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Old 08-09-2014, 11:14 PM   #126
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Re: Letís do this: young working professional by day, live poker semi-pro by night

Pfftt, girls and math, amirite?

Pot was $815 though, due to the blinds, and 5/T being a time collected game. Nitpicked.
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Old 08-10-2014, 01:43 AM   #127
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Pfftt, girls and math, amirite?

Pot was $815 though, due to the blinds, and 5/T being a time collected game. Nitpicked.
$150 x 2 + $35 + $10 + $5 + $225 x 2.

Nitpick fail.
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Old 08-10-2014, 01:46 AM   #128
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Oh snap, for some odd reason I thought UTG opened to $50. Reading fail indeed. Calculators don't work very often when you put the wrong info in.
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:20 AM   #129
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Forget (wasting $ on) Luminosity. Just practice counting the pot when you're not in a hand as well.

Practice makes perfect.
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:55 AM   #130
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I didnt think he'd call a $50 utg raise preflop then a 3bet HU (when utg wasnt very deep either) with something that hit the flop except for maaybe 99.
There is a flaw in the logic of your thinking here.

Also simple arithmetic is hella hard. This is coming from someone who builds financial regression models for a Fortune 50.
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Old 08-10-2014, 01:34 PM   #131
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There is a flaw in the logic of your thinking here.

Also simple arithmetic is hella hard. This is coming from someone who builds financial regression models for a Fortune 50.
If I understand what you are getting at, then the flaw you are pointing out is that if he's likely to setmine with 99 then he's also likely to do it with 55/66, right?

The truth is i was just giving a crappy explanation when i know im just betting the flop and not getting away from the hand because
1) spr is less than 2,
2) the utg raiser's initial raise was huge (5x) and there are a lot of over pairs in his range so im 100% kosher against him, and
3) the guy in the middle is getting a good price to get it in with flush/combo/overcards draw after the first guy folds

Think i shouldve made the 3bet pf bigger - maybe it wouldnt have prevented him from calling with 56s but it wouldve been the better play.
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Old 08-10-2014, 01:40 PM   #132
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Forget (wasting $ on) Luminosity. Just practice counting the pot when you're not in a hand as well.

Practice makes perfect.
Haha yeah i end up discussing hands and going on 2p2 when im not in a hand so although productive, not helpful for practicing math


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$150 x 2 + $35 + $10 + $5 + $225 x 2.

Nitpick fail.
And the accountant steps in to show us what's up
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Old 08-10-2014, 01:52 PM   #133
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Haha yeah i end up discussing hands and going on 2p2 when im not in a hand so although productive, not helpful for practicing math
Fit some practice math in hands too!

You don't have to do it every off hand. Even just once an orbit will be beneficial.
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:54 PM   #134
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Re: Letís do this: young working professional by day, live poker semi-pro by night

Numbers is hard.
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:54 PM   #135
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MDL weekend trip TR

Just finished my trip to MDL for the weekend. Got to see a whole bunch of people I met in vegas so that was nice. One thing that's def awesome about poker is the traveling opportunities that come with it - cuz let's be honest, when would i ever travel to hanover, maryland? .

I played my first 5/T sessions ever this trip. It's pretty exciting because only about three months ago I was playing 1/2 & 1/3 still, and I gradually moved up to 2/5, 5/5, and now 5/T since then with great results along the way while still being properly rolled .



Mmm.. cheesecake factory

Mini chippr0n at 5/T, not bad for a first timer huh? Will def aim to beat this next time (From $1200, in 6 hours no double up)


Did some sightseeing in Baltimore after


Just had to visit the aquarium because I <3 animals and shyt



Found out maryland is actually great for seafood, which makes me oh-so happy
Crab pretzels OM NOM NOM


I had a wonderful time and of course some run good helped! Looking forward to visit again because the games were goooood.
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Old 08-11-2014, 12:02 AM   #136
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How much cheesecake did you buy with stolen blinds from 5/T snowball? Nice chippr0n, I count $4366 (if greens are in stacks of 20)! Not bad. Making me want to fly up to MD and play there now too....
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:09 AM   #137
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Nice work at the new stake keep it up! Cool pic of the harbor.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:47 AM   #138
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I didnt think he'd call a $50 utg raise preflop then a 3bet HU (when utg wasnt very deep either) with something that hit the flop except for maaybe 99.
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If I understand what you are getting at, then the flaw you are pointing out is that if he's likely to setmine with 99 then he's also likely to do it with 55/66, right?
No. Listen to what you are saying. You are saying that once you 3bet pre, then bet 70% of pot otf, well he won't have much except the nuts and strong draws when he c/rai with zero fe. And I'd have to agree with you.

