Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Poker Goals & Challenges Post your threads logging your travels up the poker ladder as you achieve your poker goals and dreams. "Challenges" does NOT mean prop bets, wagers, etc.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-12-2017, 12:40 PM   #2401
Brokenstars
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Brokenstars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Check out my PGC!!!
Posts: 9,798
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

Thanks Arty
Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2017, 12:57 PM   #2402
Avaritia
Confirmed 2500 hour haver
 
Avaritia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Dante's Inferno
Posts: 8,612
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

If i challenge your graph will you live sweat me?

If so

Spoiler:


If not

Spoiler:
Avaritia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2017, 03:05 PM   #2403
Brokenstars
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Brokenstars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Check out my PGC!!!
Posts: 9,798
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

lol
Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2017, 05:30 PM   #2404
de_man
old hand
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: London
Posts: 1,289
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly View Post
In the 200NL graph posted in #2355, OP was 4 BI above EV just before the 25,000 hand mark. 20,000 hands later, he was below EV for the sample. There's nothing shocking or unreal about that. Over an arbitrary sample size, you might run close to EV, or somewhat far from it. OP randomly happened to run fairly close to EV in these samples. People with lower winrates (but the same standard deviation) will have graphs that look swingier though
My whole point has been that between, say hands 26k & 36k of the graph in #2355, he doesn't deviate more than half a buyin from EV. It isnt the high winrate or large sample size that makes it look like he's running insanely close to EV....he genuinely is improbably close to EV for a sustained length of time. There's barely enough deviation to account for running AK into QQ once in 10k hands.

Did he take take every hand to a non-allin showdown? Did he never get it in as a 20/80, & win? Or an 80/20, & lose? Did he never shove a FD & get called?

Whatever, not gunna derail the mans thread any more, mainly because....

1) As I've already said several times, I think Brokenstars is a v.good player. I remember his name (I dont remember many) from when I was more regular in the Microstakes forums a few years back & it was obvious even then that he was good. Gotta be careful who u listen to in poker because you'll get advice from, & talked down to by fish (irony alert), so it pays to know who the good posters are

2) Therefore, I dont think he's doctored this intentionally because he doesnt need to

3) I'll just end up repeating myself, & possibly calling someone out for a HU match
de_man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2017, 07:08 PM   #2405
Brokenstars
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Brokenstars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Check out my PGC!!!
Posts: 9,798
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

I'm not concerned. Hit up the twitch though if you want.
Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2017, 06:46 AM   #2406
Brokenstars
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Brokenstars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Check out my PGC!!!
Posts: 9,798
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

I've reset my computer because I was having issues with some things and didn't back up all my hh. Will only have hands after 09/07 now.

Also withdrawing 2k.
Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2017, 09:34 PM   #2407
Brokenstars
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Brokenstars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Check out my PGC!!!
Posts: 9,798
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

https://www.twitch.tv/brokenstars666/dashboard
Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2017, 11:28 PM   #2408
Brokenstars
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Brokenstars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Check out my PGC!!!
Posts: 9,798
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

+$350-390 ish on stream.
Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2017, 09:48 PM   #2409
Brokenstars
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Brokenstars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Check out my PGC!!!
Posts: 9,798
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

https://www.twitch.tv/brokenstars666
Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2017, 04:44 AM   #2410
Three_high
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 85
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

I'm in a different time zone, so I'm not watching your streams live but I just wanted to say I've really enjoyed them, find them informative/entertaining, and hope you keep it up. GL!
Three_high is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2017, 07:34 AM   #2411
Bob148
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: takin it to the streets
Posts: 8,914
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

Quote:
Also withdrawing 2k.
Excellent. I hope you enjoy it.
Bob148 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2017, 05:56 PM   #2412
Brokenstars
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Brokenstars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Check out my PGC!!!
Posts: 9,798
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Three_high View Post
I'm in a different time zone, so I'm not watching your streams live but I just wanted to say I've really enjoyed them, find them informative/entertaining, and hope you keep it up. GL!
Awesome, thanks for leaving some love!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob148 View Post
Excellent. I hope you enjoy it.
Yep, going to buy a new computer chair/mic/twitch template
Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2017, 02:32 AM   #2413
Brokenstars
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Brokenstars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Check out my PGC!!!
Posts: 9,798
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

https://www.twitch.tv/brokenstars666/dashboard
Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2017, 04:05 AM   #2414
Brokenstars
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Brokenstars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Check out my PGC!!!
Posts: 9,798
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

-2bi on stream.

