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Old 10-14-2017, 07:49 PM   #1
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MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

HI anyone reading this. (hopefully someone)


I am a microstakes player. Not sure how long I've been playing started sometime in 2017 so I'm still learning and improving each time I play.
I will be posting my progress, As I hopefully move through the microstakes ranks starting at 2NL.

Main Goals -

1. Play solid poker and keep learning and improving my play.

2. Move through the ranks stating at 2NL and moving up when I have 30 BI's for the next stakes and move back down if I loss 15 BI's.

I don't want to put time frames on when to move up stakes. I think that will just add unnecessary pressure and won't help my game, so I will just let my bankroll decide the stakes I play.

That's all for now, I'm not too sure where I will end up but lets find out.

Feel free to ask if you have any questions.


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Old 10-15-2017, 06:52 PM   #2
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Re: MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

Update

So I've just played my first session. It was a bit of a frustrating one. One of those sessions where nothing seems to hit and it seems like your allways folding.

I did make one annoying mistake. I'll post the hand down below, I did think I was beat but I called anyway out of frustrating. I had QQs four times before this hand and had to fold them all.

That's all for now.

Session result. 1690 hands - 0.47 BB/100




PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $1.04 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (SB): $2.39
BB: $2.10
UTG: $2.00 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 2)
MP: $4.30 (VPIP: 16.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 25)
CO: $0.97

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.12, 2 players) T 8 2
Hero bets $0.08, BB calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.28, 2 players) 4
Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

River: ($0.68, 2 players) 3
Hero bets $0.44, BB raises to $1.76 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.32

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Old 10-16-2017, 03:27 AM   #3
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Re: MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

not a terrible mistake on that hand, any opponent reads would be useful here
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Old 10-16-2017, 04:27 AM   #4
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Re: MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

Subbed and GL!

Hear what you're saying about the session when nothing hits etc, but we can't always run like a god...

Anyway good luck and I'll be following!
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Old 10-20-2017, 06:53 AM   #5
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Re: MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

Just an update I plan on updating weekly with the weeks results.

Heres a quick one over the last couple of days I've play ok and manager to get up about about 3.5 BI's all good. But just now in about 600 hands I've tilted them away plus more so I'm down about 4.5 BI's. So annoyed with myself for paying people off when I know I'm beat. I get tilted more knowing I should fold, its frustrating knowing I knew the right thing to do.

So I know this is a terrible idea but I'm going back on now to redeem myself.

Any good tips for tilt / implementing things you know. (like folding when you know your beat)
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Old 10-20-2017, 08:04 AM   #6
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Re: MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

Take a lot of breaks. Like, play 30 minutes, take a 5-10 minute break and then start again. Also, study more. Studying and proving just how bad some of those loose calls are will make you happy to fold. Don't know how many tables of zoom you play, but if it's 4 play less. Think about villains range in every spot, even the ones you think are a no-brainer. That's a big one for me. I have a tendency to make decisions too quickly, and like you, regret them. So, rather than train your brain to not think (and therefor not think in big pots as well) train it to think about every spot. Basically, just slow everything down and think more. That kind of stuff has helped me (I think).
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Old 10-20-2017, 03:27 PM   #7
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Re: MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

Folding an overpair against a capped range is probably a mathematical catastrophe, but......

That 1 hand you posted is classic micros. It's not like the old days, you have to fold rivers against that action with over pairs at this level. They just don't bluff enough. They will just call with all Tx and 8x holdings.


Generally, i wouldn't expect to see T2 a lot but sets and 2 pairs are likely.

You may have got some long term value, like if he calls a 3x with T2s, he's probably calling too much and maybe a timing tell with his calls? Also, he's not raised, he's just called you down until the river so if you see him raising on earlier streets with mostly draws and playing passively when he misses - then you should be able to exploit him if you end up on his left then next day or something.

As it goes, I think you can go smaller on all streets cos it's a fairly dry flop.
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Old 10-20-2017, 06:36 PM   #8
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Re: MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

With the hand I posted above there weren't any tells and I didn't have many hands on them. I just need to remember that river raises at these levels are normally going to be for value more often then not.

Soo back to today, Where do I start? well I kept playing went down about 7 BI's and then got back to about -2.5 and called it a day.(the graphs below)
I've really worked hard on my game lately and controlling tilt has been a part of that but today just seems like a big step backwards. I thought the crazy tilt days were over.

I like the advice above about taking regular breaks from playing and that's something I'm going to do moving forward. Also the bit about rush decisions is a good point and is something I do.

So moving forward I'm going to play sort focused sessions 500 hands then break. On big hands I'm going to make sure I use my time bank to give myself time to think the hand over. Do people think these are good or bad ideas?


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Old 10-22-2017, 05:23 PM   #9
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Re: MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

Learning to fold, it's something I've struggled with but I think I might be improving this part of my game. What do people make of these folds, I'm posting these because the bigger pocket pairs all ways seem harder to fold.

First hand : No player history or notes.


    Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37854762

    BTN: $2.38 (119 bb)
    Hero (SB): $2.03 (101.5 bb)
    BB: $2 (100 bb)
    UTG: $4.72 (236 bb)
    MP: $2.81 (140.5 bb)
    CO: $2.06 (103 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
    2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB folds, CO calls $0.14

    Flop: ($0.42) 2 J T (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.18, CO raises to $0.41, Hero calls $0.23

    Turn: ($1.24) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $1.45 and is all-in, Hero folds

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    Old 10-22-2017, 05:27 PM   #10
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    Second hand : Again no player history or notes.