You should be terrified when the non preflop aggressor suddenly becomes aggressive in a 3bet pot...as villains play much more straightforward in them.

Also realize that draws become significantly less likely in 3bet pots. Basically he's never taking this line with TT-QQ. So you are up against sets, 78s, and likely UTG flat + 3bet flat draw combos, which would be like AQ, QJ, JT

I think the biggest error in this HH is your flop sizing which is huge and screams I HAVE AA/KK AND IM NEVER FOLDING. Even QQ/JJ have an easy fold at this point so you fold out all dominated hard equity hands and get raped by all nuts/combo draws.

I think with checking back or gay betting would be far superior. Like if I bet $190 or $210 I'd be much happier getting it in vs. a c/r. Because vs a smaller continuation bet villains c/r frequency is larger. Put another way, villain is more likely to c/r 77 here as a bluff when we bet $190. When we bet $380 we greatly reduce their c/r bluff frequency. When I bet $380 and get c/r I know that if I get it in I'm praying to see exactly QJ. And praying to be at best 60% is usually bad.

$190 would also be much easier to swallow for TT-QQ which is what we should be targeting value from UTG's range.

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I dont think i can ever get away on that board with not too much behind, I didnt have the As so the nut flush draw was def out there.
Balugawhale wrote some really good material on the logic of getting overpairs AI on super wet boards because "lol all the draws"
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Old 08-13-2014, 04:04 PM   #139
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How much cheesecake did you buy with stolen blinds from 5/T snowball? Nice chippr0n, I count $4366 (if greens are in stacks of 20)! Not bad. Making me want to fly up to MD and play there now too....
Two slices, but ate like 1/4 of one in total.
Game was pretty good, by the end of the night when I said I was hating myself for leaving, no jokes I was the best player at the table (it's really not saying much though, which exactly proves my point)


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Nice work at the new stake keep it up! Cool pic of the harbor.
Thanks will try!


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No. Listen to what you are saying. You are saying that once you 3bet pre, then bet 70% of pot otf, well he won't have much except the nuts and strong draws when he c/rai with zero fe. And I'd have to agree with you.

You should be terrified when the non preflop aggressor suddenly becomes aggressive in a 3bet pot...as villains play much more straightforward in them.

Also realize that draws become significantly less likely in 3bet pots. Basically he's never taking this line with TT-QQ. So you are up against sets, 78s, and likely UTG flat + 3bet flat draw combos, which would be like AQ, QJ, JT

I think the biggest error in this HH is your flop sizing which is huge and screams I HAVE AA/KK AND IM NEVER FOLDING. Even QQ/JJ have an easy fold at this point so you fold out all dominated hard equity hands and get raped by all nuts/combo draws.

I think with checking back or gay betting would be far superior. Like if I bet $190 or $210 I'd be much happier getting it in vs. a c/r. Because vs a smaller continuation bet villains c/r frequency is larger. Put another way, villain is more likely to c/r 77 here as a bluff when we bet $190. When we bet $380 we greatly reduce their c/r bluff frequency. When I bet $380 and get c/r I know that if I get it in I'm praying to see exactly QJ. And praying to be at best 60% is usually bad.

$190 would also be much easier to swallow for TT-QQ which is what we should be targeting value from UTG's range.



Balugawhale wrote some really good material on the logic of getting overpairs AI on super wet boards because "lol all the draws"
Thanks for your response. I think the guy in between was definitely the one I have to worry about. I guess I didnt want to bet so little and to have the pfr call wider, pricing the second guy in also wider. I think getting two folds on the flop was probably as much money as I could've hoped to make - felt like it was a spot of either I win that or get stacked lol. From what you are saying though, I gather that there is no way you are getting away from the hand either? I questioned myself a bunch about bet folding the flop afterwards because I'm pretty much playing face up.
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Old 08-13-2014, 04:48 PM   #140
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So i have this dilemma re: work-life balance.

