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Old 08-04-2014, 07:22 AM   #101
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Re: Let’s do this: young working professional by day, live poker semi-pro by night

hand one - he had A3 of spades?
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:28 AM   #102
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Re: Let’s do this: young working professional by day, live poker semi-pro by night

Wow. Those are some very solid hand histories. Your sizing is superb.

Hand 5 shows why live poker is so exploitable and why being largely unbalanced is optimal.
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:41 AM   #103
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Taking chip pics are for the immature and childish anyway.

Last hand how confident were you on shoving the river?

I think I just didnt want to believe she had quads but I was not surprised at showdown. I knew her call-3bet range is JJ - AKs. She could bluff one street with AKs but i think she will check behind on the river when it bricked. So that leaves KK/QQ in her range that I'm good against. KK she prob 4 bet preflop. QQ she probably bet the flop or also check behind on the river with a lot of show down value because I'm not calling with worse. THUS i should just be calling the river in case I run into JJ/TT.

It makes a lot of sense now, but during the hand I was just like yeah she must have QQ! Crai for max value! Lol


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hand one - he had A3 of spades?
Yup was a stone cold bluff drawing to 2 outs with the ace or runner wheel. He said he thought he could get me off TPGK type hands like KT but i just would never play KT/KJ that way.



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Completely unwanted & unqualified hand analysis from me :

2. Love the flop lead multiway. Turn seems super obvious given that lagtard can have a ton of dominated K's, suited or not.

if he hasnt been such a lagtard then i thought the turn raise was pretty nutty because Im repping trips 100% of the time, i would never try to blast him off the turn with a flush draw and the board makes it hard for me to have an overpair for value (only AA possible) there. I was hoping to have ran into a slow played worse Kx (hopefully not coolered by a FH) or a flush draw but he was just spewy trying to rep waaay way too thin.

In retrospect I wonder if I just called and checked the river, if he would just continue his line and ship the river. On a double flush draw board though there are too many sketchy river cards and I think id be too chicken to not get it in on the turn.


3. Seems like a tough calldown vs an unknown and deep, especially since V could have had 8hXh on flop. Obvious soul read situation. Given that live players frequently instinctively slow play trips, I like your play.

I actually thought it makes no sense for him to have a value hand there - two pairs+ will probably raise the flop because there are 3 people behind him left to act, and he would be unlikely to call with just bottom pair. 8hXh is possible but I thought he's likely to CRAI on the turn with that because Im most likely betting the blank turn card when checked to, instead of leading out that strong which will probably fold most of my Kx.

4. On river, in a way, we are near the top, or even have a better hand than V should perceive us to have (He is a lagTARD though). Still folding to the overshove, the main draw is there and it's hard for him not to have showdown value (he wouldn't turn showdown value into a bluff when we LDO have AK here right?). I would like to debate the merits of checking the flop with people. Such a hard board to hit or peel, we may as well just give him maximum impetus to bluff/value own himself.

Since I 3bet pf, I'm betting the flop there to protect my bluff cbet range - it's short handed so history is esp important. I have generally showed down a pretty strong range against him (he's pretty much the biggest cash cow for me whenever hes at my table) and exactly like you said I think he check/calls something with show down value if he thinks i was cbetting air. I just havent seen him showing down an overbet bluff yet (if it was a bluff then it wouldve been pretty profitable for him to show it because it would increase my call %.

6. I prob just fold OOP and 100BB deep. Turn play is glorious, as dummy weak tight player is turning his hand face up as [JJ, TT, 99] and giving us an opportunity to blast him off his hand. He wouldn't bet AQ/KK/AA like this with that backdoor draw out there! And he only has 3 combos of monsters in QQ.

Yeah preflop was def debatable. I thought the flop cbet was pretty standard for him and the board doesnt really hit him. I am likely ahead and have a bunch of good turn cards. Raising the flop wouldnt make sense, but CR the turn there would be pretty strong, given that it's kind of a scary card against some who called from the blinds, and that his turn bet was so weak it seems to be a defensive bet rather than for value. Plus even if he did get sticky with a Q, i picked up additional outs on the turn.

