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02-26-2015 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ohsnapzbrah
Everybody has some form of tilt. Everybody. Some are subtle, such as calling a spot where you'd normally raise or folding a hand you'd normally defend with. Some are massive, such as going on insane monkey tilt and jumping to 1000nl. The best a person can do is limit their tilt. Michael Jordan had off games. Tom Brady has off games. The manager down at your local starbucks has off shifts. These are all tilt, just in different aspects of life. If you don't have any sort of tilt, then you are a robot and you probably won't have fun playing the game; it'll seem more like a mundane 9-5 job.

I can also say that OP didn't look at his PT4 from his last session because that's impossible to do on the site that he plays on. Also from the same site, it's impossible to not look at your BR because you have to manually top off your stack. That shows you your BR every time you do it.

I personally witnessed one of his sessions last night. I can verify that he played fine despite being down a few buy-ins. His thought process didn't change; he ran into a few really gross spots (ie, TPTK in a 3bet pot, x/r on QT4 flop, turn is a 4 and villain shows up with 42).
You are shifting goal posts/ using a red herring bro, i never said you can stop tilt, i am saying you will tilt less by not checking your BR after every session.

Last edited by Jajajaja; 02-26-2015 at 02:22 PM.
02-26-2015 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jajajaja
Just a tip, you shouldnt look at your BR after every session, nothing good comes from it and there is a lot of negatives that can come from doing it
I agree. I'd argue that it doesn't effect me, but it does at least a bit. Thanks for the advice.

As ohsnapzbrah stated, it would be difficult for me to not see my balance at my current site and the advantages probably don't outweigh the disadvantages (annoying to have to close my eyes or squint a bunch or something while I top off 24/7). Anyways, tilt control is a much bigger reason I'm a winner over any other factor. But anyways, just saying I agree with the advice and appreciate it, but it would be hard to implement for me I think.

What do you do to avoid seeing your balance on PS?
02-26-2015 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
I agree. I'd argue that it doesn't effect me, but it does at least a bit. Thanks for the advice.

As ohsnapzbrah stated, it would be difficult for me to not see my balance at my current site and the advantages probably don't outweigh the disadvantages (annoying to have to close my eyes or squint a bunch or something while I top off 24/7). Anyways, tilt control is a much bigger reason I'm a winner over any other factor. But anyways, just saying I agree with the advice and appreciate it, but it would be hard to implement for me I think.

What do you do to avoid seeing your balance on PS?
I just look away from the screen when i join zoom games, which is the definition of lacking heart, dont tell anyone

Its especially great when you lose a bunch near the end of your session after being up, you dont see you graph peak and fall to b/e or w/e it is.
02-26-2015 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jajajaja
I just look away from the screen why i join zoom games, which is the definition of lacking heart, dont tell anyone
If I was playing the stakes + volume you were I'd do the same. Teh swings are gunna be swingy!
02-26-2015 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jajajaja
You are shifting goal posts/ using a red herring bro, i never said you can stop tilt, i am saying you will tilt less by not checking your BR after every session.
I can see how it would be tilting for some people, but not how it could cause them to play a bad session the next one. If that's the case, they're too attached to their br and results and now how they're playing. I have to. I keep an official running total so that in case I make it to my goal and beyond, I can have those totals for tax purposes.
02-26-2015 , 08:02 PM
Played two reg tables of 100nl during a class for about 1.5hrs. Called down too light for sure in two seperate occasions costing me around $50 total.

+$100

BR: $4,879
02-26-2015 , 09:44 PM
4-tabled 100nl, played a bit over an hr and a half. Fish I was isoing almost every hand was running good against me, but I made an awful call down where his bets + sizing made 0 sense and he ended up having AA lol (river was A). Got a regfish to spew against me. I had raised him on flops in blinds vs. btn like twice out of 3 times (he folded both) and had also 4b bluffed him (he doesnt know this). Anyways, i open 2x in btn, he 3bets to 6x (lol) in sb and I flat the 4bb w/ 78o. Flop comes 1088 and he bets around $7.50 into a $12 pot, I raise it to $23 and he jams. Ofc. I snap it and he has AK. gg!

+$88

BR: $4,967
02-27-2015 , 01:08 AM
Tom Brady yeah!!!!
02-27-2015 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DddogKILLAh
Tom Brady yeah!!!!
??

Played another shiort session just 1 tabling and netflix in bed.

-47, but lost a 137 pot vs. a 9 outter vs a shorty

BR: $4,920
02-27-2015 , 01:47 AM
Rigged game is rigged.
03-10-2015 , 07:33 PM
I didn't die! Just haven't posted due to stress/life issues/not playing.