I've been super motivated to put in hours recently, and have found that it's so hard when people around you wants to make plans for days that are prime grinding hours. (Well, since I work 60+ hours a week, I dont really have much free time so it's either friends or poker outside of the day time job).

I'm often so torn between going out or playing poker. I know money isnt everything in life but it's nice to have more of right now. Plus sometimes when I know the night out is just going to be senseless drinking/clubbing, I just feel like I want to do something more productive instead.

I feel super lame flaking out on friends to go sit in a casino but I also get that with poker what you put in is what you get out.

WWYD?
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:10 PM   #141
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Snowball, I would balance it out. One week poker, one week friends. What do you do that requires u to work 60+ a week?
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:25 PM   #142
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Snowball, I would balance it out. One week poker, one week friends. What do you do that requires u to work 60+ a week?
Ah my day job is about 45 hours, then I do about 25 hours of poker on top of that/week.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:25 PM   #143
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Obv answer is obv... sell drugs at the club. Boom! Income and nightlife
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:26 PM   #144
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I see, well I would just take a day off for friends. I dunno how you can put so much hours into live poker with a full time job. The last thing I want to do is play poker after a day's work.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:34 PM   #145
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Obv answer is obv... sell drugs at the club. Boom! Income and nightlife
LoL i would be the worst dealer ever





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I see, well I would just take a day off for friends. I dunno how you can put so much hours into live poker with a full time job. The last thing I want to do is play poker after a day's work.
Yeah prop's open re: how long before i burn out and this thread sinks to the bottom of page gazillion.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:38 PM   #146
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Lol I think I still have some of that cheesecake. It's so rich I can't eat more than a few bites at a time.
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Old 08-13-2014, 06:22 PM   #147
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LoL i would be the worst dealer ever
She would take all of them
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:20 PM   #148
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I'm pretty sure most people at my work DO think I'm a drug dealer because of this exact conversation.

(I flake out on clubbing/nights out etc.). There's actually a running joke I'm a serial killer bc I remind them of the character Dexter Morgan.

Still think society's rankings would be drug dealer > serial killer > poker player

Truth is I'd flake anyway because I'm pretty past clubbing and like my me time anyways.

I'd say be sure to never choose poker over people that are special to you in your life. Other than that, meh.

The burn out will come. It always does. Depends on how you handle it. I remember being a chipper young pup wanting MOAR.
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So i have this dilemma re: work-life balance.

I've been super motivated to put in hours recently, and have found that it's so hard when people around you wants to make plans for days that are prime grinding hours. (Well, since I work 60+ hours a week, I dont really have much free time so it's either friends or poker outside of the day time job).

I'm often so torn between going out or playing poker. I know money isnt everything in life but it's nice to have more of right now. Plus sometimes when I know the night out is just going to be senseless drinking/clubbing, I just feel like I want to do something more productive instead.

I feel super lame flaking out on friends to go sit in a casino but I also get that with poker what you put in is what you get out.

WWYD?
If you continually blow off friends who want to go out, eventually they'll stop calling.





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I'm pretty sure most people at my work DO think I'm a drug dealer because of this exact conversation.

(I flake out on clubbing/nights out etc.). There's actually a running joke I'm a serial killer bc I remind them of the character Dexter Morgan.

Still think society's rankings would be drug dealer > serial killer > poker player

Truth is I'd flake anyway because I'm pretty past clubbing and like my me time anyways.

I'd say be sure to never choose poker over people that are special to you in your life. Other than that, meh.

The burn out will come. It always does. Depends on how you handle it. I remember being a chipper young pup wanting MOAR.
Lol, you're not a young chipper pup any more?

I would probably hang out with drug dealer / serial killer / poker player in that order as well. Serial killer maybe higher if I knew I wasn't about to get serial killed.
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Do whatever you feel like doing IMO.
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