but what I was getting at is they are slim to none with a donk flop / check great turn card to bomb line.

Comes off as results oriented but you know that he has a mid pair here close to always and when river checks he wants cheap showdown.
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08-16-2014 , 04:04 PM
I'll agree with feel wrath, make some time for hanging out and doing fun stuff with friends every week or 2. Poker will always be around. It is all about prioritizing and deciding when poker fits in.
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08-16-2014 , 05:27 PM
I don't like leading the river there with QQ because we have like no bluffs in our range.
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08-16-2014 , 07:10 PM
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Obviously depends on preflop/flop ranges but with these proposed river numbers river would be a fistpump check.

I would usually just raise flop though.
Check raise flop after the pfr 3better folded?

And wait, if he's calling 100% with tt/jj as ava suggested, you would still fistpump check?
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08-19-2014 , 03:33 PM
Taking a break for a few days during this week, then going on two poker trips for the next two weekends , which is a really great way to stay excited for playing because I love traveling! (Even if it's for "work").

The reason I'm taking a break is because i realized that by the 17th of this month, I already clocked over 80 hours this month (which is more than what a lot of full time pros put in), and working like almost 90 hours a week with a bunch of drinking on top is exhausting even though I was happy doing everything.

I skipped gym all last week and did not have much sleep, and have been doing some catching up this week and it feels great .

Im using the down time to put in more hours of studying poker to prepare for the weekend when I start playing again. Am going through some really abstract but important concepts with my coach in the mean time so hopefully when I get back into it Ill have advanced another level!
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08-22-2014 , 07:20 PM
Poker break's over, back to work! Getting back into some 5/T tonight if the game is good.
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