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12-12-2014 , 06:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
I played about 3 hrs today, two-tabling 100nl. Played bad. Ran bad.

+$20

BR: $2,468.89
Wow, teach me how to get a green session while playing bad and running bad.
12-12-2014 , 11:28 AM
Geezus Brokenstars, hit the fold button ocassionally lol.

Don't wanna get obsessed about red line talk but some of the hands you posted didn't surprise me after I'd seen your red line

U look to be a good player who is capable of being quite creative IMO. Floating the 74s on AKx in a 3bet pot was pretty sick. I imagine you could be difficult opponent to have on someones left. I think you could do very well

I wouldn't go TOO crazy calling any two cards on the button though, or at least be selective about the opponents u do it against. I say that because this is something I am also guilty of.

GL
12-12-2014 , 11:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by de_man
Geezus Brokenstars, hit the fold button ocassionally lol.

Don't wanna get obsessed about red line talk but some of the hands you posted didn't surprise me after I'd seen your red line

U look to be a good player who is capable of being quite creative IMO. Floating the 74s on AKx in a 3bet pot was pretty sick. I imagine you could be difficult opponent to have on someones left. I think you could do very well

I wouldn't go TOO crazy calling any two cards on the button though, or at least be selective about the opponents u do it against. I say that because this is something I am also guilty of.

GL
Yep, of course, I get carried away some times and make mistakes, but that is the process of learning. I'm not afraid to make mistakes and try new things to be able to learn quicker. There are definitely some spots that I know the majority people "1 and done" and so if I think their range is wide enough in those spots I can float. The 74cc hand is obviously bad on the river, but the turn I was actually getting enough equity + implied odds (albeit only slightly).

Plus, I'm making it a point to post the "fun" hands, not just the ones that are standard or silly coolers!
12-12-2014 , 12:36 PM
Your play style is a nightmare for my play style. I'm scared of floating/making tricky plays without having good reads, especially when there are a lot of fish on Bovada that lack the fold button.
12-12-2014 , 01:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStuntman
Your play style is a nightmare for my play style. I'm scared of floating/making tricky plays without having good reads, especially when there are a lot of fish on Bovada that lack the fold button.
Yeah, definitely have to pick and choose . I was playing quite passive the other night on one table with these two fish cussing eachother out and playing every pot and just doing weird stuff. No point trying to bluff them ofc.
12-13-2014 , 02:07 AM
I had a super great session! The most profitable single session of my poker career so far. I played very well and made some great bluffs and great hero calls as well as great hero folds. I think I played my A game today and I also ran very well. It certainly helped that tables were full of fish too. I did, however, probably run around $300 below EV.... I'll be able to post a sick hand w/ 96dd in a couple days! Look forward to it guys

4 tabling 100nl for 4 hours

+$562

BR: $3,228.37
12-13-2014 , 02:19 AM
Not sure how I haven't subbed yet. What sample/WR did you play at 50NL and what BRM are you using?
12-13-2014 , 02:20 AM
    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33352181

    SB: $63.53 (63.5 bb)
    BB: $103.80 (103.8 bb)
    MP: $30 (30 bb)
    Hero (CO): $428.25 (428.3 bb)
    BTN: $183.50 (183.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 5 3
    MP posts BB OOP, MP checks, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, MP calls $3

    Flop: ($9.50) 6 K 7 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $4, MP calls $4

    Turn: ($17.50) 4 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $7, MP calls $7

    River: ($31.50) 9 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $31.50, MP folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $31.50 pot ($1.55 rake)
    Final Board: 6 K 7 4 9
    MP mucked and lost (-$15 net)
    Hero mucked 5 3 and won $29.95 ($14.95 net)



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      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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      CO: $58.67 (117.3 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $74.05 (148.1 bb)
      SB: $14.85 (29.7 bb)
      BB: $50 (100 bb)
      UTG: $53.30 (106.6 bb)
      MP: $44.25 (88.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 K
      2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, CO raises to $10, Hero calls $5.50

      Flop: ($20.75) 2 9 7 (2 players)
      CO bets $10, Hero calls $10

      Turn: ($40.75) 8 (2 players)
      CO bets $38.67 and is all-in, Hero calls $38.67

      River: ($118.09) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $118.09 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 2 9 7 8 Q
      CO showed A J and lost (-$58.67 net)
      Hero showed 7 K and won $115.09 ($56.42 net)