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Old 08-04-2014, 12:06 PM   #104
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Re: Let’s do this: young working professional by day, live poker semi-pro by night

How did I miss this for a month? How's the corporate gig?
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:06 PM   #105
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hand 4, why 3-bet if you feel you cant keep going for value on turn and river with TP2K?

hand 7, no flop bet?

and i agree with ava. looks like you're playing really well. all i can say is don't let it get to your head and start going on winners tilt. im probably wrong but the 65o hand seems like you might be prone to head in that direction.
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:40 PM   #106
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It makes a lot of sense now, but during the hand I was just like yeah she must have QQ! Crai for max value! Lol
Lol remember when you asked me "you ever just have a feeling that villain has something exactly?"

Don't do that haha.
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Old 08-06-2014, 12:25 AM   #107
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Hand 3 - KQ vs JT hand. What was your plan for the river?

Assume you're calling Q and being coolered but..what about a heart, a 9, a 7?
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:01 PM   #108
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Wow. Those are some very solid hand histories. Your sizing is superb.

Hand 5 shows why live poker is so exploitable and why being largely unbalanced is optimal.
Thanks! Still got lots of tweaking to do.
I remember not too long ago I was betting too much in 3bet/4bet pots, then earlier this month I overcompensated by underbetting too many pots for the sake of balancing or bet/folding
and missed out on value. Now hopefully ill end up at an appropriate middle.




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How did I miss this for a month? How's the corporate gig?
Oh hey! No corporate gig I really dont belong in that environment (tried it hated it) but day job's going pretty good.




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hand 4, why 3-bet if you feel you cant keep going for value on turn and river with TP2K?

hand 7, no flop bet?

and i agree with ava. looks like you're playing really well. all i can say is don't let it get to your head and start going on winners tilt. im probably wrong but the 65o hand seems like you might be prone to head in that direction.
Hand 4 - cbetting was standard to protect my range. Board's pretty dry and i rather call him down in position. He's aggro but not a station so i dont think im gunna get a call from worse - not that he would have that many value hands there, and we are too deep to play with just TP

Hand 7 - to keep her range wide.

65o - i think it's okay to take advantage of a profitable spot - i really dont do stuff like that too often (or it wouldnt have worked! but ive been thinking that it's probably better to have deeper eff stacks


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Hand 3 - KQ vs JT hand. What was your plan for the river?

Assume you're calling Q and being coolered but..what about a heart, a 9, a 7?
He's way too short for me to fold. When I called the turn I already thought about calling a 9, might not be calling a 7, and prob folding a flush (doubt he bets that though unless it also gave him a straight).

I thought about getting it in on the turn too but thought I rather just call down on non dangerous boards because he's pretty much continuing his line otr.

Disclaimer: all above analysis consist of my likely-flawed newbish thinking
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:05 PM   #109
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Going to play at MDL this whole weekend to see what all the talk about how soft it is, is about. Wish me luck!
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:14 PM   #110
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Have fun and kill it out there Snowball! And keep your phone within your reach/vision at all times.
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:57 PM   #111
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Going to play at MDL this whole weekend to see what all the talk about how soft it is, is about. Wish me luck!
Y U come to mdl when LLSNL not there??
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:03 PM   #112
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Y U come to mdl when LLSNL not there??
Lol since when you = LLSNL?
And anyways where's my basement room & board?
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:04 PM   #113
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Have fun and kill it out there Snowball! And keep your phone within your reach/vision at all times.
Yeah. Will try. They say 3rd time's the charm and well.. on my third phone in a month now
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:06 PM   #114
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Lol since when you = LLSNL?
Oh that's cold. There are others vacationing besides me.
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:22 PM   #115
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Re: Let’s do this: young working professional by day, live poker semi-pro by night

