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04-09-2016 , 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Yeah, I know. I'm also working my ass off lately, so when I do get time off it's infinitely harder for me to play well because I rather do other stuff. Poker is fun and I enjoy it, but playing 2+ hours turns into work really quickly.

My last 3 shifts I've worked 13hr, 14hr and just last night worked 13.5hrs and got 3 phone calls while i was trying to sleep. I'm ****ing exhausted.

I work tonight, tomorrow, then have two days off, and then cover someone's vacation and I'll be working 7 days in a row and that will be almost 90 hours in 7 days. And it is a lot worse than it sounds.

I really don't know how people do it---work a bunch, balance real life and still get in good volume. They literally devote all their free time to poker and I'm just not going to take the - life ev to do that.
Idc who you are, 90 hours in 7 days is rough as hell. Sorry OP, but hey at least it'll be a nice paycheck.
04-09-2016 , 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clanty
Idc who you are, 90 hours in 7 days is rough as hell. Sorry OP, but hey at least it'll be a nice paycheck.
Yeah, it's rough. Obviously I usually don't have to do that. This will be the 3rd time in my 4.5 months on, the first of which was to get extra training before I was put on by myself, the 2nd of which I was covering for someone sick.

It really is awful. 1st day I think to myself, okay, pace myself, I can do this. 2nd day np, 3rd day getting tired, 4th day omfg when will this end, 5th day seriously hating life, 6th day super crabby, 7th day sore/tired/angry/pissed/come home and sleep 16hrs straight.
04-09-2016 , 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Yeah, it's rough. Obviously I usually don't have to do that. This will be the 3rd time in my 4.5 months on, the first of which was to get extra training before I was put on by myself, the 2nd of which I was covering for someone sick.

It really is awful. 1st day I think to myself, okay, pace myself, I can do this. 2nd day np, 3rd day getting tired, 4th day omfg when will this end, 5th day seriously hating life, 6th day super crabby, 7th day sore/tired/angry/pissed/come home and sleep 16hrs straight.
Jeez. Most I have ever done is probably 70-75 in 5 days, my old boss was a Sri Lankan guy who was in his mid 40s and he'd be at the office by 6am each morning and would still be there when I would leave (6-7pm), plus he had a 1 hour drive each way. God knows how some people do it.
04-11-2016 , 12:00 AM
Yea, I don't miss those days in public accounting when I had to work crazy hours. Hopefully you get a big paycheck.

Last edited by TheStuntman; 04-11-2016 at 12:07 AM.
04-11-2016 , 12:04 AM
Props man, Can't imagine doing 16 hours of physically demanding work a day.


Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStuntman
Yea, I don't miss those days in public accounting. Hopefully you get a big paycheck.

105 hours in public tax accounting this week... Fortunately my most strenuous activity is filling up my water bottle.


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04-11-2016 , 03:50 AM
Yeah, I'm very exhausted right now. 4 more hours of work
04-12-2016 , 10:36 AM
very cool thread, gl! I haven't played online in quite awhile but am interested to follow some of your HHs (more overbet river shoves plz ty ty)
04-12-2016 , 01:39 PM
Sure man, I'll find some hands from my last couple sessions to post.
04-12-2016 , 02:00 PM
Here's some hands from this month so far at 100nl


This hand was gold because fish-reg at the table was saying villain here played this super bad and villain here was talking smack at table previously or something (I wasn't really following it prior to this). Anyways, fish kept talking bad about this guy then this reg says his play was good and that I played it awfully and am clearly a fish for calling and that his range is, "obviously" only QQ+ otr... Clearly not the case sir. I purposely snap checked flop and tank-called turn to appear weak/like I had AK

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 114.1 BB (VPIP: 42.42, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 14.00, Hands: 103)
UTG: 18.5 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (MP): 399.07 BB
CO: 214.04 BB (VPIP: 29.31, PFR: 21.55, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 117)
BTN: 111.58 BB (VPIP: 32.61, PFR: 23.91, 3Bet Preflop: 7.89, Hands: 93)
SB: 99 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 10.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 25 BB, BTN calls 14.5 BB

Flop: (51.5 BB, 2 players) J 9 9
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (51.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN bets 23.75 BB, Hero calls 23.75 BB

River: (99 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BTN bets 62.83 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 62.83 BB

BTN shows 5 7 (Three of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 39%, Flop 7%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows J A (Full House, Nines full of Jacks)
(Pre 61%, Flop 93%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 221.66 BB

bink!