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        Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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        MP: $19.25 (38.5 bb)
        Hero (CO): $72.75 (145.5 bb)
        BTN: $41.59 (83.2 bb)
        SB: $49.50 (99 bb)
        BB: $67.32 (134.6 bb)
        UTG: $66.35 (132.7 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 K
        2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50

        Flop: ($6.75) 2 7 8 (2 players)
        Hero checks, BTN checks

        Turn: ($6.75) Q (2 players)
        Hero bets $4, BTN calls $4

        River: ($14.75) 3 (2 players)
        Hero bets $9, BTN raises to $18, Hero raises to $65.75 and is all-in, BTN calls $16.59 and is all-in

        Spoiler:
        Results: $83.93 pot ($3 rake)
        Final Board: 2 7 8 Q 3
        Hero showed 6 K and won $80.93 ($39.34 net)
        BTN mucked and lost (-$41.59 net)



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          Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33352211

          BTN: $10.75 (21.5 bb)
          Hero (SB): $52.68 (105.4 bb)
          BB: $66.01 (132 bb)
          UTG: $148.08 (296.2 bb)
          MP: $77.02 (154 bb)
          CO: $52.60 (105.2 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with J A
          UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, BB folds, MP calls $3.50

          Flop: ($10.50) 9 Q 5 (2 players)
          Hero checks, MP bets $6.49, Hero calls $6.49

          Turn: ($23.48) 8 (2 players)
          Hero checks, MP bets $11.74, Hero calls $11.74

          River: ($46.96) K (2 players)
          Hero bets $29.45 and is all-in, MP folds

          Spoiler:
          Results: $46.96 pot ($2.30 rake)
          Final Board: 9 Q 5 8 K
          Hero mucked J A and won $44.66 ($21.43 net)
          MP mucked and lost (-$23.23 net)



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            Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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            BB: $100 (100 bb)
            MP: $130 (130 bb)
            CO: $173.15 (173.2 bb)
            Hero (BTN): $118.95 (119 bb)
            SB: $134.95 (135 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BTN with T A
            MP folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, SB calls $8.50, BB calls $8, CO calls $6

            Flop: ($36) T 6 5 (4 players)
            SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $18, SB raises to $90, 2 folds, Hero raises to $109.95 and is all-in, SB calls $19.95

            Turn: ($255.90) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
            River: ($255.90) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

            Spoiler:
            Results: $255.90 pot ($2.00 rake)
            Final Board: T 6 5 T 2
            BB mucked and lost (-$9 net)
            CO mucked and lost (-$9 net)
            Hero showed T A and won $253.90 ($134.95 net)
            SB showed Q Q and lost (-$118.95 net)



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              Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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              BB: $100 (100 bb)
              UTG: $124 (124 bb)
              MP: $125 (125 bb)
              CO: $184.50 (184.5 bb)
              Hero (BTN): $289.50 (289.5 bb)
              SB: $122.25 (122.3 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
              UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $3, SB raises to $13, 2 folds, Hero calls $10

              Flop: ($30) A 3 8 (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $15, SB calls $15

              Turn: ($60) 6 (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $30, SB calls $30

              River: ($120) 2 (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $231.50 and is all-in, SB calls $64.25 and is all-in

              Spoiler:
              Results: $248.50 pot ($3 rake)
              Final Board: A 3 8 6 2
              Hero showed A K and won $245.50 ($123.25 net)
              SB mucked and lost (-$122.25 net)



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                Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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                MP: $102.85 (102.9 bb)
                CO: $125.50 (125.5 bb)
                BTN: $152.65 (152.7 bb)
                SB: $107.65 (107.7 bb)
                Hero (BB): $262 (262 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 K
                MP calls $1, CO folds, BTN raises to $4, SB folds, Hero raises to $14, MP folds, BTN calls $10

                Flop: ($29.50) 4 7 T (2 players)
                Hero bets $16, BTN calls $16

                Turn: ($61.50) 4 (2 players)
                Hero bets $40, BTN folds

                Spoiler:
                Results: $61.50 pot ($2 rake)
                Final Board: 4 7 T 4
                BTN mucked and lost (-$30 net)
                Hero mucked 5 K and won $59.50 ($29.50 net)



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                  Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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                  BB: $104.50 (104.5 bb)
                  UTG: $130 (130 bb)
                  MP: $184.35 (184.4 bb)
                  CO: $96.50 (96.5 bb)
                  Hero (BTN): $154.90 (154.9 bb)
                  SB: $47.45 (47.5 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 3
                  3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1

                  Flop: ($6) 4 8 2 (3 players)
                  SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls $3, BB calls $3

