Think it's pretty complicated, especially with straddle dynamics (which I don't have a huge amount of exp. dealing with). What's hero's perceived/actual SB raise% here (I'm sure many good winning regs are raising here <15%)?

I'm on board with Meale that we can triple here a huge % (esp. when draws brick) and expect folds almost always. But, do we want to turn AK into a bluff? I'd rather bet bet xf, as I expect most villains to take sdv and under-bluff the river. Also why I'm advocating the smaller cbet size, I want all junky ax to feel like they have to call. People's calling ranging are very elastic to bet sizing, if we bomb flop we just fold out too much of what we dominate.

Few other thoughts

Good regs will turn QJ, JK, QT, KT into bluffs here, especially facing a check from hero.
When the flush completes (esp. turn), it's really a dogfight for who wants the pot more. When the board pairs, hero has more full-houses, if river pairs the board there's merit to building out a donk-range.

As far as the hand goes, I like villain's line. Presumably, he's blasting unimproved? I also, don't mind the trips nitback

These 3 blind structures change a lot of the game. Actually think BB is going to want to call pretty much all KQo unless SB sucks.

The SB is pretty difficult to play in these kinds of games and tight is right. (opening 10-15% seems fine; also fine to have a limp strat as well I'd say)

Flop can go either way between betting small and betting big. Turn is probably a mistake and would just c/f here comfortably. If you do call would just realize that he's going to bluff blank rivers pretty much always as well so calling turn/ folding river pretty decent mistake.

Update- Falling behind pace on the live hours this year with 275/400 hours played. Way ahead online though with 200k hands. I'm slowly making the transition.

Some high/low lights:

1) Gambling with low battery

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 7

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 7 8 9
SB checks, Hero bets 4.5 BB, SB raises to 15 BB, fold



2) Confused for a sec why the pot was shipped the other way

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (25.5 BB, 2 players) T 6 9
UTG checks, Hero bets 7.75 BB, UTG calls 7.75 BB

Turn: (41 BB, 2 players) K
UTG checks, Hero bets 22.5 BB, UTG calls 22.5 BB

River: (86 BB, 2 players) 9
UTG checks, Hero bets 86 BB, UTG raises to 172 BB, Hero calls 13.26 BB and is all-in

UTG shows 7 8 (Straight Flush, Ten High)
(Pre 17%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)

UTG wins 282.52 BB


3) Punt for humility

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, MP calls 9 BB

Flop: (25 BB, 2 players) 3 9 A
Hero bets 8.5 BB, MP calls 8.5 BB

Turn: (42 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, MP checks

River: (42 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, MP bets 28 BB, Hero raises to 192.34 BB and is all-in, MP tanks to the last milisecond,MP calls 62.73 BB and is all-in

Hero shows T T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 12%, Flop 8%, Turn 19%)
MP shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 88%, Flop 92%, Turn 81%)

MP wins 221.45 BB


4) Owned for the max

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) J 4 8
SB bets 4.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 4.5 BB

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) 7
SB bets 3.6 BB, Hero calls 3.6 BB

River: (25.2 BB, 2 players) 2
SB bets 5.31 BB, Hero raises to 50 BB, SB calls 36.09 BB and is all-in

Hero shows Q A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 65%, Flop 22%, Turn 14%)
SB shows J 9 (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 35%, Flop 78%, Turn 86%)
SB wins 106 BB

Assuming this is a full table, I believe you should just limp or fold pre with 100% of hands from the sb.

Can you explain your reasoning to us recreational players? Thanks.

Oh i might have misread it. Is this a regular straddle and the table folded to him, or is it mississippi and he is first to act?

Or was it a Dallas straddle with ultimate ultimate ultimate last action...I assumed it was a regular straddle with action folded to the SB, although if he included all action then it was 3 handed.

Got ya, in that case it is good. Whoops.

Also makes since why people are discounting kq and some other hands.

Sorry

Correct




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Couple of interesting ones

1) Don't beat any value

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero (Hero) is CO with 8♣ T♣
2 players fold, Hero (CO) raises to $6, Dealer (BU) calls $6, 2 players fold

Flop: ($15) T♠ K♣ 5♥ (2 players)
Hero (CO) checks, Dealer (BU) checks

Turn: ($15) 8♥ (2 players)
Hero (CO) bets $9.50, Dealer (BU) raises to $35.50, Hero (CO) calls $26

River: ($86) J♦ (2 players)
Hero (CO) checks, Dealer (BU) bets $86, Hero.......


2) Feels like a fishy live game

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
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Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero (Hero) is BTN with T♦ Q♦
1 fold, UTGplus1 (MP) raises to $6, UTGplus2 (CO) calls $6, Hero (BU) 3-bets to $24, 1 fold, Big Blind (BB) calls $22, UTGplus1 (MP) calls $18, UTGplus2 (CO) calls $18

Flop: ($97) 6♦ 3♠ A♣ (4 players)
Big Blind (BB) checks, UTGplus1 (MP) checks, UTGplus2 (CO) checks, Hero (BU) checks

Turn: ($97) 5♦ (4 players)
Big Blind (BB) checks, UTGplus1 (MP) bets $43, UTGplus2 (CO) folds, Hero (BU) calls $43, Big Blind (BB) calls $43

River: ($226) T♣ (3 players)
Big Blind (BB) bets $120.26 (all-in), UTGplus1 (MP) folds, Hero.......