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 104.45 BB (VPIP: 27.03, PFR: 24.32, 3Bet Preflop: 26.32, Hands: 38)
Hero (MP): 121.05 BB
CO: 92 BB (VPIP: 42.42, PFR: 21.21, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
BTN: 105.6 BB (VPIP: 28.95, PFR: 23.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
SB: 169.45 BB (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 38)
BB: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 5

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 5 Q 6
BB bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

Turn: (42.5 BB, 2 players) 3
BB bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB

River: (86.5 BB, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero bets 78.05 BB and is all-in, BB calls 57 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 4 5 (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 22%, Flop 8%, Turn 18%)
BB mucks Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 78%, Flop 92%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins 197.5 BB

Basically won this solely because of my image I think

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 92.5 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
SB: 59.83 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (BB): 187.1 BB
UTG: 97 BB (VPIP: 22.64, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 108)
MP: 161.65 BB (VPIP: 35.24, PFR: 23.81, 3Bet Preflop: 15.79, Hands: 106)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 3.92, Hands: 125)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 5 J Q
Hero checks, UTG bets 4.5 BB, Hero raises to 16 BB, UTG calls 11.5 BB

Turn: (38.5 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 24.25 BB, UTG calls 24.25 BB

River: (87 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 87 BB, UTG calls 53.75 BB and is all-in

Hero shows J J (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 54%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
UTG mucks Q A (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 46%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 191.5 BB

IDK about this hand. I have to check I think, but honestly wasn't very happy calling this down.

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 30 BB (VPIP: 44.12, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
UTG: 118.15 BB (VPIP: 10.71, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 28)
Hero (MP): 125.9 BB
CO: 280.49 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 40)
BTN: 99.5 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 14)
SB: 274.91 BB (VPIP: 28.95, PFR: 26.32, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 40)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q J

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (28.5 BB, 3 players) A J Q
UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (28.5 BB, 3 players) 3
UTG bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB, fold

River: (64.5 BB, 2 players) 7
UTG bets 44 BB, Hero calls 44 BB

UTG shows 7 8 (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 34%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows Q J (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
(Pre 66%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 149.5 BB

I check here because this fish spazzes vs. checks lol

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 79 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 50)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 42)
Hero (SB): 270.15 BB
BB: 267.14 BB (VPIP: 31.03, PFR: 22.41, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 59)
UTG: 122.15 BB (VPIP: 24.24, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 33)
MP: 270.71 BB (VPIP: 29.82, PFR: 26.32, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 59)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, CO calls 7 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 3 J A
Hero checks, CO bets 15.5 BB, Hero calls 15.5 BB

Turn: (52 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (52 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, CO bets 53.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 53.5 BB

CO shows 5 5 (Two Pair, Fives and Threes)
(Pre 52%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows A J (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 49%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 156 BB

This was an awful call down by me. Villain's flop bet is so disgusting though.

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 127 BB
CO: 106.93 BB (VPIP: 26.76, PFR: 19.72, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 71)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 100.7 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 28)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, CO calls 7 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 6 K 3
Hero checks, CO bets 11.25 BB, Hero calls 11.25 BB

Turn: (43 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, CO bets 22.5 BB, Hero calls 22.5 BB

River: (88 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, CO bets 63.18 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 63.18 BB

CO shows T T (Three of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 95%)
Hero mucks Q Q (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 5%)
CO wins 212.36 BB


I don't really like my turn call vs. the jam here.... villain x/j 3-way is nasty. Kind of whatever I think, though. Guy can still have a lot of combo draws that can play like this.

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 99 BB
BB: 110.9 BB (VPIP: 72.73, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 64.21 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 15)
BTN: 62.98 BB (VPIP: 73.91, PFR: 30.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) Q 5 7
Hero checks, BB bets 3 BB, UTG raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB, BB calls 6 BB

Turn: (36 BB, 3 players) 8
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets 20.5 BB, Hero calls 20.5 BB, BB raises to 98.9 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 66.5 BB and is all-in

River: (230.5 BB, 2 players) T

Hero shows Q A (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 62%, Flop 66%, Turn 0%)
BB shows 4 6 (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 38%, Flop 34%, Turn 100%)
BB wins 228.5 BB

Vs. whale, so whatever

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 67.5 BB (VPIP: 40.18, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 12.73, Hands: 116)
MP: 91.28 BB (VPIP: 81.48, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
Hero (CO): 486 BB
BTN: 252.04 BB (VPIP: 30.28, PFR: 20.42, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 143)
SB: 97.7 BB (VPIP: 32.48, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 10.20, Hands: 118)
BB: 81.45 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, MP calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 4 BB

Flop: (11.5 BB, 2 players) 6 6 J
MP checks, Hero bets 5.75 BB, MP calls 5.75 BB

Turn: (23 BB, 2 players) K
MP checks, Hero bets 23 BB, MP calls 23 BB

River: (69 BB, 2 players) 7
MP checks, Hero bets 69 BB, MP calls 57.53 BB and is all-in