                  Turn: ($15) 3 (3 players)
                  SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $9.95, SB raises to $42.45 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero calls $32.50

                  River: ($99.90) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $99.90 pot ($3 rake)
                  Final Board: 4 8 2 3 9
                  BB mucked and lost (-$5 net)
                  Hero showed 4 3 and lost (-$47.45 net)
                  SB showed 8 9 and won $96.90 ($49.45 net)



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                    Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33352261

                    MP: $77.77 (155.5 bb)
                    CO: $2.75 (5.5 bb)
                    Hero (BTN): $59.03 (118.1 bb)
                    SB: $30.73 (61.5 bb)
                    BB: $71.35 (142.7 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is BTN with T T
                    MP raises to $1.50, CO folds, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, MP calls $3

                    Flop: ($9.75) 9 T 2 (2 players)
                    MP checks, Hero checks

                    Turn: ($9.75) 4 (2 players)
                    MP bets $4.50, Hero raises to $12, MP calls $7.50

                    River: ($33.75) K (2 players)
                    MP bets $18.37, Hero raises to $42.53 and is all-in, MP calls $24.16

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $118.81 pot ($2 rake)
                    Final Board: 9 T 2 4 K
                    MP showed K K and won $116.81 ($57.78 net)
                    Hero showed T T and lost (-$59.03 net)



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                      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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                      Hero (BTN): $74.84 (149.7 bb)
                      SB: $35.39 (70.8 bb)
                      BB: $59.51 (119 bb)
                      MP: $9.05 (18.1 bb)
                      CO: $39.25 (78.5 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 4
                      CO posts BB OOP, MP folds, CO raises to $2, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, CO calls $4

                      Flop: ($13) 7 K 6 (2 players)
                      CO checks, Hero bets $4.50, CO raises to $9, Hero raises to $68.84 and is all-in, CO calls $24 and is all-in

                      Turn: ($79) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                      River: ($79) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $79 pot ($2 rake)
                      Final Board: 7 K 6 2 2
                      Hero showed A 4 and lost (-$39 net)
                      CO showed 7 7 and won $77 ($37.75 net)



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                        Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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                        Hero (CO): $113.25 (226.5 bb)
                        BTN: $44.05 (88.1 bb)
                        SB: $52.95 (105.9 bb)
                        BB: $12.45 (24.9 bb)
                        UTG: $52.10 (104.2 bb)
                        MP: $46.67 (93.3 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is CO with K 8
                        UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, BTN calls $2, 2 folds, MP calls $1.50

                        Flop: ($6.75) 2 4 T (3 players)
                        MP bets $0.50, Hero raises to $4, BTN calls $4, MP folds

                        Turn: ($15.25) 6 (2 players)
                        Hero bets $9.95, BTN calls $9.95

                        River: ($35.15) 4 (2 players)
                        Hero bets $97.30 and is all-in, BTN calls $28.10 and is all-in

                        Spoiler:
                        Results: $91.35 pot ($3.00 rake)
                        Final Board: 2 4 T 6 4
                        Hero showed K 8 and won $0.00 (-$44.05 net)
                        BTN showed J T and won $88.35 ($44.30 net)



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                        12-13-2014 , 02:24 AM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by meale
                        Not sure how I haven't subbed yet. What sample/WR did you play at 50NL and what BRM are you using?
                        Here is my total graph at 50nl. Only 22k hands so whatever. I took a shot at 100nl 2-tabling with $2,100 roll a couple days ago, mainly because I didn't see any 50nl tables up and I personally felt comfortable enough to take a 2bi shot or so.

                        12-13-2014 , 02:42 AM
                        Nice man looks good.
                        12-13-2014 , 02:44 AM
                        Damn dude, look at that red line hahaha, will you teach me?
                        12-13-2014 , 04:37 AM
                        Playing in the same games as you. PM me your screen name if you don't
                        mind? I'm curious as to who you might be.

                        Also, this might be a completely idiotic question but how do you play on stars if you live in Iowa?
                        12-13-2014 , 01:25 PM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by CLS
                        Playing in the same games as you. PM me your screen name if you don't
                        mind? I'm curious as to who you might be.