1) Discounting AQ due to preflop action. Four combos each of Q9/79 suited left along with two combos each of KT/KJ suited and one 88 combo. Hearts brick as does 67. It's close. River sizing is interesting - you have a hidden value hand but you can have lots of draws too that brick.

It's been a while since I've done deep HH analysis so I may have the combo work wrong: can we find at least seven bluff combos that make this a 0EV call? If more combos are in his range, we call getting 2-1. I think this is a fold at lower levels online but I don't play $1/2 OL so YMMV

2) Sucks we block diamond draws but what value is he repping? One combo of TT and…? Does TT even get to the river?

If v is a drooler *I guess* you can give him one combo of AT suited. 65 and sets (if he can ever have them) raise turn a lot so we can discount those combos. 74 is so lol.

Diamond combos we beat include KJ/98/87 and maybe one or two Ax of diamond combos that are button clicking. How many of those combos are taking three to the face pre? Getting 2.8-1 and him repping so thin, I call.

1) fold to this sizing

2) Meh whatever fold. Kinda suicidal to bluff here. Turn can be a fold too. Sucks bad when your FD isn't live

1) Don’t think we’re gonna see enough bluffs either. I folded he had 88

2) Yeah Qhi fd turn call isn’t the greatest 4 way.

Vs a XC turn, donk river on a card that bricks draws and shouldn’t improve BB I typically close my eyes and call w/ any decent sdv. Sucks if he’s just clicking a naked ace or making a weird slowplay.

Would love to see MP’s reaction to results. MP folds AQ, I call, BB mega whale had the hail mary 93dd.

Not too common 4way 3bet pot 500bb deep


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG (UTG): $190.00 (95 bb)
UTGplus1 (MP): $166.07 (83 bb)
UTGplus2 (CO): $154.99 (77 bb)
Dealer (BU): $752.81 (376 bb)
Hero (SB): $1,019.69 (510 bb)
Big Blind (BB): $1,275.39 (638 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero (Hero) is SB with Q♦ Q♠
1 fold, UTGplus1 (MP) raises to $6, UTGplus2 (CO) calls $6, 1 fold, Hero (SB) 3-bets to $30, Big Blind (BB) calls $28, UTGplus1 (MP) calls $24, UTGplus2 (CO) calls $24

Flop: ($120) 5♣ 2♥ 4♥ (4 players)
Hero (SB) bets $75, Big Blind (BB) calls $75, UTGplus1 (MP) calls $75, UTGplus2 (CO) folds

Turn: ($345) 5♠ (3 players)
Hero (SB) checks, Big Blind (BB) bets $185.21, UTGplus1 (MP) calls $61.07 (all-in), Hero (SB) calls $185.21

River: ($776.49) 9♦ (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero (SB) checks, Big Blind (BB) bets $350.73, Hero (SB)...

probably call I reckon, BB cold calling your squeeze means he's fishy, could be value betting JJ/TT, can be credibly bluffing. GL

Really nasty spot, need reads. Debating a flop check for pot control.

That said, for a fishy looking player, his turn river/size seem more on the bluffy/btn click random2 sizing scheme than trips+. Inclined to call.

I'm folding

Was thinking along the same lines. Thing that worries me is the main pot is somewhat protected and his bet size in absolute terms is huge (1.75bi) which may make thinner vb/bluffs less likely. And ty

Anon every hand. Also wasn't totally sure about flop. In theory i'm sure my spot is played super defensive this deep. In practice if the IP player isn't going to leverage his stack by putting a ton of pressure/use gigantic bet sizes I feel like I'm sacrificing a lot on this board by not betting.

You would have saved bout 350


Results:

Big Blind (BB) bets $350.73, Hero (SB) calls $350.73

Total pot: $1,477.95 (Rake: $4)

Showdown:
Big Blind (BB) shows K♣ K♦ (two pair, Kings and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 4%, Turn: 10%, River: 0%)

Hero (SB) mucks Q♦ Q♠ (two pair, Queens and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 17%, Flop: 3%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

UTGplus1 (MP) shows A♠ 3♠ (a straight, Ace to Five)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 29%, Flop: 93%, Turn: 86%, River: 100%)

Big Blind (BB) wins $947.17
UTGplus1 (MP) wins $526.78

Annoying one vs good reg

5/10

+2 opens 30(2.5K), I 3bet co 115 red QQ, call

hu flop(245) T84ccd
x, I cbet 175, raises to 525, call

Turn(1,295) Jd
He jams ~1.8k

Just yuck

I would size way down your cbet. Can also consider a check back with some overpairs, but probably prefer a bet with QQ.

Depending on what you 3b and the dynamic, he might think your range can't handle any heat here. Still doesn't mean he's going absolutely nuts with 0.