Hero shows A K (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)
(Pre 64%, Flop 26%, Turn 23%)
MP shows 7 6 (Full House, Sixes full of Sevens)
(Pre 36%, Flop 74%, Turn 77%)
MP wins 181.06 BB


PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 18.98 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (SB): 209 BB
BB: 116.44 BB (VPIP: 37.93, PFR: 12.07, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)
UTG: 124.93 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 63)
MP: 80 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
CO: 103.2 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 20)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T Q

fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, MP calls 4 BB

Flop: (11 BB, 2 players) J 8 Q
Hero checks, MP bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Turn: (21 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, MP bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

River: (47 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, MP bets 27 BB, Hero raises to 128 BB, MP calls 30 BB and is all-in

Hero shows T Q (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 27%, Flop 61%, Turn 75%)
MP shows K T (Straight, King High)
(Pre 73%, Flop 39%, Turn 25%)
MP wins 158 BB



PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 114.58 BB
BB: 10.53 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 52.11 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 50.54 BB (VPIP: 57.89, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BTN: 54.14 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 27.78, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, BTN calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, BB calls 5 BB, CO calls 5 BB, fold

Flop: (19 BB, 3 players) J T 4
Hero bets 14.5 BB, BB calls 4.53 BB and is all-in, CO calls 14.5 BB

Turn: (52.53 BB, 3 players) 2
Hero bets 52.53 BB, CO calls 30.04 BB and is all-in

River: (112.61 BB, 3 players) 6

Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings)

Main Pot [32.59 BB]: (Pre 52%, Flop 43%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [80.02 BB]: (Pre 68%, Flop 57%, Turn 0%)

BB shows 9 J (One Pair, Jacks)

Main Pot [32.59 BB]: (Pre 19%, Flop 14%, Turn 0%)

CO shows 3 A (Flush, Ace High)

Main Pot [32.59 BB]: (Pre 29%, Flop 43%, Turn 100%)
Side Pot#1 [80.02 BB]: (Pre 32%, Flop 43%, Turn 100%)

CO wins 109.61 BB

Last edited by Brokenstars; 04-12-2016 at 02:10 PM.
04-12-2016 , 02:56 PM
Lol @ the table talk in hand 1. Table talk on Bovada cracks me up.
04-12-2016 , 04:14 PM
Played about 35mins 2 tables 100nlz. Ended the session with a super annoying hand, wow! +$43 for the sess

I open 87 from MP for 3bb

CO 3bets me to 9bb, and has around a 90bb stack.

Folds to me and I flat

Flop comes Q54

I check to him and he c-bet 9bb for half pot. I make a light float vs. this sizing and call.

Turn comes 7

I check and he bets half pot again, I call.

River 7

I check hoping he ships it on the flush coming river and he does. I call and he shows

47

WP sir.
04-12-2016 , 05:56 PM
lol 47ss what a genius

unlucky
04-12-2016 , 06:42 PM
Played 100nl reg for around 1.5 hours. +$82.

Had an unreal run of good preflop cards, but ended up having to fold a lot post flop due to bad run outs and playing vs lol-i-have-a-good-hand sizings. Couple bluffs didn't go through unfortunately. Could have been better.
04-12-2016 , 09:26 PM
haha 47 hands is great
subbed
David Jimenez from rio

hey @Clanty added you on skype
04-13-2016 , 01:03 AM
AJo I dont like your 4b sizing here,i think this is kinda way too big, 22-23 should be more than enough
QQ i x/f turn and definetly x/f river
54hh i think is wayyyy too lose to defend MP vs BB but maybe u had some good reads on the guy
AQo on Q758 im never stacking there 3way ott unless i have 88+
rest seems like wp!
04-13-2016 , 07:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2good2bTrue
AJo I dont like your 4b sizing here,i think this is kinda way too big, 22-23 should be more than enough
QQ i x/f turn and definetly x/f river
54hh i think is wayyyy too lose to defend MP vs BB but maybe u had some good reads on the guy
AQo on Q758 im never stacking there 3way ott unless i have 88+
rest seems like wp!
I agree with QQ/AQ. Although with the AQ I was thinking in game that he could check turn with some pair + FD hands and then when other guy bets and I call he may decide to ship those. It's likely a fold vs. the population however, but that's what I was thinking at the time. The small donk is often going to be a draw-heavy type of hand in this spot as well, as that's been my read over the thousands of hands I've played vs. the population. He did infact have a draw, but I never put him on that hand (obviously)

54s is whatever, probably close to breakeven or slightly +EV since he's going to have a very strong range and I can just play it well post flop. If you're calling with stuff like KQs/JTs etc. here 54s is honestly better since villain is more likely to get it in on board run outs that favor that exact hand. Post flop is standard

AJ 4b sizing is fine, he made it to 10.5bb pre and we're 111 deep and I'm OOP. It's around 2.5x sizing so if he had made it 9bb my sizing would have been around 22-23. Going to 22-23 is too small vs. this sizing OOP though unless I'm playing a very nitty 4b strategy. Turns out the sizing was still too small because he 3b/called 57s, so what a donk.