Thanks for everyone who came, gn. I'll post hand where I folded TT on KJTL later on.
Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2017, 10:21 AM   #2415
Avaritia
Confirmed 2500 hour haver
 
Avaritia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Dante's Inferno
Posts: 8,612
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars View Post
-2bi on stream.
But wats ur ev line tho
Avaritia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2017, 11:43 PM   #2416
Brokenstars
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Brokenstars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Check out my PGC!!!
Posts: 9,798
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avaritia View Post
But wats ur ev line tho
I'll let De_man answer that one for me
Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2017, 03:19 AM   #2417
meale
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
meale's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 6,515
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

EV(t) = W$(t)+-2.5BI

This is how you can workout brokenstars ev line at any time.
meale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2017, 07:19 AM   #2418
Brokenstars
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Brokenstars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Check out my PGC!!!
Posts: 9,798
Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars View Post
-2bi on stream.

Thanks for everyone who came, gn. I'll post hand where I folded TT on KJTL later on.
    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $259.09 (129.5 bb)
    BB: $313.80 (156.9 bb)
    UTG: $562.03 (281 bb)
    MP: $78.19 (39.1 bb)
    Hero (CO): $220 (110 bb)
    BTN: $1,019.57 (509.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with T T
    UTG raises to $6, MP folds, Hero raises to $18, 3 folds, UTG calls $12

    Flop: ($39) T K J (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $19.50, UTG raises to $49, Hero calls $29.50

    Turn: ($137) 6 (2 players)
    UTG bets $68.50, Hero folds

    Spoiler:


    Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 09-18-2017, 09:48 AM   #2419
    mrno1324
    veteran
     
    mrno1324's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Feb 2016
    Location: UK
    Posts: 2,086
    Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

    wow so you had to put him on exactly AQ or JJ. Was he an uber nit?
    mrno1324 is online now   Reply With Quote
    Old 09-18-2017, 10:17 AM   #2420
    PokerDividends
    centurion
     
    Join Date: Jul 2014
    Location: That's what she said
    Posts: 145
    Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

    if that was zone that is very bad fold longterm but spot on this time.
    PokerDividends is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 09-18-2017, 12:07 PM   #2421
    Brokenstars
    Carpal \'Tunnel
     
    Brokenstars's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2012
    Location: Check out my PGC!!!
    Posts: 9,798
    Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mrno1324 View Post
    wow so you had to put him on exactly AQ or JJ. Was he an uber nit?
    Yes, I put him on AQ/JJ. Readless - zone

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PokerDividends View Post
    if that was zone that is very bad fold longterm but spot on this time.
    It was zone, and I disagree.
    Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 09-18-2017, 12:08 PM   #2422
    72odonkey72
    centurion
     
    Join Date: Apr 2017
    Posts: 166
    Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

    do you use a mixed strat w TT in co v utg? or is this standard / villain specific.. nice lay down
    72odonkey72 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 09-18-2017, 12:10 PM   #2423
    Brokenstars
    Carpal \'Tunnel
     
    Brokenstars's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2012
    Location: Check out my PGC!!!
    Posts: 9,798
    Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 72odonkey72 View Post
    do you use a mixed strat w TT in co v utg? or is this standard / villain specific.. nice lay down
    I've just been 3betting range @ zone lately. Will re-evaluate later on. Thanks.
    Brokenstars is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 09-18-2017, 12:32 PM   #2424
    bbissick
    grinder
     
    Join Date: Aug 2015
    Posts: 615
    Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

    Strong fold and well played. I think against a very strong player it's catastrophic but in 200 zone you are saving quite a bit of money here where a raising range is heavily weighted towards value that beats you, nh nh
    bbissick is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 09-19-2017, 08:40 AM   #2425
    ArtyMcFly
    Carpal \'Tunnel
     
    ArtyMcFly's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2014
    Location: Enchantment Under the Sea
    Posts: 7,616
    Re: Moving Up Stakes, 2015 and beyond

    Amusingly, Snowie says villain's barreling range should be 0.4 combos of AQhh at 100% frequency and 1.2 combos of JJ at 77% frequency. It doesn't barrel with anything you beat....
    ...but it still says you should call. #Sillybot
    ArtyMcFly is offline   Reply With Quote

    Reply
          

    Thread Tools
    Display Modes

    Posting Rules
    You may not post new threads
    You may not post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is On
    HTML code is Off


    Forum Jump


    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:16 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin®
    Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Copyright © 2008-2017, Two Plus Two Interactive
     
     
    Poker Players - Streaming Live Online