    Looking at this hand again maybe I should of called this river. villain could of been check raising a flush draw on the flop.



      Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37854763

      BTN: $2 (100 bb)
      SB: $2.27 (113.5 bb)
      BB: $2.06 (103 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $2.34 (117 bb)
      MP: $2.03 (101.5 bb)
      CO: $2.97 (148.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with A A
      Hero raises to $0.05, MP folds, CO calls $0.05, 3 folds

      Flop: ($0.13) 7 8 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.08, CO raises to $0.23, Hero calls $0.15

      Turn: ($0.59) T (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks

      River: ($0.59) 2 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.34, Hero folds

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      Old 10-22-2017, 05:53 PM   #11
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      Re: MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

      I think the 2nd hand is a call because you have counterfeited all the 2 pair combos, beat bluffs and a chunk of his value range.

      Last edited by ABdeVilliers; 10-22-2017 at 05:56 PM. Reason: typo
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      Old 10-26-2017, 08:05 AM   #12
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      Re: MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

      So things haven't really been working out the way I thought they would. since starting this so called challenge. That big tilt session last week had a big impact I think.

      So I took a small break and though about it and its something I'll continue to work on. I need to just keep in mind that if I start feeling tilted I need to stop because it only affects me and my progress.
      What I'm finding helpful is making sure I always have a reason for the decision I'm making. Even if I make a wrong decision at least I was thinking. I can then think about what a should of done different or post the hand here for feed back. So I know at least I can learn something from the hand, instead of just thinking I've just wasted that BI.
      This seems to be a better way of thinking and seems to help with tilt.


      Challenge so for

      Hands : 11 851
      BB/100 : -1.82
      Bankroll : -4.32

      So as you can see not the best start but I'll take the positives moving forward at least I'm learning.

      that's all for now.
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      Old 10-26-2017, 08:53 AM   #13
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      Quote:
      Folding an overpair against a capped range is probably a mathematical catastrophe, but......
      If you are referring to the QQ hand 1 you need to be more precise with your terminology. Villains range is capped preflop for sure, but post flop it is very clearly not capped at all. And when villain raises river (which is the only time hero can fold as played) villains range is polarised, not capped in the slightest.

      Op

      Every time you bet and villain calls you strengthen villains range. On a flop of...

      T82 rainbow

      ... even villains flop call should be raising a warning sign in your thinking. What is his flop calling range (that would not 3bet pre), that you can bet for value

      Tx combos
      J9s combos
      sometimes JJ (but often this will be 3bet pre and/or flop raised)
      and some underpairs, overcards and gutshots.

      On the turn 4 (total brick)

      What of the flop calling range above continues when you bet biggish on the turn. Answer - practically nothing.

      So why would you value bet river (on another brick) when there almost nothing left in villains range to get value from???

      Check/call river is a waaayyyy better line in this spot.

      As played the river is a trivial fold, villains bluffing freq is tiny and the only hand you beat that might raise river is a spazzy JJ.

      Other posters will point out that this is 2nl, so villain can show up with all sorts of crap but this poor thinking for three reasons:

      1. The spot you present is played readless versus an unknown; you can't suddenly assume villain is spazzy fish to justify your action.

      2. You are playing zoom, which will often be readless, so if you wish to progress up the ranks you must develop a optimal range based strategy from day one.

      3. you want to be thinking player, not a button prodder, so you need to be thinking about every decision you make, not just...

      "I haz overpair, I bet pot"

      GL

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      Old 10-28-2017, 08:14 PM   #14
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      Re: MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

      Feeling a bit **** today. I started this thread to improve my game and hopefully help me make some progress. But since starting I seem to be playing worst and its really frustrating.

      I've been reviewing hands and learning what I can. And in general I don't think I'm a terrible player. (I know your probably thinking he's crazy, can't even beat 2NL and he thinks he plays ok)

      It just seems one step forward and two back. Like every session, I seem to pay someone off and it costs me my hole sessions work.
      I can take a bad beat or running below EV because I know that I'm not really down and over time doing the same plays I will be up.

      What's holding up my progress is my own mistakes and that's why its so frustrating I think.

      I guess all I can do is keep reviewing the hands to keep seeing the same spots over and over until I sinks in.

      A small plus is I seem to be controlling tilt a little better, at least the last few sessions, still a work in progress though.

      No point in bull****ting here and only posting the good bits. that's all for now.

      Help meee ....................
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      Old 11-05-2017, 06:57 PM   #15
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      Just a quick update.

      Things seems to be improving. The shorter sessions are making a difference I feel. I've been playing 500 hands then having a break and that seems to be working good for now. Yesterday is a good example, I played a few sessions with the breaks and I was playing good but then on my last session. I was like oh I'm playing well today might as well extend this session. Big mistake ! I quickly went from playing my A game to my B C D .... you get it. Which was tilting But I did manage to stop before any major damage was done. So I did tilt a bit but it was a much calmer tilt and I also stopped playing so I guess that's progress.

      I've posted a few hands in the micro stake forum here and that's been very helpful to get others views and ideas. Which will be useful for future hands.

      Challenge so for
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      Old 11-05-2017, 07:54 PM   #16
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      Re: MR ABC POKER - STARTING AT THE BOTTOM

      Missed the numbers off.

      Challenge so for


      Hands : 22.811
      BB/100 : 2.11
      Bankroll : +9.63
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