Graph from February: Hardly played, also didn't play the best/run the best, but whatever it's lolsample



I've been busy with a variety of things IRL and haven't had the motivation to grind (it is just a hobby for me afterall). Anyways, I've played some small sessions in the last couple of weeks without posting about them.

My roll right now is : $4,726
03-10-2015 , 11:18 PM
So, played 4 tables of 100nl since I came back for about 3 hours. I ran decent and got into some good spots, played well overall, but bluffed in a couple spots that I mean, they were good bluffs, just not vs the opponents I was facing. So, spewed a little, but also exploitively played several spots that made me quite a lot of money. Unfortunately had a small cooler near the end of my session:

UTG (30bb) new player, likely fish, opens 2bb, MP (100bb) new player raises to 7bb, CO folds, im in btn with KK and make it around 20bb, folds to MP who flats and flop comes 1032r, pot was around 40bb and he checks to me and I make it around 14bb, he raises to 40bb (ugh, whatever) and I just jam over it with him having around same bet size behind. Guy obviously had AA, but not much to do there I don't think. Could definitely flat I spose (and that actually would have been better i think), but still woulda lost my stack.

+$360

BR: $5,086
03-11-2015 , 10:24 PM
4-tabled 100nl for 3 hrs. Played pretty solid and got into some decent spots, but almost every time someone had me beat or outdrew me and I got into some big pots quite a lot. So, ran quite badly. Was probably playing a bit too aggressive, but working on doing some x/r as PFR OOP.

Had the weirdest hand where a total fish (70/40 over 60 hands) called my 3bet and proceeded to call my triple barrel with AQ high. I had 54s and lost, but I was like why the hell is he calling down with this? Whatever, good for me I guess.

-$381

BR: $4,705
03-12-2015 , 12:01 AM
Why are you triple barrelling a 70/40 guy?
03-12-2015 , 01:10 AM
Good to see you're alive.
03-12-2015 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Why are you triple barrelling a 70/40 guy?
Fold to Cbet was like 50% and board was dry with flush draw and flush missed and i had an open ender

1032 fd flop, brickish turn, brickish river

obviously it was bad since he lol-called with AQ high, but it was pretty perfect spot for it
03-12-2015 , 04:52 AM
It always annoys me when I bluff a bad player knowing any somewhat competent player should be folding xyz hands here. Then they rock up with ave high or Tx and you wonder whether tripling vs a spaz was a good idea to begin without considering board texture.
03-12-2015 , 09:04 AM
bluffing fishes is never a good idea. The fun of a fish is you can do anything you want vs them exploitably. Even a maniac you can let him run you over and once you hit you still get his money.

Hu you gotta fight back a bit but at 6max if you are forcing **** vs a fish you'll eventually lose everything you have
03-12-2015 , 09:41 AM
There's opportunities to bluff fish with scared money at 100nl+
You just really have to know what you are doing.
Idea is that the fish will be there only for a limited time, and we want to win as much money from him as we possibly can.

I agree that you can give up on some small pots, like vs donk bets or if they check/minraise A72r, but then in big pots your skill advantage is huge.
03-12-2015 , 10:09 AM
its the complete opposite. It's in smaller pots that you have an edge on them.
which is why i raise smaller pf vs fish compared to regs.

They might spew in larger pots but if you create a lot of large pots you'll just bleed money without any fold equity.
03-12-2015 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ...|...
its the complete opposite. It's in smaller pots that you have an edge on them.
which is why i raise smaller pf vs fish compared to regs.

They might spew in larger pots but if you create a lot of large pots you'll just bleed money without any fold equity.
I would only do this if I was opening my range waaaaaaaaaay wider.

Anyways, to all the above comments. I understand you shouldn't be bluffing fish (generally speaking). I felt that this example was one of the scenarios in which it was +EV and I was surprised to see him call down with AQ high.
03-12-2015 , 01:40 PM
Obv, fish soul read you.
03-12-2015 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheStuntman
Obv, fish soul read you.
I guess? Most of my bluffs > him though. Anyways, kudos to him!
03-12-2015 , 10:19 PM
I agree with ...|..., reminds me of my 2NL days where literally everyone bar like 5% of the pop was a whale. Just playing super passively, waiting to hit hands, never bluffing and barely ever semi bluffing seemed to be the recipe to defeat them.
03-12-2015 , 10:23 PM
it's actually the receipe to crush regs too

But everyone is too busy lowering their winrate by playing aggro vs each other.

      
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