Sounds like Snowball has impeccable timing and game selection (or bumhunting) to me, if a lot of LLSNL is on vacation. Now, her arriving on the premises won't make the games softer, but rather tougher!
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Old 08-08-2014, 01:13 PM   #116
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Re: Let’s do this: young working professional by day, live poker semi-pro by night

<3 Hand 6.
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Old 08-09-2014, 05:46 AM   #117
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Played 6 hours of 2/5 at MDL tonight, made a whole bunch, then a bunch of reg/pros left the 5/T so I decided to try it out since it doesnt run at my home casino. I bought in for just 1k (on the 2k max) so it feels closer to the 5/5/T 1k max I play at home - and I was pretty much free rolling from 2/5 which takes some pressure off. The table quickly became short-handed for some reason despite names still being on the list. It was a must move table so I actually ended up playing HU against this pretty laggro bad player for about half an hour (because we paid the time fee already so might as well play it out loool) where he was just hitting every flop, imagine that on your first time moving up in stakes . Nothing too exciting happened and the table broke with me being down about 25bbs. Not a bad intro to 5/T I mean it could be worse haha.
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Grats on a good night Snowball! Any interesting hands from 2/5 or 5/T?
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Grats on a good night Snowball! Any interesting hands from 2/5 or 5/T?
Not really, had no big pots or interesting hands. Going at 5/T again today.
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Good luck! Will be watching for updates from my solitary 5pm-5am weekend job
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Old 08-09-2014, 05:50 PM   #121
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Stacked for $1200 at 5/T

3bet pot with AA 3 way. Im in position. Bet 380 into ~550 on 956ss flop, one of the callers crai and I call with ~600 left into a pot of ~1300. He had 56dd and I bricked.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:04 PM   #122
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Re: Let’s do this: young working professional by day, live poker semi-pro by night

Someone flatted a 15x-17xbb 3bet OOP with 56s when you are only 120bbs deep? Games are dead.

Also I mean yea SPR and whatever but I check back that flop alot. Especially if you have the A
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Someone flatted a 15x-17xbb 3bet OOP with 56s when you are only 120bbs deep? Games are dead.

Also I mean yea SPR and whatever but I check back that flop alot. Especially if you have the A
Dunno he was supposed to be a decent pro too. Maybe lolpotodds?
I dont think i can ever get away on that board with not too much behind, I didnt have the As so the nut flush draw was def out there. I didnt think he'd call a $50 utg raise preflop then a 3bet HU (when utg wasnt very deep either) with something that hit the flop except for maaybe 99.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:57 PM   #124
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Some 5/T hands I just played:

Hand 1:
Straddled $25 pot 7 handed. H raises KJss to 80. One young pro type calls otb. Eff 1200. Flop: 999. Check check. (Should prob cbet here?)
Turn (175): K flush draw. Check. V bets 125. H calls.
River (520): 6o. Check. V bets 375. H calls, V insta mucks.

Hand 2:
H opens 88 for 30. Laggy girl reg calls from MP. Sb calls.Eff about 2100.
Flop (100): TT3r. H bets 55. Girl calls. Sb folds.
Turn (210): T. H checks, V bets 175. H calls.
River (560): check check MHIG.

Hand 3:
Pro opens utg to 35. H calls with AhQh. Button who like to squeeze a lot 3bets to 150. Utg folds. H calls.
Flop (350): TQ8r. H checks. V bets 225. H calls.
Turn (900): 4h (H with TP nut flush draw). H checks, V checks behind.
River (900): 3o. H bets 350. V calls. MHIG.

Okay my problem is clearly not being able to add the pot up correctly. Thought it was 600ish otr but actually a lot more. I should prob get those mental training apps like Luminosity or w/e.

Hand 4:
Young pro type limps utg for 10. Someone calls. H has AKo in MP2 and raises to $50. Utg 3bets to $185. Utg+1 folds. H 4bets to $550. (Eff 1700). V folds.

Making my way back (no doomswitch plspls) from being stacked earlier feeling good and playing decently too!
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Old 08-09-2014, 10:31 PM   #125
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$350 + $450 = $800.

Fail.
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