Would recommend folding flop and not telling a soul

Yeah, I ended up folding.

I was thinking if he's bluffing with Jxcc otf it may often get checked ott, but idk. Considered jamming flop but stacks felt too deep. Turn it's tough to think I have enough equity against the overbet

I would also fold flop

Trying to out nit these people. One of those sessions where all I did was fold. Red line took a hit

1) Don't know why I didn't raise flop. Was going to raise turn until the overbet

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

Hero (UTG): $365.75 (183 bb)
UTGplus1 (MP): $337.34 (169 bb)
UTGplus2 (CO): $508.05 (254 bb)
Dealer (BU): $254.88 (127 bb)
Small Blind (SB): $447.45 (224 bb)
Big Blind (BB): $265.03 (133 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero (Hero) is UTG with J♥ A♦
Hero (UTG) raises to $6, UTGplus1 (MP) calls $6, UTGplus2 (CO) calls $6, 3 players fold

Flop: ($21) A♣ J♦ 7♥ (3 players)
Hero (UTG) checks, UTGplus1 (MP) checks, UTGplus2 (CO) bets $8.08, Hero (UTG) calls $8.08, UTGplus1 (MP) folds

Turn: ($37.16) 4♠ (2 players)
Hero (UTG) checks, UTGplus2 (CO) bets $49.37, Hero (UTG) calls $49.37

River: ($135.90) T♦ (2 players)
Hero (UTG) checks, UTGplus2 (CO) bets $444.60 (all-in), Hero (UTG) folds

Total pot: $135.90 (Rake: $4)
UTGplus2 (CO) wins $131.90

CO shows Q K (Straight, Ace High)

Hero mucks J A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)


2) Usually 4b pre, w/e

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG (UTG): $196.00 (98 bb)
UTGplus1 (MP): $199.25 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $202.00 (101 bb)
Dealer (BU): $131.03 (66 bb)
Small Blind (SB): $200.52 (100 bb)
Big Blind (BB): $238.03 (119 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero (Hero) is CO with A♣ K♠
2 players fold, Hero (CO) raises to $6, 2 players fold, Big Blind (BB) 3-bets to $24, Hero (CO) calls $18

Flop: ($49) 7♥ Q♣ A♥ (2 players)
Big Blind (BB) bets $15.50, Hero (CO) calls $15.50

Turn: ($80) 4♠ (2 players)
Big Blind (BB) bets $41.50, Hero (CO) calls $41.50

River: ($163) J♦ (2 players)
Big Blind (BB) bets $157.03 (all-in), Hero (CO) folds

Total pot: $163 (Rake: $4)
Big Blind (BB) wins $159

BB shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)

Hero mucks A K (One Pair, Aces)


3) No set no bet

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG (UTG): $222.94 (111 bb)
Hero (MP): $206.00 (103 bb)
UTGplus2 (CO): $298.00 (149 bb)
Dealer (BU): $166.48 (83 bb)
Small Blind (SB): $225.75 (113 bb)
Big Blind (BB): $299.00 (150 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero (Hero) is MP with 6♠ 6♥
1 fold, Hero (MP) raises to $6, UTGplus2 (CO) calls $6, 1 fold, Small Blind (SB) calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($20) J♦ 6♦ 2♣ (3 players)
Small Blind (SB) checks, Hero (MP) bets $12, UTGplus2 (CO) calls $12, Small Blind (SB) folds

Turn: ($44) A♠ (2 players)
Hero (MP) bets $55, UTGplus2 (CO) calls $55

River: ($154) 7♦ (2 players)
Hero (MP) checks, UTGplus2 (CO) bets $225 (all-in), Hero (MP) folds

Total pot: $154 (Rake: $4)
UTGplus2 (CO) wins $150

CO shows A 3 (Flush, Ace High)

Hero mucks 6 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes)


4) Fk pot odds

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG (UTG): $208.05 (104 bb)
UTGplus1 (MP): $218.40 (109 bb)
UTGplus2 (CO): $233.62 (117 bb)
Dealer (BU): $112.35 (56 bb)
Small Blind (SB): $202.00 (101 bb)
Hero (BB): $212.40 (106 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero (Hero) is BB with A♦ T♣
3 players fold, Dealer (BU) raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero (BB) calls $4

Flop: ($13) T♥ 7♠ J♥ (2 players)
Hero (BB) checks, Dealer (BU) bets $6.50, Hero (BB) calls $6.50

Turn: ($26) T♠ (2 players)
Hero (BB) bets $17, Dealer (BU) calls $17

River: ($60) 4♠ (2 players)
Hero (BB) bets $38, Dealer (BU) raises to $82.85 (all-in), Hero (BB) folds

Total pot: $136 (Rake: $4)
Dealer (BU) wins $132

BTN shows A J (Flush, Ace High)

Hero mucks A T (Three of a Kind, Tens)

How do you know their hole cards?

Trading money for a better looking red line is a bad idea imo. Those are some great folds.

I fold the qq too.