                        Also, this might be a completely idiotic question but how do you play on stars if you live in Iowa?
                        I don't play on Stars. I play on Bovada. PT4 isn't able to import Bovada HH, so a bovada hand converter was created to solve this problem. It converts the hands into Stars HH format so they can then be uploaded to PT4.
                        12-13-2014 , 01:27 PM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by TheStuntman
                        Damn dude, look at that red line hahaha, will you teach me?
                        3bet a lot (A LOT)
                        Squeeze
                        4bet re-squeeze in good spots
                        pick up small pots regularly (limped pots/low card flops, etc)
                        punish limpers by raising any decent two cards
                        bluff in good spots

                        Last edited by Brokenstars; 12-13-2014 at 01:37 PM.
                        12-13-2014 , 02:39 PM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by Brokenstars
                        I don't play on Stars. I play on Bovada. PT4 isn't able to import Bovada HH, so a bovada hand converter was created to solve this problem. It converts the hands into Stars HH format so they can then be uploaded to PT4.
                        Makes sense.

                        Good luck mate.
                        12-13-2014 , 03:00 PM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by TheStuntman
                        Damn dude, look at that red line hahaha, will you teach me?
                        I don't think you should take much notice of that, but a brief scan of BS's last post and no offence to him but the 53hh, K8o, A4o, AJo, K5s at the very least are all very misplayed/spewy but they're the sort of lines that will stop you losing on your redline but affect your actual winnings too, massively.
                        12-13-2014 , 03:14 PM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by samcx
                        I don't think you should take much notice of that, but a brief scan of BS's last post and no offence to him but the 53hh, K8o, A4o, AJo, K5s at the very least are all very misplayed/spewy but they're the sort of lines that will stop you losing on your redline but affect your actual winnings too, massively.
                        Most graphs have a very upward moving blue line and a very downward moving red line which makes a lot of sense. A lot of of these type of graphs are from ABC-type players and ABC is the style I play, however I am looking for ways to improve my red line, if it means improving my win rate.
                        12-13-2014 , 03:17 PM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by TheStuntman
                        Most graphs have a very upward moving blue line and a very downward moving red line which makes a lot of sense. A lot of of these type of graphs are from ABC-type players and ABC is the style I play, however I am looking for ways to improve my red line, if it means improving my win rate.
                        Fair enough, but have a look over the hands I mentioned and it shouldn't take a genius to realise why he's got a B/E redline, but at the same time they aren't profitable plays so I think people can become somewhat obsessed with redline which can actually be detrimental to your game so be careful.
                        12-13-2014 , 03:22 PM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by samcx
                        I don't think you should take much notice of that, but a brief scan of BS's last post and no offence to him but the 53hh, K8o, A4o, AJo, K5s at the very least are all very misplayed/spewy but they're the sort of lines that will stop you losing on your redline but affect your actual winnings too, massively.
                        Well, I'm posting the fun hands, some of them are undoubtably misplayed, however I definitely have reads when I do stuff like this.

                        I also agree that you shouldn't overly worry about having a good red-line.

                        Last edited by Brokenstars; 12-13-2014 at 03:28 PM.
                        12-14-2014 , 04:11 AM
                        Played around 7 hrs tonight

                        4 tabling 100nl

                        Played meh....

                        +$490

                        BR: $3,717.37
                        12-14-2014 , 03:59 PM
                        2 tabling for like 30 minutes

                        +$17
                        12-14-2014 , 04:57 PM
                          Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33380951

                          UTG: $100 (100 bb)
                          MP: $313.78 (313.8 bb)
                          CO: $64.55 (64.6 bb)
                          BTN: $123.20 (123.2 bb)
                          SB: $99 (99 bb)
                          Hero (BB): $361.90 (361.9 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 9
                          UTG raises to $2.50, MP folds, CO calls $2.50, BTN folds, SB calls $2, Hero calls $1.50

                          Flop: ($10) 2 T 9 (4 players)
                          SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $6.97, CO calls $6.97, SB folds, Hero calls $6.97

                          Turn: ($30.91) 4 (3 players)
                          Hero checks, UTG bets $12.33, CO calls $12.33, Hero calls $12.33

                          River: ($67.90) 2 (3 players)
                          Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $37.50, Hero calls $37.50, UTG folds

                          Spoiler:
                          Results: $142.90 pot ($3.00 rake)
                          Final Board: 2 T 9 4 2
                          UTG mucked and lost (-$21.80 net)
                          CO showed 3 3 and lost (-$59.30 net)
                          Hero showed 6 9 and won $139.90 ($80.60 net)



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                          12-14-2014 , 08:15 PM
                          4 tabling, 2 hours

                          played pretty bad

                          +46

                          BR: $3,780.91
                          12-14-2014 , 08:47 PM
                          In, GL
                          12-14-2014 , 10:01 PM
                          Quote:
                          Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
                          In, GL
                          Thanks for the support Joe

                                
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