The QQ hand is by far the worst hand I played. Turn call can be close vs. lots of villains, and river is kind of awful. His flop bet was atrocious though, so wp by him to bink the 2 outter.
04-13-2016 , 03:51 PM
the hand with the 2 black ladies why are you checking as opposed to leading the flop especially after 3 betting and taking control pre? as played after checking the flop based on villains sizing id personally be check raising with basically any2 as opposed to check calling all the way down
04-13-2016 , 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4GET2PWNED0
the hand with the 2 black ladies why are you checking as opposed to leading the flop especially after 3 betting and taking control pre? as played after checking the flop based on villains sizing id personally be check raising with basically any2 as opposed to check calling all the way down
X or c-bet with QxQc there is fine and either play likely has similar EV.

X/r is obviously spew, but turn is where I started to (arguably) make mistakes, and river is clearly bad as I've said. The reason I called was due to blocking AQ and him not really wanting to shove many hands and I've seen many people spew off with middling pairs when checked to (see flop, case and point). It still ends up being a rather bad call though.
04-13-2016 , 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
X or c-bet with QxQc there is fine and either play likely has similar EV.

X/r is obviously spew, but turn is where I started to (arguably) make mistakes, and river is clearly bad as I've said. The reason I called was due to blocking AQ and him not really wanting to shove many hands and I've seen many people spew off with middling pairs when checked to (see flop, case and point). It still ends up being a rather bad call though.
we'll agree to disagree on the hand which is part of the fun of discussing hands, GL
04-13-2016 , 04:17 PM
I would've played QQ hand the same way without calling the river jam. Obviously board runout sucked, but I would've played the flop and turn the same.
04-13-2016 , 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4GET2PWNED0
we'll agree to disagree on the hand which is part of the fun of discussing hands, GL
There is no enjoyment if you don't actually discuss it.

Why do you think I should x/r 2nd pair?
04-13-2016 , 06:29 PM
So, I woke up at around 1:30PM today and usually I wake up right after 5:00PM to get ready for work. (I work nights if anyone forgot). So, I woke up about 3.5 hours early today which will make today quite awful. Anyways, decided to take advantage of it and grinded a couple hours of poker -- two tabling 100nl zone. I ran well overall, but also thought I played close to my A-game. I only made a couple mistakes which were "meh" spots to begin with.

+$410
04-13-2016 , 07:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob_124
(more overbet river shoves plz ty ty)
Not enough for you in my thread?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
X or c-bet with QxQc there is fine and either play likely has similar EV.
Flop is 100% a check-call. I mean, if you said "List all your combos in this spot and then rank them in order of how likely you are to check", QQ with a club would literally be top of my list. Turn is also a call. River, you know you should have folded, although your point about blocking the straight is true. But you've got enough combos of better bluff-catchers in your range at that point (e.g. KQ and maybe some AA) and also some monsters (AQs, KJ), that the queens can safely be folded.
Villain's flop bet is, as you say, terrible.
04-14-2016 , 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Not enough for you in my thread?

Flop is 100% a check-call. I mean, if you said "List all your combos in this spot and then rank them in order of how likely you are to check", QQ with a club would literally be top of my list. Turn is also a call. River, you know you should have folded, although your point about blocking the straight is true. But you've got enough combos of better bluff-catchers in your range at that point (e.g. KQ and maybe some AA) and also some monsters (AQs, KJ), that the queens can safely be folded.
Villain's flop bet is, as you say, terrible.
I would for sure weight QQ to a significantly higher checking %, but I really don't think the EV changes much there (though vs. the population it likely does, TT? seriously?). What's snowie's awful EV ratings say? Rest I agree with.

Worked 14 hours today and I have been up for the last 20.50 hours as I'm writing this. As I said in a previous post I'm covering for someone's vacation so I'll be working the next 6 consecutive days. INB4 90+ hour work week.
04-14-2016 , 11:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
I would for sure weight QQ to a significantly higher checking %, but I really don't think the EV changes much there (though vs. the population it likely does, TT? seriously?). What's snowie's awful EV ratings say? Rest I agree with.
I looked at it briefly yesterday. If I recall correctly, it only c-bets about 55% of its range in that spot, with all combos of QQ and JJ at 100% and tons of mixing with most other hands. Betting supposedly burns 2bb of EV, so it's a blunder. I think the river call costs you about 6bb. As you point out, these EV numbers go out of the window when villains are playing stupidly. I wonder what villain would have done if he hadn't binked his 2-outer.

      
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